they're still playing by the numbers rather than the quality of the content so don't just think about focus on the numbers the numbers of likes the number of let's add promotions don't just think that it's going to be a driving in the overall direction towards something less original of rather than more original you know we'll hold these unlikely cultural if you slip eleven years ago as i said that's exactly what kind of questions we like to talk about and often the difference and sometimes our visions turn to be wrong so ideally i would like to study with would like to measure it of course how do you measure traits each year it was billions of images of billions of ija with every hard question so only too much of a level i tend to give you but ideally i would like to check that i heard you say that your work involves a lot of steer a tie busting what are some of the. most memorable stereotypes that in your work managed to defy the one most interesting discovery or our maybe new

a few thousand which our quantitative database studies lead to is resales year words we still tend to think about culturally with this compare precautious the ripple culture in terms of periods which is a separate category as the cultural center is regressive cultural more school impressionism versus the little arts ever started lots of cultural artifacts millions and millions and using scientific methods before all that in fact was turns out is because nudity the things out a similarity to as opposed to difference so while for example it's been said one bloke was customary you why you get into periods based the racial leave no in europe and periods are in effect results will continue to be thin is art so this idea with culture is more about continue it it's about small quantities of differences there are with huge qualitative boxes we were. i think you would tell

it if you from later century which of course it was but you have not always that edmund saab one of our but also billions of images on instagram and someone said that this is something extremely trivial why would anyone concern himself with that people taking pictures of themselves what can you extrapolate from. that about human behavior in general. the first thing i want to say so we look at it but sixty million is the graham images but isn't there a look at two hundred seventy million images shared on twitter the cure for three years we also look at a deal in the arts which is the largest online in the archive a network full of professional art and what the founders would look and feel instagram is that it's all a selfish it's only pictures of stars and celebrities reality each of us social networks offices everything you'll find everything you file in a museum at the p r plus more so what we saw is incredible resume or incredible

universe of human creativity right if the styles of what i thought experiments was up we came across some fifteen year old high school students iberia those are the guys from the last three weeks i was experimenting with it in one pixel white line the border my fourth us how do you like that so this idea that it's all three will is exactly one which was questions once we started which is data but in practical sense i know that you also have a degree in experimental psychology do you think that kind of knowledge adds anything to the reservoir of our knowledge about and bangs i think it does and. to me for me personally right the best feeling about disability would be data for study of society of humans and culture is very that today we can observe the right use of human behavior it was hellish or to countries in billions of people so to me . reserve potential right to create

a new kind of science of society in humans which will generalizable same level which will recognize but i may be a false sense of humor too ations were of houses of quite a few groups not only five and ten but the way we can do it in practice you know it's a big question because a whole society a whole new research is still very much designed is that essentially relates to you know as you were five me to asians you resort to types of societies and so or so this idea of because studies humans were biologists that ability of the world we're really talking those hundred million different pieces to some extent when i was thinking about about it it struck me that researchers could never fully access that thick layer of human culture if here and now starting it's almost similar to human hearing which is limited at certain frequencies and human academic a past and analyzing capacity was also as you said limited to a fairly small sample size is now e.u. big you take a much bigger i think one of us that is involved over

a billion data points right well with two hundred seventy million the images well that's still a subtle difference actually was ever actually that we got to the society representable got the demand from twitter and with the said ok guys would you want to save the world every image which you showed to twitter location until the time was a bit about you how many would have because we have no time to code but here it into a lot of was about two hundred seventy million over a few years so that's quite a lot but that's in any case a fundamentally different vantage point does it offer anything special in terms of . being a research mouth as a recession rather is it in any way doesn't give you an venues for something something new i think of the us so first of all right before as you said you know if you making any kind of study of society or culture typically it's local it's like used sits them in separate you which is the world. eyes that what you see is what you should an ice to know it doesn't cost any more to make

a study of local rights oprah's up like and collect instagram images been shared around you know this location or read some pews work you know just a bit of effort i can collect you know if you throw possible occasions and i think you mean to be important because of being sick i'm a comparative i would see more democratic points of view because realize with no particular places unique in i think the smoke of comparative more global point of view is one which is appropriate also though historical periods i think what's interesting about it is that it's both global and local at the same time and what i wanted to add asking is how. much cultural variation planes into big data things you know all can be true about the americans and the chinese how much do they relate to the russians or let's say to present an argument for a question about self-esteem this may be a good example writes in the selfish you project which we created in two thousand and twelve was published that was a fortune we collective confute house and self is from your five five to just

around the world inventor use a computer software to measure. the size of a head the right people are looking you know i was smiling where emotions etc i'm actually followed with a bit of addition left for example in the proportion of self has been shared between to mill male. if any place all the places male she males are showing more self-esteem men are somehow shy but the biggest number was in russia it was actual most five times what you feel selfish from manila versus a billion in new york was only one point five so you will be level of self is found lots and lots of elation why it is you know the study doesn't us through study kind of finds and in fact which now we have to explain so it gives us new puzzles to do you have any in taste since about us because you do have a flashlight and all society yes i don't spend enough time with russia right so you know by density in the russian man is too little mystery to me. but i think one thing is going though with russia at seventy two culture and it's a very fashion obsessed culture and to me russia reminds me

a lot of asia rock self-effacing was to graham it's completely part of everyday life in a way in the most wrong way with was up in the west. one other finding to come out from that instagram study that is. do you differ is that people taking selfies in moscow the least and somebody who spent most of your lifetime now in the united states i'm sure you are familiar with a pan am smile and how infectious it is how it's proud around the world why do you think the russians are so slow and picking up that kind of smile as opposed to let's say the technology is the fashion trends and everything else. so you know i was also a bit puzzled by this why didn't because for a while i thought maybe it's befalls of a software or you know because of a software uses machine or new uses neural net they thought maybe it was only that in three of our guys just right before you smile or just started to every interaction with more every time where i was shimmy to airports i don't see a single smiling person right now at

a lot of rational friends people i think of it in the music with smile probably where there is a certain kind of greyness right in the every day for the official culture which i think still persists maybe because it's called maybe because it's a baby crown three you know it's so interesting question but definitely you know because i think the difference which is objectify if you know it's we're saying you don't think it's about how the software codes that it's actually about the russian people and being more slowly and so it's look if we're more grumpy right you have a video movie warmest you know people and we can be optimistically digital but it takes time to i want to mention that first i think it's also just more of what people carry themselves like you know if you noticed right so you know i mean if it was small talk should people actually not used the word to be peanuts goes three inch so what a different scene a serious. change you know differences behavior and i find it to be boards because we look now in the third decade of a bill is ations you would think with every where people behave the same because

we're using with same software or using the same services they will dream of when to believe but if you have it you i think the local culture still distro we people behave it's a buse brooky with versus most core versus you know bunghole used to be different well not so many of us are have to take a very short break now but we'll be back in just a few moments stay tuned. blushed and then she chewed the cheek a total more than the beach she cut a hole close to each seam you'll be set it's not that it seems it's a shot since that only shooting against. them into.

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welcome back to worlds apart with laughter when the much professor computer science of the city of our stephanie york the woman who has just before the break we started talking about cultural and national differences and relations and big data and it's no wonder at and a preoccupation of only social or a computer scientists many governments see big data and artificial intelligence as a new frontier in their geopolitical rivalry you may have heard that the president of this country mr putin sad that whoever lost serious artificial intelligence will rule the world do you agree with that so you know as a student of just gorgeous you could have just a little edgier i see a bit of a public obsession if i can say the right of certain your political developments because a wave was up today people are really into. your cio cheney are exactly was he was helping you in the aegis of who it is for example who also obsessed with

supercomputers who was busy initial it will live between us and japan and before that there was also a similar obsession about television and war and also read where you of course nuclear arms rights. and the shias are right because we i feel as been so hyped so much you know every company has to say would be using the goddess if we do a lot so but in the same play what is different is something real but what i think about it i think about more that as it continues development as opposed to radical shift because basically. it's sort of extension of statistics. is about measurements affective because measure you know in so many different i would fields for example to measure when people called the museum we will be corrupt. and it's just that just because the logic of measurement of the musician which is spreading itself into so many different areas in the same direction with ai is that one single thing which is good to me conscious of social not no i don't think so. you also hear people talk about. what computers can do that human brain isn't

capable of is it also true why it's worse is there is there something that only human brain can do that computer is will never be capable of i can if you look at work on the specialist into besides in the eye i'm not by the way i'm professor of computer science amateur artist i was writing teaching digital art all my life but if you look at experts people say with this huge progress in the eye which media talks about the reality is a progress only if you limited it is so in my talk which i'll do is immune i'm pretty much i'm going to make a joke i will take two photographs of me which were taken with a few months ago were like five seconds of each hour i'm going to submit them to one of our computer vision services the top one from microsoft amazon and you'll see how the software is going to predict with my age in there with my a few stitches very different that i did you know a few days ago was office so that was you since no one so there was fifty five one so then his particular one so the asian serial it's year systems are still missing

so many mistakes so we definitely be very far from the level of going to human thinking human precision so don't worry we're robots are no good for we're all probably take over your job now and here you said yourself there is some potential there and i wonder how far will it go digital technologies and social media allow many individuals to if not redesign their lives at least to re-imagine them does it also work on national levels do you think countries may think about that perennial problems and. hopefully overcome that when the help of certain technology is a huge threat it's probably easier to do it for a smaller compass and if you have a good example would be me please aslaksen particularly the store near which is recognized as a world leader integration of digital technology what you will for example if you ask me my real contraception was with them a few lindt which i would they said they're going to publish everybody talks

a georgia line but then you go to places store near and what you see is the computer science fiction we also people trust in world data through a government i think it's a bit hard to write to be the countries. with talk to be the but before into your. was a huge difference for example in russia. and how digital technologies is used her use by government how we use babies this is how we use baby the people so differently if there is a will resolve we. let's take russia for example because if you have this country oh a long time ago you might hear now more often and it's interesting and paradoxical to some extent case because we have a still a fair way back or it's additional economy of a threat tape corruption all the other ails but when it comes to online economy it's actually pretty vibrant and i would have been say innovative in a certain services in russia much better than in many european countries. certain government services for example online

a much better than off line. am i being too hopeful here or is it something that can at least not just the country in a in the red direction no i assure you of the museum invest was startin about three hundred years ago and low income into russia every the months because despite bureaucracy europe that corruption resummon about russia and especially younger people which inspires me i think reason is ris refute what i mean occurrence. reese history has been a continuous in the media career well as big war was hundred years ago so first why are you i told you before interviewer confined by us to colleagues ability believe with reading newspapers new york times. because in the way we have no reason not to believe that this was a crushing also chugger been for incredible intellectual coloe bickel political psychological break if if if years ago that unit created something were well if you chanst people invest it in the southerly dissolved right and if you get allow

certain people within the peasantry so reason to come to russia reasoned so inspired your every time and you will lecture special places a cousin or two men from a center result as want to question those which are my best questions i could ask you my life respond to supply will you lectures the very prestigious western places like the rest of them or a lab in the first year i can come to predict every question you ask because everybody went to the same program sort of where you read the same textbooks so the way you know people are smart but the awfully bit limits of the religion nation risks your you know people were not told this is how you should speak so sometimes must be better questions i posed as best questions so essentially like the way it was going to destruction in the past redux secure loud grief i think often when dependent culture let me also ask you a question about china because it's a very big player in the field of into artificial intelligence and if you remember

back in soviet times the propensity of a state or centralization was thought of as a major impediment to progress it made decisions much slower it was a major burden on the way to official sea but i think china may be turning it on its had now because there are many studies now are suggesting that this gun satoris centralization allows chinese companies to progress much faster when it comes to big data an artificial intelligence because they keep that all that data in. big centralized legs that concern for privacy is much much smaller. do you think there is any cultural advantages to new development or disadvantages to development of official intelligence so just as are you often go to russia and feel that inspired a heresy shouldn't shine their way that i've been shown they showed the second century. and unfortunately i think it's not so easy to have easy as polish and

switch with country sized joke if you brick a lovely performance let's see a look at a few countries whichever is which will come centralize right the france russia china religiously results rights of france is going to be backward technologically sometimes we were a few it was most presidential police europe not the world i mean russia has or has very advanced services you know or. my friends i'm going to russia will have fessed into that my form because new york it's very slow and we have china. i think with the c. israel that were all of central government in china right china to create huge infrastructure projects which no other country can do so i think that. differently not only small businesses but the government to put your wants can use technologies to reinvent themselves but at least to progress economically very quickly i also heard you say it's no longer about creating artificial intelligence as much as

controlling and limited eliminating it's application and traditional and that's the demeanor of the government and government governments do regulation the dissing and when it comes to modern technology governments have both they had technological and the intellectual capacity to do that. you know i miss out with conservative but seeing would happen like in the last presidential elections not only in years but also present there were in the way companies like ambition of the ticker and infect played a bigger role by following millions of users and showing them on the particle advertising which was very profiles the way it probably did contributed to were outcome of elections it's really big shift so a shift in credit you know we'll see something very conservative in government's behalf have to think about ways to recreate this and i think europe is really there . and also i will say something more article i saw today when people talk about

its official intelligence would be really mean is neural networks right you train with network to do some pillock with your writings and most often we don't know how to work your rights of grief is that walks us into the use of the boxes because when washrooms so i actually feel great paradox perhaps our our government should kind of what i called outlaw this because maybe it's better to have software which is less efficient but which is more transparent so if i put our society has adopted this network which creates big boxes where we don't know what we do you know it's a it's maybe not such a cool stream do you mention cameras now and again let me ask you perhaps then the final question is there are people who. a very negative about congress analytically usually at the election of the one trump usually presumed that that was some malicious influence and people made an irrational choice as much as we may dislike mr trump on a personal level defend his election election was really. such an irrational choice

given what's been happening in the united states over the last couple of decades or so few believe was for us first of all if you look at the medical actions for many years relatively every time it's like fifty fifty the second thing is i think in my own guesses about yes it was companies play the role but with a much you trump is a master trauma because his own t.v. show that if you hear the words exactly message which americans live in the suburbs which are seeing with america the nation is coming their way and we're seeing immigrants coming and said work your harlot it's your job he was this message sir so i would say probably he would when it was going to lose he was. the first to our harness the power of social media i mean having learned about myself and then it was a moment of us an eight so fascinate of ability a year it was a month of us and two of him around the father of two republican said well it actually used to seem to floyd you you know anything about what i want to say but commercially to go it was all reported in media if it was not so correct because what timothy what we do is with millions will files and souls but they should

agencies do every day be just what the genius was to build a system which was able to scale. to let millions of people who will acknowledge the rights of a genius was infrastructural genius which if you search for used is used every day to show ads so the way it was nothing radical about it if a short series created it's exactly was it being is because of consumer logic which drives internet i have to ask you about what a thing about the claims of russian into surrender thing russia has enough capacity to influence the american political decision making on such a scale. you know one thing about politics right in contemporary world i think whenever we would never never know exactly what happened and with the thought of the world before mr chips or mr stoddard was miss you know one bad guy you can go with happened right today. it's possible right folk on to students mr chavez. and it's very hard to say that for example him attempt to have more transparency his

book started the project root basically made the archive for the millions and millions of political in those social szell ads seleucus archival with a so with a high four million ads it was some ad by some progress of group maybe you know for abortion against abortion and each other sean for two days so it's very hard to know is what you want and maybe that's also why the effects of this kind of on live from mutation ripping with the exposed to millions of messages each message may be shown for a few seconds. it will be most of all but maybe we'll know a little while perhaps we can discuss that in our in here in a couple of years but for now we have to live there thank you very much for sharing your interest so much encourage our nearest to keep this conversation going in our social media. place same time here on worlds apart.

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