tv The Alex Salmond Show RT December 13, 2018 6:30pm-7:00pm EST
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see ourselves as others see us that's what robbie burtons had to say and today we're going to find out what denmark has to say about bret's or. let her go help welcome to the exam and show your family has been a fixture of social democratic politics and denmark for many generations how do you assess the situation with the elections to not coming actually i think we're going to to win the election and get back into government the opinion polls are quite narrow but the leaning away so we're quite quite optimistic but don't tell nobody. well there are quite glacial changes and there is politics there people still watch it wildly but the social democrats seem to be moving ahead and the people's party seem to be moving backwards but it's not because the democrats of of adopted some of the people sparky's program and probably the rhetoric on for example the thorny subject of immigration i think i would rather put it that it has been
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a concern to very many ordinary danes the situation about migration and refugees and so on and i think that would it has taken quite some time before we realise that we will have to take that concern is but when we did that we did then we have gained in the opinion polls and the sort of democrats the some talk that instead of the normal coalition which has been a feature of the english politics the dampers may say well we will be a minority government that would be quite novel in terms of the political system here the government before this government was a minority government with one party but it's not the come situation but it's very rare that we have a majority government so so being in a coalition of party in the government this is what does the normal picture while on a minority government myself one of them for a few years that it has
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a good point also makes what's pretty exciting. so are you ready for a cliff edge votes every session of parliament we're looking forward to do that. i want us to make about it daily shout the tubes to the european union if you joined them are joined on the same day the european community as it was then in one nine hundred seventy three as the u.k. . has shared many of the skeptical attitudes towards aspects of europe and for example them up famously voted against the mastic trinity is not a member of the euro and yet the u.k. is moving out of europe altogether and i would be right in thinking there's no not much sign that their mark is going to follow suit how do you explain the perhaps contradictory attitude of being skeptical of europe for many days but not wanting to go through the exit door i think all of us in denmark are very very sorry and set that case is leaving the u.
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because we had in so many areas a very strong ally in and u.k. but i think that to put it shortly we entered the with the u.k. and we're going to stay in the e.u. with the german the german i mean trade partner. to care of our dealings interest we need as a very small country to be part of a greater community in you is one of those communities that suit us and our what would be the chances and us commission of denmark following the u.k. out of the exit door next to zero actually since u.k. decided to go breaks at the pinion polls have. shown a steady increase in the percentages of danes that are supporting our membership of the u. and i think part of this is that we that we are looking at the world around us where we. well we see a lot of trouble in insecurity in the in the u.s.
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you leaving you in russia so on and so forth and this is the e.u. is is in that regard and anger of comfort force so the european union regarded as a safe anchorage in a troubled world yeah one of those one of those and is that we really do need the other another one is nato of course but but the we feel confident within the you and even though there is a lot of problem and a lot of things that if we could do just always we would have done it another way then generally we benefit a lot for being a member of the un we have an influence that we as a very small country would not. that there might have been famous politically for a social democratic consensus even when the social democrats have been in power meaning high taxation high pastoral taxation the high standard of of public services i do you feel that is that consensus still robust pressure politically to
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move to a different economic and social model that the model is still very robust and actually the current government the that we have at the moment which is a right wing government they are very much trying to take in an hour agenda at the moment i think we will have a situation no matter who wins the election that there will be very strong support to the twelve welfare system and the quite high taxation a number of countries in europe including them marcos in the rise of what could be called right wing populist parties and did it there is people's party is one manifestation of that not identical to other manifestations but nonetheless is the aspect whereby smaller countries political systems which find it easier to respond to the sometimes large of countries which we have this stablish parties phone to very differ. to respond to a populist challenge well actually i think the problem is that the social democrats
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throughout europe was very slow to recognize the ordinary people's concern about the financial crisis and. the reason unemployment about youngsters not having the sufficient education but also about migration and in the refugee christian then and if we're not able to address those concerns people can easily understand why they try to find the part is that they're concerned more seriously but in some countries when for example france or italy even well established socialist or social democratic party has been swept aside or a of the not nasty just by right wing populist bodies but by new movements in case of moscow on and on and fronts a but the and then the social democrats are making a comeback of naming leading in the polls when you put that into women while the social democrats and denmark survive to move forward again and away the other
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sister pot is a fine very difficult i think that these last four years in opposition we have been able to address some of the agendas that ordinary people in the very concerned about for instance the climate changed for instance migration for instance our health system and so on i have a daily shock to choose to have scotland them in and then marcos conquered england once the great but you never conquered scotland was the danish attitude towards scotland we love scotland we love scotland and they think of scotland as being something in between a. core u.k. and in no decline and when we feel very confident when we had to give that would scots because a lot of issues and culture. you look. somehow like us i'm sorry. to take that as
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a couple and maybe it will this post breaks it to you know. we're scotland of course famously voted strongly in favor of being part of the european community and was able to buy in with a particular f. scott and want to look for european autonomy as place where they've got us friendly reception in countries like denmark of the wanted to be part of the of the european continent that's a very. delicate question because we have we have a strong position we will not interfere into matters of other countries but if you don't tell nobody i can say that we would very much appreciate having scotland of course prefer the whole u.k. as part of the u.s. and strong cooperation on the way down but that least is scotland of course look at one particular aspect of the issues thrown up by bracks fishing and fishing
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waters and then mark as a as a great fishing nation itself as a scenario where the danish m.p.'s have a particular concern yes it is we are very concerned that we will be expelled from them from the british waters since we have a lot of depending on. fishing fleet being able to fish in british waters and if we have a solution where we cannot fish in in british waters and where the price of that for britain being the that the u.k. cannot sell their fish in the in the european market then we have a lose lose situation we cannot fish if is and we cannot eat the fish so there's many issues that blacks phone up which have still to be walked away flew do you think there's every chance looking from the outside and not giving advice to the british people drove it was there a chance the future or the medium term that bracks that will be divest i hope so. but there. for what we hear in that is that is a very thing to and from
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a daily space but you know think about denmark through the ages of a country which has a true empire first of all you conquered england in the middle ages and they were there on the border to be it will be the kingdom of denmark and compass sweden norway iceland greenland the pharaohs of course not many people would argue settling myself to some people but in the find it difficult to lose an empire the famous words and find a room how to day in my find to rule as a country with in the european context with all of the all of that history but that was actually a painful process being reduced to such a small country and it took actually a far more than hundred years for us to realize it once realizing that i think we have been focused on doing what we can with the little influence that we have and try to have a very active foreign policy there was a famous new zealand politician i think you won an election on the slogan with
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a small country but we think big you know that be a slogan for that use that there's a good that's a good that's a very good well i'm writing your election over next year kind of gotten to you success in the elections. to you as a seat of an alex salmond queen of being on the show. you know the drill this is gallant for the loving cup the queen whiskey only scottish in the quake and rain oh you're going to france ok thank you very much alex with whatever was less likely thank you mike joined us after the break with alex test of use of the id i representative in the danish parliament someone arguing for full autonomy for his own island group off the fatals was even.
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a while and. magni out how would you assess the developments in danish politics with the election upcoming and how might that benefit the fade away wins which you represent here in copenhagen i think it's moving forward like a close race between the existing government and the blue wing in the parliament as we call it and the opposition of the red wing if it develops in the way as it's looks it could happen that it will be a hung parliament and in that case the fairly members and even the greenlandic members may come into a very central position in appointing the new status minister or the presidency here my dad all your family has a long history of this there is parliament because your great grandfather built the staircase but you are a business person coming into politics and given that i'm pretty sure you've got your list of objectives already drawn up just in case you're left in the position
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of holding the balance of power yeah i've already done that in the parliament and a list of the very focal points i do have is partly that the right to self-determination external self-determination should be announced to the united nations and to the external community international community that's one thing it's only an internal. acceptance as i just know so the federal islands and the tone of this community not in the european union like denmark is but nonetheless in many things the solvent is still lies and this danish parliament that is correct and denmark has delivered part of its sovereignty into the brussels we still hold the right to organize our own fishery policy we still have to negotiate our own trade deals for instance box denmark holds to sovereignty on this area as well and that course is sometimes a conflict of interest and last time we saw the so shoot conflict was when the e.u.
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said. an embargo towards the federal islands in denmark was sitting on both sides of the table that this is an impossible construction in the long run and we need to sold out so the fed about as gets to sober in on these very focal areas of the federal site well for some years the pharaoh's have been playing international football on what was some success of a member of a victory against austria and scotland have only sneak past you once or twice but in terms of the famous becoming independent country would then be your objective and trading towns to join the european free trade association let me first say that we've played scotland twice with the drawl. i was wiping out from history. but i would say that the becoming independent gives us the opportunity to form alliances with other international communities may be f. there may be other countries or whoever not necessarily becoming a part of the e.u.
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because that needs an agreement with the e.u. on soda indeed with regards to fishery policy because we are making our vell fair in our income from fishing and control of the waters around pharaohs and from our culture so for us the membership of the e.u. is a difficult one but being a part of the international society gives us the possibility to take part in all sorts of foreign mostly lucky international or whatever which we don't hold today because of denmark is actually holding that position and to see it in the old international forum of course f. the membership like iceland of norway or switzerland elect and stein would allow you control of your own resources but still have access to the the single market place of the the european economic area the six hundred million people and not a huge construct definitely and that is something that we've been discussing for years but it's difficult to put this negotiations of violence as long as we are
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part of the danish is over into you could say because after finds it difficult to make a negotiation with somebody who's on both sides on the table both within the you or with the f.b.i. it doesn't work but this time when we would be independent they would be in a different position and we wouldn't be the smallest member of the anyway because liechtenstein this actually fewer citizens than we are one of the smallest countries the world of course by some measurements the most prosperous country in the world like that but the calculation for the pharaohs would be largely based on your resources but you would want to have control over. then i would have a different calculation what was your assessment of denmark famously has been little skeptical within the european union and voted against the maastricht treaty for example not part of the util do you think there's any see this prospect of
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denmark as a whole deciding to leave the unit be injured. i don't think so it does smy understanding from the years i've been in politics here and spent time here in copenhagen that largely the danes are accepting being a part of the european union i am myself in favor of a european cooperation and i have been in a large good relation between you and countries i think that is needed in this world not least with trump and whatever but on the other hand it doesn't mean that i am in favor of being a part of the european union as a disk constructed today but the danes i think is are going to stay there so for that reason we are going in each our direction and the more time passes by the more conflicts may arise in the more delete for us to depart in each our truck and get in control of our affairs and navas the the federal islands. and geographical.
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much closer to scotland and new up to denmark do you see cooperation with scotland in the future has been one of the a additional aspects that the pharaoh islands a bill to do with greater control of international relations definitely and scott on is our nearest neighbors so it's a very natural for us to build a relation to scotland and to the u.k. which is a huge market as well so you could say that even on a bracks it is not necessarily something that is scaring us in the photos because it may open up for some new opportunities for us while for denmark it is more scary because it's a huge market but you know that's really interesting i mean real representative in the danish parliament but just about every other member of this polymer. will be looking a bit legally at but certain saying what the implications for for danish u.k. trade with as the fed a while and you've met perhaps see some opportunities from the blacks that process in the u.k. definitely it's a bold regard to agreement around fishery in could be even though green in the
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around free trade agreements but it's also i think a possibility of building a stronger relation between nations around the north atlantic and it's moving a bit of the geo political weight a bit more north bound you could say which includes us and even though we are few people who control what you would say is two hundred eighty thousand square kilometers of sea area which is quite huge and with all the resources including some of that reason it makes sense for us and it also makes sense for us in the arctic context if you are looking even further north well let's look at that as a sea of the pharaoh islands a small community but you have a big sea and you have a big stake in the circle and many people now are going particularly if the effect of climate change and opening up of. that the optic is becoming one of the the key resource ears of the world is that part of the analysis that the fadeaway
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ellen's share absolutely and i think that the difference of approach to this between denmark for instance and the federal islands and partly greenland greenland is a different creature here because they are very much the arctic often or two you could say and that is that the denmark has a geo political view upon these matters because their control over greenland and pharaoh's is making them punching much higher in the world than that otherwise would have for us this is more about the valve fear of the people living in this area and how we are protecting the interest of the people of their own sofa. that reason we have a different starting point when we're discussing the arctic future there are huge opportunities with the math in the ice and the opening up of the landmass and the sea routes and things like that but the cost for it is very much true to the
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pollution to the c o two footprint which are contained in the sea and this may cause to shoot damage to our area as well if it's going to be more heat in the sea for instance because it changes the poppins of the fishing stocks plus they can to see coming from the urban societies all over the world and we need to protect our area and to create some sort of an understanding for this in other areas of the world so that we can lower this pollution and secure the basis for our welfare and for our ability to harvest from the sea and the land and the arctic air might be out your grandfather. built the fabric of the stainless parliament the magnificent staircases in this place were built in the the fear the oil is by your great grandfather therefore that's a strong tie to the kingdom of denmark is that nothing within the us as well some time with the the danish kingdom of the day these people of copenhagen with this
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parliament in a bad thing for the fate of violence well in my maiden speech which i made here in the danish parliament i explained to them about the stairs and this is actually the highest thing that you can reach in danish society is walking up the stairs to the danish parliament and that is the highest thing you can experience in democracy in denmark what i think that the danger now hold for the fairies as well is coming up with the last steps we need to create our own independent democratic state of the fair while and so i hope that we can reach an agreement on but before we are going for an independent referendum somewhere in the near future my god i can't match the craftsmanship of the of least not enough of the staircase by campus that you have the alec sam and quick. scott's garlic for the loving cup and i don't think there's any need to tell somebody for the fade away one's the drill whisky in the quick and
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then rode your many friends may i tell you like you said we're actually starting to brew whiskey in the fairway and survival tasted in a few years when it's ready for only scotch and. denmark joined the european community as it was then in one thousand nine hundred fifty on the very same day as britain joined over the years that shit many of the euro skeptic attitudes are commonplace in britain if what it against must stick in the one nine hundred ninety s. it's never joined the euro but kept the corner breaks a tear said this would be one of the countries which would follow britain out of the exit door and yet when you asked denise parliamentarians across the political spectrum those can sab what are you about blacks that even some humor but there's no see his body of opinion who believe that denmark is going to be next in line to exit the european union the bun spoil him to a los i courted at the beginning of the sure i would some pull of the gift to get
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us to see ourselves as others see us that wide fame many a blunder for the us or foolish notion as perhaps to be the glare that so few of britain's black city of us are devoted to the poetry of scotland's national bar and so forth that's me and myself and all that the show from here at the danish parliament in christiansburg this good bye for no.
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