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when you're in china convene to discuss the future of the planet that's followed by and apec summit in papua new guinea again the usa russia and china will be present we'll get the perspective of a u.k. government advisor on china later in the show but before that to the midterms which british media arguably suggests demonstrate donald trump's decline even though the g.o.p. won seats in the senate joining me now via skype from atlanta georgia is the green party twenty sixteen presidential candidate joe miller. thanks for coming back on record breaking turnout but still more people didn't vote than voted what is the point of u.s. elections. if it is to determine every two or four years what set of oppressors will be putting in office and i hate to sound like that but in essence because of the very real limitations of us democracy that make it very difficult for any political challenge to take place beyond the two parties then people are basically stuck with having to participate either supporting one major ruling class party or
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another and so those of us who represent thirty forces like the green party are basically marginalized and the consequence is that many people have concluded that the dems so-called democratic process in the us is irrelevant and therefore they vote by not voting because the d.n.c. often says it's not their fault it's either the russians facebook or perhaps wall believably widespread reporting of voter suppression you're a cause in georgia why is it that us elections have these irregularities and accusations it doesn't happen in venezuela or iran well in that it doesn't and what we have in the us is a eight a decision made primarily by the republicans to engage in voter suppression because they believe i think quite correctly that any expanded.
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our participation levels among the working class will be of both were probably picked up by the democrats therefore they have elaborated some very sophisticated schemes to suppress the vote in georgia they have now taken is through to a level of science in the sense that you had a individual who is running for the governor was also the secretary of state the office responsible for in essence organizing the elections and who has been in. shoes of gauging and active bonus suppression primarily of black voters he'd win at recuse themselves didn't that resigned his position and in fact has been primarily responsible for what we see as a systematic effort to undermine the black vote because we saw by wall street black lives a matter of do you think in the face of that kind of accusations people are just
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going to move politics to the street where they have to move the politics of the street to the streets that the idea that the electoral arena represents the end all of a political participation only plays into the hands of the do wabbly so even have one believes that the electoral arena is important that has to be also connected to non electoral to go participation so having one's oppositions express. industries if you will a true political organization is vitally important and that's really the message the minute it was tried to advance the idea that all politics in the u.s. should be confined just to the electoral arena only advantages the it to operate that does not represent the interests of the majority and certainly net of working class and poor people in the united states of america because now that lends
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shifted to the de facto firing of your attorney general jeff sessions what what exactly does an attorney general do because i mean he he told one ton of money last year kept it open he was attorney general when the u.s. was arguably illegally bombing syria militarily aiding the saudis in yemen who was jeff sessions with jeff sessions as part of the confederates a movement in the u.s. he is clearly a white supremacist and a nationalist we believe who was brought into the trump administration to. be they representative of the of the high as a legal office in the land of the attorney general. she fell out of favor with with chop of course because he recuse himself from the the the russian gay process ma'am as a consequence he was targeted by the trump and ministrations to be replaced as soon as the midterms were or are over but this is you know directly that office
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is tasked with the responsibility uphold of holding us law but we know that the enforcement of us law has always been skewed toward the interests of the most powerful under for example eric holder there was no prosecution of bush administration arab officials who were involved in torture and there was no investigation of the bankers who crashed the u.s. economy so you know that office theoretically supposed to be in force the law and protect the interests of the people but him. to be reduced to a instrument of whatever party is in power at the moment well i'm sure sessions or denies a racist you might say he's a nationalist like jump proudly does say but now there's this caravan that trump was name checking all the time the un saying that the children show signs of mental
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anguish and distress would would donald trump really order u.s. troops to fire on children in the caravan of the mexican border well we have no idea what he might attempt to order we don't believe that shoes when in fact far on and on armed. protesters even though truong said that any protester that had a rock there that protester should be considered to have a rifle we don't believe that that's going to happen. but again it. is representative of the kind of politics that we see in trying to center in the us because they the discourse has moved away from issues that are maybe more relevant to many people out to these wedge issues like this it is caravan so. this is part of the racial politics in the us and as something
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that is going to be with those for the next few years and there's obviously coverage in a caravan in other nato nations in britain not very much about why people should want to leave their homes and try an end to the u.s. on the mexico border what about the united states much debate about u.s. foreign policy impact and as a catalyst for emigration. well you know one of the one of the positive consequences of the of the caravan has been that within the u.s. people who are are attempting to try to understand why people are moving toward the u.s. border and as a consequence people are looking at the conditions in these various countries and that they're posing some serious questions and that allows us to provide answers so we can be splendid people they want a reason why you have such a large number of people who are leaving honduras and coming to the u.s. is as a consequence of u.s. policies in honduras they gave the green light under the obama administration to
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a anti-democratic crew in that country we can talk about what happened in el salvador and guatemala to talk about our economic policies in mexico that have destroyed the mexican economy you force people into into the cities and in and to migrate up toward the north so the people begin to understand that the interests of working class people and poor people in the u.s. are very similar to the answer as a working class or people in central america so the sort of internationalist perspective is now developing more as a consequence of this caravan and think and the kinds of questions that people are raising so it's been a very i think positive an unintended consequence of this is a situation and just briefly there's been
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a lot of talk of identity politics optimism about the new congress you think if not class politics do you think that muslims in congress for the first time going to make any differences or god's u.s. policy on israel well i i suspect not i do think that if if some of those individuals. take a very strong line that would be helpful. but you know ones as to your race i had nothing to do would one's political stance so as to be a very lonely a task if they are not able to bring more individuals within the democratic party in line with real support for a palestinian rights real support for putting a break on u.s. policies in the so-called middle east responsible for the destruction of various nations in that part of the world. the task still is trying to move
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one of those parties to it is issue where they will be in opposition to the permanent war agenda of both parties a very difficult task but one of which they're going to have to take on in conjunction with those of us who are outside of the. well who understand that it's vitally important for us the people that put a brake on us policies that are responsible for responsible for the death and destruction of millions of people around the world and of america thank you well pleasure after the break the headers of our a singapore summit we asked the u.k. government adviser on china with a britain can be part of any bold brics future it has again on from the headlines the tortured truth about the iraq invasion and the tory twists of ignited at the bait about the taste told us about going to have about two of going underground.
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welcome back joining me now to go do something week's papers broadcaster a former liberal democrat member of parliament lembit opec lembit what he think of the midterms at least the attorney general is gone should be better for russia not sure about that but it's some expired somehow trump gained votes because more people voted for him we have those particular areas where he campaigned so in that sense maybe he's an electoral genius but on the other hand the last house of representatives as we always say we haven't really got a clue what's going on it's too close to call and who really cares executive orders of the way forward and said that's representative democracy anyway let's go to this horrific joke which made the papers all this week with different spin the age of joseph yes politics as exclusive graham felt our effigy burning group members conservative party links revealed the former speaker of the house bernard weatherall who's not whether sonny moore he was the chair of this group that the the this bunch who who burnt an effigy of grenfell tower on bonfire night that's
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fifth of november and i think exceptionally bad taste now this is called to big for already and there seem to all here over there in the toxic soil stories in the royal beer of goods have been just a little in the rehab of the jewels of other it's not that big yet but the issue here is. a bunch of idiots did this in the fast pace and then we discover they can so the conservative party are involved in this as well only by proxy but that makes it embarrassing suddenly it becomes a national story there's no doubt it's tasteless whether they should go to prison for it or not it's a debatable point in as a conservative no they took down the pictures of the members involved in the sex they have and these guys now in hiding as well so whether it's legal or not i think this is a big no no don't do this kind of thing if you want to be respected and if you don't want to bring your own political party into disrepute i don't think many people would think of doing this sort of thing they did well it's a tragedy that has gone to a poet well professor benjamin zephaniah says in his own words i have
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absolutely no interest in this job i won't work for them they oppress me they upset me they are not worthy i write to connect with people i have never felt the need to go via the charts the state or the monarchy to reach my people no money freedom or death is talking about being laureate he's been tipped as a successor to that position and he say no way not interested don't want to do it don't like the empire so he's turning down a potentially influential position now the counter argument is why not find it from the inside why not take this position he's not even a year going for the poet laureate becomes vacant i can neither confirm nor deny ash i mean he said he wouldn't even take the order of the british empire which some . fake he did turn an o.b.e. into no b. and that was quite a big statement too because it's quite an honor if you like that kind of thing he is distancing himself from anything colonial turned on and later than that let's go to the man who deals in malaysia. over here of us this day yes here's another irony
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afshin the times reports european army can protect us from u.s. policies as marked on short version is simple trump invades your well not exactly if trump or putin invade europe he thinks that having an independent european army gives us the independence to fight alone against the russia. threats and potentially against whatever's coming from america today doesn't define that threat here is the irony then he goes and marches parades for peace and armistice day with wait for it putin and trump that would be an interesting conversation maybe the e.u. will protect iran after all you leaders are opposing trump on the iran deal and their parent lead the european union is saying that they're going ahead with all this i think nigel furred reminded us that this would be happening and it was always denied there's going to our intelligence services our security state and on it goes the canary reports m i six knew that a key source justifying the invasion of iraq was tortured but used his intelligence anyway now this is a dark story turns out and it's not surprising to me but some of the evidence used
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to not surprising to you when you were a member of parliament you thought that there were torturing people for evidence i thought they were torturing people we knew this but it was just swept under the carpet it was an inconvenient truth british media not to report this kind of thing at the time of course they didn't know about this individual but the whole of the iraq war justification was riddled with an accuracy with untruths with misconceptions and deceptions turns out it also was riddled with torture we have no evidence that that continues to this well maybe not but this man was called the cook who mysteriously he died in a libyan prison apparently committed suicide question marks on that too we'll never really know the full story here but we do know that his his confessions were maintained under torture and as they say you can get people to talk but you can't get the truth by causing the pain of it over thank you. well after tomorrow's brief trump meeting in paris leaders from russia china india
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japan and the us will next week convene with the commonwealth nations in singapore to chart out a new world order of trade advising the u.k. government in china britain's department of business energy and industrial strategies as professor usually joins me now thanks so much for going on the show everyone in the world arguably talks about the trump trade. the war will that be a focus of the hands meeting in singapore. not the director utopias a focus on however there will be some topics that the relevant because. as a country. director you address me caused by this trade a war i have to you given that you've been advising the government here why is to raise or may maybe not leave folks at the meeting i mean maybe the a big meeting in papua new guinea i'm not sure but surprise that britain hasn't got a stronger legation because of life yeah actually u.k.
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on the china already have a very very close relationship and the u.k. has already a try its best to attend the most significant event i know you can even have or foreign secretary whose wife is a chinese over here if you watch say the stable data b b c. read the press when they're running a story china is burdening perhaps africa with debt bloomberg asking whether china is on the road to hell with its debt why do you think there are so many articles and of course you're also with the business school here in. what do you make of the media coverage always and it's been doing this for ten years pointing to the fact that we shouldn't think china is that big a deal or anything china has a severe problems actually if you look at the fact that africa half
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china ok let that go to china i use only take a maybe very good when i call you one or two percent and actually it's the countries or other financial institutions out to really give a burden to african counter economy and they already control. not hold war resources over this country it's because those countries could not afford to pay with her however if you look at china main purpose is to help the development of those country certainly and get their resources but then what do you make of the attacks on china i mean usually it's either human rights or it's the fact that we shouldn't really consider china as a strong economy even now ten years of the foreign policy magazine say or the economist magazine would say don't exaggerate china's importance i think this is because. to be honest compared to its already saving the largest economy.
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china is quite a modest compared to us. very friendly developing the strategy on the to help other us and it's not the two countries are the us and china do not already use the military force or start wars ok so in this way maybe people think that china are not that powerful that's because of china trying to be our friend but we now get even reports of china creating islands i know that china is surrounded by nato nations military but we also get now images of china being the warlike country as well there are many. issues that the remaining to be solved under this is seen to many other countries by the china trying to resolve all the usual so we see the surrounding countries that you know
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peaceful but britain didn't. publicly back the belton road massive keynesian infrastructure system africa asia europe did you tell the british government they should publicly back it why did they not because of things like military or the rest i think because a china adopt a different political system compared to many western countries rather than to our money for their country. and actually you u. k. is a quite a supportive you know last year. bet on the road to. china. or to china it's time for you even at the moment a terrorist mysterious than the most important officer under her leadership i believe is out just like
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a terrorist to me said. you golden era hugh to be in hong sed to a new level c. because russia and china are now considering cross border payment systems has been a hundred billion dollars of trade in twenty eighteen you don't think washington will be telling downing street even while you tell the business here it's really dangerous because they're cutting out the dollar from international trade well i think many ours are comes from apart from us maybe even support of these because they would like to see who powerful countries rights are only one powerful countries so just like a you many countries. as is the reason why they want to create your royal is because out there there was a counter is that because the really maybe it's better to give up using dollars yeah m.f. of course is backed by washington money and has quite
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a track record in half. i think maybe you were alluding to that institution with respect to africa yeah. using china rather. perhaps risking an international financial crisis maybe more because of the debt do you think we should the code statements made by some major nations when they criticize china i think for china to have its own system no matter its economy or political system and this may be the largest comes we. can say there is a population but during the process i think a wish for the gave the chinese government more support rise of more criticism because even for us government as there are not criticism even us creators so much trouble for the word press usual thank you thank you and that's it for the show we'll be back on monday with revelations of another p.r.
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spinning for saudi arabia in twenty four hours after the hundred year anniversary just a hip hop artist and i just know he will explain how world war one paved the way for a century of u.k. u.s. conflict until then you can talk about social media with your money forty nine years to the day that the bulk of major initial claims about syrian use of chemical weapons seymour hersh broke the story of the me like massacre in vietnam.
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