palestinians if it's known in advance that any sort of undercover military action there will end up in heavy response from the militants. i cannot fully explain the palestinian behavior but that threatens the normalcy of life of our. citizens on the gaza strip and. compelled the i.d.f. to respond very aggressively to store usually or mainly through attacks and destroy some sensitive installations of hamas of course it doesn't end the whole story but as of now when we are talking it's a much more quiet let's hope it would be remain quiet if it won't remain quiet out not be surprised if the government will order the israeli defense force it to heat even how sure how do which might cause more collateral damage usually modem it's

the hamas. escalated the actions which of bed i think for both sides so egypt and the united nations have been trying to broker a cease fire between hamas and israel for several months already and just when it seemed to be create upon israel conducted this secret rate in gaza now from the outside it looks like its route is kind of sabotaging this peace process or will in your opinion is israel really interesting oh no no no way no no it's just a coincidence this kind of operations quite a bit where when they're needed and. needed full good or crucial security needs usually they never come into the public eye the guys know how to do it without being exposed along the way so it's basically something that happened against wishful for sure. but it happened in

a moment which was sensitive and probably helped these two taken out of twenty four forty eight hours before. will cease fire came into existence now israel's defense minister avigdor lieberman has resigned and he called the ceasefire which hamas and israel have eventually signed up to as surrender to hamas terror do you agree. yeah i mean you know i belong to the opposition reserve and so am how slick it is our own government for being. not. not not not the more do is see but mall is so cool about it if you told some us so i agreed that basically our government is yielding to hamas under fire it's not a secret that if you're saying you are the head of hamas he decided when to open fire he decided he wanted to stop it and he might decide when do if you meet the government but my criticism is now that about our government that did not order the

armed forces to take over gaza because our armed forces can take over gaza strip within several a few days but the question of what we ought to we do do after war no one would come to replace us to sit on our bionet and control gaza so we don't have anything to gain from. we can kill in the gaza strip. my complaint and our government that they are not using the for last four years since their last wide open ation in order to make sure that we are capable of inserting wage between the almost two million palestinians in gaza strip and to some us israel has an interest to weaken hamas israel has an interest to make sure that life normal did enough hours so for electricity enough. enough air quit made in the in the hospitals

the. quality of water is a make the potable water so we don't have an interest in human suffering in gaza and our government some will fail to do it they fail to realize the strategically we have to strengthen abu mazin the p.l.o. in the mullah and to weaken hamas in gaza not the other way around. so labor party has left the coalition government and the jewish home party threatens to follow suit on less its leader naftali bennett gets to seat of defense minister could this be the beginning of a and for an attorney on his coalition i mean how could its potential downfall affect or impact the peace process. you know in these well we are going to have. to most by next october we have new elections so it's only a may question where the election will take place in. whole five months will know

all ten or eleven months from now that the whole difference about. a lot of the. informal members of the opposition in israel i still really believe in the hope that these events we'll accept the weight falling down over this government needs replacement by a better government for israel and israelis so the army wanted the ceasefire but always leave it on the i was allies do not and there were a demonstration is in israel demanding war do using these really public wants another operation you know we have a phenomenon that we call in to do is this unfortunately because we had. half a dozen of phones in in gaza in the last ten or fifteen you basically everyone is. and. clipping.

when you enter gaza when you start a major operation but usually afterwards when it becomes clear that the only. result is to bring. in under basically the same terms there's a lot of frustration so what we see now is to eat. option of emotions because the government to really abundant for eight months now the people around the street you know in. the. socket of the football matches in. moscow the people around you never came to. me preferred to to fly to moscow to see the. kind of. mitchell so it's basically the feeling is the first to ration their life are not normal children who are growing and the trauma you have always to be within fifteen

can form function. if not. those approached for it and the government pays the political price of being able to shape a consistent structed. and a consistent structure doesn't have to do with the shooting will suit the goal choosing is a matter for the generals the government doesn't. it by the government to shape or strategy which is that we can use from us and strengthening of all muslim that what failing to do seventy years ago israel started with a handicap surrounded by enemies having to fight to prove its right to exist and now look at still the same for is raw it has normalized its existence and there are still not a single friendly neighbor and the arab masses hate you terrorist target you sure you can bomb them all away like you did it in sixty seven but this is rao have

a chance to become an accepted player in the neighborhood not just the toughest scariest kate on the block. i'm confident that we can it might take time and do we need patience nations on our developing. position within the neighbors over night. and we have to bear in mind that you know the way that a person cannot choose parents a nation cannot choose its neighbors though ever but there is enough difference seventy years ago when the u.n. general assembly decided about partition plan making two states in palestine a jewish state and of state israel accepted it in spite of the fact that our state was supposed to be three continents are connected with our building without even a vote to do them and the palestinians rejected didn't try to kill the babies or before we can stand on our feet so we warned against all odds and we're not going

to be apologetic about it anymore it's the burden of responsibility for the whole tragedy is on the other side which rejected the white time and once again the proposal from outside i was fifty years later prime minister i proposed to our father to put an end to the the whole conflict through some compromises then he rejected tenderly we're going to tell so we do not feel morally responsible but at the same time it's not good to say did nothing to change fifty years ago a day six days of war our most brilliant triumph. the israeli government immediately said that except for julianne we hold the rest of the. occupied territories as a deposit for the go shit in peace the arabs god. and decided that no condition no negotiation no peace for whatever had been

taken by force will work big by phone but since then we have thirty years of peace with the strongest country. into out of most important out of country egypt forty years of peace it's not the ideal peace it's not like the peace between you and i in no way. but it's a piece. even when the muslim brotherhood is under morsi were in power in egypt they didn't do two concerts we have twenty five years of peace with. the longest border not just in my government but bibi's government try to make peace even with a sound the fact that i'm not the sun and we fade in full fifteen years we have so there we have been proposed for peace in exchange for basically bowden based on my own sixty seven between us and the palestinian state we found a lens through up and there is out of league proposal so we cannot say that nothing

can change we cannot say nothing had changed it's true of the diplomacy i'm not here to over the always new enemies to do with and one wouldn't guy then do it later. and we still are not fully quiet but real storm we are fighting and my difference was our own government i own government that i believe that israel is so strong willed the strongest country thousand miles of jewels land we can afford considering how to negotiate the peace out of strength and self-confidence we don't have to we scold so but we have to change do them out in situation even if it takes time and take certain kind of compromises ok mr barak we're going to take a short break right now and when we have apple continue talking until after the iraq's former prime minister mr al discussing the troubled middle east peace process stay with us.

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hawks. and we're back with a hood bar on the former prime minister of israel discussing the prospects of the israeli palestinian peace in the light of the latest escalation on mr barak as would already mentioned before israel's relations with its arab neighbors have always been bet most of them still don't recognize a state of israel but lately we see netanyahu paying gives it to oman first in two decades then this overtures to riyadh is that working can we really talk about israel's normalization with the arab world. you know it's better than what we were in the about and less than what i hoped for you know we basically visited the old

man twenty years ago i was twenty two years ago i was a foreign minister of israel under shimon peres and we too ever all around the region we met informally with other leaders all around so it's not something new but basically there is some truth in what you have said in the recent three years there is a good weight common interest to the emulate so you it via egypt and jordan it is to our corner to put it be a deal one ian had to monica nuclear intentions to struggle to where or against radical muslim terror war and to create a counterweight to the shade manana which stretches form for my tale one to damascus tell on baghdad damascus be rude so these elements.

on the table they should be used and we think to be missing the reason is that it cannot fly together we cannot why don't these common interests without being graded to give thirty three with the palestinian issue now because the autocrats in the through night our world have certain sentiments though for the present probably they don't but the people those autocratic leaders in between so you know in the gulf they cannot sit face on their own chairs if and accept israel publicly as a legitimate member of the family of can't overstate in do isn't in the region if the palestinians and do permanent israeli. control and they need certain change and i think that the. what we can get from the other world from this tonight. is so important that it justifies certain compromises

reserving the palestinians in old need in order to enable it to flood so sometimes as our government of failing to do it and i think that it could be change former israeli prime minister ehud olmert believe that mahmoud abbas is the only palestinian leader able to bring the two state solution to life but his pasta is actually at loggerheads with hamas official line is to destroy israel in your opinion how big of an obstacle is this fatah hamas confrontation for the israeli palestinian peace process can israel reach a peace deal with the west bank palestine and ignore gaza. i don't think you can ignore gaza and when we left gaza some oil fields ago eleven years ago no more than twelve. we hope that the police do so the form. then we control the whole area somehow at the moment do point of view hamas took over and

change the actions but israel has an indoor not in the continuation of the tension is some israelis believe including the government i think that i was really into this is that somehow they will get united and do. but it's to neural so if the un do a model on the market because abu mazin with all his. kind of weaknesses is a palestinian leader which prefers call position and living side by side over violence and the cannot stop all violence and probably doesn't want to stop all violence and we have a many complaints about him but nothing to compare with a month how much of a move to those with whom there is no hope of even possibility of any negotiation. make them favor for a favor. kind of play along the other side by our government though the right wing government talking about putting an end to it they find themselves

unable or unwilling to we really try to destroy some us at the same time they focus their efforts on weakening abu mazin and indeed. this is why we have been in do is to whether with egypt saudi arabia the emulates and the to strengthen up to mars and to make him the one he cannot come to gaza own israeli bionet but together with the. others and the americans we can create a situation where the palestinian people in gaza might have a second so they should be filled. in over the coming so truong is promising to release an actual mideast peace plan in a couple months but saying how washington has lost the trust of the palestinian side after an opening of the u.s. embassy in jerusalem teasing the united states still can't be relied on for mediation will palestinians in a look at the plan that he is proposing i think that the palestinian over

exaggerating the meaning of the american statement i think that the statement should have come seventy seven years ago for twenty five years ago after the congress passed a resolution it was for many reasons delayed by the previous president i don't think that in any way the moving of american embassy to jerusalem exclude the possibility that once the palestinians comes to. mind to strike a deal with israel. because we move embassy to the palestinian state to their capital will be if the capital we behave two feet in the suburbs every book suburbs. near jerusalem or in the eastern part of journalism i don't see i don't see any. wesen to over but should it meet. to kill know to have the trump plane being executed successfully is the last of trust between

easily leadership and palestinian leadership not a single drop of trust each side whenever something is put on the table to either. repair the blame game both sides assume that the two will come to a deadlock and do real game is how to make sure that the other side will be blamed for the for you and recently the palestinians supposedly lost trust in the american side as honest broker. starting point but still because i'm. optimistic in a way i think that we should always look for a way to go over the over twice once again to why do we teach. it's better than war i spend my life fighting i tell you we are ready to fight we are stronger we know how to fight but profoundly we prefer to believe.

relaxation and normalization of the relationship even if there is no power. among the palestinians who is ready and capable of doing good we should probably take certain unilateral steps to start the divorce the separation from the past but do it in a way that will not will not destroy the chances of a palestinian state in the future once they come to do. to do the census and try to do so let's talk a bit about iran you have said that iran doesn't present any existential threat to israel i agree however at the current israeli government is just obsessed with the threat from iran it's always iran they say iran that whatnot why is israel so nervous about iran's influence in the middle east. oh it basically we don't like the iranian behavior don't don't don't be misled by by the month you know you are

in is a major threat to the stability in the middle east and to israel in the longer term what i've said is that as long as these agreement is still in power and as long as they are one years. following the basically the letter of the agreement. it delays their potential threat to israel by years probably a decade probably more it's too early to know we shall never let the iranians resume their efforts to become a nuclear power and we should be ready to coordinate with united states or even independently to block them from. becoming a nuclear military power but having said that i don't think that there is any media existential threat form iran in the in the short and to meet the level and we have other problems like you know creating these alliances regional alliance with the moderates who need to promote the. arrangement with the palestinians to

prepare the ground for a separation or divorce for the palestinians to help the situation be that we will have one palestinian pople not all of them and so on so we have a different way always the government is a you know we're very populist extreme right wing government. internationalists to each. got to fight infection the sense of they were action and identity form identifying them or form without trait or form within that was the productive so far we tell you movement all along his story at least in the last two hundred years and we saw it in other places we didn't to know well and we still. believe that we are strong enough. we are so strong that we can fold being much will be at least if not to being always really didn't cut off hunted by them or

around us so by plato's slow music they are not i do them ones no place those lives through it. all right whisper i just have time for one last question so i'm going to ask you to answer briefly if you can israel hass praising united states for resuming sanctions against iran at the same time tehran has reiterated threats to resume q re naming the reach mint now you have said that it on do was bad but until now it prevented iran from developing nuclear weapons is it still better forester out to have some deal in place than no deal at all. those differences between us here you know first of all i don't like to do is meet the. speed so i sold it. you know and then was. but once it was signed it became part of the with ality i sold the president trump had other ways to resume negotiations about splitting toe

or developing me things or any other issue which was outrage of the deal and to try to negotiate it but once he announced a sanction the part of the issue. out of reality it creates certain economic stress was in iran but always spins from a kid to very little hope that this will destroy all of the. they will find some way to overcome i don't believe that they will break out and try to resume full fledged nuclear fall but some new of enjoyment globally might be found down the street i think that we should be clear we have nothing against the iranian people great people it's only about a tool of and causing tension to develop nuclear weapons and. to eliminate israel from over. we are strong enough we are not afraid but we have to make sure that independently or where those united states the world community will

make sure that iran will never course the line into maybe two nuclear capability and to think that the this is achievable right mr barak thank you very much for your interview for your insight pleasure talking to you were talking to a hood iraq former israeli prime minister discussing the latest escalation in gaza and whether it's pushing the israeli palestinian peace for there a way that is it for this edition of set him koala see you next.

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