tv Documentary RT November 19, 2018 12:30am-1:01am EST
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all. right and then he says while those twenty three. fortune our way or direction i want to go out and i and everything. fun job was. kind of slow and and i went to it's more of a seasonal type of thing. so i looked to supplement my income a little bit and i made a bad some bad decisions and also got out fairly ate it with our contacts little bit. some people myself for
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a day other. and. as far was at that time just trying to figure things out. at age forty three more months and has spent twenty one years of his life behind bars. in one nine hundred ninety six he's convicted of murder and sentenced to fifty years in prison at the time he's making a living by selling drugs in an apartment building in detroit. marc is accused of killing christina brown one of his young clients on the night of the nineteenth of january one nine hundred ninety six. however on the night of the murder lamar was far from the scene of the crime.
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he was at home with his six year old daughter. or even remember waking up watching cartoons with my daughter saturday morning she woke me up at nine and i was like mom we're watching cartoons on the t.v. and i'm on to where my daughter saturday morning and. that's like i want to. you know perhaps the last day i was out. that saturday morning monson is the first to arrive at the scene he finds the apartment in a state of chaos and then he sees the young christina brown lying motionless on the floor on january twentieth one thousand nine hundred six lamar went for his afternoon shift to the apartment and he found the body of christina brown he knew her as crystal. he thought she was seventeen years old it was a young tall young woman who cried herself
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a seventeen after she was twelve and she was another one of the dealers who dealt out of that apartment and what he found was this horrific bloody crime scene. were. she was in a state of needed medical attention. or if it were. but she was a. she was away from me and trying to say my name and i was told the nurse. just hold on i want to get you know. i'm going to be long. and frantically on the run and banging on our live doors and that apartment for a call the police call him as the police came and lamar spoke to the police and the police immediately decided that he was there a suspect and so on that day very day he was arrested. we have
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a police report where the detective basically says on the same day of the killing we can close this case if we can just get our minds and to confess. i got a phone call. telling me that my son had been arrested for killing a young lady. i know that could never never never be possible from the training that he had had from the time he was born into twenty two years when they took him away from me i was devastated i was. in i couldn't sleep i walked the floor wondering what had happened why it happened and where would they choose. kristina brown dies
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a few hours later in hospital. the officers of the detroit police force take more monson to the station and begin to question her. questions like she was my girlfriend and she was my girlfriend she's more like the little sister of a bunch. we live in there i never live there in the one me i'm there. just stuff like. questioning was core from a witness to suspect. part of the interview process is you're supposed to use what recalls the behavioral analysis interview. and in that if you use these techniques it's like you know you're watching a person's body language or you're watching the way that they say something or the way that the answer your questions there's also a series of seventeen questions that we teach is that you can ask the person and
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you know based is that based on your answers on their answers and based on your observations you will be able to tell whether or not they're being deceptive or not they're guilty with over eighty percent accuracy. verify judgment i'm very it's like being a human lie detector test and the problem with that is really read itself the read people admit that it's not based on any science whatsoever just based on their own observations the real science says it's baloney it doesn't work. and it when they've done experiments with it they pretty much show that the accuracy is like flipping a coin it's fifty fifty. the read into. technique makes its debut in the sixty's it is revolutionary for police stations. john reed a police officer from chicago proposes
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a new and less brutal approach to interrogation. i think john reed was a reformer in many ways you have to understand that when reid came to prominence. the method that was used widely throughout the united states was what's called the third degree police officers were feeding suspects into confessing to crimes that they did or didn't commit. they were tuning them up they were using the rubber o. they were grilling them for hour after hour after hour and read to his credit knew that that was a way that was fraught with danger in that it might get false or unreliable concessions the problem is that he and. is today have never come to grips with the fact that psychological interrogation tactics can also
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produce false confessions. i've been saying the numbers mean something they matter the u.s. is over twenty trillion dollars in debt more than ten thousand dollars fine tempi each day. eighty five percent of global will be along to the ultra rich eight point six percent market saw thirty percent just last year some with four hundred to five hundred three per second per second and fifth point rose to twenty thousand dollars . china is building a two point one billion dollar a i industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only numbers you need
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to remember is one one does not show you can afford to miss the one and only. the dollar by dollar as what i was doing. when we got garrett over here we carried the music with us. we are here we were dragged here. by good luck going to get rid of those who are not go away who will not die quietly. real the heart of what we do is the truth.
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make us manufacture consent instant to the public well. when the ruling class is to protect themselves. when the final merry go round lifts only the one percent. we can all middle of the room sick. in the real news room. i don't think the democrats are much closer to negotiate with the republicans or president so i think people are going to have to acknowledge that the united states over the next couple years is going to be consumed even more so by our internal sartorial bickering in affairs.
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last sunday. morning the beach he could hold most troops seem you'll be set it's. not only shifting against. him into. the utility bills you know he said he included a cliche. he is a bit of my school but i'm going to have to be scared to show. for it but you can be shown these. guinea-bissau through the same screen you just tell them to be calm cool and calm down.
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the mummy of what you called the british mr bush time and then lucy of the school. the first problem is they have this analysis by which they tell their trainees that you can tell when someone's lying by the tone in their voice or by their posture or whether they sit rigid in their chair or relaxed whether they look at you and give you i contact or look away or look down whether they fold their arms fold their legs look up look left look right you name it it's a cue and the retreat interrogator. has
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a whole list of body language behaviors and verbal behaviors suspects says i don't know that's considered deceptive if a suspects says oh man i swear to god i had nothing to do with this appeals to religiosity are considered deceptive behavior they lead their trainees to believe that they are lie detectors but they are human lie detector and once you make that judgment don't turn back move on to interrogation. when i first entered into the vision you had a lot of officers that's what they were saying and you did it your cue there who you know it was bombard me with that as i'm in a tara geisha. my mind was. all over the place just devastated by what i've seen what was going on and then to get here and now you're
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trying to suggest that i committed the crime. the more monson's interrogation continues through the night as the hours go by the questions progressively turn into accusations so dros she sold drugs for you. you killed her she was your girlfriend and just creating a scenario that they wanted on despite what i was attempting to relate to far as what i'm. so i would go back and forth and back and forth and that interrogation lasted maybe. four hours because it. is important issue you seldom will find a false confession take it in an hour seldom will you find that in two hours when you look at false confession cases twelve fifteen sixteen eighteen twenty hours can
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be broken down at some point the average person does what an average rational person does they conclude that i need to get out of this situation desperate they hate it here among comfortable i'm stressed and the more i deny it the more they call me a liar and i just can't get out this way so they're looking for a way out of a bad situation. tired . confused. as from the over which. taken to. the floor locker at the time. and there it was star. kingsley k. rist. came believe was gone oh. aren't you just can't
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imagine. americans describe. the process of interrogation is designed to put people in just that frame of mind make the most comfortable make them want to get out and don't take no for an answer don't accept their denials. during most interrogations the suspect is not going to just sit there and listen to you while you develop your theme they're going to try to deny any involvement whatsoever but that should be expected many guilty people introduce their denials with permission phrases such as can i say one thing which is just listen to me but sir if i can only explain when the interrogator hears those phrases it's important to interject yourself and stop the person from continuing because you let him talk they'll say the words i didn't do it and the more often
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a person says they didn't do it the more difficult it becomes for us to get a confession. if you look at any interrogation out there what you'll see is threat promise threat promise threat lie a lie a lie and it's back to back it's over and over and over and over and it's cutting the person off and like us it is narrowing your options and giving you this perception that oh my god i am facing this guy knows the things that i'm. guilty he has all the evidence i know that is bogus these witnesses didn't see me but they're lying on me and he's telling me that the only way that i can get a break from this is by telling him what he wants to hear. there so stressed and they have to do with how long they've been there may have to
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do with the fact that it's late at night they've been accused and called a liar they've threatened promises of the maid whatever it is they get to a breaking point where they decide that it's in their best interest to confess at this moment it's in my better interest to confess them to continue denial. lamar monson sees that he is about to be caught in a trap police detective joan going places a file on the table. of the broader her office. and. she said there is shared a pile of files on my desk and she mentioned where you noticed she was make a reference to those files being evidence against you against me and i'm like. ok. i don't know what that is book i haven't done
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anything and i don't know why i'm down here and i want to go basically. what was inside of this fight. for anything. lamar monson tries to ignore her but american police officers have the right to lie to a suspect lying is a normal part of the process used to put suspects under pressure. i can lie. about the evidence i can count i think i absolutely the courts allow me to live up to a point you know there's certain laws that are so outrageous that records are going to let it but i can tell you all kinds of lies i can tell you that we have three or four we have four witnesses who say that they saw you take the money and you're going. oftentimes it will come in with a. file folder filled with papers doesn't matter what's in that file folder it
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could be take out menus from a restaurant ok and oftentimes there will be clipped on the top of that aisle folder a d.v.d. ok and police officers will tell the suspect that there was a camera across the street that was filming the area where the crime occurred and that their images on the d.v.d. so there's technological evidence the police officers sometimes use other times they'll claim that they've had they found for your prints or blood evidence or d.n.a. evidence imagine a suspect in an interrogation and they're there for again some period of time that is uncomfortable and the police now are lying about the evidence that's suspect may well know full well that he didn't do anything wrong but he's starting to feel trapped and overwhelmed by this presentation of incriminating evidence thinking i
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didn't do this but they're claiming they've got evidence and whether this is. well set up or what i've got to find a better way out anybody who's been the victim of a high pressure sales tactics knows what this feels like anybody who says that they would never ever confess to a crime and they didn't do. happen been under this sort of pressure. these tactics are relentless for lamar months some time seems to stand still the police detective offers him what appears to be a way out. she was saying that she believed that i did do it and this she was willing to help me but i had to help her cope. so. began to give me a scenario. self-defense. she suggested or it probably
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helped my situation and then. she said if i would cooperate send a statement that i would be home by that time the next day. over a series of other tech. with the interrogator does he narrow down for the suspect. two choices two paths oath of them involve the suspect admitting their guilt but one paints the suspect as an evil person a monster a cold blooded remorseless killer and the other one provides an excuse for the suspect for why they committed the crime maybe it was self defense maybe it was an impulsive act not a deliberate act not a premeditated act and over time you know with increasing pressure on the suspect. many suspects will accept the path of
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least resistance. and accept a less atheists explanation for why they can be taught to cry. during the theme we offer to the suspect psychological justification for the mission of the crime we don't legally justify it we offer him a moral excuse that will minimize or justify in his own mind committing the crime and this should be done in a monologue format. it comes to the point where i'm doing this over and over and i start to see you getting to checked it and i get to the point where i think i need to come in with the final question my job my goal of the interrogation is to limit your options and to give you the at least a temporary perception that your only option is to confess to this crime.
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that's the best route for you to take. the bull process the words when we have a conversation we don't process literally what is said we process between the lines we process not what is said but what is implied when an interrogator says i think you're a good person i don't think you meant to do this i think it was an accident and by the way i would have done the same thing here thinking oh this is no big deal i can confess and that's my easy way out here. and that's the point at which people can fast. i was out of it in their form of just ready to whatever you want me to do maybe disarm sinusoid it in my mind. turning it would be able to. the what's necessary to sort it out was innocent and i
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didn't commit this crime because i didn't commit the crime. on the third. of january one thousand nine hundred ninety six at six o two am after ten hours of interrogation detective ago in obtains a single signature from lamar monson in this document he explains that he involuntarily stabbed christina brown detective going and was subsequently removed from the homicide unit and later terminated from the detroit police and the reason she was removed from the homicide unit was because she was accused of fabricating confessions in other words tricking people into signing false confessions. i don't think the democrats are much closer to negotiate with the republicans or president so i think people are going to have to acknowledge that the united states over the next couple years is going to be consumed even more so by are internal our
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i didn't think the numbers mean for the. matter you have over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten white collar crimes have to be. eighty five percent of global wealth you want to the ultra rich with six percent market saw thirty percent from last year some with four hundred to five hundred three per second per second and when rose to twenty thousand dollars. china is building a two point one billion dollar a i industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only number you need to remember is one one business shows you can't afford to miss the one and only boom but. it's hard to imagine the decades after the war a nazi don't tell was still active rich in the nineteen seventies crittle had as the chair of its board a man convicted of mass murder and slavery at ash was
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a german company develops a little mite a drug that was promoted as completely safe even during pregnancy it turned out to have terrible side effects what has happened to my baby is anything but. you know she said she's just got choked up minix a little mind victims have to this day received no compensation they never apologized for the suffering that. not only want the money i want the revenge. pics or it didn't happen this is the phrase that has become a mantra for many people as more and more people get involved in visualizing the world around them is the story we tell ourselves about ourselves changing. pranking gave americans
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a lot of job opportunities i needed to come up here to make some money back. make twenty five thousand dollars as a teacher or i could make fifty thousand dollars a year girl in trucks or chose to drive trucks people who rush to a small town in north dakota was among the employment rate of zero percent is like a gold rush it is very very similar to a gold rush but this beautiful story ended with pollution and devastation a lot of people have left here i don't know too many people here anymore just slowed down too much they lost jobs that laid off the american dream is changing that's not what it used to be. and it's a tough reality you don't. subscribe
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