only accept or deny. she said therefore would. say i stated that i will be all about that the next day there's a culture on accountability that police officers know that they can engage in misconduct that has nothing to do with all the crowd. below and welcome to cross talk or all things considered i'm peter lavelle brags that and high drama the saga continues also the cia says it has high confidence they know who killed shogi and is it high noon for julian assange.

cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow marks he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have dimitri bobbitt she's a political analyst with sputnik international and we have glenn decent he is a professor at the higher school of economics as well as author of the decay of western civilization and resurgence of russia our german cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it let's first go to brags that. it's everything is in flux right now we have a number of resignations we have the tory party that seems to be in chaos we will know more as the week progresses here but mark it seems to me and you know i'm i didn't read all five hundred plus pages here but what i did glean from it is that it appears mayes. playin is not a code it's still in but not completely out of the european union this is not what

the people voted for what was your read. reading the full five hundred pages either myself or do you draw your conclusions from the fact that her own brags it's secretary has resided in this is that her team is falling apart her team is in revolt her party is in revolt the other party you know the labor doesn't seem involved at all under jeremy corbin's leadership they're perfectly willing to see may's government go down in flames at this point and i don't blame them but at the same time she's sticking to her guns we'll see how this story develops right here but it's not i mean i think the most important point here is it here is that this is not what the electorate voted for it is a appears to be a halfway measure may has actually indicated. actually that in her defense of her plan to leave the european union. this is almost two years of negotiations

tourism is always been quite explicit the brics it means brics it entails living the customs union. but the plan doesn't know the way it stands now that might stay in the customs union in perpetuity the second is no jurisdiction over britain and that has also been accepted that they will have so the two main aspects which has actually been saying that these are two red lines both of them she has given him so it's quite an extraordinary position and i don't think that it is unfair to say that this would make almost britain a colony of the e.u. and the you have to see the unity she's been able to bring though because now the brics a terrorist also want to leave britain there is such a thing would be better to stay in the e.u. than this deal and people who want to remain there essentially saying now well many of them are saying we will be willing to crush out of the e.u. without any deal than this because this is. worst of all worlds and essentially everyone is coming against her and that is. if it's

a halfway measure here i mean we get off it's a new colony without representing exactly what i mean because basically i mean i know that on like immigration everyone it's very clear in this document here but it seems that they will still be in in the customs union with the european union without any say whatsoever but being in the european union they have leverage now of the most important element the economy they're being they're giving away to brussels well it solves a lot of taxation without representation but the question is did the british or the citizens of the country did they have you seen the first place i mean the e.u. made it very clear that they will make it as painful for britain as possible so that they will teach a lesson to us don't leave the union it's going to be costly but it's in the end and it's going to backfire because the e.u. all regular looks like a call horse called horse which is permanently at war at war in libya at the war in

in yugoslavia it would in other places and now people who find out that once you're in that cohort there's no way you get you know get out where is democracy stand in all of this because i keep going back to the vote this is what the the electorate wanted mark is that because people are going to be questioning this week i mean what's the point of voting if you do if the of the ruling class doesn't follow through that part of it of course is the problem that when people voted they weren't there were no deal for them to vote on it was clear david cameron never intended to call the vote for it to succeed so that the tory party had no plan for it breaks it because they didn't want it and it was the insurgents the backbenchers right and you know the euro skep. like for asure who lead the voice of the people in this but there has never been a plan put forward people voted for brags that there was nearly nobody knows what

that meant of course now that is going to now be used as a excuse i believe for bowling breaks it to begin with because this is this was this maze play all along i think this is this is there might be a degree of intentionality here to have the whole mess. down in flames so badly that then there is an excuse to shift a second vote to parliament or a second i don't know if it would be fifty percent of the electorate but it would be a good chunk of the electorate would find that to be of betrayal and i think they will listen to us to explain how such a horrible deal could come in either they're just they're incompetent or second if . they wanted us i could you could start but there is no doubt that the second on the side of not only david cameron didn't want breaks it's like threesome a was

running on remaining in the e.u. and they made her essentially in charge of bringing the u.k. out of the e.u. so there's been a lot of secrecy during these negotiations and wants to put forward this deal she made the threat to censure saying this isn't go through that might not be a bricks at all so this is quite astonishing after saying for two years brics it means that's what's going on right now is that on the twenty fifth of november there is some kind of signing ceremony where this is going to happen with the e.u. but it seems to deal with that the plan isn't complete yet ok i mean this will be very interesting to see what is signed if it signed at all then the public will be told what the british prime minister actually signed up to the letter to their recent deadline to ease and we promised that i guess march they're going to write that the date of december and hold they do they will. the alter with the new but i'm not sure about that anymore they might be i mean to me briggs that means briggs

does briggs. will be out of the e.u. but will they be out of the look how these big government current over you know it's a whip the euro official sure to their nations which are not compliant. to the former ultra liberal prime minister who is now the chairman of the european union he recently said in an interview with a polish newspaper to go to the polish media paula may fall out of the just like the u.k. we inadvertently a fellow of energy going to be a disaster and you can see his strategy he wants to go back to politics and be looked at the president so his message is if you want one thing in trouble if you don't want the same also that the u.k. is going through void for me because i am the one. that will not cost is this of it's basically it's. going to feel among us fear mongering or it's clear that

breaks it means breaks it but what does break mean and what does mean that's i mean i mean this is the absurdity we're in here right now i do agree i agree this is a measure of incompetence but i also the agree that there is a measure of intentionality and we could call it incompetent intentionality behind what about what about this because this is my gut feeling here is that interest in me is going to keep the tories together even after these resignations because behind closed doors are saying do you want your me to be next prime minister this is the lead bridge she has right now ok because the many people particularly the deep state because of jeremy's foreign policy attitudes they do not want to see him as prime minister in there wanted to say that you have to this perfect storm. what bragg's it could only happen while jeremy corbyn is leading the labor party

this is why new labor in the u.k. lead the media even that the supposedly leftwing guardian have been so desperate to overthrow him because he regards the people's vote on brags that as the democracy the people have spoken any other labor leader any new labor leader would have provided a revolt against a referendum shifted the vote the parliament called for a second referendum but they can't do that with jeremy corey because he's the threat on the other side of may's government falls there is the threat that threat of all threats that the specter of haunting europe that is corban would be elected and that's a perfect storm for exactly i think fortunately the british media doesn't have one and be for jeremy corbyn becoming the prime minister just like that american you are right because they didn't have plenty of room for donald trump he was lord supposed to weigh in and the people who vote for this referendum you know if tony

blair was in charge of the labor party they will come for all involved saying that basketball deplorable vote and so what you know that was the message from the american that lead to the american people of the american people elected from eurobasket bill deplorable are we going to listen to what you want to see you know what i'm going to listen to left wing the floor is actually i think i think other than what might happen is because now they're going to have this as i should be the e.u. . except they won't have a new voting rights i think if there's upside to being a little bit pregnant. again he said but i think that's if that's what happens i think there'll be a strong incentive to essentially put it to british people listen they want to at least this is what breaks it means it means everything's the same except they don't have a say or do want to join and so used to typical e.u. strategy does have this which has many elections as you need to get your result this is the game they played all the time. this is that you format this every every for a friend i'm a vote that doesn't go there would have to do it over again of course is

a british decision but the kind of close on this and the system of voting to get the right answer i believe they call that a democracy in the e.u. if something goes back to my original question what is the state of democracy finish up with if you remember the. vote or referendums on the constitution for europe the british and us or the french and the dutch they voted no so essentially rich and irish in the relabeled of us being. living in this community and then they didn't need to have the baltimore city just pushed it through except irish or did i hope that we're going to go to a break here after that break we'll continue our discussion on some real news staying with our. selves seemed wrong. but all wrong just don't call. me we'll

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us regarding the shoki affair. the cia has come out with a. statement high confidence that it goes all the way to the top in saudi arabia and donald trump can kind of living in denial i think that's a good way of looking at it here and then we have i don't know if you gentlemen saw it i saw it a few hours ago someone placed on facebook a video of someone being hacked to death i don't know if it was authentic if it was authentic enough that i thought it was a real person being hacked to death and then facebook took it down the only reason why i mention this is because only everyone would allow that to be released to the media if in fact what i saw was authentic i'm not saying it was because i don't know but a lot of things in play here are well i mean. saudi arabia is

a terrorist spawning murderous absolute monarchy but as donald trump said they are are good are very good ally they're very good for our economy lots of jobs lots of jobs right there that is apparently isn't true i'm glad that you mention that market i want to i want to get a shout out here for the american conservative. rand paul has been talking about saudi arabia a fascinating article here saudi arabia is number one spreading terror. i suggest everyone take a look at that as a terror not good for jobs it's a good first term to the military industrial complex but is this now you have the state department is not. definitive as the cia is here and then the president trump is a skill vacillating here right now and we all know there are a number of sanctions being imposed here but this is a turning into more of an embarrassment here and this seems wrong in the united

states on the same page here if if this. but if this is. this is that is ok it is a nickname. if the cia is saying how we know about this new about this. it's not even ordered if you compare the two of the president or trying to make excuses for saudi arabia i think we're getting very different signals and again ron paul is . always. the most principled person to have over there his spine is his principles by saying that you know saudi arabia is not if it is the greatest sponsor of terrorism iraq which is your position that we're in the lead you around here because i think this is what it's all about we have we could do separate program on the political changes going on in israel you know this government i

think now he's he's prime minister acting foreign minister in acting defense ministers and he's got a lot on his plate right here and then we have the situation with saudi arabia i think the reason why trump is continuing to support the crown prince because he has some grand strategy asked mike pompei oh and it's all about iran and in the two key players in this plan is predicated on israel and saudi. and both of them are not in the best of shape right now i mean the story with series repeating itself. the european media and by the american media that are so it was just so murderous you know he kills his own people but when terrorist acts started to be committed in europe they never even remotely suspected the us out for some reason they suspected the people who were opposed to us and they suspect of the islamic state are these were mr going to be supported by the west in syria now the same story we've heard about iran being the chief sponsor we don't have a shame so warm and there was not

a single peace but here we kind of soldier a beer which is a now way which is of course not a sponsor of terrorism and then the q. . and then the q. wants of people in yemen and then the q. basically fifteen out of nineteen terrorists who did their nine eleven terrorist acts fifteen out of one thousand were from saudi arabia and how can you explain all of this you know the official story you know what i can explain money lots of money being pumped in and probably up to p.r. you need to. realize the official story that we have from saudi arabia you know the chief prosecutor said that he indicted the eleven people on the shore gizmodo and demand the death penalty for the crown prince was he was head of the new committee to discuss to investigate this myself himself believe me if he didn't demand death penalty for five of them he would be the one more of what's to get it done if you could you've mentioned before on this program the cia would like to see someone

else exactly this is the story here i mean i'm sure it comes as no shock to any of our viewers at least that saudi arabia is a murderous obvious theocracy right that kills its own people i mean that's that's a fact that anyone is surprised by this is a testament to the media and marching tends to bangkok. the moral bankruptcy but the real story is here is why did the cia leak this in obvious contradiction to exactly what the white house is saying right because the cia obviously has very important interests with saudi arabia i mean but by their own words they called mohammed bin so i mean in the city now and spit that he was responsible for this but he's a good technocrat. ok he's but he's volatile and arrogant mark i think i think we can agree that you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still

a big he goes from zero to sixty doesn't seem to understand that there's things you . really don't think this this or get this language talking about he doesn't seem to understand there's things you can't do it's coming from the organization that under obama was given an assassination of czar and was is responsible for the extrajudicial extraterritorial assassination of thousands around the world by their flying murder machines this is a i believe that they're trying to make a point despite their contra stations to the to the contrary that his ascension as king is still taken for granted that they want mohammed bin i am who is long so when it is it keeps it keeps in a box here and yet also targets ok i don't want to switch gears here another important story here in the intercept glenn greenwald again hits the ball out of the park here on the julian assange story as the as the obama do you concluded

prosecution of julian assange for publishing documents poses grave threats to press freedom. that's absolutely correct the obama administration pulled back on indicting by the way there is reports that in a sign a sealed indictment has been made against. that's widely reported we don't have much more. evidence than that but what is absolutely true is that if the obama administration had gone through with the prosecution of joiners knowledge they would have to prosecute the new york times the washington post the wall street journal i could go on and on now they're finding a different way around it and i think it has a lot to do with brushy gate as well because the this is what i presume they're going to go after recess which is is. it's his involvement alleged involvement in leaking the e-mails john podesta e-mails and more things i think that's one of the reasons why i want to do this it makes the republicans and the

democrats happy at the same time. here that's what makes quite extraordinary because if you look back at the bush presidency he became a little bit of a darling for the democrats exposed a lot of the crimes of. of a bush so iraq or the conduct there and i think the. other darling but let's just say they. said i love we kill leaks of the same reason during the campaign but then we could. expose clinton and the d.n.c. was rigging the primary. because of this promotion rush last election blame the blame for not being president so now especially the democrats turned on him as well which is interesting because we see all this talk about it of protecting journalism this is it seems to be very skin deep only because of the if. it doesn't serve their interest that they really just throw the journalists there for a given they're far more concerned about the fate of crybaby jim acosta than they

are against we guarding julian assange go figure trump. and edward snowden deserve death penalty and they're just not. going to gauge the freedom of joy that is there is not in or death penalty for these people and i think jim acosta jim acosta for all now do all the way out. for all the law when you want to ask a question that is a crime against the press right and the point is that every time he says something there and he cracks up to be right he has been saying that there was the sealed indictment against him he has been saying it for years and for years they. denied it and now we see. that it was true and it popped up then you know you know mark you know this was a few months ago i was in this calendar year the kollywood came out with their film the post and celebrating the washington post when it came to the pentagon papers in

one thousand nine hundred ninety one. and. ellsberg wellsburg he was the enemy of the nixon administration but the post in other journalists they stood up for. freedom of the press and for freedom of expression uniformly that's not the case today that it's a tragedy of journalism we day we saw a big turn not just with the media it is the mainstream media but with the democratic party you know well right and pointed this out very well flipping on this they supported it when it was against the bush administration and then the question is what happened why have they sided with some of the most extreme elements of you know the trumpet ministration and so on and glenn points to the very well which going green want to go to greenwald in the article were talking. but the grid irony is that many democrats will side with the trump d.o.j.

over the obama d.o.j. supposedly. their own motional personal contempt for us so much. due to the fact that he helped defeat their relief that he helped the feet hillary clinton the grave crime easily outweighs any concerns about the threat posed the press freedoms by the trump. attempt to criminalise and the publication of documents it's clearly venal ignoble partisan politics i'm old enough to remember when the press was talking about a bush war against the media i believe the enough to remember when the press was talking about obama's war against the media his war against whistleblowers pursuing more sources then all the governments in previous you have to put together when he had his administration had journalists the new york times put in jail for not so feeling in there so what you're saying we've run out of time gentlemen but what

you're saying mark is that left or right it doesn't really matter they have a contempt for freedom of speech here in journalism here that's all the time we have here many thanks and i guess here in moscow this is the end of our broadcast segment stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember crosstalk. i don't think the democrats are much closer to negotiate with the republicans or president trump so i think people are going to have to acknowledge that the united states over the next couple years is going to be consumed even more so by our internal our turtle bickering in affairs.

pranking gave americans a lot of job opportunities i needed to come up here to make some money like me twenty five thousand dollars as a teacher or i could make fifty thousand dollars a year truck so i chose to drive a truck people who rush to. a small town in north dakota was among the rate of zero percent is like the gold rush is very very similar to a gold rush but this beautiful story ended with pollution and the bus station a lot of people have left here i don't know too many people here and just slow down so much they lost jobs got laid off the american dream is changing that's not what it used to be. and that's a tough reality to deal with. i don't think the democrats very much moved in the negotiation with the republicans or president so i think people are going to have to acknowledge that the united states over the next couple

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