all of artificial intelligence from them pull in and they produce will culture search engines recommendation systems you know which is building became a retreat for those it's very easy to assume with this is going to lead to less cultural diversity but also mechanisms which perhaps can make it more they were resample spotify rights were largest music's the services as it is the study of where we showed with every month the number of different music artists we wish isn't isn't in to is increasing by a few percent right so so it's possible with which knowledge is going to make a world more diverse illis there were some same time. that's an interesting and somewhat paradoxical statement but if you took the most popular apps i assume that they're still playing by the numbers rather than the quality of the contents of don't you think about focus on the numbers the numbers of likes the number of let's say promotions don't just think that it's going to be

a driving in the overall direction towards something less original of rather than more original you know we'll hold these unlikely just cultural if you slip eleven years ago as i said that's exactly the kind of questions we like to talk about and often the difference and sometimes a vicious door to be wrong so ideally i would like to study with would like to measure it of course how do you measure traits here each year because billions of images have billions of video with a very hard question so only too much of a level i think to give you but ideally i would like to check that i heard you say that your work involves a lot of steer a tie busting what are some of the. most memorable stereotypes that in your work managed to the five would be one of the most interesting discovery or our maybe new a function which our quantitative database studies lead to is this idea of it's still tend to think about culture away with this contemporary culture is there

a culture in terms of periods which is a separate gotcha gris the cultural center is regressive the cultural more school impressionism versus solo or it's ever started lots of cultural artifacts millions and millions and using scientific methods robert in fact was turns out is but continue to the things out the similarity is opposed to difference so while for example it's been said one bloke was customary you are years into p.a.'s base the race he lived in europe and paris and are in fact results of continuities between his art so this idea with culture is more about continue it it's about small but addictive differences there are with huge qualitative boxes the way we feature with heritage the thing from later century which of course it was that you have not always that had been sad when growth are but also billions of images on instagram and someone said that this is something extremely trivial why would anyone concern

himself with that people taking pictures of themselves what can you extrapolate from. that about human behavior in general. first thing i want to say so we look at bus fifty million stick them images but isn't there a look at two hundred seventy million images shared on twitter but for for years we also look at the deed in the arts which is the largest online of the archive a network full of professional art and love of how those words will have people instagram is but it's all unselfishness it's all a pictures of stars and celebrities reality each of us social networks offices everything you'll find everything you'll find in you at the p.r. plus more so what's the soy is incredible there's your are incredible universe of human creativity right of different styles but i do experiments was up we came across some fifteen year old high school students iberia who said guys for the last three weeks i was experimenting with it in one piece a white line who bore them

a fourth us how do you like it so this idea that it's all to the real it exactly was which was question once you started which is the data but in practical terms i know that they also have a degree in experimental psychology do you think that's kind of knowledge adds anything to the reservoir of our knowledge about something i think it does and i came to mean me personally right the best thing about this availability of big data for study of society of humans in culture is vet who today we can observe what right use of human behavior it was hundred fifty occultists in billions of people so to me it. riz apart tensional right to create a new kind of science of society in humans which will not generalizable same level which we recognize but i may be a false sense of humor which ration sort of houses of quite a few groups not only five and ten but the way we do it and do it in practice you

know it's a big question because a whole society a whole new research is still very much designed is that essential way relates to you know as you were five me to asians you resort to types of societies and swore so this idea that because studies humans were biologists that ability of the world were really cognize hundred million different pieces to some extent and when i was thinking about it about it it struck me that researchers could never fully access that thick layer of human culture that it's now studying it's almost similar to human hearing which is limited at certain frequencies and human academic a past and analyzing capacity was also as you said limited to a fairly small sample size is now e.u. big you take a much bigger i think one of us that is involved over a billion they'd a points right well with two hundred seventy million images well that's still a subtle difference actually was ever actually that we got to go on society after

a second because the demand from twitter and twitter said ok guys would you want to see the world every image which you showed to twitter location until the time was a bit about you how many would have because we have no time to code but here eventually out of was about two hundred seventy million over a few years so that's what a lot but that's in any case a fundamentally different vantage point does it offer anything special in terms of . being a research method as a recession rather is it in any way doesn't give you an venues for something something new i think of the us so first of all right before is yourself you know if you making any kind of study of society or culture typically it's local it's like used sits them in separate you which is the world's. all eyes and what you see is what you should when our eyes see it no it doesn't cost any more to make a study of local rights oprah's up like an election cycle image has been shared around you know this location and some police work in just a bit of effort i can collect you know

a few extra thousands of locations and i think the me it's very important because of being sick i'm a comparative i was a more democratic point of view because realize that no particle place is unique in that if you miss most of comparative more global point of view is one which is appropriate also thought or historical period i think what's interesting about it is that it's both global and local at the same time and what i wanted to are asking is how much cultural rary ational plays into big data things you know to be true about the americans and the chinese how much do they relate to the russians or let's say the president hands free a question about self-esteem it's maybe a good example writes in the surface of the project which we created in two thousand and twelve was published that was the first you recollect you're going to few thousand selfless from your five five cities around the world in the use of computer vision software to measure your head of the size of a hair the real people are looking you know i was smiling when emotions at certain adventure followed with a bit of variation for example in the proportion of self has been sherbet in female

male. if anyplace all places male if you males are showing more selfish some medicine how shy but the biggest number was in russia it was actual most five times what you will stop us from manila versus a billion in europe there's only one point wife's even in the level of self has found lots of lots of variation why it is you know by study doesn't us or a study kind of finds an effect which now we have to explain circa gives us new puzzles that they have any interest since about that because you do have a flaw in both societies yes i don't spend enough time with the russian rights of identity in the russian minister would be for mystery to me. but i think one theme has been though with russia it's a very visual culture and it's a very fashionable set culture and to me russia reminds me a lot of asia rock self-pity in mr graham it's completely part of everyday life in a way in a most wrong way with results in the west's. one other finding to come out from

that instagram study that is. to differ is that people taking selfies in moscow the least and somebody who spent most of your lifetime now in the united states i'm sure you are familiar with a pan am smile and how infectious it is how it's proud around the world why do you think the russians us so slow in picking up that kind of smile as opposed to let's say the technology is the fashion trends and everything else. so you know i was also a bit puzzled by this why didn't because for a while i thought maybe it's befalls of a software or you know because software uses mostly your new uses neural net they thought maybe it was only that in three of our guys just write california smile or they start with that every interaction with more every time or i wish him into airports i don't system will smile in person right now at a lot of russian friends people i think of it in the music was probably where there is a certain kind of greyness right in the every day for the official culture which i think still persists maybe because it's called maybe because it's

a baby crown three event so interesting question but definitely you know because i think the difference with holland is object if you know it's we're saying you don't think it's about how the software codes that it's actually about the russian people and being more cranky if you use your slogan so it's look at we're more grumpy right you know everybody move or warmest you know people and we can be optimistically digital but it's time to i want to mention it first i think it's also just more of the way people carry themselves like you know if you noticed right so you know i mean if it was small talk should people actually not used the word to be peanuts goes to range so what a different scene a serious. you know differences behavior in a fight or to be bored because we're like now in the third decade a little bit is ations you would think with every where people behave the same because we using with same software are using the same services in the real deal when to believe but if you have each year i think the local culture still bistro we people behave it's abuse brooky with versus most poor versus you know bunghole used

to be different well documented history have to take a very short break now but we'll be back in just a few moments stay tuned. with the systems to simply fulfill. my will for some period this is their. roles going to say of course the business with the most is to a couple. with. a slow slow slow slow slow motion i am.

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we are here with a drag here. by good luck going to get rid of those who are not go away who will not die quietly. real the hard work we do is the true. i don't think the democrats are much mood in the go shape with the republicans or president so i think people are going to have to acknowledge that the united states over the next couple years is going to be consumed even more so by our internal our total bickering in affairs and.

come back to worlds apart with me after my professor of computer science of the city university of new york the woman who has just before the break started talking about cultural and national differences in relation to big data and it's no longer a and a preoccupation of only social or a computer scientists many governments see big data and artificial intelligence as a new frontier in their geopolitical rivalry you may have heard that the president of this country mr putin said that whoever lost serious artificial intelligence will rule the world do you agree with that so you know as a student of disclosure she's going to just milegi i see a bit of the public obsession if i can see certain it's a logical developments it comes in waves was up today people are really into. your choice to me are exactly was he if he was helping you in the aegis of created for

example who also social supercomputers who was busy initially there were little between us and japan and before that there was also a similar obsession about television and war and also read where you of course nuclear arms right. in the feels right because we i feel as been so hyped so much you know every company has to say would be using you know if it got us if we do a lot so about the same play what is different is something real but what i think about it i think about more that as it continues develop. as opposed to radical shift because basically. it's sort of extension of statistics. is about measurements of paper because measure in nomine in so many different our fields for example the commercial when people called the museum were able to craft in that space that is typical logic of measurement of to musician which is spreading itself into so many different areas in the same direction with ai is that one simple thing which is going to me this is social not no i don't think so. you also hear people talk about. what computers can do that human brain isn't capable of

is it also true why it's worse is that is there something that only human brain can do that computer is will never be capable of. i can if you look at work on the specialist into besides in the eye i'm not by the way i'm professor of computer science amateur artist i was writing teaching digital art all my life but if you look at experts people say with this huge progress in the eye which media talks about reality is a progress only if you limited it is so in my talk which i'll do is immune hermitage i'm going to make a joke i will take two photographs of me which were taken with a few months ago were like five seconds of each hour i'm going to submit them to one of our computer vision services the top one from microsoft amazon and you'll see how the software is going to predict with my age in there with my niece it is very different that i did it you know a few days ago was office so that was you since no one so there was fifty five one

so then his particular one so the asian serial it's year the systems estimation so many mistakes so we definitely be very far from the level of going to human thinking human precision so don't worry robots are no good or we're alone will probably take over your job now and here you said yourself there is some potential there and i wonder how far will it go digital technologies and social media allow many individuals to if not redesign their lives at least to re-imagine them does it also work on national levels do you think countries may think about that perennial problems and. hopefully overcome then when the help of certain technology i think that it's probably easier to do it for smaller countries in the future good example would be the place to succeed particularly the story new which is recognized as a word leader integration of digital technology what you will for example if you screen i will countries if you was with them a few lint which i would they said they're going to publish everybody talks

a georgia line but then you go to places store near and what you see is the computer science fiction we also people trust to data to a government i think it's a bit hard to write to be the qantas. with talk to be the but before into your. was a huge difference for example right deep in russia. and how digital technologies is used her use by government how we use babies this is how we use baby people so differently if there is a will result we. let's take russia for example because if you have this country oh a long time ago you might hear now more often and it's interesting and paradoxical to some extent case because we have a still a fair way back or it's additional economy of a threat tape corruption all the other ails but when it comes to online economy it's actually pretty vibrant and i would have been say innovative in a certain services in russia much better than in many european countries. certain

government services for example online a much better than off line. am i being too hopeful here or is it something that can at least not just the country in a in the red direction no i sure your team is i'm in this was startin about three hundred years ago and love coming to russia every the months because despite bureaucracy europe that corruption resummon about russia and especially younger people which inspires me if you reason a serious rethink what i mean occurrence. we sisterly has been a continuous in the media well as big war was hundred fifty years ago so this why you are i told you before interviewer confined by us to colleagues ability believe with reading newspapers new york times. because in the way we have no reason not to believe that this is a crushing also chugger been for incredible intellectual coloe bickel political psychological break if you for fifty years ago that when it created something were omitted fusions people invest it in the southerly dissolved right and i think it

allows certain people feeling the peasantry so it isn't a complete arsenal is i'm so inspired your every time and you will let your special place as a cousin of two men from a center result as want to question those which are my best questions i could ask you my life respond to supply will you lectures the really prestigious best in places like the rest of them or a lab in the first year i can can the predict every question will be asked because everybody went to the same programs everybody read the same textbooks so the way you know people are smart but the awfully bit limits of the religion nation risks your you know people were not told this is how you should speak so sometimes must be beth questions i posed as best questions so essentially like the way it was going to destruction in the past or the executable out bridges i think often when you present culture let me also ask you a question about china because it's a very big player in the field of into artificial intelligence and if you remember

back in soviet times the propensity of a state or centralization was thought of as a major impediment to progress it made decisions much slower it was a major burden on the way to efficiently but i think china may be turning it on its had now because there are many studies now suggesting that this gun satoris centralization allows chinese companies to progress much faster when it comes to big data and that's especially intelligent because they keep that all that data in . big centralized legs that concern for privacy is much much smaller. do you think there is any cultural advantages to development or disadvantages to development of official intelligence so just as are you often go to russia and feel that inspired a heresy if you can share in there with your armchair national interest the second century. and unfortunately i think it's not so easy to have easy spanish and switch

with country size a joke if you brick a lovely performance let's say you look at a few countries whichever is which will come centralize right the france russia china religion for the results the rights of france is going to be backward technologically sometimes the us he was the most presidential police europe not the world i mean russia so his very advanced services you know. we're friends i'm going to russia will have fessed into that my form because new york it's very slow and we have china. i think with the see israel that we're all central government in china right china to create huge infrastructure projects which no other country can do so i think that. definitely not only small businesses but the government to put your wants can use technologies to reinvent themselves well at least to progress economically very very quickly i also heard you say that it's no longer about creating artificial intelligence as much as controlling and limited eliminating

it's application and traditional and that's the main of the government and government governments do regulation the dissing of when it comes to modern technology governments have both they had technological and the intellectual capacity to do that. you know i mean so out with conservative but seeing would happen like in the last presidential elections not only in years but also present there were in the way companies like ambition of the ticker and in fact played a bigger role by following millions of online users and showing them on the particle advertising which was very profiles the way you know it probably did contributed to were outcome of elections it's really big shift so a shift in credit you know we'll see something very conservative in governments perhaps have to think about ways to recreate this and i think europe is a leader. and also i will say something more article i saw today when

people talk about its official intelligence what they really mean is neural networks write your daemon that's worked or do some people across your writings and most often we don't know how to work on rights of grief is that walks us into the use of the boxes because we're more efficient so i actually feel great but i don't exactly perhaps our our government should kind of what i call outlaw this because maybe it's better to have software which is less efficient but which is more transparent so if i put our society has adopted this network which creates big boxes where we don't know what we do you know it's a it's maybe not such a cool stream do you mention cameras you know where to go let me ask you perhaps then the final question is there are people who. a very negative about congress analytical usually they are action and don't trump usually presumed that that was some malicious influence and people made an irrational choice as much as we may dislike mr trump on the personal level defend his election election was really.

such an irrational choice given what's been happening in the united states over the last couple of decades or so few but it was for us first of all if you look at the medical actions for many years relatively every time it's like fifty fifty the second thing is i think in my own guesses about yes it was companies play the role but with a much you trump is a master trauma because his own t.v. show they feel. exactly message rich americans live in the suburbs which is seeing with american the nation's coming their way and we're seeing immigrants coming and said work your harlot it's your job he was this message for so i would say probably he would win in the world community she was. the first to our harness the power of social media i mean having learned about myself and then it was a moment of us an eight so there was an eight of ability a year it was a month of us and two of him around the father of two republican said politics used to seem to clergy you know anything about what they want to say but commercially to go it was all reported in media if it was not so correct because ultimately what we

do is with millions or falzon souls but they should agencies do every day be just what the genius was to build a system which was able to scale. to that millions of people who will acknowledge the rights of a genius was infrastructural genius which if such were used is used every day to show ads so the way it was nothing radical about it if it actually was true scaly it's exactly was it being is because of consumer logic which drives internet i have to ask you about what you're saying about the claims are for russian interference there thing russia has enough capacity to influence the american political decision making on such a scale. you know one thing about politics right in contemporary world i think whenever we would never never know exactly what happened and with the thought of the world wishing that mr shooter mr started was this you know one bad guy you could go with happened right today. it's possible rightful comes to students mr chivery. and it's very hard to say that for example him attempt to come across

pensive his book started the project root basically made archive over the millions and millions of political and also shortall edits seleucus archive out with a series of high four million ads and has some ad by some progressive groups maybe you know for abortion against abortion and each other sean for two days so it's very hard to know is what you want and maybe what's also other effects of this kind of online for mutation ripping whence we exposed to millions of messages each message may be shown for a few seconds. it will be mostly all but maybe we'll know a lot well perhaps we can discuss that then our engineer in a couple of years but for now we have to live there thank you very much for sharing your insights which are so much encourage our nearest to keep this conversation going on our social media plane just off to syria the same place same time here on worlds apart.

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