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the soldiers the seamen were ordered to keep quiet it was a thawing plaster was still afloat and the four thousand dead was still alive i picked up the story was to campaign for to the store the memory of the fate of the lying bastard. and i delighted to be joined by mark her star long lancaster campaigner and michelle to be a local historian here and so on the mark of i come to you first what was the lancastrian doing here and solace there that fateful day in june one thousand forty four the lancastrian had been commissioned as a trick ship. of war and she was actually just finished the disembarkation of troops from the norway campaign when she got orders to sail to san nazir and help in the evacuations she was a canard lainer which was requisitioned as a cook yes she was she was requisitioned she she cruise the atlantic in peacetime
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rule taking wealthy passengers across the atlantic she also did some mediterranean cruising and with the orders when the orders came through she was actually in nassau in the bahamas and was sent to new york painted battleship gree and then on worlds to the to the u.k. to take a full part in the the war and troop movements and michele if you would actually a road to just don't the road and nine hundred forty as a ten year old boy and you witnessed the kill us in the confusion of the troops trying to find a way out of france and the refugees looking for somewhere to go it was unbelievable it was impossible to drive on the roads who they were for a for a few g.'s cramming from the north of france coming from belgium from in from their parents and well rain possible to do to dry so the troops and the civil suit with t.v. and people they did what they could do and do what they had to ship going back to england they tried to do to him. each and i think the captain.
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or try to have the never miss safe as possible and he was waiting for undiscovered captain chubb sayed not to sail in the afternoon as it was he was waiting for the straw escort he was afraid and obviously of you boortz as sinking as ship in the in the channel and the water now to see you he made a mistake but i was a captain more for myself i don't know what i have if they would have done at this moment mark because you have a family connection because your grandfather was aboard lancaster tell us about his story of what happened to him when he arrived here leto on the night before the. embarkation to lancastrian slept in the streets here in san jose are and his unit were actually center at least in the afternoon they were one of the last units to borderline castro and he actually sought refuge on the top deck and because he was a non-swimmer e-sports
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a life jacket but initially didn't think it would save his life he took a life jacket because he thought it would make a good pillow for the long journey back but i was a fit for decision for him obviously because shortly afterwards the line castree was attacked and your grandfather's name us all to horse and did he speak much about the later days because you obviously do your normal growing up and tell you about what happened while he lived with us in the latter years of his life and he would describe what happened and when he eventually made it into the water. he was there he didn't say it was in a swimmer so he tried to stay as still as possible and out of nowhere a dog appealed and he grabbed the scruff of the neck to pull him away from the suction of the boat and we know this dog may well have been from the other. the pair of some of the belgian children refugees who had boarded the link us yeah it was it's difficult to understand but it was not just troops coming in to sign the zero there was one. of refugees as many of them lately as children have walked all
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the way have with their dogs sadly though we know that these children did borderline castro with the dogs sadly the they didn't make it but the dog intervention was very helpful to your grandfather my grandfather but he was still very much haunted by what he saw as it's difficult to imagine what happened though there in the in the estuary it was many ways to die that day and i think the horror of in some ways for the survivals was live with them for many years and i know from my own experience speaking to many survival sends. me of well into their eighty's and ninety's throw the life of the what happened and for many years afterwards the remains of bodies were being washed ashore fishermen were catching the bodies and the levels by lead to be found and but it was difficult to know who did the where and how many there how. the bottom of dandy now but
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for all along the coast gave way and maybe some t.v. down in the in the bottom of the sea so thank you so much michel for that first hand of the confusion and horror of that for peerless sake of the alex i'm queer the quakes the loving cup a couple of members perhaps you know the drill the subject of. whiskey and liquid and all the scotch whisky of course thank you thank you my wife would appreciate. to. say some of the history of your grandfather how he got here on that fateful day. long. to get. back in one thousand.
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going well i mean bill evacuated winston churchill had broadcast that there expeditionary force have been safely transported across the channel the the boys think they've been left behind yeah well and fight on the fourteenth of june they were sitting not far from here listening to the b.b.c. world service when winston churchill came on and the moans that the british expeditionary force had completely and successfully evacuated france and fact at that point there were still one hundred fifty thousand plus british troops still in france still trying to evacuate along with many civilians embassy staff people who'd been on holiday perhaps mixed in with refugees from belgium members of the faith forces who perhaps didn't fancy or away from the nazi occupation so there was a whole gallery of people who were anxious to get out and what about fifty kilometers from sun was out here yeah it's important to point out though there was real chaos no one really knew what was going on i mean partly due to water i'm censorship but the first indication the company got was when the commanding officer
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called them out on parade and said prepare for evacuation and i think that was a real shock especially for my grandfather because one of the reasons he had volunteered to come to france was to finish the job that his own father had was that he put it begun in world war one so to be know in clearly a food retreat was a shock so they were on parade on june sixteenth the day before the lancastrian. so lined up and then into the into the trucks boys and will be off the santa sail and you know i'll be evacuated back to back to blighty yeah and tragically for for that unit my grandfather's unit was two hundred fifty men a third of the unit were actually killed in the subsequent evacuation it was a look at the working conditions and see why this was so strategically important. in the control building over there are you have to give me one of only two like it standing in the world what is it. feel like retracing your grandfather walter's
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footsteps feel a real sense of affinity with this building. the small the first time i've been here but you know in a very tangible way this was a building that my grandfather knew he saw every day that he was stationed and for all the events or own my grandfather being a shrouded in disaster for the period leading up to the evacuation these were very happy times for my grandfather so of course ian the rest of the squadron has you know i had no idea they were about to be involved in the the greatest disaster of in british history when they left here it was kind of a tinge of sadness i think that they were leaving but i think it was makes practitioner ultimately the town. i think for my granddad for the other men. it was a sense of defeat i mean you couldn't hide the fact that this was an unmitigated retreat on the morning of june seventeenth one thousand for captain sharp and
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commander. received. it told them to load as many men as possible of the guard to the limits laid. by. more than six thousand people exhausted soldiers confused refugees trying to get on to the ship more than three times a stylish capacity limit at that point captain sharp made a fateful decision to stay and not to make a. he was understandably frightened of a destroyer escort his ship would be easy to your boats in the english channel. a major air raid began at quarter to four and then three forty eight going past year ten nautical miles off song as their softly. just after four o'clock going past began to capsize and then sank within twenty minutes.
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industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only number you need to remember it was one business show you can't afford to miss the one and only film but. i think it's important to do something that you're passionate about and even if you know you may not think you can do that and i didn't think there was any chance of me becoming an astronaut but i realize that's what i was passionate about and i wanted to at least try for this if you're trying whatever it is you're interested in and general for people if you have that passion if you have something you think is really interesting but you think it might not be possible that doesn't matter just just give it a try and you never know where you might end up. in twenty forty you know bloody revolution to tikrit the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution
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is always spontaneous or is it just a lawyer here i mean your list put video and put him in the new bill is that i mean you explain you know to the former ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty fourteen. those who took part in the studio over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. welcome back with telling the story of the length cast the greatest modifying disaster in british history but one kept secret from the people by a water tight news blackout. but what was the impact of the loss of life. to the communities here in brittany no one knows these waters better than former fishermen captain of the law pilots service captain yves busch use as a boy fishing and they asked to be the remains of the main cast of victims were
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caught in these nets as a man he founded the association like castor de france cup to me bush use as president of the association lancastrian defaults you have made up almost a personal mission to explain the circumstances of the loss of that great ship if it did more. liberal. simple normal procedure. in the. first game of the situation is that the story can never be father turns to the families understand through exactly where the sight of that should make his fifty fifth scimitar is in the west of france where they are located on a certain level not to order victims are survivors of the don't ask for help you don't ask this supposed to be simply don't ask why do you feel that the loss of the past year the greatest loss of life in a single ship sinking in the whole of british naval history why do you feel it's
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not remembered more as it should be shifted more. linda pulled me up at the thought of my didn't do too little. second question in fact for me into a man the worst maritime disaster ever so. can you imagine the victim i seen in fifty feet cemeteries in yours we imagine that exactly six months after the sinking a body came into bordeaux. but so far it will remain the worst my twenty's i still have a. mention ritual to libya. in the catastrophe. i was lucky to get any. new condition but only normal level vision islamist you. know more than fifteen. caps and i can thank you for all the work you've done but what i can do is present you have the alex salmond clear the loving cup for being on the
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show you know the drill for each other quite unfair. so monica lewinsky. the only one. who had it. is the kathleen. koch. before sponsibility for veterans affairs and seventies but i'm kathleen what is the story of the lancastrian which touches the hearts of the people of sadness. to see a procedural new. walk to something mold the situation was very complex in the seventy's i thought why people do remember the story because the situation of process very critical. was marshall because appeal for the armistice also because the allies and troops were going back and people here and so on the sam are afraid of them leaving then as and finally there was the sinking of the
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lancaster which was a real disaster because people here never forget this huge family you know that remains in there but the tragedy of the langley has a team this is the result if they didn't you don't know what is a know catherine for all that you've done to commemorate the loss of the people in the lancastrian i present you with that excitement create a loving cup for whisky someone because you know the drill the sun the quote. mess siebel kubes america mess one of the most remarkable aspects of all in casting a disaster is that in many ways is better remembered in france than it is in britain. and i'm joined by claude viggle who's the responsible for the department the french government will choose ask the vet of the fears on this locality tell me a bit about what you you do locally claude we sell the memory of the veterans of.
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several wars. and we hung your memory and we tried to help them for social life. were orphans i war with those and victims of terrorist attack to you for ted many such ceremonies and as i did a violin other circumstances and a solemnity about the act of the members how do you consider the importance of the act and ceremony of remembrance well it's so important that today breck's it could catch the fidel ity in this memory or during two world wars british army and french military were brother in arms that is very important we caught we met and we never met
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and forget this because. these people that die for us to die for our liberty today and i feel deeply concerned as french by the memory of british military who died for us with us for freedom with us i can't guarantee the continuation remembers i can hope but it's certainly the work and offers the quick the loving cup by which remembers can be properly knowledge you know the drill the subsequent the risk in the quake i think remember frank you very much let me have a few such about it that i lead each grave of bridges. soldier involved a thank you so much thank you very much thank you very much indeed. christophe this is the same a for me feel now because many many ships have been
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wrecked in this dangerous coastline here really because before the signals were very very simple you know with this mast just behind us and the lights came later and sometimes with the fog and so on the ships couldn't see the rocks and also there were battles. and there are some rocks here in the area. and there are some of the lucky police after yourself ok thank you. this remarkable feature of french remembrance of the lancastrian disaster it's also been much to fill up speed to your award winning film the priest of swat someone who's taken a keen interest in the night caster over the years christoph tell us where we are the press world we are here in the point. it's a sells through our region and we are closest point to break we are about five you know dick maze far from the shipwreck of the lancaster
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area and this is the old semaphores station which has been termed a very impressive model type of the seal with all this the models of the. another of the famous ships which were lost of this course exactly what we are here in this museum in the room which is the decayed to all the thinkings which happened here in the area and there months there we have the model of the lancaster area and some artifacts or something. which can show you that it was first a liner the very look shouldst by one of the most luxurious of his day at the ninety if that is exactly the like us we has to have a first life as an owner and transport of many many many people on cruises and you've either an award winning documentary. which was shown across the planet tell me what made you make that film which was sort of noted of the saw as or celebrated first it was shown in france in our regions after that on the national late work
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and after that it was shown in eighty five countries which can understand french language and how did you title the full. tape of the lancastrian the story of thick of confidential thinking confidential as a secret yeah exactly it's still difficult to realize today all the victims of this of this disaster and i wanted to make something for the unknown victims who died who perished here in our region and it was the most important for me to make this be known by everybody also in u.k. so thank you so much just of for using your class and filmmaking to properly commemorate those who were lost and like castor a small talking for appearing on the alexander show your title to the quick. fix welfare exactly you know the drill. the rest is easy thank you very much alex thank
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you shot ever show us a book. but that's lack of official recognition for the victims of one cast does not extend to the commonwealth war graves commission here in pardon me some have to kilometers some sadness there christophe could be a tendency to his duties of loving care. of when was the cemetery here and for meek the stablished for the victims of lancastrian. pony on plane you lou created a new passion on the cemetery was established at pony you know i don't have to be a disaster yes the first victims will be read in the civil cemetery the jew to the massive number of victims found on the coast it was decided to be done here. to dedicate a place to do. this is truly a beautiful and very peaceful place and each year the ceremony is still held to commemorate the victims of the lancastrian we. nine hundred forty six.
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and his release by the locals is a new. eighteenth of june one thousand forty. i think the victims burned here would find it very suitable thank you so much. perhaps ironic that this. should see both the single greatest naval disaster. and the most successful commando raid of the second world war. both. touching sensitivity and dignity but that's not the case back in blighty. said to the global empire that they should treat triumph and disaster. with the
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same. message was lost in the british authorities but it came to the sinking the disastrous loss of lancaster and that's caused lasting damage because of warfare is really a story of triumph even triumph achieved through sacrifice. only. that these trials have to be balanced and remembered by the unmitigated disaster like the loss of. secondly because behind the loss of four thousand souls on the. belief of families who were denied the proper opportunity to commemorate and mourn the deed to. america during the second world war. what was an effect of. the news of the length of. the. debate the effect of.
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the water. had moved. and this is the strangest thing. at best. people's reaction and the relatives of those who lost the most of survived on the length. of a campaign to harm the memory of their relatives. so join us next week when we talk to survivors and families about their struggle. should not be.
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