do you think you are kidding mr young we do don't want any part of any you want me and i doubt the rest of the peoples of europe do either for the bricks at the left of arguably be much more keen on improving trade ties with the former colonial developing world than creating armies in nations that spark not one but two world wars for those like tony benn breck's it was always about democracy i think that the power to govern ourselves must remain with the british people co-operate worldwide trade will join the united nations be members of the international community but cut the umbilical cord that links the lawmakers with the people and you destroy the stability of this country and well stability will be a subject in singapore tomorrow when leaders from russia the us and you're in china convene to discuss the future of the planet that's followed by and apec summit in papua new guinea again the usa russia and china will be present we'll get the perspective of a u.k. government advisor on china later in the show but before that to the midterms which

british media rugby suggests demonstrate don't trump's decline even though the g.o.p. won seats in the senate joining me now via skype from atlanta georgia is the green party twenty sixteen vice presidential candidate joe miller. thanks for coming back on record breaking turnout but still more people didn't vote than voted what is the point of us elections. it is to determine every two or four years what presses will be put in office and i hate to sound like that but in essence because of the very real limitations of u.s. democracy that make it very difficult for any political challenge to take place beyond the two parties then people are basically stuck with having to participate either supporting major ruling class party or another and so those of us who isn't so third forces like the green party. basically marginalized and the

consequence is that many people have concluded that the dems so-called democratic process in the us is irrelevant and therefore they vote by not voting because the d.n.c. often says it's not their fault it's either the russians facebook or perhaps more believably widespread reporting of voter suppression you're a cause in georgia why is it that the us elections have these irregularities and accusations it doesn't happen in venezuela or iran well it doesn't and what we have in the us is a eight a decision may primarily by the republicans to engage in voter suppression because they believe i think quite correctly that any expanded. our participation levels among the working class will be of those that were probably picked up by the democrats therefore they have elaborated some very

sophisticated schemes to suppress the vote in georgia they have now taken those two to a level of science in the sense that you had a individual who is running for the governor was also the secretary of state the office responsible for in essence organizing the elections and who has been accuse of being gauging and active botha suppression primarily of black voters he'd win at recuse themselves didn't that resigned his position and in fact have been primarily responsible for what we see as a systematic effort to undermine the black vote because we saw by wall street black lives matter that you think in the face of that kind of accusations people are just going to move politics to the street where they have to move the politics of the street to the streets the idea that the electoral arena represents the end all of.

of political participation only plays into the hands of the do wobbly so even have one believes that the electoral arena is important that has to be also connected to non electoral to go participation so having one's oppositions express. industries if you will a true political organisation is vitally important and that's really the message that minibus tried to advance the idea that all politics in the u.s. should be confined just to the electoral arena only advantages the it to operate that does not represent the interests of the majority and certainly net of working class employ people in the united states of america because now that lends shifted to the de facto firing of your attorney general jeff sessions what what exactly does an attorney general do because i mean he he too and went on a my last year kept it open but he was attorney general when the u.s.

was arguably illegally bombing syria militarily aiding the saudis and yemen who was jeff sessions with jeff sessions as part of the confederates a movement in the us he is clearly a white supremacist and a nationalist we believe who was brought into the trump administration to be the representative of the of the hire as a legal office in the land of the attorney general. she fell out of favor with with chop of course because he recused himself from. the the rushing a process ma'am as a consequence he was targeted by the trumped up and ministrations to be replaced as soon as the midterms were or are over but this is you know directly that office is tasked with the responsibility uphold of holding us lol. but we know that

the enforcement of u.s. law has always been skewed toward the interests of the most powerful under for example eric holder there was no prosecution of bush administration arab officials who were involved in torture and there was no investigation of the bankers who crashed the u.s. economy so you know that office theoretically supposed to be in force the law and protect the interests of the people but him. it would be reduced to a instrument of whatever party is in power at the moment when i'm sure sessions or deny he's a racist you might say he's a nationalist like trump proudly does say but now there's this caravan that trump was name checking all the time the u.n. saying that the children show signs of mental anguish and distress would would donald trump really order u.s. troops to fire on children in the caravan of the mexican border well we have no

idea what he might attempt to order we don't believe that troops when in fact fire on and on armed. protesters even though trump said that any protester that had a rock there that protester should be considered to have a rifle we don't believe that that's going to happen. but again it is representative of the kind of politics that we see in front and center in the u.s. because they the discourse has moved away from from issues that are maybe more relevant to many people out to these wedge issues like this this caravan so. this is part of the racial politics of the u.s. and is something that is going to be with us for the next few years and there's always the coverage of the caravan in other nato nations in britain not very much about why people should want to leave their homes and try an end to the u.s.

on the mexico border what about the united states much debate about u.s. foreign policy impact and as a catalyst for immigration. well you know one of the one of the positive consequences of that of the caravan has been that within the u.s. people who are are attempting to try to understand why people are moving toward the u.s. border and as a consequence people are looking at the conditions in these various countries and that they're posing some serious questions and that allows us to provide answers so we can be splendid people that want to reason why you have such a large number of people who are leaving honduras and coming to the u.s. is as a consequence of u.s. policies in honduras they gave the green light under the obama administration to a anti-democratic crew in that country we can talk about what happened in el

salvador and guatemala to talk about our economic policies in mexico that have destroyed the mexican economy you force people into into the cities and in and to migrate to what the north so the people begin to understand that the interests of working class people and poor people in the u.s. are very similar to the extras a working class for people in central america so the sort of internationalist perspective is now developing more as a consequence of this caravan and think and the kinds of questions that people are raising so it's been a very i think positive an unintended consequence of this is a situation and just briefly there's been a lot of talk of identity politics optimism about the new congress you think if not class politics do you think that muslims in congress for the first time

going to make any difference as regards u.s. policy on israel well i i suspect not i do think that if if some of those individuals. take a very strong line that would be helpful. but you know ones as to your race i have nothing to do what one's political stance so it will be a very lonely a task if they are not able to bring more individuals within the democratic party in line with real support for palestinian rights real support for putting a brake on u.s. policies in the so-called middle east that's responsible for the destruction of various nations in that part of the world. the task still is trying to move one of those parties to it is issue where they will be in opposition to the

permanent wards end of both parties the very difficult task but one of which they are going to have to take on in conjunction with those of us who are outside of the . well who understand that it's vitally important for us the people that put a brake on us policies that are responsible responsible for the death and destruction of millions of people around the world and of america thank you well pleasure after the break headers of our a singapore summit we asked the u.k. government's adviser on china with a britain can be part of any bold brics future into c.n.n. on from the headlines the tortured truth about the iraq invasion that tony twists of ignited at the bait a bad taste told us of all going to have about two of going underground.

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welcome back join me now because on the week's paper's broadcaster for the brill democrat member of parliament lembit opec lembit what he think of the midterms at least the attorney general is gone should be better for russia not sure about that but it's some expired somehow trump gained votes because more people voted for him he had those particular areas where he campaigned so in that sense maybe he's an electoral genius but on the other hand the last house of representatives as we always say when we have really got a clue what's going on it's too close to call and who really cares executive orders of the way forward and said that's representative democracy anyway let's go to this horrific joke which made the papers all this week but slight difference being the age of joseph yes politics says exclusive grand felt our effigy burning group members conservative party links revealed the former speaker of the house bernard

weatherall who's not whether sonny moore he was the a chair of this group that the the this bunch who who burnt an effigy of grenfell tower on bonfire night that's fifth of november. i think exceptionally bad taste now this is called to big for already and there seemed to all get over it in the toxic soil stories in the royal beer of kids and just a little in the rehab of the jewels of a it's not that big yet but the issue here is a punch. of idiots did this in the fast pace and then we discover they can so the conservative party are involved in this as well only by proxy but that makes it embarrassing suddenly it becomes a national story there's no doubt it's tasteless whether they should go to prison for it or not it's a debatable point in as a conservative club and they took down the pictures of the members involved in the sex they have and these guys now in hiding as well so whether it's legal or not i think this is a big no no don't do this kind of thing if you want to be respected and if you don't want to bring your own political party into disrepute i don't think many

people would think of doing this sort of thing they did well if it's a tragedy that has gotten to a poet well professor benjamin zephaniah says in his own words i have absolutely no interest in this job i won't work for them they oppress me they upset me they are not worthy i write to connect with people i have never felt the need to go via the charts the state or the monarchy to reach my people no money freedom or death is talking about being laureate he's been tipped as a successor to that position and he say no way not interested don't want to do it don't like the empire so he's turning down a potentially influential position now the counter argument is why not find it from the inside why not take this position he's not even a year going for the poet laureate becomes vacant i can neither confirm nor deny ash i mean he said he wouldn't even take the order of the british empire which some . fake he did turn an o.b.e. into a no b. and that was quite a big statement too because it's quite an honor if you like that kind of thing he

is distancing himself from anything colonial turned on and later than that let's go to the man who deals in malaysia. over here of us does day yes here's another irony afshin the times reports european army can protect us from u.s. policies as marked on short version is simple trump invades your well not exactly if trump or putin invade europe he thinks that having an independent european army gives us the independence to fight alone against the russian threat and. attention against whatever's coming from america today doesn't define that threat is the irony then he goes and marches parades for peace and armistice day with wait for it putin and trump that would be an interesting conversation maybe the e.u. will protect iran after all you leaders are opposing trump on the iran deal and apparently the european union is saying that they're going ahead with all this i think nigel furred reminded us that this would be happening and it was always denied there's going to our intelligence services our security state and on it goes the canary reports m i six knew that the key source justifying the invasion of iraq

was tortured but used his intelligence anyway now this is a dark story turns out and it's not surprising to me but some of the evidence used to not surprising to you when you were a member of parliament who thought that there were torturing people for evidence i thought they were torturing people we knew this but it was just swept under the carpet it was an inconvenient truth british media not keen to report this kind of thing at the time of course they didn't know about this individual but the whole of the iraq war justification was riddled with an accuracy with untruths with misconceptions and deceptions turns out it also was riddled with torture we have no evidence that that continues to this well maybe not but this man was called the cook who mysteriously he died in a libyan prison apparently committed suicide question marks on that too we'll never really know the full story here but we do know that his his confessions were maintained under torture and as they say you get people to talk but you can't get

the truth by causing the pain of it over thank you. well after tomorrow's brief trump meeting in paris leaders from russia china india japan and the us will next week convene with the commonwealth nations in singapore to chart out a new world order of trade advising the u.k. government on china and britain's development of business energy and industrial strategies as professor usually joins me now thanks so much for going on the show everyone in the world arguably talks about the trump trade war will that. we focus meeting in singapore. not the director utopias a focus on however there will be some topics that the relevant because. as a country. director you address me caused by this trade a war i have to you given that you've been advising the government here why is to raise or may maybe not legal folks meeting i mean maybe the

a big meeting in papua new guinea i'm not sure but surprise that britain hasn't got a strong delegation because of life yeah actually you care and the china already have a very very close relationship and has already a try its best to attend the most significant event i know you could even have or foreign secretary whose wife is a chinese over here if you would say the stable data b b c. read the press when they're running a story china is burdening perhaps africa with debt bloomberg asking whether china is on the road to hell with its debt why do you think there are so many articles and of course you're also with the business school here in. what do you make of the media coverage always and it's been doing this for ten years pointing to the fact that we shouldn't think china is that big a deal or anything china has

a severe problems actually if you look at the fact that africa accounts for half china ok let that go to china i use only take a maybe very good when i call you one or two percent and actually it's the countries or other financial east you're allowed to really give a burden to african counter is economy and they already control not hold water. resources over this country because those countries could not afford to pay with her however if you look at china main purpose is to help the development of those country certainly and get their resources but then what do you make of the attacks on china i mean usually it's either human rights or it's the fact that we shouldn't really consider china as a strong economy even now ten years of foreign policy magazine say oh the

economist magazine would say don't exaggerate china's importance i think this is because that. to be honest compared to its already saving the largest economy. china is quite a modest compared to us china very friendly developing the strategy on the to help other us and it's not the two countries are the us and china do not already use the military force or start wars ok so in this way maybe people think that china are not that powerful because of china trying to be our friend but we now get even reports of china creating islands i know that china is surrounded by nato nations military but we also get now images of china being the warlike country as well there are many. issues that to remain in

to be solved under this is seen to many other countries by china trying to resolve all the usual so we says the surrounding countries peaceful but britain didn't. publicly back the belt and rode massive keynesian infrastructure system to africa asia europe did you tell the british government they should publicly back it why did they not because of things like military. i think because it's. a different the political system compared to many western countries rather than to our among you for the country. and actually you u. k. is a quite a supportive you know last year. both on the road to. china u.k.'s chancing or to china it's time for you. at the moment to terrorist mysterious the most important officer under her leadership

i believe was out just like a terrorist to me said. you golden era hugh to be hung sed to a new level c. because russia and china are now considering cross border payment systems hundred billion dollars of trade in twenty. you don't think washington will be telling downing street even while you tell the business here it's really dangerous this because they're cutting out the dollar from international trade well i think they need ours or comes from apart from us maybe even support of these because they would like to see who powerful countries rights are only one powerful countries so just like a you many countries the as is reason why they want to create europe because out there was countries because the really maybe it's better to give up using dollars

yeah of course backed by washington money and has quite a track record in. i think maybe you were alluding to that institution with respect to africa. perhaps risking an international financial crisis maybe more because of the debt do you think we should be code statements made by some major nations when they criticize china i think for china to have its own system. economy. on this maybe. you can see there is a population during the process i think a wish for the chinese government more support to rise up more criticism because even for us government has not. given us create

a so much trouble for the. rest of usual thank you thank you and that's it for the show we'll be back on monday with revelations of numbers beyond spinning for saudi arabia in twenty four hours of the one hundred year anniversary. and i just hope you will explain how it will go one paved the way for a century of u.k. u.s. conflict until the media of the forty nine years to the day that the bulk of major initial claims about syrian use of chemical weapons seymour hersh broke the story of the me like massacre in. stock buybacks are basically for bridge you know circling of money totally in a way that doesn't reflect the business they're not in the business except for the business of fraud and this is rampant throughout the entire s. and p.

five hundred and one day of reckoning comes as it seems to be happening now you can see it in. the market down forty or fifty percent you know in a week and people like oh my god what happened well that's going to. for years because of their. talent. in twenty four you know bloody revolution of you tube the demonstrations going to be relatively peaceful political protests to be. revolution is always spontaneous. is it you still hear. blowing needle the former ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty four g. . you've invested over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. side

after a touch of european army as the french president and warmly welcomed donald trump to paris for the centenary commemorations of the first world war. more divisions emerge in the u.s. this time over a video involving c.n.n. reporter jim acosta some claim that material was adopted in order to justify the bombing of the journalist from the white house. cry of saudi arabia poses a tweet in support of yemeni children where the u.n. wants tens of thousands die every year as a result of the bombing campaign. and the syrian army rescues over a dozen hostages from the grip of islamic.