with that the plane. would come back to the place story you have to see. the. movie. hello and welcome across town for all things are considered peter lavelle the yellow that's shaped france to work or is it time to go speaking of time to go with the brags that vote looming is to rest of may's time up to also mike pompei oh wants to remake the world.

cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark sloboda he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have dimitri bobbitt she's a political analyst we spoke make international and we have these and he is a professor at the higher school of economics as well as author of that it can be of western civilization and resurgence of russia or a german cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate i want to talk about the yellow vests first had their fourth weekend in the spotlight here i want to go to paris right now i want to go to. morrow he is the founder of the center of political strategic analysis strap poll. that day welcome thank you for being with us ok after four weekends of this in the spotlight. we haven't seen much of the french president or heard much how has this group of protests or riots however you want to describe it changed france over the last month or so. you know actually at the last round. we called these

protests in france is very important because last week momo core give up on all taxes promised to the french or the season but no the people has to go do the porters because they want to leave and it's a very big problem for most of legitimacy because since the beginning it was a scene that is a french election actually years a big leg of legitimacy because it came through. really should all and who enter during the last eighteen months is it was anybody do creates the legitimacy he didn't have the beginning of the presidency and because many of the scandals the french people when he was also country. he said that for instance there is no friend in. reforms but what is only seeing you did was increase in taxes

so is no more men but actually if you wasn't it wasn't it you made up all ok but you are right stay with us here glenn the office of the french presidency is very powerful it was made that way intentionally as exactly a had to say it's a question of legitimacy crisis of legitimacy where do we go from here it's a good question i think for micron like he was very late and this is. more or less almost as an independent into this election so he was anointed by the media and the power. and i agree with what is said on that point because he was very much this very charismatic investment banker or the media hailed this you know defender of europe and especially europe. believed it needed a defender because we had the rise of populists so when mccomas able to win they were actually recognized as he was the bork against the populists. again the

problems from the global financial crisis was never sold. i think it's best was able to temporarily delay what have to happen which is an upset in the french political system as well as people do want real changes so you know what is interesting you know more is that it wasn't political parties that were. pushing this forward it wasn't trade unions it was no it wasn't institutions it was the lack of functioning institutions that have brought people out into the street and high prices of course the lack of funds having institutions and mccraw and neoliberal globalist policies. approval rating has fallen from some fifty five percent down the eighteen percent while polls also show that sixty eight to seventy two percent of the french people support the protests that the media is trying to create a myth as violent and mobs and so on when we see clearly that it is you

and fire men and students out there protesting and it's not just in paris it's all across all across the country and they're not just protesting the fuel taxes and mccrone personally but they're also protesting very specific thing other things in his policy like his removal of the wealth tax with one hand in the hands an extra fuel tax to the working class and the poor or the other hand he removes taxes from the ultra wealthy and corporations so that we're saying is that if you know if you're for saving the environment let the working class pay for it well absolutely he was called the president of the reach of he is speeches last year he made a scandalous remark he said that at the train stations train stations how wonderful places because they you could meet people who succeed. and the people who are

nothing so obviously the people who succeed at the people and the people who are now things are. going on where you are again here and instead of let them eat cake if they don't want to pay my fuel taxes let them buy expensive electric cars this is exactly what their european press has the right and the bond market on the end of that he was mistaken what bit of cave like marie antoinette even though mario thought that never actually say at this rate it was ascribed to her they said what historic i mean let me go back to exhibit exactly a maybe it's too early to say here we don't want to jump the gun but i mean if there is a crisis of legitimacy with the president of france where do we go from here i mean if he won't have the moral authority he has the legal authority let's not deny that but if he doesn't have the moral authority would he be doing the country a favor by leaving. that to point to is a very strong institution strong constitution for the president so actually even if

he is not popular it can stand to the end. but the point is no easy you want to be able to take any decision because you get you have to understand are people going on the street and started their walk as they work all the rest of the week so it's working people ready to no one wanted to go to the cinema so all def time to settle there on the transit easy and to work and to go out of the country and as you say not only in paris but in all the big city well something very important up and yesterday. actually the minister of interior you sent a main of the french. troops to paris but the rest of the country was free so in a with a boost thrown in stronger that it used to be the most three weeks in model. in an event and you know it was more it's more of the. really the security systems french

system is a little bit. actually much who can't know more. than two countries maybe even propose a. change of prime minister what you want anderson because people don't want mccoy and you know. you started out by saying this is a protest against new liberalism and we've seen this of it as part of what i know it's a bread and butter issue too i mean i don't deny that obviously here but i mean. the french elites should have seen something like this coming here i mean it's because it's it's affecting all of europe here we'll talk about brings it in a couple of minutes here but this is it's not just a protest against mccrone even against the french elites it's a protest against ideology i would say yeah i mean and we are i think on the record as having you know predicted this divide because it's not just the protesters on

the far right that are protesting it's the protesters on the far left this is the. pen melancholy on forty one percent of the country during the first you know round of the french vote we're still playing out the aftermath of this french election here and moving forward the people having voted for the other neoliberal central globus to stop le pen but you know they've seen the same failed policies from saar cosey from hollow on sunday or right center left right fail again and again and we're going to see this play out into the next election and it is more than just a french issue we've talked about this right left and friends it's not just in france these yellow vest protests have spread there in belgium there the netherlands there was an attempt to storm the e.u. parliament in brussels that you know that you know all. for the weekend so you know

what we've seen is still going to play out over the you know the days in the months of that even if mccraw and eighty nine thousand stormtroopers called the end of the street managed to beat back and repress the french people with. this new way they're going to fuel it it's all it won't go ahead i also think it's been fueled a little bit him walking this back again it's obvious that this fuel tax was a mistake to begin with but by suspending it i think that for the people who were just marching the streets for very limited goals they might go back to their houses for the people who have broader goals like in unseating. pushing for huge reforms in france for them i think they recognized. that the can actually make real change if they continue this force so it might intensify conflicts i mean if anything if something like this was happening for example in russia i think that by now the americans and germans would be handing out cookies you know clinton which

victoria nuland you know or maybe you know maybe assad should be arming the moderate moderates the moderate rebels. you know we've had this going on in france we're going to talk about briggs that mistake when are the european elites going to wake up that their vision for the world isn't working for the majority of the people you know you are absolutely right because it's it's not the first protest actually their. electoral protests you know when people just didn't vote for the referendum suggested by the e.u. that you failed in france in holland in other places and now look they're liberal globalists they have lost all the charismatic leaders hillary clinton can hold on there can you and i say like you know if you examine the last thirty seconds go to you in this block here are you optimistic that the vest or a permanent fixture in political. life in france that actually that's the point

that there is no political party is a can be pretend to be the leader of the. west. and that's probably a good thing yes actually because as soon as he would be a leader it would be to the artist exactly and we need to continue learning that you know what. time was the moment and. we'll it's most again i want the president of the function ok moscow ok mccomas go to leave it on that point at exactly eight thank you very much for joining us here we're going to go to way short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion some real news stay with arkie.

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ok we just finished discussing the yellow vests where do we go from here i think we go to germany ok. i'll give america a seat position of the leader of their. christian democratic union which still calls itself a center right party i don't know what we should call you know no evil you know we knew for a very long time and one of the most most we careen topics united talked about over the years is redefining our political language and i think we're at a juncture we conceptualised absolutely well as we established during all previous segment look at the ultra liberal allusion everybody lost in the united states merkel is leaving in germany it's clear that she will stop to be a child so maybe when that two thousand and twenty one to resume is clean into power but she may be removed in the near future in that you were gay we're going to

talk about her you know what is interesting is that you know talking about the yellow vests and all of these are anti establishment movements in europe even the new york times that you looked. for the first time to recognize the driver sure. what happened in france and here is what they wrote these movement of you know will be asked is not focusing on racial migration and those issues don't get beyond yellow would least least of complaints it's not led by a single firebrand their leader nationalism is not on the gender and of course so all the author of the article is at a loss usually when something happened in europe they said it was crazy nationalist poorly or the russians or the last really. didn't you read max boot in the washington post he clearly says that this is not the french people reacting out of anger policies this is russian trolls on face well this is an absolute stated when you know it's row moved into its facebook itself that has caused those there to

know that london times russian facebook is is fueled in french broadcasts this is the headline that also is russia and three. this is a recurring theme on this program. never look into the mirror and see your own mistakes no it must be social media it must be trolls it first be russia's you know there is no the population there is no introspection here this is one of the reasons and continues to roll this because it's not a minor issue which can be solved within our current political system because the entire political system since the cold war is very much been there in the old liberal. format for globalism so i think the idea that it can be solved with within the current to live doesn't necessarily exist and thus also why this media are having this problem how to define it is you know is this put in again you know controlling the world war is not evil for. all this racists coming out of the four

for a story you know is very hard as it did on facebook so you have all this different ways trying to explain it but. one of the. at the heart of this is the. quote it's the idea because look i mean this is what they say you know micron should not be so a rogue and well even if he wasn't a rogue and this would happen because this is kind of ingrained in the system who is going to be the leader of movement on the march no the minister of the interior who is no the most uncool to a person of the country mr customer name is going to be the head of his party you know and let me just repeat what i would explain what said when he said that marker on one their election just almost is actually what happened was that mongrel had twenty four percent of the vote in the first brought all the thanks to massive media support the media started a complaint against francois

a few on who had the biggest chance what we can but who was considered a rousseau file because of his friendship with president putin it was like a crime you know according to the francis and creates a crime now and it was there the broadest of all to was divided between three candidates so the broadest award was actually bigger the it was forty percent as now what do i see the french source you all just feel for they say that forty yvonne percent of the french the same forty percent who are radiate to all for you know to make a protest vote in two thousand and seventeen they're radia to see their representatives or yellow vests in the european parliament and thirteen percent of them are saying they're going to support the least or that you know this is going to be looking of leaders and political turmoil we're going to break that we're getting there. it was a year ago two years ago that the western media proclaimed yes angela merkel the leader of the free world well that went out of fashion and it was

a high magazine gave it to mccrie magazine time magazine's cover marker on is the leader of europe politico promoted him mccrone is. the leader of the free world the free world just what do you still market which go back to that paradigm going it's going to go back to the caliber of time magazine leader of the free world the subtitle was but can he lead france interesting you briggs didn't want to go to break that i want to go to pump ale. it looks like a lot of people are leaving ok merkel's gone. across fate is unclear right now and to resume is going to probably have a very bad day hurts to still claim and yes. yes well they're all leaving right this unclear who is going to follow them and i don't think they're going to be followed by anyone. very different unless because the ideology the system won't allow a difference yeah and it's worth pointing out all the because again the whole

purpose of the whole problem of the neo liberal movement is that it doesn't have any more conservative constraints on it if you look at you know economic conservatism political conservatism before the ninety's you have. a national identity should be preserved you need is some constraint on the column if i mean where we have family values like this is these are essentially not the worst of this are dangerous rhetoric so i think as long as the new leadership while the new leadership their current leadership in europe and the united states continue to neglect this balance we had in the past between liberalism and conservatism you're going to have more of this problem enter stage pompei o mark. pax americana pale tells you when w t o i c c o and comply with u.s. led world order that's a article from our team here. you know if you people been saying you know they lamented the passage of the liberal order what was never very liberal was never

very peaceful and it was pretty it was prosperous for a small number of people here and now pom pom pom. wants a remake what's that we make yeah pompeo said that america intends to lead now and always and that's i think we can clearly say that that is a promise and a threat right now he's speaking at the jorma marshall fund which is one of the most pro american led western hegemony organizations in europe and even they were a little taken aback by the early poli very elegant lobbying i notice is in even where he doesn't like we want to get rid of the un we want to get rid of the international criminal court that's no good for america we want to get rid of the i.m.f. and the world bank right i mean i don't personally have a problem with that particular part of it but the people in the you may have the e.u.

that's no good it doesn't say it's useless the african union if you in africa think you know your interests best you are wrong because america knows your interests better than the african union kind of but this seems to me this is getting down to almost chaos theory because i mean we've built these institutions for better or worse and they have a bald through time but it was basically to give all states nation states some kind of footing here when pump a you know it's just tearing that all apart but that's what they recognize as being that weakness if you read to listen to this little boy well what he sees for the whole world the court of use if you read his whole speech the main takeaway would be his argument that multilateralism is not necessarily a good thing and the argument because because that's a barrier to gemini whoa and it was the united states that's. a liberal democracy some of the freedom loving countries that should not become strained or by giving

a voice to the rest of the world so this is very much the concept of liberal head of money and evidence saying that only the united states has sovereignty and no one else says so and it is and this is kind of the liberal. george orwell's animal farm in which all states are equal but some states are more equal than others but i would just point out this is not a new thing though like the whole after the cold war this is essentially how europe was set up the whole idea that we should have a common european home but rather have europe led by the e.u. and nato were excited to hear liberal democracy it should run it they should not be constrained by others like multilateralism in these limits and this very much reads like the proposal in the two thousand and four concert of the marcos is essentially similar logic we should join the union still going to. love that but this is it was put in poland to put aside international institutions like the culture of the marxist should not be constrained by the rest of the world we should have our own rules we should. not even talking a concert of democracies because the e.u.

needs to go to right when it doesn't serve us interests he not only took specific shots at it but he also defended the idea of the nation state and you could almost see them choking back as he said that because the e.u. of course is a nation deconstructing machine right you know it's a super national straight ahead and we get yellow vests ok you've got to deal with well it's interesting. the bad guys devolves who prevent the brave new world from congo and all those other than us actor calls them bad actors and when he said bad actors have talked about mock role in terms of i mean. i don't know why liberals are going to blame the next driven leader will be ineffective she has a very bad name on the grant. i was hoping you would say i don't know i'll read you know you know they accuse he would clinton of not being the good candidate she had the right she was his miracle two point zero right yeah she's an absolute call people go very anti russian very manipulative i mean like what what what

merkel did she just. sucked in someone with a d.s.l. this song. democratic bunch of the central slept mostly of the so-called identity politics so she sucked them into a party and. destroyed the political landscape of germany and the girl who was doing the same not to lead europe it doesn't need a leader we don't have ninety one having this weapon getting added to a point table provides a serious way to go i do always you can leave without the leader you know there was a short period there is no it isn't it you want the results of the results are very bad there's also very bad last word that germans and the rest of european leaders what they're most shocked of is the honest the and tone of the trump administration not any huge change in policy what they lack what they've always had is the illusion that they have sovereignty that they're not just clients of the u.s. trump rich that mask off and lays a bare and says when you lead and you get

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