debbie wassermann schultz head of the d.n.c. and six. prominent people finance communications or. so what they show is that within the d.n.c. there was a you know unity of the. most senior people including debbie wasserman schultz. to act. against bernie sanders in the past few days british police were challenged to reveal possible links to u.s. law enforcement agencies themselves investigating the trump presidency during proceedings about three miles from the studio president trump was asked about the world's most famous prisoner now under detention by the u.k. government as determined by the u.n. . i don't know what to think about it really i don't know much about i really don't why would he after all this. week. that was before he appointed a u.s.

secretary of state who said we gave leaks was a hostile intelligence service as for this country prime minister drazen may famously called for a hostile environment he would end up with a successor as home secretary have a rod resigning over the windrush mass deportation of people of color from britain rudd is now back overseeing a welfare system damned by the united nations for creating poverty but does a hostile environment continue i'm joined now by a well to romeo and his daughter rachelle thanks for coming on the other first of all what happened to you after living in britain for nearly sixty years british one hundred fifty five arrived in england one hundred fifty nine my ancestors were given british citizenship water slide masses. for the abolishment of slavery. all british colonies at that period of time. automatically. british subjects because we had no way to go on and i come from

maize and see and to go was a breeding call me so you can imagine we had no rights my ancestors had no rights they were. meant to work in the fields we were treated like animals greatly we had no pal my problems started when i lost my possible into about nineteen ninety six i then applied for another possible in two thousand and five thinking nothing over ten take a possible number it's i think nice and on percent of the population even though there is it took a thirteen years to get a buzz so thirteen years to come. people. people who thought i had arrived about you got to remember. i'm on these subjects i'm alive and i would say also my little subjects' warm house for my national insurance

number i thought i had my national insurance number reply back up information. jury service i left school at sixteen. i had the right to vote i had everything. and then praise possible solve house because of all this for more than a decade you weren't allowed to travel that's what i saw weddings funerals i missed my fall this renewal and then my sister in the last few know husbands you know couldn't visit them couldn't visit my nieces and nephews yes it was a total bad time you mean is the edge of full force me. back. so with that concept. it's one of those situations where you can open the doors you've got to prove who you are if you prove who you are they don't listening will be used because the next stage i mean i don't know whether to

tell the story. how did he tell you to the ends up with a letter threatening him with detention so you cuz it's been going on for such a length of time it was unbelievable initially so in two thousand and five dad applied for his past which got started i think just that been reports the police and everything so through that time he was kind of jumping in and stuff to kind of do what the home office asked for in the past all of it because they don't seem to talk to each other so they were both had in my father things when we got the letter it made it really real you know what it is yeah it was like if you don't report to with the harvest the home office at the. time when amber wrote is or was there they said their house if you don't i report you take a week of looking for you know it was like shocking not you know i was fourteen and because i was you take your father's nationalities well it's always really fight in my father's like my best friend is the be part of my life and you're going to break

up a family for the sake of that you can't do your job properly or confusing to do your job properly we've been conditioned as a community and been fragmented. to not kind of stand up to authority to a degree with us laws and all these different things since we've been in this country so then this just seemed that cannot. something to get us by you know just and it's smokescreen to me over what she the bigger picture was just in terms of advice for anyone going through this right now and being in this system you did eventually get out of the through the system to get through because it was there i found my pipe over. a five mile possible in the system i found the possible i came over with with my mother everybody record is there and i went they are just through the ice ages politicians always a closed they bring good they only look warm white they never look back at history

this is not the first time people of color it's been said by. different places just fine and i know that you didn't really want to talk to the media about the whole process and didn't really want to do that but what made you change your mind was it regime since. obviously i'm a roadies now she's just been promoted to sexist state and she's time abroad because prime minister when i was first approached it seemed like this was. pretty . i didn't have my head around the guy i didn't have an understanding for joining with other weird rushes and realize in the market situation is quite different from most because i had the possible and whatever happened happened some of them didn't hold possibles some of them had books in this country for forty or fifty is a my plight with that is how can the government i don't now these people stifle. and then pull the rug from underneath them they have spent most of their i don't

like in this country they've got right into it in this country you remember when this country was built it was built on immigration you got the saxons in by the romans and so forth so. we will be british of one form or another and i don't think that's what they took it because of the wind rush action great. helps a great deal so we have an understanding of those people's plight well the rationale thank you thank you very much for having us. well we just heard from two people argue least till dealing with resumes hostile environment i'm joined now by former labor council for hackney and when drugs campaign of patrick vernon he's just launched a new petition to the british government stating there should be no cap limit on compensation given to people like al wilder and rachelle thanks so much matter of coming on so i don't know what your immediate reaction was but what sort of confidence do you have a number rudd's disgraced windrush could be returning to government overseeing

universal credit as the compensation of the windows scandal continues by the. home office or obviously as minister she had responsibility for the implementation of the hostile environment she took of the mantle from theresa may and she resigned about may time because she broke the ministerial code because she lied to parliament and she admitted that she couldn't have a handle on what was happening the home office and four months later for her to be appointed as such a state for work's pensions face to all those victims of the in a scandal because for two main reasons firstly the government will be proposing a compensation scheme in the year martin for q.c. has been advising the government on this and one of the key issues the compensation scheme are lots of petition because my concern was that the government might put a cap on all claims. been affected by scandal and this someone is on universal

credit or receiving state pension was administered by the the e.p.a. obviously under rudd been the central state will have some degree of influence and responsibility i believe the compensation scheme if someone who has been affected by when a scandal who was refused benefits or they state pension because of their not proving that they were british and that's been sorted out they should be given the full compensation for the financial loss the loss in the loss in terms of benefits accrue to them clothes nor whereby underwrote who would oversee in the hostile environment in a new job such a state could turn round say to the home office or to the treasury actually i'm not in the i will make sure that people still being penalized for. receiving benefits because the because work up after what you want is justice they want to be firstly to sort out those people who are british so the kind of their status sorts that the ones of or in my petition i did six months ago it was an automatic status because as a explain the state has everything on this the have more information public up next

it's probably facebook but they have on this from penn. records our school records employ you know so therefore there's no need for rushes to. build the paper to prove the british they are british and secondly to have a fair compensation scheme for the emotional and financial loss that people have endured what we just heard that there seems to be a moment of race involved in this whole saga in various as a job it is now revealed that some wrongly deported have since died and they don't have records on the numbers that have died since people have been wrongly deported yes eleven people have or thereabout have died two have died in the u.k. o'connor and text of restore so i think it's outrageous it's one of the biggest miscarriages of justice for a very long time and you raise money for their funerals and top of that because the government refused from this whole scandal even though the polls are ten thousand times they refused to have

a hard fund or an interim payments so i looked through go fund me workers would go for me to raise fuel costs for the extra restore. on behalf of his mother misoprostol and also for sarah connor so in the past the fact the public the public understood the plight they make contributions and on top of that i'm working with a charity called you i don't comes with of immigrants and we launched a windows justice fund raise about sixty thousand pounds because when we go out small grant secured to groups who are advising people around the status because a lot people even now a lot people have come forward to the home office because the launch was the obvious which will encourage people to get legal advice support systems before their concert the home office obviously the conversation will be too late then for those who have died but. because they were told it was talking about missing funerals and weddings and yes because of it how can you possibly call for it's all in a decade of that. it's hard to fall who's accused see been appointed by the government

he's looked into all these make quite a few the victims of the winter scandals from the from down the country just trying to find out that what. rose yeah and it's quite you know it's difficult because each case is different how do you what do you put on someone who's died who started a hypertension over conduct arrest because they were stressed up trying to prove the british how much. not allowed to travel for about ten fifteen years and some people who've not learned to come back into the u.k. at all just just finally what would you say then to trays of a who i'm not sure she actually apologized for what she said in the context of her hostile environment speech she's apologized to the victims of when rush but she's not apologize her policy and her policy has led to the scandal so until she apologizes then that will be part of that plant will always be with her irrespective of this is promised or not that you're going to thank you after the break twenty four hours after a meeting of the e.u. twenty seven to decide on

a final break that agreement we ask or that jim dunlop neoliberalism arguably made the referendum result in a teachable. but to have going on the ground. you know world a big part of the lot and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door. and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. i've been saying the numbers mean something they matter us is over one trillion

dollars in debt more than ten dollars prime tamping each day. eighty five percent of global you want to be rich eight point six percent market saw thirty percent year some with four hundred to five hundred three per second per second and bitcoin rose to twenty thousand dollars. china is building a two point one billion dollar ai industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only numbers you need to remember in one business shows ford to miss the one and only. need to quit sounding.

i'm one of them but i think. they'll all names we're buddies. they. should have been there so. i knew she needed to hear that yeah. whom he could feel that he had to keep. going i may have made a move. to. welcome back leaders of twenty seven e.u. countries met in brussels in the last twenty four hours to determine the future of brics it but how did it come to this a new book aims to dispel the neoliberal myth that it was all about immigration over that to be a push and laying the blame at the feet of neo liberalism itself the book is the

future of everything big audacious ideas for a better world and that's all that joins me now via. skype from australia jim thanks for coming on so you think it's forty is policies not so much the russians or facebook advertising that got britain voting to leave the european union i think without a doubt expand the sign and here where you know we're getting new stories about the why the russians bought affecting you know trying to spread bad news about muslim it in aggression and everything and my argument on that would be you don't need russian books to be spreading that if the machine we've got a government that's doing it at the moment we've got niger news outlets that are very happy to spread misinformation. about muslim immigration etc sark and all of that is. connected to this forty years of

the chinese as an act out of the wire saudis organists under the influence of now liberalism i think and if one aspect of new liberalism is as you show it to be is is the prioritise ation of individual is a particular sort of individual isn't it so want to spend hard to this notion of trade on acquiring to choice in a market plot and i think that's a very limited idea of what freud i'm actually is and the not sure of the now liberal project is that it commodifies things that probably shouldn't because commodified or hadn't traditionally bank modified so everything from education to child care that sort of thing so you end up with you know they're no longer describe to students they're described as customers or as cloth. and that sort of thing and so it's an individual his own that's very much to find within market and i should have this i there's a lot of joy in this book because the joys in fact the last chapter but there's

also obviously a lot of sadness to the graeme felt our inquiry is going on here into the worst how a book fire since the blitz you you talk about it as an example in the context of david cameron former british prime minister telling the u.k. he would kill off the quote from and kill off health and safety culture for good take us through that it's incredible what is not on a not you know you hear it in the context in which he said it and it's you know it's a get tough on red tide and you know let's have smaller government and open up this entrepreneurial spirit that i've been talking about but then you say the actual fix of that in something like the grenfell carol far and it's a tragedy and it's. exactly that pointing back at the start of the controls on things like the cladding but i want buildings i can show that this site that cetra. is inevitably the. these kind of now liberal monserrat whites

and that the national that this is in sing in a fright and is kind of a sick jarkko thing and you accuse the liberal governments of using the public's disorientation to implement what naomi klein has been on this show calls the shock doctrine. yes exactly it's as as it might things worse it uses that on the deteriorating circumstances in order to reinforce the program that i want to do you know it's that old story of never let a disaster go to wise sort of thing so when people are really concerned and put off by the circumstances in which by far themselves that it actually marks the moment if you will and we're saying governments do this you know on a regular basis i think especially around things like national security yeah and that manipulation you go into as regards media which you see as a. construct you compare fox news i'm sure they deny it to to nazi propaganda but

the interesting thing here is you say there's a conscious appeal to smaller audiences on t.v. who have a have a more hardcore philosophy i think it's really interesting are caught. the managing director of fox news at the time talking about that and he mocks the point that you're much better off having a small very dedicated kind of minority ago a group of people who follow you anywhere sort of thing than to have a wishy washy majority in your support and fox news works very much on that. on that national it targets that particular right wing conservative view of in the united states and it's been incredibly successful at doing that and you know it's not just a political propaganda tool doubts definitely that it's also a pretty good business. all in the bus three days tim berners the the greater the world wide web has been complaining about monopoly media coming through the

internet is it would jeremy call been apparently wants to have some control over the multi-billion dollar internet companies you do consider them as public utilities that come to be regulated so much as being nationalized it's absolutely i think there's this real issue is around breaking the law because actually the why the work is advantages in shaping the big in that sense but they've they've really become you know we talk about banks thing but it took it to file i think the face companies becoming as to take place i spoke is becoming too big to bait a product company it's simply too much power in a communications saints in the hands of an individual company and within that company mark zuckerberg and so it's particularly powerful because of the watch on the voting options were within five he really does have alternate control and i just think that's a very dire situation for

a lot prosy to get into yet given democracy is at the heart of the book now what would you do with our bows of lords for instance well that has a lot is a really interesting example of. the section on government that i talk about in the book i put forward this idea that's called. which is the idea of having a non-elected halse on saw talk about it in an australian context for instance perhaps converting asin it to a normal active house so instead of voting for a senator. you would on a random route tied in by service in the in the same way that we do jury judy you would allow ordinary people to have a role within the senate rather than thought to mean it but you know it's kind of occurs to me that you sort of do that already in britain with the with the house of lords it's an unelected behalf the only thing is you restrict it so. but who a lot of it you know it would actually be

a reasonably incremental chimes to. to alter that so the bigger ranch of purple or aladdin not quite i think if this is quite a basis on of the sense of. rage building democracy from the ground up and letting ordinary people into those positions and you think that in this local people's house the as a lloyds would be less likely to say see that fundamental economic statistic g.d.p. as being the best metric to measure civilisation well i think it opens up the opportunity to give people the chance to consider alternatives to things like jaded now judy plays a is a useful measure it's the what it's one of the whys in which the stipe is idle to say itself in a statistical sense you know it reduces the complexity of the economy and society to something that we can hold in the hands of it welcome mat does to geography and that's a useful thing but the trouble with jaded tape is that it only measures

a very particular things and there's a lot of important things that it laid out including most of the informal economy you know so the stuff that we do. in our house also when we volunteer in society etc etc doesn't measure dollars things it doesn't measure the good we do in dollars why is it only measures you know income and growth and that sort of stuff and you know stites. if you don't measure it by don't say it sort of thing so. you end up with a very narrow focus on what counts as important in society what counts as important is the stuff that you measure so it's sort of makes sense for in christ the things that we measure and we're saying you know we're actually saying a number of governments doing this new zealand's experimenting with the happiness index of the moment increasing the runs of things that should occur it looks at italy's experimenting with a. by coal natural hit by coal they saw mischa as well start on starts are looking

at improving the wiat or broadening the why the mission what constitutes. an economy and i think that's a really good thing in the context as you saw with that with the house of lords this is exactly the sort of the bite that you could happen you could have exponents come in and talk to the members of the people's house i doubt this sort of stuff and you know what they might that sort of decision pretty sure fellini was being ironic. but given that climate change given that the climate change blog is taking you seem to be favoring a change from within like like you just said there with that with the people's house you don't accept the real change is only ever really a good. through political violence that is a very strong argument that that's true i think it's probably a slight exaggeration but those really fundamental charges especially around things

like a quality taint to only happen when those who really benefit from the. mismeasure that happen in society when they it's sort of taken at of the question and that you know that tends to page in walls and revolutions and even. you know apply and that sort of thing so when society fundamentally collapses for one reason or another so you know we kind of had to go through two world wars to get to the point in the in the post-war period the fifty's and sixty's where inequality really kind back to a manageable levels and we kind of had you know people's you know i think it's an exaggeration to call it a golden period but it was a it was of the teacher would period of relative quality my argument in the book is that i would prefer not to go through that sort of valmont chimes and so on twenty four art is

a process for which we can avoid that thoughts because you know it's sort of like pretty clear in the book that i think that's the alternative if if we don't mike there's the citizens s.-o. and actually typed it in hand. then we are relating to fault him done well thank you that's it for the show we'll be back on wednesday with coverage of this week's russia britain business forum is about giving them releases stress tests for barclays h.s.b.c. lloyds nationwide and they're in charge of until then keep in touch by social media with you know with a twenty eight years to the day margaret thatcher responsible for widespread financial deregulation that arguably sowed the seeds for the two of you a crash resigned as u.k. prime minister. what is the next step for the saga known as briggs and also is a stage being set to finally end the syrian conflict and why is m i six scrambling

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is but just. when a loved one is murder it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murder i would prefer it be in the death penalty just because i think that's the fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict is found innocent the idea that we were executing innocent people is terrifying who's just new really hasn't been that we're even many a victim's families want the death penalty to be abolished the reason we have to keep the death penalty here is because that's what murder victims' families what that's going to give them peace that's going to give them justice. and we come in and say. not quite you know we've been through this this isn't the way.

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