absolutely vital for folks like me to be able to recognize what is going on and what it might mean for us and finally stacy too has a view on what george kennan said on the show last week and she says i'm the s.n.p. illini to the people of scotland with the proof european stance regardless of it was a no vote in the u.k. referendum on breaks that if we were part of the e.u. without the u.k. then we still would be independent to talk of. other down of britain's brics debates some of the more enthusiastic big city yes i get that many other countries were swiveling on their own membership of the european union while human holes even at least odds on which countries might accompany britain at the exit door it was thought that many might follow where britain tried to both of the elite one of the favorites was denmark a privately independent country which famously rejected the maastricht treaty and refused to join the euro however and wonderful wonderful copenhagen alex find little or no enthusiasm for the decks it it seems that however see us does not

quite much brick city or expectations welcome to the excitement show from christian book where the parliament has been based for a hundred years from the year of course to many of them are the views of bargain is here but the davis parliament discusses all aspects of the day this route but one of the things top of the agenda at the present moment is bricks that the implications for the u.k. and the implications for denmark i want some of the gift to give us to see ourselves as others see us that's where rabi bourbons had to say and today we're going to find out what denmark has to say about bret's. that care hope welcome the exam and show you firmly been a fixture of social democratic politics and denmark for many generations how do you assess the situation with the elections to not coming. actually i think we're going

to do when the election and get back into government the opinion polls are quite narrow but the leaning away so we're quite quite optimistic but don't tell nobody. well there were quite glacial changes and there is politics there people still watch it wildly but the sort of them to seem to be moving ahead and the people's party seem to be moving backwards but it's not because the social democrats of adopted some of the people sparked this program and probably the rhetoric on for example the thorny subject of immigration i think i would put it that it has been a concern to very many ordinary day in the situation about migration and refugees and so on and i think that would it has taken quite some time before we realize that we will have to take that concern very serious but when we did that we did then we have gained in the opinion polls and the sort of democrats the some talk

that instead of the normal coalition which has been a feature of danish politics the democrats may say well we will be a minority government that would be quite novel in terms of the political system here the government before this government was a minority government with giant one party but it's not the come situation but it's very rare that we have a majority government so so being in a coalition of party in the government this is what does the normal picture while on a minority government myself one of them for a few years that has a good point also make votes pretty exciting. so you're ready for a cliff edge votes every session of parliament we're looking forward to do that. i want us in the. daily show attitudes to the european union if you joined them and joined on the same day the european community as it was there in one thousand seventy three as the u.k. . has shared many of the skeptical attitudes towards aspects of europe and for

example denmark famously voted against the mastic trinity is not a member of the euro. and yet the u.k. is moving out of europe altogether and i would be right in thinking there's no not much sign that their mark is going to follow suit how do you explain perhaps contradictory attitude to being skeptical about europe for many days but not wanting to go through the exit door i think all of us in denmark a very very sorry and set that case is leaving the u. because we had in so many areas a very strong ally in and u.k. but i think that to put it shortly we entered the with the u.k. and we're going to stay in the e.u. with the german the german i mean trade partner. to care of our doings interest we need as a very small country to be part of a greater community in you is one of those communities that suit us and what would

be the chances and you'd estimation of denmark following the u.k. out of the exit door next to zero actually since u.k. decided to go breaks at the pinion poles have still had a steady increase in the percentages of danes that are supporting our membership of the you and i think part of is it that we that we are looking at the world around us where we are. well we see a lot of trouble in insecurity in the in the u.s. you leaving you in russia so on and so forth and this is the e.u. is is in that regard and anger of comfort force so the european union regarded as a safe anchorage in a troubled world yeah one of those one of those and is that we really do need another one is nato of course but but the we feel confident within the you and even

though there's a lot of problems and a lot of things that if we could do just all we would do we would have done it another way then generally we benefit a lot for being a member of the un we have an influence that we as a very small concert would not. that there might have been famous politically for a social democratic consensus even when the social democrats have been in power meaning high taxation high pastoral taxation with a high standard of of public services i do you feel that is that consensus still robust pressure politically to move to a different economic and social model that the model is still very robust and actually the current government the that we have at the moment which is a right wing government they are very much trying to take in on our agenda at the moment i think we will have a situation no matter who wins the election that there will be very strong support

to the twelve welfare system and the quite height cessation a number of countries in europe including them marcos in the rise of what could be called right wing populist parties and did it there is people's party is one manifestation of that not identical to other manifestations but nonetheless is so an aspect whereby smaller countries have political systems which i find it easier to spawn to the sometimes large of countries which we have there stablished parties from the different very. to respond to a populist challenge well actually i think the problem is that the social democrats throughout europe was very slow to recognize the ordinary people's concern about the financial crisis that. the raise and unemployment about youngsters not having the sufficient education but also about migration and in the refugee christian then and if we're not able to address those concerns people can easily

understand why they tried to find the part is that they're concerned more seriously but in some countries when for example france or italy even well established socialist or social democratic party has been swept aside or a of the not nasty just by right wing populist bodies but by new movements in the case of moscow on and on and fronts a but they in denmark the social democrats are making a comeback of naming leading in the polls when you put that into women why have the social democrats and denmark so vive to move forward again and away the other sister pot is a fine very difficult i think that these last four years in opposition we have been able to address some of the agendas that ordinary people in the very concerned about for instance the climate changed for instance migration for instance our health system and so on i have a daily shot to choose to of scotland the mean and denmark was conquered england

once the great but you never conquered scotland was the danish attitude towards scotland we love scotland and love scotland and they think of scotland as being something in between a. core u.k. and nobody like and when we feel very confident when we took it that would scots because a lot of issues and culture. you look. somehow like us i'm sorry. to take that as a couple of admittedly of this post but i accept the you know we're scotland of course famously voted strongly in favor of being part of the european community and was able to buy in with a particular f. scott and want to look for european autonomy as a place where they've got us friendly reception in countries like denmark of the wanted to be part of the of the european context that's

a very. delicate question because we have we have a strong position we will not interfere into matters of other countries but if you don't tell nobody i can say that we would very much appreciate having scotland of course prefer the whole u.k. as part of the u.s. and the strong cooperation. on the way down but that least is scotland of course look at one particular aspect of the issues thrown up by blacks fishing and fishing waters and then mark as a as a great fishing nation itself as a scenario where the danish m.p.'s have a particular concern yes it is we are very concerned that we will be expelled from them from the british borders since we have a lot of depending on. fishing fleet being able to fish in british waters and if we have a solution where we cannot fish in in british waters and where the price of that

for britain being that the u.k. cannot sell their fish in the in the european market then we have a lose lose situation we cannot fish if is and we cannot eat the fish so there's many issues that blacks phone up which have still to be walked away flew do you think there's every chance looking from the outside and not giving advice to the british people do if it was any chance the future or the region town that bret's that will be divest i hope so. but there. for what we hear in that is that is a very thing too and from a danish perspective you know think about denmark through the ages of a country which has a two empire first of all you conquered england in the middle ages and then in there in the modern period of the kingdom of denmark and compass the sweden norway iceland greenland the pharaohs of course not many people would argue settler myself that some people in britain the find it difficult to lose an empire in the famous

words and find a room how did denmark find a rule as a country with in the european context with all of the all of that history but that was actually a painful process being reduced to such a small country and it took actually a far more than hundred years for us to realize once realizing that i think we have been focused on doing what we can with the little influence that we have and try to have a very active foreign policy there was a famous new zealand politician who won an election on the slogan with a small country but we think big you know that be a slogan for the better use that there's a good that's a that's a very good well i'm writing your election over next year kind of got into you success in the elections can go to you as a seat of an alex salmond question of being on the show. you know the drill this is gallant for loving call the queen whiskey only scottish and

a quick and round oh you're going to france ok thank you very much alex and with whatever was less likely thank you thank joins us after the break when alex test the views of the id i representative in the danish parliament someone arguing for full autonomy for his own island group up the fatal will see them. you know i work with the school shooters for a period of twelve years and none of the students we work with in our facility ever went on to commit a school shooting so that gives me hope that if you catch the students early enough and provide the kind of support and mental health treatment that they need that they can come out of the crisis. but.

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welcome back to the. book in copenhagen i'm not going to speak to a representative from a community who wants in the pendants not just from the european union but from denmark itself i'm going to speak to mark. from the field a while and. how would you assess the developments in danish politics with the election upcoming and how might that benefit the fade away wins which you represent here in copenhagen i think it's moving forward like a close race between the existing government and the blue wing in the parliament as we call it and the opposition of the red wing if it develops in the way as it's looks it could happen that it will be a hung parliament and in that case the fairly members and even the greenlandic members may come into a very central position in appointing the new status minister or the presidency

here my dad all your family has a long history of this there is parliament because your great grandfather built the staircase but you are a business person coming into politics and given now i'm pretty sure you've got your list of objectives already drawn up just in case you're left in the position of holding the balance of power yeah i will read you done back in the parliament and a list of the very focal points i do have is partly that the right to self-determination external self-determination should be announced to the united nations and to the external community international community that's one thing it's only an internal. acceptance as i just know so the federal islands and the tone of this community not in the european union like denmark is but nonetheless in many things the solvent is still lies and this danish parliament that is correct and denmark has delivered

part of its sovereignty into the brussels we still hold the right to organize our own fishery policy we still have to negotiate their own trade deals for instance box denmark holds to sovereignty on this area as well and that course is sometimes a conflict of interest and last time we saw the so shoot conflict was when the e.u. said. an embargo towards the federal islands and denmark was sitting on both sides of the table that this is an impossible construction in the long run and we need to sold out so the fed of us gets to sober in on these very focal areas of the parasite well for some years the pharaoh's have been playing international football on what was some success of a member of a victory against austria and scotland of only sneak past you once or twice but in terms of the famous becoming independent country would then be your objective and trading towns to join the european free trade association let me first say that we

played scotland twice with a draw. i was wiping out from history. but i would say that they're becoming independent gives us the opportunity to form alliances with other international communities made b f there may be other countries or whoever and not necessarily becoming a part of the e.u. because that needs an agreement with e.u. unsold indeed with regards to fishery policy because we are making our valve here in our income from fishing and control of the waters around pharaohs and from our culture so for us the membership of the e.u. is a difficult one but being a part of the international society gives us the possibility to take part in all sorts of forum most unlucky international or whatever which we don't hold today because of denmark is actually holding that position and to see it in the old international forum of course f. the membership like iceland of norway and switzerland on liechtenstein would allow

you control of your own resources but still have access to the the single market place of the european economic area the six hundred million people and not the huge construct definitely and that is something that we've been discussing for years but it's difficult to put this negotiations of violence as long as we. part of the danish is over into you could say because after finds it difficult to make a negotiation with somebody who's on both sides on the table both within the e.u. or with the f.b.i. it doesn't work but this time when we would be independently would be in a different position and we wouldn't be the smallest member of the anyway because liechtenstein this actually fewer citizens than we are one of the smallest countries the world of course by some measurements the most prosperous country in the world like that but the calculation for the pharaohs would be largely based on

your resources but you would want to have control over them i would have a different calculation what your assessment of denmark famously has been little skeptical within the european union and voted against the maastricht treaty for example not part of the usual do you think there's any serious prospect of denmark as a whole deciding to leave the unity in your. i don't think so it does smy understanding from the years i've been in politics here and spent time here in copenhagen that largely the danes are accepting being a part of the european union i am myself in favor of a european co-operation and i have been in a large good relation between europe and countries i think that is needed in this world not least with trump and whatever but on the other hand it doesn't mean that i am in favor of being a part of the european union as a disk constructed today but the danes i think is are going to stay there so for

that reason we are going in each our direction and the more time passes by the more conflicts may arise and the more do meet for us to depart in each our truck and getting control of our affairs a novice the federal islands. and geographical. much closer to scotland and new up to denmark do you see cooperation with so. in the future has been one of the a additional aspects that the pharaoh islands are built to do with greater control of international relations definitely and scott on is our nearest neighbors so it's a very natural for us to build a relation to scotland and to the u.k. which is a huge market as well so you could say that even on a bracks it is not necessarily something that is scaring us in the federals because it may open up for some new opportunities for us while for denmark it is more scary because it's a huge market but you know that's really interesting when you're

a representative in the danish parliament but just about every other member of this parliament will be looking a bit legally at blacks and saying what the implications for for danish u.k. trade with as the fadeaway islands you've met perhaps see some opportunities from the blacks that process in the you get definitely it's the boat be big regard to agreement around fishery in could be video greenman the around free trade agreements but it's also i think a possibility of building a stronger relation between nations around the north atlantic and it's moving a bit of the geo political weight a bit more north bound you could say which includes us and even though we are few people who control what you would say is two hundred eighteen thousand square kilometers of sea area which is quite huge and with all the resources including some of that reason it makes sense for us and it also makes sense for us in the arctic context if you are looking even further north well let's look at that as

a sea of the pharaoh islands a small community but you have a big sea and you have a big stake in the circle and many people now are going particularly if the effect of climate change and opening up of. that the optic is becoming one of the the key resource ears of the world is that part of the analysis that the field. islands sure absolutely and i think that the difference of approach to this between denmark for instance and the federal islands and partly greenland greenland is a different creature here because they are very much the arctic often or two you could say and that is that the denmark has a geo political view upon these matters because their control over greenland and the pharaohs is making them point much higher in the world than that otherwise would have for us this is more about the valve fear of the people living in this

area and how we are protecting the interest of the people of their own so for that reason we have a different starting point when we're discussing the arctic future there are huge opportunities with the math being ice and the opening up of the landmass and the sea routes and things like that but the cost for it is very much to to the pollution to the c o two footprint which are contained in the sea and this may cause to shoot damage to our area as well if it's going to be more heat in the sea for instance because it changes the patterns of the fishing stocks of plastic and to see coming from the urban societies all over the world and we need to protect our area and to create some sort of an understanding for this in other areas of the world so that we can lower this pollution and secure the basis for our welfare and for our ability to harvest from the sea and the mountains and the arctic air might be out again your grandfather. built the fabric of the stainless parliament the

magnificent staircases in this place were built in the the fear the oil is by your great grandfather therefore that's a strong tie to the kingdom of denmark as of nothing within the us as well some time with the the danish kingdom of the danish people of copenhagen with this parliament in a bad thing for the. the fear of violence well in my maiden speech which i made here in the danish parliament i explained to them about the stairs and this is actually the highest thing that you can reach in the danish society is walking up the stairs to the danish parliament and that is the highest thing you can experience in democracy in denmark what i think that the danes now hold to the fairies as well is coming up with the last steps we need to create our own independent democratic state of the fair while and so i hope that we can reach an

agreement on bottom before we are going for an independence referendum somewhere in the near future might be argued i can't matts the craftsmanship of the of the eastman of the staircase by campus that you have the aisle examined quit. scott's garlic for the loving cup and i don't think there's any need to tell somebody for the fade away one's the drill whisk in the quick and then rode your many friends may i tell you thank you sir we're actually starting to brew whiskey in the fairway and survival tasted in a few years when it's ready boneless scotch of. denmark joined the european community as it was then in one thousand nine hundred fifty on the very same day as britain joined over the years that share many of the euro skeptic attitudes are commonplace in britain if what is against must stick in the one nine hundred ninety s. it's never joined the euro but kept the corner breaks a tear said this would be one of the countries which would follow britain out of

the exit door and yet when you asked denise parliamentarians across the political spectrum the skin sad what are you about blacks that even some humor but there's no see his body of opinion who believe that denmark is going to be next in line to exit the european union the bun spoiled to a los i caught it at the beginning of the sure i would some pearl of the gift to get us to see ourselves as others see us that wired fame many a blunder for the us or foolish notion as perhaps to be the glare that so few of britain's black city of us are devoted to the poetry of scotland's national bart and so if it does me or myself and all that the show from here at the danish parliament in christiansburg this good bye for no.

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