the for occasions. u.s. veterans who come back from war often tell the same stories. were going after the people who were killing civilians they were not interested in the wellbeing of their own soldiers either there already is several generations of them so i just got this memo from the start that says we're going to attack and destroy the government and seven countries in five years americans pay for the wars with them money. with their lives if we were willing to go into harm's way and willing to risk being killed for a war surely we can risk some discomfort or easiness for.

a low end welcome to cross talk we're all things considered i'm peter lavelle what is the next step for the saga known as brags that also is a stage being said to finally end the syrian conflict and why is m i six scrambling to stop trying to. cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark sloboda he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have dmitri bobbitt she's a political analyst with international and we have authored them choke he is deputy dean at the department of political science at moscow state university all right gentlemen crosstalk roles in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate other let me go to you first here well it's done at least this stage. brigs that the european union has accepted to resumes deal the

problem is it doesn't look like the deal has been accepted in her own country yet has to face parliament and there's a lot of. squabbling to say the least that it won't get through but what is the context of all of this here because you know i was trained as a historian we had the concept of the concert of europe we had balance of power in europe is that balance gone now well that this balance is not all was the same it made changes over time and i can remind you of the other times of shot a target is targeted to go all over when he tried to prevent the british accession to the use only when he was no longer president britain joined to join the european union europe european community european economy and that he would be a great konami community and then that you and i so you so maybe now that he has to repeat the next step of history we got going back to that time when british britain

was out of the european community but if we talk about nowadays developments i can say that. the british prime minister is trying to play a double game because there are too many stakeholders too many interests and i was sure there will be a deal and then there is a deal about but we've talked about this before no deal is better than a compromise or a compromise but a new you know deal was not an option because any compromise is better than no deal because everyone will be worse off if there is not ok mark is the scenting i know that i know that looking. for a doctor i completely disagree and a deal that makes britain subservient to eat you regulations and control without giving them any rep representation politically makes them a second class colony it's the worst of both worlds voters voted for brags that they get the e.u. control. and the lack of sovereignty that they want it away from and they don't get

the economic benefits that they as strongly as they still might have liked so i see it as the absolute worst of boss will leave the parliament is going to agree with him exempted oh i think the viewers of all program know my it to you so i feel kind of vindicated to if you could prove to them i was suspicions so far and i wouldn't tell you what happened was that you made it a sample you know they they wanted to make it as difficult for britain to relieve the winning was no no no why wouldn't i well we were told that this was a preview and you know venetians based on. the span of the previous models and now we see that this is a co-host which is not only was going on i think everybody understood that i think it's the hotel california you know you can never leave me here ok last word on this the same time followed very smart way of doing that they

said let's agree on principles and let's discuss details later so the devil may be in the details and british may negotiate and haggle about the details that are favorable but the end of the day interestingly he can sign any piece of paper if he wants but parliament doesn't it is going to this is all we can i get isn't over just isn't there at all to cost forty eight billion dollars. sixty billion my right is still i'm still wondering if if. this terrible deal rejected scenario is not intended to lead to and that's why we're going to reconnect that's right mark will probably be talking about this next week ok let's switch gears here but there is movement well you wouldn't find this out in the mainstream media was going on with the lippo what's going on with moving towards peace. well we're not moving towards peace in syria we've just moved to a new. and far more dangerous than the conflict and right now we essentially have

a frozen conflict a three way mexican standoff between syria with their allies the russian government iran and hezbollah the guns regime and turkey backing the islamic jihad ists both officially their proxy forces on an officially particularly in province where there's a demilitarized zone and the us backing the syrian democratic forces the which is largely the kurds the p.k. k. in eastern syria basically occupying eastern syria and of course syria's oil fields and this d.m.z. agreement between russia and turkey essentially with with the syrian government and the. jihadi rebels not actually being a party to the talks as far as anyone can tell as we predicted on the show it's

completely falling apart for the same reason that every other deals want to part is that nonetheless the rebels are all. begins to damascus government is preparing some kind of operation to begin the liberation of the well just i mean just just in the last week. was warmed by. the koran and you know basically chemical weapons were used most likely. it did not make big news in the western television but it certainly made big news in see so they're not reporting that the rebels are. the reason and they're the reason the shells came from the from the supposedly peaceful demilitarized zone that they're united states and that you were so concerned about my book made me especially angry it was the fact that the united states impulse sanctions. one of

the oil companies so that supplied if you go to syria can you imagine you know post-war europe nine hundred forty six nine hundred forty seven some would say all because we're not quite happy with the political situation in europe any company that supplies fuel to the devastated germany or to other countries would be penalize and this is exactly what this is exactly what michael compel said you know imposing the sanctions on the syrian and iranian and russian companies he said. today u.s. treasury action targeting the russia iran will scheme to prop up assad and finance his bar and hamas sends a clear message there are grave consequences for anyone sheep in oil to see it among us well he puts them together i guess what he really does matter is you carry a state that's seven years it doesn't mean taking halley will never leave what you have to. in order to justify the fact that the u.s.

is now saying shinning trade oil trade there's no reason for the u.s. to sanction. it while there is a reason of course it's occupying syria's oil fields and it doesn't want the syrian government getting oil told us they allow them to rebuild their country so they're not allowed to import you are no longer allowed to collect to conduct free trade global trade if it doesn't meet u.s. approval because if you conduct trade that doesn't meet u.s. approval you will now be sanctioned that's what i'm paying because i mean these entities and these companies are going to continue to do it irrespective of the saying this is why i always say if you want to go down the sanction rabbit hole your likelihood of success is quite limited. now well if we think about syrian conflict launched chicago scale context i would say that even if not all of the situation is frozen and there are several several issues. that you mentioned there was only grew. and between russia and turkey maybe with considering

a serious approach but there were no other parties who are concerned about the conflict they were not involved until the making of this decision so they may prevent this decision from being implemented so situation is very unstable and even if this conflict is frozen you'd only gives time to both sides to accumulate to their potential target t.v. i want i'm much more for the gauge went in the diplomacy we still in istanbul we had mccrone we had merkel go there meet with the one with president putin. these initiatives are difficult but there. they have traction and i believe it ok it has to happen there actually has been i was even more traction with the arab governments with the u.a.e. talking about reestablishing a embassy in syria and this shows that the gulf states have basically given up the proxy war and they're coming to terms with sometimes the saudi written sort of

other things to think about you know. also when we say frozen conflict i said frozen conflict it's of course that's only rhetorical you're not actually frozen it's not the rebel jihad is al qaeda in our weekly conducting attacks to us to the west into law thought. to the south into home r. and to the east into west aleppo with dimensions with these chlorine artillery shells so it's only frozen yes political agreement not to go direct russians are actually more russia going to russia across the very important threats hold last week because the russian foreign minister say. the regularly use the united states of acting as an ally the so-called islamic state at least on the territory of syria and it's it's i think it was very painful for him because for years for. years that we would have cooperation with the united states fighting terrorists.

now it only will because we've lost supposed to do mark and you can amend it all you want to that's what you suppose i think i think i think it's a positive development because if you look at this situation mark is right u.a.e. is talking about reopening the embassy to. perineal a new miss called great and doing something in syria you know for settlement who are who is absolutely insisting on regime change the e.u. and the united states supposedly the most civilized the western nations you know after everything we've gone through in my last word before we go to break yeah i mean it we're just entering a new stage of the conflict and be prepared that if there is a military operation extremely fortified territory with the turkish military heavily entrenched there along of their jihadi s. and it will be more difficult than tackling isis was this is why there is such reticence and it may lead to direct turkish russian and we'll return to this topic i'm very soon here we're going to go to a short break gentlemen and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on

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let me go to you mark i just speak will quickly because the story's ongoing and my six is trying to stop trump from releasing the fights of warrants. and documentation because well they are implicated in and so we have u.k. meddling in the american election two thousand and sixteen i suppose. the reason why trump decided not to release them in september like he said he would is that he's waiting for the molar report mahler's going to have his findings trump is going to have a trump card. to counter whatever findings that. in the british are furious about it yeah i mean there there is a danger of the u.k. being far more factually implicated in meddling in the us elections like like should have been obvious to anyone and their connections with the steel dossier and this being the basis for launching what would then become the mueller probe

basically discrediting all of it so trump it is playing for the best possible time i believe to release these and it will be a fact of lee a refutation not that we have any evidence that mueller has released any indictments or anything that would actually prove low hanging fruit walking what the investigation was supposed to be about which was trumped russia collusion and you know we've got mad for it for back taxes we've got a couple guys lying about things that weren't crimes and and you know that there's nothing serious in there but you know the there is still this holy grail mission that the mule report is supposed to discredit the trump administration and lead to a democratic party victory in two thousand and twenty if not impeachment beforehand and with the democrats again and again i keep seeing hillary clinton's name popping up as the only possible one who can be trapped in twenty twenty and i'm like this

is you know the different the the you know common definition of madness doing things again and again and expecting a different female you. know some political has some very powerful cards to play if you once well it's very simple you know the whole story is just made up what you heard first on this program a little i'm going to continue i mean and the point is that fortunately m i six is the last institution that is not biased in the whole of this situation i mean would have crowd they expect. splitting that dog. from their head of the british general staff mark cult and you know that you know by six that's not that my six but then that's the guy who is supposed to be working together with my sister left british military agency so here's what he says russia is much more dangerous than the islamic state russia has embarked on a systematic effort to explore and exploit western vulnerabilities but peculiarly

in some of the nontraditional areas of cyber space undersea warfare and of course well you remember their idea that russia was somehow going to cut the cables connecting europe to the united states and this is serious you know it was stated as fact this defense is various over the years it was. a date myself this was said in the one nine hundred eighty s. where they have the get gas pipelines to believe this then you're going to believe russia you can believe anything i think harvard put it very well or no on the page he rolled it's not to wait for some institutions like the new york times and seann to change our what are their editors and producers and go back to reporting they really instead of functioning as i did brought meals for every out sounding d.-a genes with who they gave humanities departments and of course well

the problem is that they won't stop acting as though it's the interesting thing is that we hear from the british defense establishment that russia is a real threat but six is doing everything it came into effect regime change in the united states so that is that what you do to friends. you know the ground was not a threat we had to switch gears here g. twenty is coming up in the reason we're mentioning the g. twenty is that there is going to be some interesting red faces i'm going to imagine with some of the guests that i think you know or i'm going well i think the murder of cop. it has already changed and then we do least because quietly quietly the seed lifted so this man did not die for nothing quietly quietly. saying that it was the crew war that he would cut short due to the royal family you know us they us individually and got into this we were ultimately yeah i mean you

can justify anything anything when we could make a separate program on who makes the world cruel exam question you know but i mean this is going to be very interesting here is that the the the fact is the trump administration wants to rehabilitate the saudi crown prince and it's coming up against a lot of resistance yeah i mean trump is basically ignoring this dossier so i just like this there would have been quicker i guess it's actually pretty good and he said i was going to give passing carrots right now but you know so i guess that and i mean there is a point i mean it's obvious that has argued wasn't some innocent journal he was a player he was a protege of the former intelligence chief of a former presume the crown prince and he was evidently involved in all kinds of initiatives with the cia to lay the groundwork against muhammad been solved and so i mean you know with that with n.g.o.s and initiatives that he was setting up so he

was a player you know of course that doesn't excuse what he did and trump is obviously following along with his you know campaign rhetoric which was saudi arabia and israel first or something like that. but i mean there is what you're talking about at the g. twenty is is of course the mahatma been saw and is going to be around trying to go around and smiling and shaking hands and pretending like nothing happened i think to just you know. play you know what he did i think he ought to sit down at the table in the g. twenty and just lay our bones sawed out on the table when you are come on martin you know but the point is that trump said wes payne didn't wear standing. up or visually he was standing there at the table when they were doing these think you know he was not just by he's saying that he is then didn't we wake up. we the government of ukraine what is that in the in the interesting thing here is that i

guess the kind of the oddity of trump's characterizations of the murder and the regime in riyadh is that he's basically saying his words reflect reality because foreign policy is not based on values it's based on us interests ok sure he said. he said in a very awkward way but he's probably the first president separate said it and that's really interesting in itself it's refreshing in a way well in a weird way you have marked change so for me ok president trump is still a business prisoners man he's very pragmatic so he does feel somewhat certainly transactional everything that is so business first. in this case he i think it tries to create as much uncertainty as possible saying maybe yes maybe no we don't know exactly who is guilty who is north why the decision was made and so on so for him to but that's really odd rhetoric from a guy that always knows what what's right and what's wrong i mean that's the only

topic i think he's ever come across like he was all so much like he wants to keep any option open for him which is for the steps the market is. something that's going to. foreign policy initiatives in the middle east down i mean the great the great bargain with the israelis the saudis i mean you know it's only two people now you know it's bibi netanyahu in trouble that are. so i mean orders of the crown prince and yeah and netanyahu i think is certainly doing a lot to prevent the behind closed doors to prevent and discourage the u.s. from doing anything and let's be perfectly honest the troops told in rhetoric are you know one thing but no other u.s. president is going to substantially decrease u.s. relations with saudi arabia because of this they they simply would have might have preferred to see a different evil crown prince in saudi arabia but all is not. here

because with these saudi arabia was clearly counting on these oil sanctions against iran and other countries remember the backdrop of all of this that israel and saudi arabia want is the u.s. to go to conflict with iraq or right and these oil waivers that trump granted its allies you know you know japan turkey iraq saudi arabia you know well it only got one right but you know india and china countries that obviously weren't going to fall in any way has dropped the oil price because the markets were expecting these sanctions and the oil price went up and now it dropped another like twenty dollars a barrel saudis are very unhappy about this because they're but budget is still very precariously balanced and overspent so they're very they think that the trumpet ministration has betrayed them by granting waivers to its allies when it was counting on a high oil price to carry it through well there may be

a way we're still some of the allies by michael pounds for the vice president to use some very tough rhetoric against china right because we're going to be another interesting meeting exactly that see what the g. twenty. story with oil prices. has said that we slapped arius on the cheney's groups vote with two hundred fifty billion dollars and we want china to change its behavior well that's a nice way to put. you know russia and china they have to behave like normal nations this is what we do and you're going to you know it's a little bit if you don't like your country's actually that's a good question about that i think a lot of the. what does it mean exactly behaving like a normal state that taking the rug you know what it is you know you. think they don't see it but see the american political we don't see they can't see the irony in it all because this kind of moral righteousness ok again going back to trump's

kind of weird transparent. reflections and descriptions of u.s. relations with saudi arabia i mean he doesn't use this word we're doing it for human rights we're doing it for democracy at least he's not said that ok but someone like pencil stripe certainly does believe that because only the american way is the only way it is the only right way the point is that. russia and china have to survive together in this situation because both targeted by the united states and all their attempts to cut the deal somehow separate yourself from the american dream is not left the station it's impossible so i think these did when to me and when meeting will show what the real decks to positional forces if china tries to survive alone well the interesting thing is is that trump leaves that the u.s. should lead but will end on this note if you were fewer people are following ok that's all the time we have many thanks and i guess he remarks this is the end of our

broadcast segment stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember crosstalk. please go campsite now and again for people that. like. so vampires. this is like a safe house i guess they don't have to talk about what they go through with us because we understand her daughter katie was diagnosed with a very rare sun sensitive condition if i get sunburned i heal she doesn't feel patients and they have problems with the walk to talk to some of the brains that are actually shrinking inside their skull gets thicker in the brain still small. the pain is indescribable it's feels like a really really bad chemical burn but it goes through your skin in your muscle all

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