why didn't you domestic energy source and her ally in the white house appears to be even more proof also if you will i don't believe any president donald trump reacting to his own government's report released friday the report warns climate change could cost the u.s. economy hundreds of billions of dollars and kill thousands of people before the end of the century i've seen that i've read some of that ad by president all trump clearly equivocal about climate change that will be in evidence on monday at the u.n. framework convention on climate change conference cop twenty four joining me now by skype from seoul in south korea as nobel laureate emeritus professor reich one chong former principal advisor on climate change of the un secretary general in south korea climate change and data he's also on the global energy prize in the national award committee establish dr levy me a putin thanks for coming on the program ambassador the u.s. president of trump said in the washington post when you were talking about the atmosphere oceans a very small to the understand the kind of work you've done for the u.n. secretary in the past what i think you know many people have with your views but it

is a collectible uses of the global community the climate change is real in the heavy and. just ahead a report from i.p.c.c. intergovernmental panel on climate change at last month's the. changes getting worse and we don't have to go to the report actually we felt it in or around the world last summer the fact the very interestingly the number one country is suffering for them it's proclaiming change especially war related the answer was united states suffering from hurricanes and they these were to china and japan and also according most the from the climate change impact already and the there's not going to flood in your homework if you look at just the bugs or so while the fire california suffering terribly already so or these kind of climate impact is already that their thought on the war so i don't think go. the dispute of

a i don't think it is an issue of science but it's an issue of politics and some people wants to see the downside of the climate change and some people wants to sit up in the positive side of the because many people believe that climate action is going to damage the economy but there are some other people who are looking into the possibility of a climate in pick who in fact can all put on the court can be for economy innovations and a new market and even economic growth and the employment so you see with the drum administrational busy now dismissing a report of federal agencies with three hundred leading environmental scientists climate scientists contributing to it is it up to brics countries to take the lead you are many countries including especially if you look at the chinese roar of china in our lead there are less money you're going to get and or an economic innovations are also very personally coming from china. and we had the

day of the war believe there are more employers city for your energy and the this northern china india is also a katrina and a brush it is also one of the leaders of energy. also the other countries are just more the us this is not. simply because of who see the more different climate impacts but he's because of the economy case the renewable energy is making because new energy is already approaching the prosperity we have for so if your and them know what they are even getting into the police mature stage where they're either penalty is even comparable or you could also feel so in many parts of the work is you know energy is already appearing as a very serious alternative for renewable fuel and that the i'm getting a new body not in the. electricity at

a cheaper price so at least because of the economy case not because only from the climate protections case state subsidy is heavily involved now in these new projects real keynesianism just explained to me h b d c which is the european union i understand a grant of maybe i don't know up to a half a billion euro as the asian super grid project we don't hear much about these the initiatives here in britain what are they what is h.b.c. ensure some people call it super good either. because it is sending a letter to a city across thousands of kilometers away by cars or several power who has a way to saws or something or miserable some years ago because of the transmission loss where you send electricity you lose electricity so you're because of this kind of losses it was not a measure of a mouth sense to the camera to. record or to chicken out of the community we can send the electricity thousands of there are many many mines in your meaning

in that this if you're first mission mosis so now we have a. tool for our men which means that we can you tell us many of the desert areas and the more areas that are were like a soccer there's are or dancer or even generation on the planes and climbed into a powerhouse and then it can transmit you know energy across the war so this new committee which is called the super can either can play a very interesting role or in stimulate the in the transition from conventional force of fuel economy because a lot of an economy so this is why even some businesses a fifth of the vote is in fact force the company the war there has been promoting their support without you know aids or some of the bunker of japan and the chamomile so to so has been promoting the idea of asia suppose. you don't think any

mongolia to china japan and korea but i am personally now proposing another india are linking china center asia and europe sewell sucre all that which means that the name did as a secret the super leader which means that the central asian countries international do it was the or this countries can become the into any power house or you know energy and then they can ascend large issues huge ball you are ego are signs of that pacific to china japan korea and europe so a history of your very interesting game changer and the paradigm shift over there or i mean just to be clear this is so revolutionary one could foresee solar panel in the sahara desert and the whole of the world's energy needs would be from renewables yes right so for the reason that there's a tech the name of the project was theirs or the tech which was the from saddam

that idea was didn't make the make much progress hoffa only reason was because of the chicken or the problem of long distance first mission but recently he didn't last took the serious now we have solved the pecking order problem and its mission losses this is why now many people are looking into a new opportunity opened by the us actually the security of said the electricity of long distances so it's a matter are just going to shore economy sure but it's a matter of political issue and you can see it in sahara and think there's a political issues. with the is in question but that's why i'm proposing a series called the super committee that can be very interesting valuable and the politically feasible option for countries in europe and foggiest for new energy transition zero new britain forty thousand people may die this year because of the . to get the pollution all we here in britain is that china's the polluting country

beijing and shanghai are terribly polluted cities and that britain is in the lead they're all of this and britain certainly hasn't publicly come out even from the melbourne road and they are so on are many people are or pointing the fingers for the air pollution in china but you're stuck to the north of there chinese government has been thinking were so very decisive actions he did simply because of the huge scale of their pollution issue but very interestingly the trends on chinese air pollution is showing at the moment the people should look at the bright side the symbol lane because chinese governments of very much aware about the issue and they are taking a very decisive actions on it so i am more impressed by it there but it is decisive action which cannot be found in any other country or on the war chinese are showing them or seem pressing the example of a clean energy any of your energy leadership or how they were and that they are

forty percent thought whole thirty year energy best money is coming from china so we're at the see not positive side as well double neutral safina point in their pollution at the corner stage so the long run chinese really make a very impressive improvement if it's really be fastest in the history of humor kind of development or just very briefly now perhaps even more fundamental than all of that is the ideas that they you wrote about in your greed growth concept we've heard a lot from the bank of england about brics if here your economic modeling software would have to be very different presumably than the bank of england right now we may see some of those arms here who certainly don't subsidise like your green growth concept and it's briefly planet earth yeah i've been proposing the agreement of say the year which was inspired by professor paul yuki's and a lot of the on imperial college it and the idea is that we. can shift our

expertise. to air pollution and that's a resource consumption then we can have a bubble which means that we can reorder a mission and we can stimulate the economy drops uses of the teacher has been promoted by many scholars and the idea is to realize who stole the year so where their proper or shifting or reform structures then i think our argument is that we can hear or we can achieve a lot to addition as well as job creation and economic growth so many governments that is they've just creature needs a lot more priority and i think we're actually form a group actually for i think we can do it professor reich on junk thank you well u.k. prime minister's questions this week wasn't so much about saving the planet from catastrophe with ready solutions as impending failure of tourism is defacto minority government and the brics it would following a t.v.

debate between jeremy corbin in the prime minister but a shadow hung over parliament in britain death a friend of going underground the world war two veteran harry has this myth the whole house wish to pass our condolences as well to the family and friends of harry leslie smith given the late veteran's damnation of to raise amazed policies the favorite to be britain's next prime minister was perhaps predictably less muted i also misspeak i want to pay tribute to my friend harry learns the smith. harry passed away early this morning in canada harry also served in the war he was an irrepressible campaigner for the rights of refugees for the welfare state of raw emotional health service he was passionate about the principle of health care for all as a human right we thank you harry for his life and his work will be paying our own tribute by repeating going underground's interviews with the tireless and in your liberalism campaign or in a future edition of the show here is the world war two veteran on seventy years since. v.-day the government seem to feel that austerity is the only way to.

resurrect a good standard of living and it certainly isn't because it's just making more and more poor people. it's. it's frightening. i don't what the answer is. no politician. i am history and in my book tried to describe to people what it was like and how it could be again unless we. were to bring god against it after the break as the e.u. gets more economic war with moscow we talk to russia's presidential commission and russia's trade on voice of the u.k. about british business in the largest country and that's all coming up in part two

of going on the ground. they put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president and you. want. to go right to the pros this is what the before. can't be good. i'm interested always in the waters of our. friendship. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy. let it be an arms race. feeling dramatic developments only. i don't see how that strategy will be

successful very. time to sit down and talk. welcome back u.k. back ukrainian president petro poroshenko doesn't only want martial law he's today urging nato nations like britain to send warships to the sea of to provide security again. russia but here in london the talk at this week's russian british business forum in the queen elizabeth the second center media partnered by r.t.e. has been forging closer ties between russia and the u.k. we spoke to russian trade on voice to britain boris abramov who with more than twenty years experience in shaping russian u.k. can only cooperation advocates for a new era of trade in the face of to raise him a sanctions trade on boy i suppose your message here is that we shouldn't always believe what we're reading in the newspapers and the things aren't as bad between london the most go as you wait think from the media yes actually we said paradox

the contrast between the political climate and the real development of trade relations between our two countries in the first nine months of this year we saw an almost twenty nine but some groove in comparison with the same period last year and we expect that by the end of the year we will exceed below fourteen billion us dollars in trade to know or between our two countries but we see that the reason for this is that actually the main obstacle for the business development is uncertainty what we see in the british situation but in our by little release and everything is absolutely clear. called just era in by little political relations but these sanctions regime or all the declarations made by the political leaders the

set the rules they said the limits but if you don't exceed the limits everything is free and everything is available for all businesses in both countries because it would be at the. business u.k. business forum you said that the u.k. is one of russia's main trade partners i thought it was all brics that with the russian federation. no home. britain is a very large market market for their russian exports. of course the majority of the line portion of russian export which it goes to britain is kabul's. still largely depend in our bilateral trade relations on oil and gas but i've also always see the increase of non

resource non and energetic exports from russia this means that there are areas of common interests which can drive our belittle trade does breaks it he says it creates uncertainty is that a problem when being trade on voice not very much because now russia is out of e.u. and britain will. exit saw we will be part of not the britain can do any negotiations as we know so we think this is will create an opportunity for both countries britain we will have to search for new markets. russia is a free markets that britain can not ignore but what relations do you have

as a trade ovoid with the trade department here i mean this is jury mind you of the context when the head of the british army doesn't think the head of the british army is saying russia poses a greater threat to the safety of british subjects than i says they have and you have a relationship with the trade to profiteer this is they have the burdocks or all of their total data reality yes i think they have the there is too cute to believe dialogue with russia is more practical for example it was a couple of years ago because britain after the break as it will have to form new relations with or all countries of the war including russia. these means that the dialogue should be continued and even with russia the main.

he. will walk board of the british the ministry to promote bilateral trade but as an envoy you have to be very aware that sanctions new sanctions come up every other day frightening investment and bilateral trade yes. political climate is all of this is. very disappointing but. the business relations they are talking about very create things about goods about services about payments. these dialogue bit in business of all of the countries is not politicized and you see trading increasing with britain and the european union at the same to you. show with the whole world so do you see kind of irony that a british business trying to invest in say

a russian chinese corporate corporation business somehow sanctions going to affect british business through that way and it's bad for british business and the sanctions are very clear if you see at this fear. in store. if you walk in the digital economy reveal business medicine education everything is. not only a lot but it is supported by a british government and the russian trade over thank you thank you very much well of russia's trade on voice of britain think sanctions don't have to be a deal breaker even after to raise them a bax more economic warfare that the e.u. council this month what about russia's characterization as a math state that's what i asked russian presidential commission

a teacher of at this week's london conference presidential commission that russia in this country in the media is characterized as being a mafia state how can a small business written above you with a new york doing business in the twenty years ago when they first came to london and i was a businessman and i made first my joint venture with my british partners but look what happened since then all the british big companies brands and the russian they all invested during or since ninety's to russia russian people i hear everywhere i mean that they educate their children here they come with investment and restate they did live here so and now again twenty years past now where you get the much at the macro level do you think if the i.m.f. was still running russia or they would be. they should fear the press. to some

extent yes but what happens is m.f. is still an english don't you think that we don't need their credit because we are quite wealthy we don't have any debt anymore to anybody in the world but the economical policies high interest rate hard financial policies the world changed from that i mean he wanted to easing is the main word and economical policies of britain united states you were china or japan but russia is still very hard on the financial policy and they love it and international monetary fund in the world bank they love it but usually good usually when they ever have that's what i'm giving head skeletor of the suspicious because we are offering another economical policies to russia q.e. for russia but if you're a small to medium sized enterprises here in britain you're going to be thinking not just of. your use of chemical weapons to kill people here you're going to be

thinking about you have to know people in russia or in government these big monopolies they connected to government say that actually there is this free trade free business negotiation environ of course small businesses are more influenced russia is not very developed in so called economy of. small things nails hammers furniture. wood processing plastic processing all these things which small and medium businesses the g twenty is going are surprised that the british government is not fostering closer ties with russia in a push brics is a future. british government is some kind of an in a narrow corridor or they made by themself and their politics and they don't. think about in an economical way about business opportunities. look at years

saying this guy is really a business i mean he's protecting business anyway so business is important and when britain is ignoring a possibility even more putting more problems to british businesses for the future because of the political reasons i think it's not very waits for the british government would say that's because its moral stand on the world stage really very important there even publicly endorse the chinese built in a road initiative it didn't go up publicly even to say that the british government way i mean they ignore it want but it's a big wage and then went through i mean you can be in good relations with china on bad relations with china but you can't ignore what and then they're doing and this expansion. special with this.

initiative and it's not bad and we see that cheney is bringing more working places to do countries who are now mostly exporting their people and immigrants to europe. if they build more working places there at their homes it is the real way to solve the problem of immigration now to europe so what does britain risk if it continues to politicize the business and i mentioned economically it's a big risk because if you think only about some it's good to have their principles but you know principles first of all they have to be proven but if you don't consider the economical. issues if you don't consider them how your people will work and when they will work and where they will receive their celebes in the

future the principle will not work but if you think given that that's the threat millions will things will improve they're bound to improve relations i am what i am and i am differently. saying that there is no way of confrontation and they would not think more their financial and economical issues is one thing but the other thing is that there is no way politically for that because the world is so small the world is. from one side is global we all live in the same globe and small and. can be ruined in one go and in that sense we have to think mentally and worldwide principles it has to be a steady growth because the growth of democracy comes out of the grove over the middle class of the strength of the middle class middle class and it actually is not so

strong at the moment there is. to make it go to. making music on the russian mob will based but based on private initiative competition and small and medium nothing small but maybe big but very competitive businesses presidential commission thank you russian presidential commission of aristide's off speaking to me there on the fringes of this week's russian british business forum and that's it for the show will be back on monday to investigate the fact the u.k. backed alleged chemical attack on syria this week the brave hearted successions star run caulks patron about the russian backed russian film week until then people judged by social media will see only thirty four years to the day of india's bhopal disaster which killed or injured more than six hundred thousand activist group yes men would later false be claimed the dow chemical company had responsibility on the u.k. state mandated b.b.c.

. survival guide just a single malt and a start simply adding all these are. you sure you don't get it. back to. repatriations or get the rest in seven years. philip a separate kaiser report. us veterans who come back from war often tell the same stories. were going after the people who were killing civilians they were not interested in the wellbeing of their own soldiers either they're already several generations of them so i just got this memo from the circular defense office says we're going to act and destroy the government and

seven countries in five years americans pay for the wars with them money others with their lives if we were willing to go into harm's way and willing to risk being killed for a war then surely we can risk some discomfort or uneasiness for us. who should starve if you do this cuz we're rican. chancellor merkel runs has said we have built up a lot of riches between germany and europe and russia. through story of bridge truth is quite easy and very fast. but to loop through a whole lot of. when a loved one is murder it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murder i would

prefer it be in the death penalty just because i think that's a fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict is found innocent the idea that we were executing innocent people is terrifying and those just know it hasn't and that we're even many victims' families want the death penalty to be abolished the reason we have to get down here is because that's what murder victims' families what that's going to give them peace that's going to give them justice and we come in and say. not quite enough we've been through this this isn't the way. thank you thank you kind of the kind.