probably there is no god about it whatsoever we have the evidence that you did it there is nothing that you can say that will convince me otherwise all i want to know is why. could you confess to a crime that you did not commit. and interrogation technique used by the majority of police officers in the united states is causing controversy across the country. created in the sixty's by the private company john reed this method has gone on to influence most of the interrogation techniques taught in american police academies it involves nine different stages leading from confrontation to spoken confession to a final written confession this technique has allegedly compelled thousands of innocent people to confess to crimes that they did not commit interrogations should be conducted in a non supportive environment we want to get the person on to our territory away from his or her own surroundings the interrogation room should be quiet private

free of any outside distractions or noises. so please. remember what. i don't know they tell these interrogators that you can tell whether someone is guilty by looking at them and listening to what they say that confirms their belief that the suspect is guilty and it is a recipe for disaster what our family realized what had happened in that interrogation room it was like oh my god oh my we begin to move closer shortening the distance between the suspect and ourselves moving into their personal space is . needed yes they are down for. the united states to be proud of the many failures of the criminal justice system nobody saw coming nobody could see coming that false confessions were. could

be that prevalent in this population of wrongful conviction accusing yourself of committing a crime seems unbelievable but recently an official study from the u.s. department of justice has revealed that almost a third of the exonerated people have confessed to a crime that they did not actually commit at the beginning of the interrogation investigator enters the room stands about three or four feet away from a suspect looking down on the suspect and in a very direct and unequivocal way accuses him or of committing the crime. and that's what happens when you're dealing with crooked cops. crooked people who don't care about other people's lives. they took an oath to help to save lives and fight for people and they did not do that that in mass once case.

they were comfortable it was satisfactory and they had a man and that's all they really wanted was the body. so they took. from twenty one years and twelve days. all. right and then he says well there's twenty three. fortune our way or direction i want to go on life and everything. fun

job was. kind of slow and and i went on it's more of a seasonal type of thing. so i love to supplement my income a little bit and i made a bad bad decisions and go on so i got out fifty eight it with our contacts a little bit. some people my say for a day other. and. as far as that at the time just trying to figure things out. were. at age forty three more months and has spent twenty one years of his life behind bars. in one nine hundred ninety six he's convicted of murder and sentenced to fifty years in prison at the time he's making a living by selling drugs in an apartment building in detroit.

is accused of killing christina brown one of his young clients on the night of the nineteenth of january one nine hundred ninety six. however on the night of the murder lamar was far from the scene of the crime. he was at home with his six year old daughter. able remember waking up watching cartoons with my daughter saturday morning and she woke me up at nine and i was like mom we're watching cartoons and davey and i want to where my daughter saturday morning and. that's like i want to mom found some memories you know perhaps the last day i was out. that saturday morning lamar monson is the first to arrive at the scene he finds the apartment in a state of chaos. and then he sees the young christina brown lying motionless on

the floor on january twentieth one thousand nine hundred six lamar went for his afternoon shift to the apartment and he found the body of christina brown he knew her as crystal. he thought she was seventeen years old it was a young tall young woman who just cried herself a seventeen after she was twelve and she was another one of the dealers who dealt out of that apartment and what he found was this horrific bloody crime scene. were. she was in a state of needed medical attention and. or if it. was she was a. she was away from me and tried that. and i was told there. just hold on i want to get you know. i'm going to be long. and

frantically on the run and bang in the knowledge door and that apartment for asked to call the police or call him as the police came and lamar spoke to the police and the police immediately decided that he was there a suspect and so on that day very day he was arrested in fact we have a police report where the detective basically says on the same day of the killing we can close this case if we can just get get our monson to confess. i got a phone call. telling me that my son had been arrested for killing a young lady. i know that could never never never be possible from the training that he had had from the time he was born until twenty two years and they took him away from me. i was devastated i with. i couldn't eat and i

couldn't sleep i walked the floor wondering what had happened why it happened and where would they choose him. kristina brown dies a few hours later in hospital. the officers of the detroit police force take more monson to the station and begin to question her. questions like she was my girlfriend and she was my girlfriend she's more like the little sister of the bunch . we live in there i never lived there in the one they're. just. questioning was core from witness to suspect. part of the interview process is you're supposed to use what recalls the behavioral

analysis interview. and in that if you use these techniques it's like you know you're watching a person's body language or you're watching the way that they say something or the way that the answer your questions there's also a series of seventeen questions that each is that you can ask the person and you know based is that based on your answers on their answers and based on your observations you will be able to tell whether or not they're being deceptive or not they're guilty with over eighty percent accuracy. verify judgment i'm very it's like being a human lie detector test and the problem with that is really read itself the read people admit that is not based on any science whatsoever just based on their own observations the real science says it's baloney it doesn't work.

and it when they've done experiments with it they pretty much show that the accuracy is like flipping a coin it's fifty fifty. the read into. technique makes its debut in the sixty's it is revolutionary for police stations. john reed a police officer from chicago proposes a new and less brutal approach to interrogation. i think john reed was a reformer in many ways you have to understand that when reid came to prominence. the method that was used widely throughout the united states was what's called the third degree police officers were feeding suspects into confessing to crimes that they did or didn't commit. they were tuning them up they were using the rubber hose they were grilling them for hour after hour after hour

and read to his credit knew that that was a way that was fraught with danger in that it might get false or unreliable confessions the problem is that he and weed in this is today have never come to grips with this act and psychological interrogation tactics can also produce false confessions. you know world a big part of the law and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that made stream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the back and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for

the truth the time is now we're watching closely watching the hawks. negatively as close camp sundown began for people that can't laugh. and their like so vampire damn. safe housing and they don't have to talk about what they go through with that's because we understand her daughter katie was diagnosed with a very rare sun sensitive condition if i get sunburned i see she does are still patients when they come problems with the walk to talk to some of the brains are actually shrinking inside their skull gets thicker in the brain still small. the pain is indescribable it's feels like a really really bad chemical burn but it goes through your skin in your muscle all it down to the dog. there is no really. weird. not to sure mrs but disco.

join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics school business i'm showbusiness i'll see you then. i'm missing on the nine circumstances that's a loud for these imagine so for this very very eventful violence i think that we may get the sons and even grandsons of guys at some point in the future it's primarily a political issue in iraq that has taken on the minutes we. put on the for cations .

the first problem is they have this analysis by which they tell their trainees that you can tell when someone's lying by the tone in their voice or by their posture or whether they sit rigid in their chair or relaxed whether they look at you and give you i contact or look away or look down whether they fold their arms fold their legs look up look left look right you name it it's a q and the retreat interrogator. has a whole list of body language behaviors and verbal behavior so the suspects says i don't know that's considered deceptive if the suspects says. swear to god i had nothing to do with this appeals to religiosity are considered deceptive. they lead their trainees to believe that they are lie

detectors that they are human lie detector and once you make that judgment don't turn back move on to interrogation. when i first entered into the vision you had a lot of officers that's what they were saying and you did it your cue there who you know it was bombard me with that as i'm in a tara geisha. arkansas my mind was. all over the place just devastated by what i've seen what was going on and then to get here and now you're trying to suggest that i committed the crime. the more monson's interrogation continues through the night as the hours go by the questions progressively turn into accusations sold roshi so it goes for you. you killed her she was your girlfriend and just creating

a scenario that they wanted. despite what obvious attempting to relate to far as what i'm. so i would go back and forth and back before from the interrogation lasted maybe. four hours because it. is important issue you seldom will find a false confession taken in an hour seldom will you find that in two hours when you look at false confession cases twelve fifteen sixteen eighteen twenty hours could be broken down at some point the average person does what an average rational person does they conclude that i need to get out of this situation desperate they hate it here among comfortable i'm stressed and the more i deny it the more they call. me a liar and i just can't get out this one so they're looking for

a way out of a bad situation. tired . confused. that's from the over we're. taken to. ninth floor locker at the time. and so i'm up there in star wars kingsley k. rist. came believe was going oh. are you just can imagine i'm just a managed to scramble. the process of interrogations designed to put people in just that frame of mind make the most comfortable make them want to get out and don't take no for an answer don't accept their denials. now during most interrogations

the suspect is not going to just sit there and listen to you while you develop your theme they're going to try to deny any involvement whatsoever but that should be expected many guilty people introduce their denials with permission phrases such as can i say one thing which is just listen to me but sir if i can only explain when the interrogator hears those phrases it's important to interject yourself and stop the person from continuing because you let him talk they'll say the words i didn't do it and the more often a person says they didn't do it the more difficult it becomes for us to get a confession. look at any interrogation out there what you'll see is threat promise threat promise threat lie a lie a lie and it's back to back. it's over and over and over and over and it's cutting

the person off and like i said it's narrowing your options and giving you this perception that oh my god i'm facing this guy knows the things that i'm guilty he has all this evidence i know that is bogus these witnesses didn't see me but they're lying on me and he's telling me that the only way that i can get a break from this is by telling him what he wants to hear. there so stressed and may have to do with how long they've been there may have to do with the fact that it's late at night they've been accused and called a liar they've threatened promises of the maid whatever it is they get to a breaking point where they decide that it's in their best interest to confess at this moment it's in my better interest to confess them to continue denial. lamar monson sees that he is about to be caught in

a trap police detective joan going places a file on the table. or the broader her office. and. she said there is shared a pile of files on this and she mentioned where are you notice she was make a reference to those files being evidence begins you against me and i am i ok or i don't know what that is book i haven't done anything and i don't know why i'm down here and i want to go basically. what was inside of this fight. for anything. lamar monson tries to ignore her but american police officers have the right to lie to a suspect lying is a normal part of the process used to put suspects under pressure.

i can lie. about the evidence i can kill i think i absolutely the courts allow me to live up to a point you know there's certain laws that are so outrageous that good not records are going to lead it but i can tell you all kinds of lies i can tell you that we have three or four we have four witnesses who say that they saw you take the money and you're going to cock oftentimes it will come in with a. file folder filled with papers doesn't matter what's in that file folder it could be take out menus from a restaurant ok and oftentimes there will be clipped on the top of that holder a d.v.d. ok and police officers will tell the suspect that there was a camera across the street that was filming the area where the crime occurred and that their images on the d.v.d.

so there's technological evidence that police officers sometimes use other times they'll claim that they've had they found fingerprints or blood evidence or d.n.a. evidence imagine a suspect and then interrogation and they're there for again some period of time that is uncomfortable and the police now are lying about the evidence that's suspect may we know full well that he didn't do anything wrong but he's starting to feel trapped and overwhelmed by this presentation of incriminating evidence thinking i didn't do this but they're claiming they've got evidence and whether this is. well set up for what i've got to find a better way out anybody who's been the victim of a high pressure sales tactics knows what this feels like anybody who says that they would never ever confess to a crime and they didn't do. happen been under this sort of pressure.

these tactics are relentless for lamar months some time seems to stand still the police detective offers him what appears to be a way out. if she was saying that she believed that i did do it and this she was willing to help me but i had to help her cope with. so. began to give me a scenario. self-defense. she suggested or it probably helped my situation and then. she said if i would cooperate send a statement that i would be home by that time the next day. over a series of other tech. with the interrogator does he narrow it down for the suspect. to choices. oath of them involve

the suspect admitting their guilt but one paints the suspect as an evil person on a monster a cold blooded remorseless killer and the other one provides an excuse for the suspect for why they committed the crime maybe it was self defense maybe it was an impulsive act not a deliberate act not a premeditated act and over time you know with increasing pressure on the suspect. many suspects will accept the path of least resistance. and accept a less heinous explanation for why they can be taught to cry. during the theme we offer to the suspect psychological justification for the mission of the crime we don't legally justify it but we offer him a moral excuse that will minimize or justify in his own mind committing the crime

and this should be done in a monologue format. it comes to the point where i'm doing this over and over and i start to see you getting checked it and i get to the point where i think i need to come in with the final question my job my goal of the interrogation is to limit your options and to give you the at least a temporary perception that your only option is to confess to this crime. that's the best route for you to take. the. whole process the words when we have a conversation we don't process literally what is said we process between the lines we process not what is said but what is implied when an interrogator says i think you're a good person i don't think you meant to do this i think it was an accident and by

the way i would have done the same thing you're thinking oh this is no big deal i can confess and that's my easy way out here. and that's the point at which people going fast. i was out of it and they're. just ready to whatever you want to me to do maybe disarm sinusoid it and my mind. turning that he would be able to. the what's necessary to sort it out was innocent and i didn't commit this crime because i didn't commit the crime. on the third. of january one thousand nine hundred ninety six at six o two am after ten hours of interrogation detective a gorean obtains a single signature from lamar monson in this document he explains that he involuntarily stabbed christina brown detective going in and was subsequently

removed from the homicide unit and later terminated from the detroit police and the reason she was removed from the homicide unit was because she was accused of fabricating words tricking people into signing false confessions. is what i would do. we care the music with us. with a drag here. by you looking to get rid of those who are not go away who will not die quietly. real the heart of

what we do is the truth. because you know them around. i'm one of them but i think you might. get one when there's a real buddy. a. one of them one night you should have and this.

put them to i don't want or i can just let me as a nation into that community yeah because she knew he could feel that he had a chicken dad. he made a move to follow the mother that young enough but otoh both were out of the. when a loved one is murder it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murder i would prefer it be in the death penalty just because i think that's the fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict is found innocent the idea that we were executing innocent people is terrifying who's just knew it was present and that we're even many of the times families want the death penalty to be abolished the reason we have to get pell here is because that's what

murder victims' families what that's going to give them peace that's going to give them justice and we come in and say. not quite enough we've been through this this isn't the way. the u.k. prime minister says head back said can the knocks a bright future off the leaders spoke to endorse the deal thoughts to reason made. faces an uphill battle to get a hostile parliament on his side. in the stories that shapes the week violence spills on to the streets of prongs as tear gas and can and they used against yellow vests for.