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i'm afraid what are you saying that the show doesn't understand irish history well i have to say that he should take note of the fact that you know this particular policy a served us well the teacher of what didn't even be in the position that he is in charge of the government at an irish parliament in dublin simply only for the fact that took that position one hundred years ago and of held fast to it interesting leader not in the course of this year a portrait of constance markovitch the first woman elected to the westminster parliament as it was all those years ago was all vamped in the houses of parliament in westminster so someone there are some people there clearly have an understanding of the history of all of that good to me corbin you're referring to there in the moment but the teacher gave your employees in westminster another option that was to resign if they don't support the resumes break that agreement. well they won't
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be doing that but they're very very open and ready to face the electorate again if a westminster election is to present any time in the coming weeks or months whatever at the time frame will be in are confident that the electorate that returned us time after time will do so again with a renewed mandate on the basis that their place in the political makeup of this island is as representatives of irish constituencies in an irish parliament relevant to the whole island of ireland that's where they should be taking their seats and perhaps the leader of iraq or might like to consider the role that he must play in so facilitating them. already is playing a role i mean must realise that while it has failed singularly to unite the six counties with the island of a. and by the power vested even because government by the european union he
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controls the fate of bricks and he controls the fate of the united kingdom. well i think i think you should have not had any failure i mean this is a collective responsibility and a responsibility of both governments and indeed of the british government in the first instance to afford the electorate in the north of ireland a referendum to indicate their preference as to whether to remain part of the so-called united kingdom or to be reunited with the rest of the island of ireland in a new republican scenario i think that that is a very worthy consideration and more appropriate maybe even now than at any point in time and one that leader of around core caldwell will give some serious consideration to it's not her that is holding a situation to ransom in terms of the current chaos within the british political
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system it is the british political system itself that has steered a situation that you know not only a majority of the people in the north of ireland having voted to remain find themselves you know been forced to face a brags at that they don't want the people in scotland under many of the places to when you're based in london look at the votes across the whole of the electorate and i think that perhaps if that question was posed once again now that people realise exactly what is unfolding before their eyes they might take a very very different view. i'm sure a senior politicians is saying is it is learned and not sure how westminster m.p.'s will react to a irish politician like yourself telling the british electorate about bricks of but surely you must be cheered on by the legal advice that there is a may was forced to publish that arguably says ireland will forever have
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a veto on the u.k. border control of the six counties. well let me say at the outset that you know you make the point about british politicians not finding much comfort with an irish politician recommending a particular course of action but let's not for a moment forget that it was british politicians who engineered a situation that is impacting on the daily life condition of the ordinary people of the island of ireland people that i represent in a border constituency people north of the border people of the border and the impact of that has been dilatoriness and that is even before we see the final outcome in terms of the triggering of brecht's make no mistake about it theresa may has certainly survived a vote of confidence within her own party but there are very very troubled waters ahead and i do believe that some very serious decisions will have to be faced
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because quite frankly there is no read negotiation of the withdrawal agreement there is no prospect whatsoever of the backstop being removed or in any way been tweaked so whatever formula of words will give or comfort in terms of returning to the house of commons well let that exploration take place but in the end of the day let nobody be under any illusion or dot regs it no matter how one views it brags it was always going to be bad bad for ireland north and south and bad for the interests of the people of the island of britain ok well millions of people disagree with you but you don't seriously believe the god commission a jew harriss saying the deal or no deal could be a terrorist rallying call surely that's overblown as well one has to recognize that
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the peace process that we have all invested so much in just twenty years in between . this year arising out of the good friday agreement in nine hundred ninety eight it is of course a fragile situation it's still embryonic we are still all working to root to ensure that it will remain stable and sustainable throughout all the years before us but anything anything adverse could in fact upset the political and there is every reason to be concerned in relation to the reintroduction of significant paratus in relation to a hard border presenting along the way in the interface between the countries i represent and the neighboring counties are from tauron and all along the border you know there are some over three hundred crossings are we going to see
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a situation where a british forces are going to return that rolls will be closed roads will be blown up once again as they were all those years ago that is not a scenario that people want to see people have and joy don't have invested so much in an open. access across the border people have restored community relationships that were. sundered over a long period of time and nobody wants to go back to that past so we should be mindful of any risk to the current situation that is a very much a product of long years of negotiation and investment on the part of people across a whole plethora of political views he just very briefly and finally because it does sound like you are backing the got a commission to your leader mary mcdonald saying we dramatically differ on the
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issue of brics it with a life long campaign the civil rights era. meanwhile you will not put your m.p.'s in to support a second referendum even though your leader is calling for a second reverend of the mazy ship brains position it doesn't want a hard border even though our border could arguably mean the good friday agreement kicks in they vote on the irish unity and they want to take a referendum but it's not going to put m.p.'s in westminster of the second reverend let alone store well let me say let me say first of all it's not just that we don't want a hard border let's be upfront and straight about this and nobody beyond any doubt at all we don't want any border that's quite simply the situation that is our position and in relation to standing back in terms of a second referendum on the contrary our m.p.'s in the north and indeed our elected representatives a consolation and our party activists right across the country already will be fully engaged if
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a second referendum opportunity presents the way to really think about getting a second referendum is what i'm saying because you know when to be in europe we do and gauge let let let debate no doubt about it while we don't take our seats within the british parliament we engage on a continuous basis mary lou mcdonald our president spoke with three some may only earlier this week and that to engagement continues as it does with the irish government representatives saying relate lines shouldn't fane is a not to have fully involved un fully engaged political party right across the length and breadth of the island caving ok on thank you after the break we remember socialist and world war two veteran harry leslie smith paid tribute to by both jeremy colvin and to resume in other words following the last silent will before christmas rubber and activist low key before the song ghosts of britain fell about arguably one of the world's most catastrophic new liberal exhibits all the support
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coming up in part two of going on the ground. put themselves on the line. to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president and you. want. to go on to be pros that's what before three of them or can't be good. i'm interested in the waters in the. mind share that's where the the playing field the battlefield of the heart of her country so we're at war right now i mean so whether you know it trickles down to bullets and bombs and guns and stuff i mean that's immaterial we're already out war
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right now it's being played out in our collective unconscious if you wake up in the morning and you feel it was a massive headache it's because china and america are more in your mind. the. president trump indeed has has he's way of communicating but you have to hand it to him but sometimes it's better to try and shake up the established way of doing things in order to come to a different conclusion i think what's worrying is this focus. you know faith news and jump news because one of the foundations of a democracy has to be the trust in news facts and information and if that trust is fundamentally shaken and the independent media all criticized then i think that's a problem from a communications perspective. welcome back it's arguably convenient that the fragility of the premiership of tourism
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a coincided with the seventieth anniversary of the un declaration of human rights. there was little media attention for a document that aimed to create a better world forever as we heard from historian marketers on monday's episode of going underground nations in nato have routinely violated the declaration article five bands torture you decide what britain's former highest ranked military officer was talking about when he came on this are techniques we use sleeplessness spending and stress with patients it sounds like with comparable ones that we're hearing of american soldiers or in some cases british soldiers in iraq that knew them there was no violence used. over time to an old man waterboarding not to my knowledge it was i'd say stress positions sleeplessness white noise called that was one of britain's highest profile generals since world war two talking to me in twenty fourteen but while the legacy of british atrocities in ireland is now the context
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of bricks it the u.k.'s violated more than just that un declaration article for instance the head of scotland yard described u.k. police as institutionally racist that's a violation of article seven equality before the law article eleven maintains that guilty needs to be proven is that the case with russia are in the script all the incidents article nine is about unfair detention something to raise them is government is already in trouble with the un over thanks to the arbitrary detention of wiki leaks founder julian assange a few miles from this studio but what about article nineteen one of teresa mayes cabinet has actually made a video about it hello this is jeremy hunt foreign secretary here and following the case there's been a lot of concern about freedom of expression and what's happening to journalists all over the world this certainly is article nineteen is the right to freedom of opinion expression to hold opinions without interference and to secrecy even impart information and ideas through any media yes any media so if the u.k.
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state mandated b.b.c. and jerry called in the shadow chancellor in breach of article nineteen here one very clear. the thing that you could do is stop appearing on russia today which is we describe a what if you rode ministers as a kremlin propaganda vehicle mcdonnell arguably promoted that presenters defamation of this channel in that interview but since then he and shadow foreign secretary thornberry have called for an independent inquiry into an alleged conspiracy of perhaps watergate proportions tourism is government it is alleged is part of a multi-million pound conspiracy to use journalists and think tanks to subvert the information landscape of this country one man who was not an campaigner against resume's policies and risked his life for that un declaration was world war two veteran harriers the smith tomorrow he will be laid to rest with tributes paid by the leader of western europe's largest socialist movement jeremy corbyn a survivor of the great depression era spoke passionately in defense of a savagely cut u.k.
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health care system and more recent be toured the world refugee camps to raise awareness of e.u. betrayal of the un declaration as a tribute to one of the greatest communicators of a life or death struggle for international human rights here is the last of his going underground interviews about his book don't let my past be your future harry welcome back to going underground before we go to the book we have a new defense secretary was remembered sunday you're a veteran how important is the military covenant between the state and protecting former servicemen and servicewomen nish the most important training in the life of a rich man he has to may want to kill you to people who will be in the frame in the country for him. where. rich and he takes only three years and it must be taken care of when he comes back to asia home country. i remember. show news left me end of the first
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world war where now no really dumb cliche around. in the. there were so many men who had been in the first world war who are known to legs and they didn't have a penny from their government no care whatsoever is this what we want to happen to our men is what you say to our defense secretary you voted against strengthening that government our share a just get off the pot. may be one day you will have to be out there and face about. where you like to come back and. no protection at home tell me about the title of the book first wife feel it's so
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important to warn us that we're not to have the future be your past it's really. my life from the very beginning and in the stands. that my early life of course was brutal. no extent we. had not no food in most cases my father was injured in the mines. and he had no jobs and there was no job and even if you were wealthy. so consequently my sister and i usually rounded up around the back of hotel or got goblets cabin. trying to find some scraps of food we could. silence the painter in our stomach with. i remember going to school in the morning when i was about
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five and my stomach was growing so loudly america we had had no shop owner and there got no breakfast so all i could think of worse little glass of milk the government suddenly realised my good to give indigent children at school ok well obviously this is that you took that away but people who support stories today we shouldn't be able to compare them those who unfortunately. see them returning and reach an end very quickly. or pork children going to bed hungry in britain today than we had at that time because the population is bigger. it's really a crime and it's not just a church dollar and you only have to look in the city streets and say the men and women lined up on the sidewalks because they can't afford
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a place to put their head out. the country is going to the dogs you know one of the new appointments after the resignation of the disgraced defense secretary said we should celebrate food banks because they show and we have a conservative minister on this program saying that it shows the big society. the kids should silently. say because they're. he's saying every year in number. and it's a down. insult to to the country and to us as individuals that the rest of the world especially. having to get other people to feed our citizens it's belittling for those people it makes them feel who are not part of a country himym or they're simply. vive and they're
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surviving it was a jeremy corbyn talks about class a lot which hasn't been talked about for a few generations obviously people are going to say but class divisions are worse in your childhood than they are today we shouldn't be talking about. i think we should be talking about class because class is more stripped magenta the situation i think we're. in which such dire shape because of our one percent of our population who. minions. to orange rule form and they'd sure that they're getting near what they call their due but in the meantime . all our small cities and towns are not
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getting the taxes which have been diverted from the government which would use those taxes to build new schools and roadways and everything else which is necessary for a stable society but arguably the bottom of that pyramid are refugees from major wars around the world are there any echoes of the nine hundred thirty is when the blame for austerity of a poverty was deflected against the foreigner the refugees i don't know where all this fear of refugees came from. i wish i thought just as intelligent justice demanding of fair play as anyone else and not overly demand that they knew what they had and what they could exert and. they had
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a thought that maybe even forget that this is something which pains me greatly to her wish it were got the idea that because oil of someone's skin is different to ours they don't need shame to change that we need this they don't need food to survive don't need a cover shelter over their head but you have to realize we are all people of individual and we should be able to live in peace and harmony and leg know all the color of our skin. that's become one of the biggest barriers towards civilization that's ever been no i think well i know you visit a catholic where they were refugees from these nature wars in the middle east what's your next book going to be about. planning on another bench in a courtroom you probably know i'm going to trip the end of january
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in january and visit all the hot spots of europe. just to find out what was happening there how political the. shootings were faring the people were content or. becoming an obnoxious show in their belly and i want to come back and write a book. after book two. should the government tell them what this country needs to make sure that we don't get involved in another war. just around the corner has become more and more vibrant since it will trump into power. i'm not no dro able to tikrit be the next hitler. and when he does no ph
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anywhere in the country lobby schottische. thank you very much airless with. that was harry leslie smith's last interview for going underground his legacy will live on and it was arguably channeled in the past twenty four hours on the last grand fell silent walk of the year dream of those who died in what many consider to be a monument to violently liberalism hip hop artist and activist loki will play us out with his song ghosts of grandfather that's after the show on monday we go to the birthplace of jesus to speak to the mayor of bethlehem under siege by de facto british backed israeli settlers until their keep in touch by social media will be back on monday one hundred eighty eight years to the day of the death of revolutionary simone believe are his battles against imperialism with our future freedom fighters propose a party to chavez here is loki and karim kamar with ghosts of gravel. words cannot express please allow me to begin one thirty a year to shout it from a window people craned in the shade watching the burden of to kim graham phillips
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how women now historic can be a symbol of people reaching the windows screaming for their lives in their graves trying to reason with the skies the champions' comparison it's clear that the every single person in that bill would do would see here so don't judge the tired and i try and sometimes leave him leave. the. p.c. yes a sort of fire and he ran inside to. say when he and his family died she was like the grief you want to see. over the last who shall live now today when that was now which they never. was and to me to go in this position now was flowers fitted to the spirit. that was.
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that was. sued. for justice now here we. are see each other in the faces of those the witness this in the suits in the faces of. the missing the sea hopes for fields and bishops never which no one would be one see that did him which means try for good read was just an autistic gift of could be chipped if you bless it soon never be repeated straight for the new. can some home be.
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who watches. it plus they will get. back. to bush. balls but what's joined up when you got to what. the fuck are. you doing you know just kill the kids. no. more your good fortune just a preacher. prefers to play that card from. god i'm worried about. if we have a new trade or are arrangements with china then may build a new foundation for war stable relations i think broadly the it there is of the us
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has a problem in accepting the rise of china no matter what they do. prosecution will need to become almost. cold where you push us off the threat of fines somebody no longer seemed to i mean yeah i'm yasmeen political pressure on the bill do i need him in cold blood to know through security jenison knows when to pull your bundled up business models used by american corporations jadhav was incomplete please sold on couldn't matilda's it as an m.p. use the controls on the scene and in the solution. eyes up in association. i noticed when he saw some dogs it is
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just me of deleting. an investigative documentary. ghost war on agin. the. fact. that the yellow vest movement takes to the streets of paris for a fifth weekend in a row despite the president's making point and sessions. and. also coming up a sigh.

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