another month of hypocrisy because. the u.s. is hundred with saudi arabia for years and they've done some terrible things the fact is a home invasion of yemen was would have been a good much more important than the murder of monica shoji for cutting down on relations but instead of that they are actually supporting the invasion of yemen humaine it's go to turn around here let me read to you something that donald trump said in the last few days here saudi arabia would gladly withdraw from yemen if the iranians would agreed to leave they would immediately provide desperately needed humanitarian assistance additionally saudi arabia has agreed to spend billions of dollars in leading the fight against radical islamic terrorism do you make any sense of any of those words go ahead and. i think those words are actually very ridiculous because iran has no physical presence and yes i mean yes you're on has supported the cooties before but there's been such a blockade on yemen that you're on doesn't have the necessary means to even send

humanitarian aid let alone be physically present there with regards to yemen i think we're witnessing the worst humanitarian crisis since world war two i mean save the children which is a british charity just announced that eighty five thousand children under the age of five years old have died out of starvation in the past three years and essentially we're seeing a blind eye being shown especially by the american towards what the saudis are doing not only that but they have helped the saudis both in terms of refueling their aircraft as well as intelligence sharing all regarding the issue of islamic terrorism we have to again remember that fifteen out of the nineteen hijackers on the nine eleven terrorist attacks were saudi nationals so how can the saudis be fighting terrorism where when they are the root of terrorism in the region and they have been for many the most extreme form of islam which is what is and they have

spread it all the cross the world so so i don't think those statements by trump make any sense i have a very strong sense that mr bolton may have written those words for the president here i've seen let me go to you in lee in leeds one of the i agree with jonathan steele i mean the hypocrisy of criticizing trump when you can look at every you know since the second world war the number of dictators that the united states is protected in funded in a given legitimacy so i mean i really don't take the washington post in the new york times very seriously on this but what i think is serious here is if there is no pushback against the saudis for being involved in this horrific crime then it's actually enabling the crown prince of saudi arabia that he can actually do anything he wants now there will be no punishment whatsoever go ahead and leaves. yes it seems that some. states. see any

problem. and they completely if we if you just use a huge element or people see what they see it would be a good idea to examine why four pieces induces the city gates don't cha used absolutely be turned. back on. been silent to civil i think we still haven't completely exhausted why mom and been suddenly decided to choose. and actually if we should one light on these pair hats the keys to the we understand why implement chant use one hundred percent determine. its case i strongly believe that it is the detail bit naive and simplistic and reductions to assume that my hammer insanity going through all that to chill john lansford search is simply because he was criticizing. me

simply because he was criticizing his foreign policy in the region although this has been one of the prevailing narrative although the last few weeks but it seems there is an element of truth which is only seen in these regimes although i cannot find abilify and one hundred percent but i strongly think that actually jump off a ship she was a cio not because he was criticizing the sun. but simply because perhaps he knew too much what he wanted to events are very good point because you know he's been betrayed in western media some kind of dissident but he was really in many ways the ultimate insider is well here jonathan one of the interesting things that we've seen here is that we have had a number of senators lindsey graham. for example come out and say the most. demeaning things you could possibly say about

a person and then we have the cia coming out with its high confidence message i hate that phrase but that they believe that the trail of the go goes all the way back to the crown prince it seems to me that this is being picked up as a domestic political issue in the united states to go after trump what do you think . there is another point of that and of course to there is a difference of view between cia and president trump on the question of russian involvement in the direction of trying to sixteen etc so russian trump is already against the intelligence agencies on some of the big issues and so this is part of the ongoing war but i mean just to come back to your initial point about of the nonsensical statements of trumpets made let's not forget the discussion recently is twenty eleven trump was quoted as saying that saudi arabia is the world's biggest funder of terrorism and they're using petrol de petro dollars our own money to fund terrorists and shooting and killing our own people i mean it was done

a complete one hundred eighty degree turn now suddenly is saudi arabia. yeah they i mean that twitter archive can be a bit troublesome it times let's go back to turn around one of the things i find interesting what one of the reasons why trump is still speaking about saudi arabia and the most the perla to terms i mean it is quite bizarre if you look at his twitter feed but it's really his administration is made of made it very clear that the country that you reside in right now is going to target and moving israel in the saudis along with their plans for a say at regime change into iran they have to stick with the saudis because that's they're an intricate part of that plan is what is bothersome in is troublesome is that is they the washington has chosen saudi arabia to be a key pillar in their anti ran policy go ahead. yes so they have been using saudi arabia the americans have been using saudi arabia as a proxy if you will to essentially confront iran nevertheless this hasn't been very

successful on under donald trump yet rather than isolating iran they have actually ice of the themselves when they decided to leave the nuclear deal aside from saudi arabia the u.a.e. and israel virtually the entire international community was against this move and nearly the entire international community is supporting you on and the nuclear deal to stay in place so it hasn't been very successful also i think we have to consider did the downsides of supporting the saudis now when mohammed bin samon came into power we have to remember that killing cautiously wasn't the first reckless behavior from them i mean he started to arrest his political opponents in the ritz carlton hotel the american state side and they didn't do anything they implemented a blog aid on qatar they didn't do anything they kidnapped a lebanese prime minister and forced him to resign still the americans gave them

a free pass and even with canada when they cut relations with canada over it just a single tweet that criticized saudi arabia over human rights again the americans didn't support the canadians which are their natural ally so essentially they allow the saudis under the ryan of mohamed bin samon to continue with this reckless behavior that they this instance of which is the killing of hostile she and as a result of that even if they weren't directly involved in the killing i think they share a major responsibility in it absolutely we're going to go back to you in leads here or what you know and i want to talk about this in the second half of the program as well is what does the united states get out of its strategic relationship with saudi arabia other than the headaches go ahead. because. we see it's struck with the last six so the months.

larry. been talking about the fact impeach george shot i'll be using. it be using his position as the president of the united states in order to expand he's seen business empire according to some reliable reports in two thousand and seventeen in own that shop companies at least sold city finds a million dollars worth of these states to part of their show companies we should bomb systematically. divides and i would very much need a lot of ops your buyers will probably from saudi arabia or at least consumption it should. i have been a little doubt that i actually don't shop as some personal interests

in common of keeping a nice warm relationship between washington and that it was started as a very interesting theory we're about to go to the break but i think one thing is absolutely clear the neo cons to be surrounded himself with their aid they're driving his policy here gentlemen i want to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on trump and saudi arabia stay with arg. i've been saying the numbers mean folks they matter you have over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten dollars fine happy day. eighty five percent of global wealth you want to be ultra rich eight point six percent market shock thirty percent rise last year some with four hundred to five hundred three per second per

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back to crossfire we're all things considered i'm peter labelle you were discussing trump in saudi arabia. ok let me go back to jonathan in london you know i suppose it's the biggest problem in many ways is that it's really the united states isn't have a relationship with saudi arabia rather it has with this royal family and this is what makes the relations very difficult i mean there is speculation that as i mentioned earlier the cia with its report. placing essentially blame on the crown

prince but it. there is there is widely it's widely speculated that the cia doesn't really like the crown prince very much and they would have preferred another candidate and and i as i said before we went to the break here they're the people that trump has surrounded himself with they definitely have something for iran in mind ok and and saudi arabia is part of the team and whatever it takes to get the you know the neo-cons agenda to to her wish and they're willing to accept i think that's why when we are our guest in tehran mentioned all of these failures of the crown prince that's why they're overlooking them ok this is really the case here do you think there is a play jonathan to forward for for family change not necessarily regime change. well i mean if they had mohammed bin nayef who was previously the top sort of security person in riyadh he would have been better key and so on but it doesn't

change the basic parameters of the huge deep relationship between the u.s. and saudi arabia i think it's not just because they're using saudi arabia against iran and saudi arabia's very willingly going along with that they don't need much persuasion there are two other big factors one of course is the arms sales huge billion dollar sales of american weapons to saudi arabia which helps the american economy but the very big issue in israel the question of israel of course is already they want to do what there is now being called normalization which is to get the arab countries to start normalizing they're going to actions with israel first on a commercial basis its tenets and sharing than political and diplomatic to allow israel to have a much freer hand in the middle east and the view we have been reports of on the table contacts between the saudi intelligence people and the israeli intelligence people whom we've seen. who went to oman recently in their other contacts with arab

countries as well in the gulf so that's really it's a huge thing if they could get saddam going to come out openly declare that israel was a normal states and they could have diplomatic relations with it that would be a huge prize for the total trump and the neo call and a bit let me go back to. that and that would be a very big prize for jared because apparently that's part of his grand settlement for the middle east there but i don't know i mean if i were in the trump white house i would see that the trials and tribulations of benjamin netanyahu the prime minister he's in a tight spot politically. he's a he's acting foreign minister sorry defense minister right now. so you know you have this normalization to be. between saudi arabia in israel do you think that agenda will work in trying to isolate iran in the region because basically it's a sunni shia thing they're trying to play here go ahead and. yes but the fact is

that the trump family and as especially jared kirshner have invested so much in mohamed bin samon that it's very difficult to undermine him or change him right now i mean u.s. media actually reported that the list of princes that were arrested in the ritz carlton hotel the rivals of mohamed bin saddam on the list was actually given to m.b.'s by jarrett questionnaire and that's how that's how close they are the problem is however that the new issue of normalization of arab countries with israel is not a sunni shia thing it's actually a issue of the palestinians the position of the saudis has always been under fire had been on drugs the law that they would only normalize relations when a fair solution to the palestinian problem would be found and the problem we're having right now is this normalization is happening without any sort of more of lucian you know who are the palestinians is in fact the palestinian yes in fact

that hostage situation has even gotten worse for example when the negotiations and settlement happened in the early one nine hundred ninety s. there were only one hundred thirty thousand settlers living in the occupied territories today there is over half a million so the two state solution has essentially died and we have to remember that the issue of normalization with israel is also very unpopular in the muslim world so it's actually going to be a very difficult task both for n.b.s. and for jerry to question or you know i've seen you know it's not the first time the west has used elite capture to get its way and i agree. if there is such a thing as an arab street you better you better check in with that before you start but the there is a normalization already of relations maybe not so public. the bit between israel and saudi arabia is the u.s. why is it i'm not saying trump now but the u.s. in general is it wise to put all its eggs in one basket i mean this relationship

between saudi arabia and israel what is the downside because i don't see a whole really a whole lot of upside go ahead of human limbs leaves me looking at so a lot of the sense of transforming the us is seen as one of these three. iran centric to which to effectively change everything into a political landscape. he needs he believes that actually. he's the alternate source of trouble and american insecurity in the region and in all due to resists the reigning position in the middle east he has to park create these alliances the triangle between washington d. . and reacts and he's not surprising a tool all of the last three or four weeks when effectively every important

politician expressing some concern about the situation particularly when we realize that there was the don't recall election between the southie a savage men and the killing of john for sure cheap easy to look in israel because the people like not on yahoo constantly said yes what's happened was not nice but at the same time isabel and the huge what they call stability and security in the middle east but requires their continuous position. been inside so if you can assert their position well for american foreign policy within the seriousness of the front the it's at least two then it doesn't make sense to maintain an. in order to constitute a need to brush up against against you know as. well you know all i could

you actually know i can say let me go to jonathan here right now the over the last fifteen years or so the more the west and its proxies in the in the region try to isolate around the more powerful rand i really don't understand there's no learning curve these people don't learn here jonathan they were one of the most tragic things i think for me and i made it a point on this program to continue discussing what's going on in yemen it took leak the murder of shogi to actually get the yemen story into the mainstream media and it was about time here what worries me is big giving you know giving dictators a free pass is nothing new ok at all all right but in this case here isn't it enabling saudi arabia's her refer to a murderous policy viz of yemen to go on checked. when to use indigent it is going on in the united states has made some little minor adjustments they said they were in tow with the refueling in-flight refueling of saudi craft to

a bombing in yemen but twenty percent of the flights involve u.s. refueling so the eighty percent is still going ahead the u.s. also has been calling for a cease fire but cecily done unless you put some diplomatic clout behind it and threaten to his tool help from mohamed bin solomon he's never going to agree to a cease fire there have been some pinpricks things really acting. by the u.s. but there is another point i'd like to make which i think is important in the trump statement which is to say he parroted the comments that king solomon and mohamed bin some on the sun has said which is to jamal khashoggi was linked to the muslim brotherhood president if that's true i don't know but the muslim brotherhood is the real danger for the saudis and that's why they hated so much because it was. in political islam but with democratic rights and elections and proper political parties and so on which is why are they wanted to see it destroyed in egypt against

qatar because qatar helps out the muslim brotherhood why are they bad relations with turkey because turkey is in a sense very similar to the muslim brotherhood having an islamic political party in power so. why are so. to kushal ji. let's go back to iran here. i want to stay with the issue of yemen here what is that going it looks like there is just no political will because we have the defense secretary in the united states matters he's again saying that there will be talks in december but it sounds like it is the can gets keep getting kicked down the road i mean there is no political will in washington to to stop the saudis and their. destroying yemen what is the united states get out of that what is the west in general get out of a destroyed yemen where it's basically moving towards a form of genocide go ahead. yes so instability in the war in the middle east

is good for washington in the short term because i mean they sell billions of dollars of weapons to disability so the saudis being involved in war is actually good for business and i think that's something to donald trump made very clear in his recent statement essentially saying that this is part of the america first policy where you know the saudis can get away with what they're doing because they're bringing jobs and money to the united states well i would say i'm sorry i wouldn't really had really i would really contest that ok the deals that he's talking about are in the pipeline they're not even really fine i mean the bombs on the planes they all came from the bush obama era trumpets had no input zero impact on arms sales to saudi arabia. at this point i'll give you the last word interim go ahead yes i would totally agree with that the trump is is an expert in exaggerating numbers but i would say that even if those numbers were true in the long run this

kind of policy of supporting an aggressive dictator like m.b.'s is going to be bad for us interests the saudis have for mentored a lot of instability in terrorism in the region i mean when the rise of a group such as isis which came out of the illegal invasion of iraq essentially had a wahhabi ideology twelve out of twelve books out of comments that i'm sorry i actually have to jump in here more by i have to jump in here where run out of time many thanks to my guests into round leeds and london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r t see you next time and remember crosstalk tools.

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