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international market no doubt these industries are polluting your dissin plane ignored my. mother. and mother long into the last day into this. police fired tear gas and medics protesting in paris again on monday that's just president micron is booed and jeered while surveying the aftermath of the weekend's carnage in the capital. oh. i. russian t.v. reporters accused of spying in the u.k. the military and media are following what was called his suspicious behavior
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outside an army facility. thanks for joining us tonight international law from moscow just five am here in the russian capital of bengal holkins wherever you are welcome to the program. now police in paris have used tear gas against medics who join the wave of protests that have gripped the french capital healthcare workers angered at financial reforms to medical transport which they claim could threaten the viability of some ambulance companies here you can see some of the pictures that came out of paris on monday the medics were using their sirens on emergency lights to attract attention to their cause students also join the protests they've blocked access to dozens of high schools across france the action follows a weekend that witnessed the most violent riots in paris in half a century time or led the president to cancel a. visit to serbia in order to hold talks with his cabinet or french authorities
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are revealing enormous losses from those three weeks of yellow vest protests shot profits for down fifty percent the protesters have been blocking roads that's cost transport companies around four hundred million euro another four million euros worth of damage was done to paris just on saturday alone as demonstrators ran riot smashing property across the capital yellow vests representatives have so far refused to attend talks with the prime minister that were originally shows up for tuesday shala dubin scheme has this report. as you can see this is sounding there so iran say it's just on the plus telecom cold as you go towards the national assembly the thing that they're unhappy about is a change in france it was implemented two months ago whereby hospitals now decide which ambulance service in france will collect patients and the drivers are concerned but could threaten their jobs in the future so you could put in this law
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will kill all small ambulance companies and big corporations will take over smaller companies like ours have invested a lot of money will disappear overnight no one will help us we're staying here as long as necessary we have nothing to lose anymore loser could there where health company secretaries will come to support ambulance workers because if this all continuous will lose all jobs to there is less work for us every single day hospitals duty even have the right to call us and give us work the prime minister the governments will do nothing for us nothing that leaving us in the galley without work the ambulance workers will lose their jobs patients will lose out now this is just the latest in a stream of protests that we've been seeing him frogs that sickly over the last few weeks out with a very visible movement all but those you made sure they've been up to three weekends on the farm now as we've heard just sending into chaos in paris i don't know psychos protest the sets of kids who knew that some of described the violent
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spook irish on saturday june buildings don't cause their feet to smash shop saluting by some of the worst for you from the scene since nine to sixty eight. of the five. the food. the food. the food. we were going to. present marco returns home to france also the g twenty summit in argentina on sunday morning and he went to assess some of the damage and the role
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since gives him a warm welcome. to . you know. you well present marco and also held an emergency meeting on sunday with members of the cabinet he's just the prime minister with the holding discussions of political leaders and those you measure movement to see how they can appease those are protests we'll source the end soon all be in syria minister to make sure that the security services are ready for any further mayhem and it's also be new to the possibility of the frog's to declare a new state of emergency just a new iraq to the last one ended well you all this you lose your was there a movement a social movement that started just a few weeks ago
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a new city over the high cost of taxes on fuel here in france but since then they've progressed to being a social movement they're unhappy with things such as the high unemployment rate here in france as well as the high cost of living and they sent to continue their protests against another demonstration expected to take place on saturday he in paris. the answer is that you have to be able to talk to the protesters they want taxes to be imposed on them that was the reason for the protest the way out is to drop them from our country is used to holding talks with conflicts may happen and you have to know. to manage them the government has to make immediately the necessary steps to get talks with the started. the british army has issued a top level security alert over a russian t.v. journalist the u.k. military and media accuse him of spying after he was set of beings acting suspiciously outside an army base this is how the journalist himself explained what
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happened that day. i would very much want to know what exactly happened we're being accused of espionage while we were just doing our job we didn't break any u.k. laws on november twenty second and i remember that day perfectly well has been mentioned in the mail on sunday article we went to the military base which is one hundred kilometers from london that's location of brigade seventy seven we did a package about it we drove by the base stopped approached the security guards i introduced myself presented my id they took pictures of my documents my car then we recorded my piece to camera we recorded it on a professional video camera we didn't try to get inside the base something claimed by the mail on sunday we made our intentions clear that we wanted to film outside and that's exactly what we did instead we being branded spies. the journalists presented to one of the security guards were later leaked to the media
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about the spies the government memo saying for internal use only. look at the defense ministry sent out a warning which contains my photograph i.d.'s number and my car plates these are the documents i presented to the security guards at the base that's when they took pictures when these pictures were put in the memo how they got leaked to the press i have no idea but what's important is that in this memo if you look closely there's a note for internal use only despite that this secret memo is now all over the media to more serious here is the bureau chief of russia's channel one in london and he was doing a story about the seventy seventh brigade which is sort of the cyber warfare unit for the british military and considering that the british government spends quite a lot of time talking about the so-called russian threat and the threat from hybrid warfare and russian reporters interested in this brigade is pretty much south explanatory the russian embassy is also upset that the reporters personal details.
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have been published online it is offensive that the personal data of russian journalists including their ids in the license plate of their car were made public it in danger security of russian citizens let alone the fact that it's a blatant violation of the norms generally recognized in civilized countries and this wasn't an isolated news report in fact the stories really snowballed it was printed originally yesterday but it's been reprinted by most of the newspapers here in the u.k. today and now even the defense secretary gavin williamson has made a statement about it he's called on members of the public to report any suspicious activity outside of british military bases and allow me to add a little legal disclaimer strictly speaking and i've just consulted our media lawyer about this it isn't against the law to film on public land even if it is
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just outside a military base many a journalist has done it certainly i have no one ever leak to my press credentials or accuse me of being a russian spy in the process but there is an important caveat here in terms of the law the military can take action against anyone acting suspiciously outside a british military base. we sent an inquiry to the defense ministry there's a form on their website but we didn't get any response filming near the base is not illegal it's a public area of public land you don't need permission to film there you need permission to get inside talk to the stuff we didn't record our interaction with the security personnel we didn't try to penetrate the base or b.b.c. correspondent did the exact same thing as us it was broadcast and no one thinks that punishing him there's nothing illegal and yet this story printed in the mail on sunday yesterday had the headline russian t.v.
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spies a court at top secret. army base now first of all it's not top secret you can get to its location pretty much very easily but with two clicks on the internet the article also goes on to feature an academic who warns that all reporters working for russian news channels are potential spies which is a claim that frankly i find absolutely terrifying looking at it from where i am and given how tense relations between the u.k. and russia are at the moment the most suspicious thing about this reporter is that he is a russian citizen working for a russian news channel a political commentator john gaunt told us he thinks the security scare was linked to the poisoning of the script poles russian journalist monster a story about one of our bases that's the story did it again no t.v. show is credentials yes but his credentials for we know were there you re said he
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was obviously is just nonsense i just do not understand why our government want to carry on with this this tit for tat nonsense it's all tied in with the script was isn't it we know this is all tied in with the fire that we haven't got conclusive evidence either way it's just part of the anti war russia rhetoric and i for one as a british citizen and frankly fed up of it frankly fed up to the back teeth of it are one jaw jaw with the russians and i'm sure most people want that rather than war war whether it's for folks cold war like this or whether it's military lead is just nonsense. a radio stations across the united states have been dropping the christmas classic baby it's cold outside from play this following a backlash from listeners critics are complaining that the song in which a man attempts to persuade a woman to spend the night with him is not in keeping with more values and also flies in the face of the hash tag me to movement. their head looks well no
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no no i'm there i'm all very early but i'm going to say that i want to have some supper and he might already have it on of. the truck was first recorded for the nine hundred forty nine hollywood film neptune's daughter requip it became a hit winning an oscar for best original song the following year since then it's been covered by tens of artists but me too activists say the lyrics more malloy's manipulative and coercive behavior others claim though that critics misunderstand the song they argue that to be consistent lots of others would also have to be dropped from radio play lists. maybe it's cold outside is basically date rape song i'm glad people are finally realizing this here's the n.f.l. reminder that babies called outside is basically a day trip song they want play babies called outside because it implies rape but
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they can play this horrible rap music that talks about sex drugs shooting people at cetera these are the holiday songs must also be removed is there a fancy fairs well i saw my make you see santa klaus' subject to monitor soft core porn white christmas racist santa maybe gold digger black male. well let's go live now we're joined by legal analyst jennifer breeden and former candidate for new york city council miami. sorry from support of the house spec mitsu movement thanks for joining us both good to have you on the program morning if i can go to you first of all removed when i was in you need quite a few years back there was another song that got banned from campus blurred lines by robin thicke maybe you remember that as well. this really isn't a new thing is it sort of the bombing of songs because of lyrics that people find offensive but this particular song i mean it's from a different era it's
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a christmas classic what particularly do you find offensive about it. i mean for me personally. i do think what is kind of going on it is a little bit of overkill. i do think that people are interpreting this as a date rape song and i think it's easy to interpret as this. but when i've actually done some research it was a song written by frank loesser from guys and dolls he was the composer is a broadway show tune. it's i believe it really is sort of is this kind of. flirty sort of like romantic encounter between a man and a woman. at the same time what i think is so fascinating is that it's really reflecting kind of what is going on in our society because you can take this song you can either interpret it as being this sort of flirty encounter that's very
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innocent or you could also take it. as that it is a date rape song and for me what is the most interesting thing is it's reflecting what is going on in our society and that's something that you can't really ignore and i think women really from the need to movement and women everywhere have really wanted a voice i think often you know even like the e r a hasn't been passed and i think you know equal pay i think women are still fighting for justice. so it makes me think if this is if this is something that is creating such an uproar we can't ignore it and also maybe it's reflecting that things need to change and that. you know maybe maybe things have maybe christmas carols also. has to evolve with our society you spoke of evolution with society jennifer i mean should we acknowledge that times have changed things that were acceptable to all parents to our
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grandparents you know many traditions you know black blackface in films and music in this case just don't fit in with today's modern values and how society has involved largely for the betterment progressed. exactly and i think that's that's one of the main problems here is that we're seeing all this hype now and we're seeing a lot of it i mean in fact one of the recent polls of this station itself which is an ohio actually poll that about ninety percent of the listenership didn't approve of getting the song off the radio and so while it has hit the media and yes i mean we'll have stories that will hit the media and it will gain fire i don't think that it's that important of an issue right now and i'm just talking about this. song or or going into some of these songs especially these these known christmas songs for example we're looking at a lot of the people don't even understand why what the song is about and we're having to kind of explain no what's actually about this is actually bashes i want to be seen and she's afraid of actually seeing and so the fact that we don't even
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know what this song is about yet we're dedicating so much of our time energy and resources into it i think is general is frankly a waste of time i mean i'm not part of the me too movement but i do believe it stands for something important and there are a lot more there are a lot of important issues right now and when we focus on songs like this and trying to get it out i mean we're painting a message that means who has just become unhinged in going after these christmas songs from the one nine hundred forty s. which yes was a different era but frankly nobody nobody has cared about and so the meter movement wants to stay wants to stay current and relevant and i think that we need to focus on the main issues the biggest issues that truly are a hindrance and stay away maybe from some of the lesser things like some of these christmas songs good morning i mean how do you respond because i mean how many people do you think are actually offended by this sort i mean this poll is jennifer mention is people have responded to the poll appears that just ninety percent of people think the song should continue to be played. i mean it's interesting because
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like i hear both sides i hear that people are very very upset about it and then i also hear you know what you just mentioned what is interesting about that song is that it is a woman being put into a situation where she is saying no and i think most people expect in this day and age now with everything that has happened that no does mean no and i think even in the situation where the song where let's say it's innocent. let's say there's no sinister motives it's still i think very uncomfortable. you know for a woman in that situation and it makes it sort of makes. you think. you know would a liberated woman be in that situation it's also interesting i just remember. molly ringwald just recently came out and talked about the breakfast club and there was a scene in the breakfast club where i guess one of the other main characters
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a little got her dress and she sort of denounce that scene and she got a lot of backlash and people were like you know that's a movie that you made money off of and you did this scene and how can you how can you like you know walk back from it. and i think you have to ask yourself would a liberated woman be in that situation. a teenager or a young woman where somebody is looking up her skirt so i thought that was something very very interesting where you have people that are even now in this day and age walking back and you know baby people have to walk back i mean things are changing and i think we have to change with the time and also i think there's a lot of outrage i think women are really really angry. so. the argument that maybe this is a little bit overkill. i think. you have to look at that and see kind of what is behind that and what's behind it is you know women want relief women who want change and i think it's important and i think women want their
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voices heard been reading into the lyrics of the song and also some some of. it is have been i've been reading about this it's very interesting to see the different take small as you said it's really a question of interpretation is that because one of you know it was also. it's interesting it could be taken it could be taken in different ways i mean i think if you're. a survivor of rape you're going to interpret it that way as a date rape song. it's interesting that it is you know everybody's own interpretation i mean there's not just one interpretation i think people can take a song like this and you can interpret so i think most people are going to study that it's from the one nine hundred forty s. and you know you could make an argument this is that this is a woman who several to celebrating for the actuality and it's really a flirting again and i missed it and i understand and i do understand both sides of
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this argument i just see really the need to focus on on some of the bigger issues i understand that they're women that are survivors of rape and i do understand the argument i understand the side where we have to look at everything we have to understand because some way if women are truly angry about this and then there must be something to it but at the same time you know i want to see a woman who can who can stand strong who can look at this and say you know if that's not going to bother me i know what my boundaries are i know when to leave and i know anything like you know i know i know what my no mean row and that i'm going to leave in that situation and it's not going to be an old song that does that and so that's what i want to see become of women not this not this anger and i so i think for me i feel like it's almost a step back all this rage and anger of. i want to see women going you know what we recognize the cultural differences are back then in those in that time that kind of sucks for back then but think of where we are now and we're going to have a voice and it isn't just banning it from this ratio of people like i was already i mean look at the lyrics until this debate came out. and also what's interesting
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is you know if women really truly are i mean i do agree a lot with you know what. i'm sorry what your name jennifer. what with the other person is saying but. at the same to jennifer they did. at the same time you know if women are truly inspired to do something about the me too movement they should join a group they can collectively organize people in their workplace you know yes there is many other kinds of effective organization that you can do to help me to move on if so i definitely agree with it but i do i do think it's very interesting to have that much outrage over a song i mean it's really telling about our culture it is a moment i think it's essential that we have another question because i mean i know we're talking specifically about the me too movement here and it's linked to this
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particular song but i mean other people are saying we saw some of the tweets earlier they're all songs out there for example that a full of references to vonage killing totally rugs while people look i don't know where is the law in here whether we're going to i'm going to be one of these other songs i agree. i totally agree i totally agree and that's that sort of. you know strange sort of conflict in our society and i totally agree with you i don't i don't know why there isn't that kind of outrage about that but i keep on coming back to you know what you know what is the face of liberation you know what does that look like and you know i do think that you know you know maybe society does have to change and. look at what's happening so but i think it's very interesting to have that much outrage over a christmas song i think is really fascinating and i don't think it can be ignored
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mona just want to jump in with a question to jennifer again and just coming up with asians in the various angles people all look at the song and as you say you didn't look at the lyrics of the song with us so i wasn't familiar but a little bit of you know reading up the last the last hour of so one commentator here is saying this the whole situation here the woman being in the situation of the stuff she's saying. i'm quoting here it's a joke about how she's perfectly sober and about consensual sex and she has to use these laws for plausible deniability about the neighbors thinking this is the thinking what's in this drink because she's living in a society women supposed to have sexual agency do you agree with that interpretation the song jennifer what are your thoughts. i mean i do again we're coming now and i know the beta issue i never even thought about before this i mean frankly when i heard this song for the last several years i've just thought of the movie elf because you know that's that's where i've heard the song the most so now
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i'm thinking about disobey these interpretations and it's starting to make sense to me that oh that does make sense you know and women have been in the situations where it's you're not supposed to do that and i think that's an actual another important distinction specifically in the u.s. where a man can spend a night with a woman he's a hero and everybody else a woman spends a night with a man unmarried and she's a slut frankly and that's how it's painted and so there is that that a distinction within us culture that does need to change but if you look at the song from that aspect what would be harmful to women would actually it's actually have highlighted an issue that women have struggled with for a long time that maybe sometimes we joke about but not and and so if you look at it from that angle i don't think i don't think we need to be shutting down this song or trade it off i think is important we start highlighting like hey this is true women have to think about this stuff the guy doesn't care because he's going to be praised for more going to be chastised and so that is kind of an important thing i think we should actually highlight it more rather than trying to just shut it down . yeah questions of to both of us that i mean. as someone who has closed the
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door of kind of hyper sensitivity and extreme awareness probably of women's rights or harassment of other issues as well would not be easy to find scenes or roles or lyrics in any sort of film which somebody could find offensive i mean does that doesn't mean we're going to pretty much every song film or play from forty's from going to europe. or banning these songs isn't going to make the behaviors go away it's not going to make sexual abuse sexual assault and sexual harassment go away in this culture i mean this is a very deep issue and that's why i think our time and resources are best spent and actual ways in and who knows maybe we're still trying to figure that out as a culture as a society i don't think banning the music and going around and spending all this time their resources banning songs is going to make this kind of behavior stop is something that is widespread and it's something that we truly as a society need to tackle and need to focus on because right now i think we're kind
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of eyes and a mark and i want to ensure that the future for my daughter myself is better yet perhaps but. i do think everybody has their own way in voicing their outrage. you know you know people that normally don't protest are protesting nowadays they've sort of like found that. but you know if somebody is upset about something and they want to tweet about it and they want to have a voice and you know maybe it's a christmas song but you know what maybe that leads to other things you know we have to let people voice their outrage. no matter what in whatever whatever shape or form you know yes i would like to see people join more groups collectively organize for the meta movement. you know take those steps you know to you know have that sort of political agency but listen if somebody wants to tweet or get involved that way. and have
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a voice i think that's fine too but it is everyone's choice of but mani do you agree with what jennifer was saying a little bit of fun astound you correctly jennifer here that going off to buying you know a christmas song from launching forty's does this detract from the more serious the proof you see here that you know people should be devoting their energy to tackle do you feel this is a destruction that simply been blown of proportion but on proportion by social media. i mean listen what again like i said before would i like to see people. you know get more involved in you know perhaps a more substantive way. you know through collective organization through perhaps working on a particular campaign perhaps organizing a protest or rally in their in their town or city. make alliances with other two groups yeah of course i would but i do think that you can't squash people's voices. and i think it's
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really really fascinating i think people are angry and i agree with that idea that we're going to wash people's i raised and the voices need to read it is another form of spoken yeah they need to speak out about that we are running out of time but i also do think that. really stories are for growing up time just for one fun a very quick question if something does come out in your car in your house this christmas will you be leaving all turning it off well actually i have to say something before i leave it on are you all know that we want to see him play. i mean. i'm also a professional figure skater i have actually performed through to that song. skating on synthetic ice at the trump taj mahal right on top of the desert so when you call me for this interview i'm like oh my gosh talk about like all these coincidences but i've performed to.

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