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remain with the british people cooperate worldwide trade worldwide so i knew united nations being members of the international community but the umbilical cord that links the lawmakers with the people and you destroy the stability of this country and well stability will be a subject in singapore tomorrow when leaders from russia the us and you're in china convene to discuss the future of the planet that's followed by apec summit in papua new guinea again the usa russia and china will be present we'll get the perspective of a u.k. government advisor on china later in the show but before that to the midterms which british media rugby suggests demonstrate donald trump's decline even though the g.o.p. won seats in the senate joining me now via skype from atlanta georgia is the green party twenty sixteen vice presidential candidate joe miller. thanks for coming back on record breaking turnout but still more people didn't vote than voted what is the point of u.s. elections. if it is to determine every two or four years what set of oppressors
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will be putting in office and i hate to sound like that but in essence because of the very real limitations of us democracy that make it very difficult for any political challenge to take place beyond the two parties then people are basically stuck with having to participate either supporting one major ruling class party or another and so those of us that isn't third forces like the green party are basically marginalized and the consequence is that many people have concluded that the dems so-called democratic process in the us is irrelevant and therefore they vote by not voting because the d.n.c. often says it's not their fault it's either the russians facebook or perhaps wall believably widespread reporting of voter suppression you're a cause in georgia why is it that u.s. elections have these irregularities and accusations it doesn't happen in venezuela
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or iran and it doesn't and what we have in the us is a eight a decision may primarily by the republicans to engage in voter suppression because they believe i think quite correctly that any expanded. our participation levels among the working class will be of those that were probably picked up by the democrats therefore they have elaborated some very sophisticated schemes to suppress the vote in georgia they have now taken is to a level of science in the sense that you had a individual who is running for the governor was also the secretary of state the office responsible for in essence organizing the elections and who has been in. shoes of gauging and active botha suppression primarily of black voters he'd
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win at recuse themselves didn't that resigned his position and in fact had been primarily responsible for what we see as a systematic effort to undermine the black vote because we saw by wall street black lives matter that you think in the face of that kind of accusations people are just going to move politics to the street where they have to move the politics of the street to the streets the idea that the electoral arena represents the end all of all political participation only plays into the hands of the do wabbly so even have one believes that the electoral arena is important that has to be also connected to non electoral to go participation so having one's oppositions express. industries if you will a true political organization is vitally important and that's really the message the minute it was tried to advance the idea that all politics in the u.s.
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should be confined just to the electoral arena only advantages the doowop of it do i believe that does not represent the interests of the majority and certainly net of working class employ people in the united states of america because now that lends shifted to the de facto firing of your attorney general jeff sessions what what exactly does an attorney general do because i mean he he to a one ton of money last year kept it open but he was attorney general when the u.s. was arguably illegally bombing syria militarily aiding the saudis in yemen who was jeff sessions with jeff sessions as part of the confederates a movement in the us he is clearly a white supremacist and a nationalist we believe who was brought into the trunk administration to. be they residents of the of the high is a legal office in the land of the attorney general. she fell out of favor with
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trump of course because he recused himself from. the the rushing a process ma'am or as a consequence he was targeted by the trumped up and ministrations to be replaced as soon as the midterms were or are over but this is you know directly that office is tasked with the responsibility uphold of holding us law but we know that the enforcement of u.s. law has always been skewed toward the interests of the most powerful under for example eric holder there was no prosecution of bush administration arab officials who were involved in torture there was no investigation of the bankers who crashed the u.s. economy so you know that office theoretically supposed to be in force the law and protect the edges of the people but him. be reduced to
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a instrument of whatever party is in power at the moment well i'm sure sessions or deny he's a racist you might say he's a nationalist like trump proudly does say but now there's this caravan that trump was name checking all the time the un saying that the children show signs of mental anguish and distress would would donald trump really order u.s. troops to fire on children in the caravan of the mexican border well we have no idea what he might attempt to order we don't believe that troops when in fact fire on and on armed. protesters even though trump said that any protester that had a rock there that protester should be considered to have a rifle we don't believe that that's going to happen. but again it. it is representative of the kind of politics that we see at the intrepid center in the us
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because they hate the discourse has moved away from from issues that are maybe more relevant to many people out to these wedge issues like this and his caravan so. this is part of the racial politics in the us and it's something that is going to be with us for the next few years and there's always the coverage in a caravan in the nato nations in britain not very much about why people should want to leave their homes and try and enter the u.s. automakers go boy but what about the united states much debate about u.s. foreign policy impact and as a catalyst for immigration. you know one of the one of the positive consequences of the of the caravan has been that within the u.s. people who are are attempting to try to understand why people are moving toward the u.s. border and as a consequence people are looking at the conditions in these various countries and
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that they're posing some serious questions and that allows us to provide answers so we can be splendid people that want to reason why you have such a large number of people who are leaving honduras and coming to the u.s. is as a consequence of u.s. policies in honduras they gave it the green light under the obama administration to a anti-democratic crew in that country we can talk about what happened in el salvador and guatemala to talk about economic policies in mexico that have destroyed the mexican economy you force people into into the cities and in and to migrate toward the north so the people begin to understand that the interests of working class people and poor people in the u.s. are very similar to. the answer has a working class for people in central america so the sort of internationalist
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perspective is now developing more as a consequence of this caravan and think and the kinds of questions that people are raising so it's been a very i think positive an unintended consequence of this is a situation and just briefly there's been a lot of talk of identity politics optimism about the new congress do you think if not class politics do you think that muslims in congress for the first time going to make any difference as regards u.s. policy on israel well i i suspect not i do think that if if some of those individuals take a very strong line that would be helpful but you know one's ethnicity or race i have nothing to do with one's political stance so is to be a very lonely a task if they are not able to bring more individuals within the democratic party
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in line with real support for a palestinian rights real support for putting a brake on u.s. policies in the so-called middle east that's responsible for the destruction of various nations in that part of the world. that task still is trying to move one of those parties to a position where they will be in opposition to the permanent wards end of both parties very difficult task but want to which they don't have to take on in conjunction with those of us who are outside of the top of the well who understand that it's vitally important for us the people that put a brake on us policies that are responsible for responsible for the yard. destruction of millions of people around the world thank you well pleasure after
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the break i have a job or a singapore summit we also u.k. government's adviser in china with a briton can be part of any old bricks future that until the headlines the tortured truth about the iraq invasion the tory ignited a debate about the taste. too of going underground. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy. let it be an arms race in. spearing dramatic development only personally. i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and
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talk. during the past thirty years lebanon has been subject to six invasions from israel. six invasions at practically every every five years we are having. one and this is definitely coming through the health of the. ministries police forces and city administrations of many countries depend on one corporation. was hoping one of. the muslims. just. not with. proprietary software you don't know. isn't that a such a security risk when you have a black box operating in the public eye to microsoft's dependency puts governments
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on to cyber threats not only that some seem to think off message and put us in more and that's what we call self and so this is an easy sell miss this is really one of the more think the most of the people didn't miss you all do some problems with that still means this is the arsenals that will be done with the old vision stopping them also stonewalls a fund is up and his cards on the find. good will to the suitable to survival. model course i'm curious to see their. role is going to say the board understands with almost assure goodwill. this isn't
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with folks who. want to show up on the job also album called i am. just. going to. put a cd that i've got to go in that deal but you also look at the model you punish her for all it's good for the food and so much more the shows just the moon soulful. moon you were born you must. move. welcome back joining me now to go to some weeks papers broadcaster a former liberal democrat member of parliament lembit opec lembit what you think of
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the midterms at least the attorney general is gone should be better for russia not sure about that but it's some expired somehow trant gained votes because more people voted for him we have those particular areas where he campaigned so in that sense maybe he's an electoral genius but on the other hand the last house of representatives as we always say when we have really got a clue what's going on it's too close to call and who really cares executive orders of the way forward and that is representative democracy anyway let's go to this horrific joke which made the papers all this week with different spin. yes politics as exclusive grand felt our effigy burning group members conservative party links revealed the former speaker of the house bernard weatherall who's not with us anymore he was the chair of this group that the the this bunch who who burnt an effigy of grenfell tower on bonfire night that's fifth of november in.
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exceptionally bad taste now this is caused a big for already and there seem to all fewer than the. oil stories in the world to her of kids in jersey to learn the re housing all of the jewels of a it's not that big yet but the issue here is a bunch of idiots did this in the fast pace and then we discover they can so the conservative party are involved in this as well only by proxy but that makes it embarrassing suddenly it becomes a national story there's no doubt it's tasteless whether they should go to prison for it or not it's a debatable point in as a conservative nor they took down the pictures of the members involved in the sex they have and these guys now in hiding as well so whether it's legal or not i think this is a big no no don't do this kind of thing if you want to be respected and if you don't want to bring your own political party into disrepute i don't think many people would think of doing this sort of thing they did well it's a tragedy it has gotten to a poet well. professor benjamin zephaniah says in his own words i have absolutely no interest in this job i won't work for them they oppress me they upset
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me they are not worthy i write to connect with people i have never felt the need to go via the charts the state or the monarchy to reach my people no money freedom or death is talking about being laureate he's been tipped as a successor to the opposition and he say no way not interested don't want to do it don't like the empire so he's turning down a potentially influential position now the counter-argument is why not find it from the inside why not take this position he's not even a year going for the poet laureate becomes vacant i can neither confirm nor deny ash i mean he said he wouldn't even take the order of the british empire which some . of it he did turn an o.b.e. into a no b. and that was quite a big statement too because it's quite an honor if you like that kind of thing he is distancing himself from anything colonial turned on and later than that let's go to the man who deals in malaysia. over here of us today yes here's another irony afshin the times reports european army can protect us from us policy says mark
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drawn the short version is simple trump invades your well not exactly if trump or putin invade europe he thinks that having an independent european army gives us the independence to fight alone against the russian threat and potentially against whatever's coming from america today doesn't define that threat is the irony then he goes and marches parades for peace and armistice day with wait for it putin and trump that would be an interesting conversation maybe the e.u. will protect iran after all you leaders are opposing trump on the iran deal and their parent leave the european union is saying that they go ahead with all this i think nigel furred reminded us that this would be happening and it was always denied this go into our intelligence services our security state and on it goes the canary reports m i six knew that the key source justifying the invasion of iraq was tortured but used his intelligence anyway now this is a dark store. turns out and it's not surprising to me but some of the evidence used
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to not surprising to you when you were a member of parliament you thought that there were torturing people for evidence i thought they were torturing people we knew this but it was just swept under the carpet it was an inconvenient truth british media not keen to report this kind of thing at the time of course we didn't know about this individual but the whole of the iraq war justification was riddled with an accuracy with untruths with misconceptions and deceptions turns out it also was riddled with torture we have no evidence that that continues to this well maybe not but this man was called the cook who mysteriously he died in a libyan prison apparently committed suicide question marks on that too we'll never really know the full story here but we do know that his his confessions were maintained under torture and as they say you can get people to talk but you can't get the truth by causing the pain of it over thank you. well after tomorrow's brief trump meeting in paris leaders from russia china india japan and the us will next week convene with the commonwealth nations in singapore
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to chart out a new world order of trade advising the u.k. government on china and britain's department of business energy and industrial strategies as professor usually joins me now thanks so much for going on the show everyone in the world arguably talks about the trump trade war will that be a focus of as he hands meeting in singapore. not the director utopias a focus on high over there will be some topics that the relevant because. as a country so we are directly address me caused by this trade a war i have to ask you given that you've been advising the government here why is to raise or may maybe not liam fox at the meeting i mean maybe the a big meeting in papua new guinea i'm not sure but surprise that britain hasn't got a strong delegate. because of life yeah actually you care and the china already
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have a very very close relationship and has already a try its best to attend the most significant event i know you can even have or foreign secretary whose wife is a chinese over here if you watch say the state by david b b c. read the press when they're running a story china is burdening perhaps africa with debt bloomberg asking whether china is on the road to hell with its debt why do you think there are so many articles and of course you're also with the business school here in. what do you make of the media coverage always and it's been doing this for ten years pointing to the fact that we shouldn't think china is that big a deal or anything china has a severe problems actually if you look at the fact that africa half china. china is only take
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a maybe very good when i call you one or two percent and actually it's the countries or other financial eastward out to really give a burden to african counter economy and they already are not hold for resources over this country because those countries could not afford to pay her however if you look at china main purpose is to help the development of those country certainly and get their resources but then what do you make of the attacks on china i mean usually it's either human rights or it's the fact that we shouldn't really consider china as a strong economy even now ten years of to foreign policy magazine say oh the economist magazine would say don't exaggerate china's importance i think this is because. to be honest compared to its already saving the largest economy.
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china is quite a modest compared to us china very friendly developing the strategy on the to help other us and it's not the two countries are the us and the china do not already use a military force or start wars ok so in this way maybe people are not that powerful that's because of china trying to be our friend but we now get even reports of china creating islands i know that china is surrounded by nato nations military but we also get now images of china being the warlike country as well there are many. issues that are remaining to be solved under this is seen to many other countries by the china tried to resolve all the usual so we see the surrounding countries peaceful but britain didn't. publicly
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back to the belton road massive keynesian infrastructure system in africa asia europe did you tell the british government they should publicly back it why did they not because of things like military or the rest i think because it's. a different the political system compared to many western countries rather than to our among you for the country. and actually you u. k. is a quite a supportive you know last year. both on the road to. china u.k. . or to china it's time for you. at the moment to terrorist mysterious than the most important officer under her leadership i believe was out just like a terrorist to me said. you gotten erasures through to be hung sed to
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a new level see because russia and china are now considering cross border payment systems hundred billion dollars of trade in twenty. you don't think washington will be telling downing street even while you tell the business here it's really dangerous because they're cutting out the dollar from international trade well i think many ours are comes from apart from us maybe even support of these because they would like to see who powerful countries rights are only one powerful countries so just like a you many countries the as is reason why they want to create europe because out of those counties a because the us really maybe it's better to give up using dollars yeah of course is backed by washington money and has quite a track record enough. i think maybe you were alluding to that institution with
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respect to africa yeah the queues in china. perhaps risking an international financial crisis maybe more because of the debt do you think we should be code statements made by some major nations when they criticize china for china to have its own system no matter its economy or political. on this maybe it. comes with history as you can see there is a population during the process i think a wish for the gave the chinese government more support a rise of more criticism because even for us government as there are not criticism even us create us so much trouble for the poor it rests usual thank you thank you. for the show we'll be back on monday with revelations of another p.r. spinning for saudi arabia in twenty four hours after the hundred year anniversary
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is just a hip hop artist and i just know he will explain how world war one paved the way for a century of u.k. u.s. conflict until then you can talk about social media with your money forty nine years to the day that the bulk of major initial claims about syrian use of chemical weapons seymour hersh broke the story of the me life massacre. join me every first day on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see you then. stock buybacks are basically for bread you know circling the money totally in a way that doesn't reflect the business they're not in the business except for. the business of fraud and this is rampant throughout the entire s. and p.
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five hundred it was the day of reckoning comes as it seems to be happening now you can see it. the market down forty or fifty percent you know in a way to people like oh my god what happened well that's going to live for years because they're engaged in mass and open the telephone. there's no we're building around pretty good here and no one to know why says terrorists. but there are bird memories. twenty four years ago this country saw a real end of the world. after the genocide there a moment in rwanda. and filter women to fix what the men had broken.
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it's hard to imagine decades after the war a nazi don't tell was still active rich in the nineteen seventies crittle had as the chair of its board a man convicted of mass murder and slavery at ash was a german company growing untold develops in the demise of a drug that was promoted as completely safe even during bring them to you it turned out to have terrible side effects what has happened to my baby is anything paul you know she said is just cut short arms minix a little mind victims of to this day received no compensation they never apologized for the suffering their not only want the money i want the revenge. it's been seventy years since the united nations that don't did the universal declaration on human rights. but in many places it remains
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a declaration of reality how to bridge the divide between practice. this hour's headlines stories more divisions emerge in the u.s. this time over a video involving c.n.n. reporter jim acosta claim the material was doctored in order to justify the bombing of the journalist from the white house. tweeted in support of the yemeni children where the u.n. warns tens of thousands die every year as a result of the saudi bombing campaign. syrian army rescues over a dozen hostages from the grip. of a us report reveals american aid money is ending up in the terrorists' pockets. others in.
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