so you are right now talking about putting down the barriers of mistrust in libya but those barriers are were actually put up way before you and for the reasons that are beyond you what makes you think that an outsider can bring them down. over the country and i know. my first. and bed also so he spect was a condition and is always a completely leaves and. going to one. while all easy to show off i think where all countries affecting over libya why not giving really begin to proceed to have to exist as a voice and to jointly express what they would like to do is

a home country she's my aim is not to make peace east to p. eight. the fundamental is to create. for. peace this is what i'm trying to say look kind of effort do you have to make to actually bring these people together and saying well first class is always some big word yes he said he went but it's essential what they have done for libya for example is a following. a tie to look i don't the five. is a general scope of politically. two extremes of the scope and i thought i found bishop was aids and very close to. the feet and a large ability of belhaj was formed fault but to fight it has got to fit him since he has years of seventy so. and those

are the two weeks or so as is the one who uses it will never talk together because . one accusing the other of. the worst things and. so i put them together how how by convincing them that their meeting will be not to discuss. the past and what these along but to see what they have in common. what do you want for in common what won't of course versions as far as the v.a.'s going. is concerned and the knowing is a point of the. point where they don't like anyone and it happened. of course they will accept me because by their own people or as a people of a photo else how can you meet a man who can you see. can you see sunday but holmes that meeting.

ziad agree on very simple principle about the future of libya. is a visa to should be one country should be as he didn't government should be an army we respond to civilian government so this should be an independent judiciary because this is something that's what i'm saying like this is something that international diplomats have been trying to do forever and you're just saying you know i convinced both sides that they shouldn't talk about the past just talk about the future and a common goal of libya this is a very simple straightforward formula that other diplomats use as well i still don't understand how it works out when you come in a dozen when other diplomats to you must have a key that others don't know what is that key thing they ever keep the one they have a past twenty do them some kind of guarantees what also of course not so there's no guarantee you could have given checks ahead at the beginning or they could have left it shows up either after five minutes no problem is. once you have

went you are not an institution when you are not a government. your voice is your voice it belongs to you and if this trust in your voice zen people accept to do sings they would not accept was a situation we believe it is a difference we to meet with palin diplomacy and enjoy official diplomacy. the office of diplomacy is one line everybody talks or same way even nobody can have as an individual opinion they have to express what was it. the others or is it the early for that me i am not bound to that i can i can have i can do what i want when i want and people believe have close me. just one example in south africa i stopped dialogues between white and black by

an exchange of prisoners and other than sixty people five countries in force five country and first. place in. mozambique it happened very smoothly everything went right not one document was sent so he's not the best which has been sacked everybody rife with prison this was a plane stupid but back to back of the prisoners everybody believe that it should be issued arrive at that time and be part of that that. not one people and that it was involving millions country like hans or south africa the media mozambique. so i wonder if it always goes down so i had a friend an american friend who was working at the fall of apartheid in south

africa just like you and he was telling me you know every time he's in the conflict resolution as well and he was how we know every time i go for a new job i have this feeling that i know what to do i know how to fix it i know it better and after three years of being there he was like you just fall into this state where you understand you don't know anything and you probably will never understand anything do you ever get that feeling when you go to a new conflict to a new country where you feel like i know it i'm going to do this and then you're on the ground and you trying to do your job trying trying trying and then at the end of the day you like i just don't understand anything and probably never will you with success. so it's good they had some success. but they also say to you i have big figure i pod i can speak. so of course i am. my success but why is to give

a chance to to the to peace to give a chance to peace doesn't mean that you get on things that you would bring peace but at least you give a chance to achieve peace this is what i've only tired to do with no guarantees that i will succeed so i am much more courageous and much more ambitious than if i am seeking ways and i'm going to succeed or not she's not my issue i am not sinking was what i was a chance what i was a statistic what that was a possibility for me to succeed and not interested i just say shall i do i have enough elements in my hands to try to bring peace. do i have elements here. are my going to put them aside and doing what they want no of course not i go for it this is their s. like danger at any point in your line of work where you feel like sense of

superiority here i am white man from the land of perspired in peace i come to you paris squabbling our solve your pain because i know better does do you ever get that feeling because it's dangerous there's a there's a fine line when you have so much power and trust. in your hands and you can make the process as movies can get that sense you can yeah sure i don't you don't have i am very as i don't. be. sure of what i'm doing that i am as i am present. tense i don't know the world in english i'm sorry as i doubt about what i am doing. this is a feeling of superiority that can never. because if i doubt that means that they don't have a sense of superiority. and i never go resistance of. people knows that you know

we are dealing with men we do mean we human and sometimes we have to put the size of paper in the document and. z. explain a. logical explanations. to to get. also a human side in the piece because everybody wants. people who. is a muslim to be the most were a cock there somewhere somehow was hoping for peace and want peace is it easy in it out of your butt i think maybe something good when worst and sense of security that a lot of big powers get while they're going in conflicts is ignorance because right now we see a lot of politicians. they don't have the understanding of the region when they actually act in that region they don't know the complexity of the fragility of the places that they affect for instance i remember president obama saying that not

lack of planning in libya was probably one of his biggest mistakes of his presidency just recently norway admitted having no idea what they were doing when they send their claims to bomb libya and we see that happening actually a lot where does this i'm a tour approach come from money shoot the elected leaders be sent to some mandatory job or political lessons about the world because this happens all the time. you know when you when you start to do something and it's valid for government or individuals don't try to don't. seem twice before you. even need to bad and you replace it by the worse and this is unfortunately what's happened more and more in the past you you you want to change to take off to take of the bad but you replace it by something less of the bad you have taking off and for me of course how can you avoid that you avoid it by.

z.z.z. . because when when you leave a conflict by keating and there's a conflict when you win you. over solutions by kidding another of the people you face but when you deal. with when. you see it see as a people that's really wants to build a future together then you are avoiding. a place to combat the worst day we're going to take a short break right now while i come back we'll continue talking about harold the promise of what is it and is it more effective beneficial the promise and stay with us.

most people think just stand out in this business you need to be the first one on top of the story or the person with the loudest voice of the biggest race in truth to stand on the losing business you just need as the right questions and demand the right answer. the. question. ministries police forces and city administrations of many countries depend on one corporation and another by mike was hoping when the board does run for the eyes of god the can stop this is not the guns. but there's the theory that he got on into the sea at the last also by

building proprietary software you don't know the source code isn't that a such a security risk when you have a black box operating in the public eye to microsoft's dependency puts governments under a cyber threat and not only that. that's what we call self-assembly a sense of selling this one the more folks in. the south of the border. with. these this is the. host i get on with the all business stopped in a more sustainable homes a fund is up and describes in the fine. it's hard to imagine decades after the war a nazi doctor was still active and rich in the nineteen seventies crittle had as the chair of its board a man convicted of mass murder and slavery at auschwitz

a german company growing untold develops in the divide a drug that was promoted as completely safe even during pregnancy. it turned out to have terrible side effects what has happened to my baby is anything paul you know she said is just cut short arms minix and i don't mind victims i have to this day received no compensation and never apologized for the suffering that not only want the money i want the revenge. and we're back with yet expert in peril diplomacy and the chairman of the foundation. i remember you expressing your opinion in the early times of the syrian

conflict escalation you were about wrote about wars of good versus evil. that was you write and said that you know that you've said that this is led by us and they can longer force on everyone because balance of power is shifting so i always think of why does the united states still go over and over again for the same strategy of fighting the black and white good versus evil wars when it has brought all the asli so much misery to the world and to themselves in the first place why not to meet with. your true diplomat. to me. why should a express on the table already know i. am getting worse is it will worse yes. i have just we have to be very worried. that you we by taking something badly placings by subsidy given us and this story as

proof that some of the actions taken by this one those. have been the placing something bad something event with us. we leave that to the twentieth century and. those mistakes because while as you said about president obama they were not planning after what do we do after how out and for me i am thinking this after i was a very fundamental bass. after has to be a consideration is it is a consideration they can be exchange of opinion it can be democracy at last i'm not talking about wisdom across your democracy or specific little possibility of the ability of the people to decide of their own future that can only be done. even hate considerations here and that is a real so you just mentioned earlier in the into that peril the promise in official

diplomacy it's pyro because they go without crossing pass so that means that you're not part of the system right official system there that this stablish while when you do your job as a diplomat and a lot of your success stories in the african period they were tied to it all they were tied to shock so you kind of are in the system or are you completely not part of the system. after certain moments it's time for the system to take over. that's for sure i am. i am not here to make peace i am here to facilitate peace. is going to make peace is either secure because you need to keep the agreement it's one which i am not thinkable to to take so yes or certain moment there is let's say if. some people accept it some countries accept it there is

a lack of communication and. takeover by country of two brings everything to safin the finality when i did so because i feel that which led to the independence of namibia and for the first time as a cuban and the american was sitting at the same table always are together with the south africans younger than it was i have so the political has been signed. it was taken by the un and there was a big show in. the un for the signing of the agreement i was not even invited i want to invent it nobody invited me when they all know that i was initiated this is because this time at a certain moment the official take over and i don't pretend that i can replace what is off the show of course not i am not here to the place anybody i am not here to to do. to i am here to help to assist not to replace

did the official diplomats listen to your advice as an outsider or do they really try to shut you down because it's competition. then we have to go back to the human nature i have extolled the need for friends with our diplomats and zander said what i do and prove what it. of course. they belong to as i said feeling. myself probably not but then again it's not white and black it's i have very good friends we have diplomats they had. and they have no problem with them because it is really allies that bring some seeing. of the progress but of course it is situation we don't like me maybe they don't like successes or has have your political convictions or i don't know moral convictions

ever get in the way of doing the job as a imperil diplomacy for instance this guy i cannot talk to that want to talk to or whatever you feel personally is always irrelevant if you have to make peace and make people reconcile. there is not one person in the planet has so little if you sort of course never one. as criminally can be i will accept if he is a d. to talk about peace i will talk to him of course in the beginning of the interview set that i bring fighting sides to one table because there is trust you know they trust me and they trust that you know with they come together it's going to be for the better of the common cause does this always work how do you make people who are not willing to reconcile change their mind or this is only work when they actually do want to negotiate it inside you see this is

a tactic between records. when i did i did the first conference which is in may in the car which is called now that i won because hopefully we are going to have a dugout to. i get invited to people said i didn't know or that people would say what i've done is i went to bishop's alley i went to do that village and i said please convince your friends to come to the conference so exam. i've been convincing stephens to come to the conference so i was not exposed as a person the test was. jumping jumping from one person to the other but at the end of that is where all that because if i would have been the one who'd been travelling with my leg age and going to to see the people i want to invade to convince maybe i would not have succeeded because it dawned on me send

a verse of me they who is white man in the in the libyan conflict as you say. but if i am using somebody was done by that. that's a different push this is something which is you don't very briefly when i started to be interested in africa i had a chance i was very young i was twenty i was i was invited for dinner by a very fantastic man we were the president of. iran he caused. me and he invited me sort of our lunch and he was listening to me and i was interested he got a call in what i want to do with africa an hour into africa i was there and there's the end of the dinner he said you are interested was africa i am going to give you only one advice only one never enter an african village if you are not accompanied by somebody who is known by the village. and they have apply. all my life is. a question is.

at the beginning is never given by myself is given by somebody who has a test of a person. and it works so i realize that there are no guarantees of any kind of anything when you get two people when you get people in the same room that have been killing each other for such a long time so it's a big deal that they sit down but what is the success rate usually those people who have been feuding for so long ok they're in the same room what is the success rate after they start talking have you i'm sure you've. already there in your personal theory i don't i don't count ok but let me tell you something is where the dialogue is a most essential thing because that means even if accepted to meet. it has been

a patient it was a meeting is not is not. no idea what they're going to discuss their bed so indeed a cli indeed take the dialogue has been established between them probably most probably most of the time for me so. they don't. have before they meet. evaluated appreciative. that it was going to be very be still very sour and i was a relief but i never experienced. a moment where i put two parties together and no one is left never explained that they might not and. it did happen in the car one when after a missile. i mean bill gates. accepted to be on the plane that charter i've been that guy but when this all was going to be their homes i said no we

cannot sit there with the same people in the left so. the. ways that. i never experimented but do you know like gestures words that are it already like signal to you that there's going to be a deal here do you feel your stance or are this like jason looks like stages in these when you're intervene. you know you're not. he manes as long as it is not. beginning or slight of conflict your positions then yes you have to intervene and calm down and tell people that geez what do you mean this is what the ones in the end of the day maybe you you can match and. you feel it you go sation you you feel it's a time. you use you should. intervene yes when you work

on a complicated conflict like syria and if not then what would you advise people to do that no i will never work on conflict because unfortunately syria is going to be young people of syria of syria. i still believe that in libya yes not yet it should live and where it goes beyond the people of. the people of syria people of syria who doesn't come out i mean it's. so what will be my role to. have syrian government matching. us government on the whole and i don't have the keys and. i cannot and. i give up i don't i'm not following so since well good luck in the cases that you are involved and i'm sure they're going to be successful like most of the cases

you have undertaken think you're much but this is thank you very much it's been a pleasure it was been a pleasure for me to. both the republicans and democrats claim victory in the wake of the midterm elections but it seems the election settled little if anything now there is a dueling investigation warfare gridlock on steroids is this what the voters voted for.

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