my son was doing drugs my nephew's was still in drugs my sister just with doing drugs it was like an epidemic of drug abuse america's public enemy number one in the united states is drug abuse he started going after the users in the prison population who are we started treating sick people people who are addicted to these drugs like criminals while i was on the hill i increasingly became convinced that the war on drugs was a mistake there are countless numbers of people who are in prison for. certain sins for boring or minor offenders in the drug trade it's a lot watching your children grow up and miss you in waves and say bye daddy as you're walking out of a business it's just it doesn't get easier. what holds an inch to you so. they put themselves on the line to get accepted or

rejected. so when you want to be president. or some want to. have to like the press it's like them before three of them or can people that i'm interested always in the waters about how. i should. join me every thursday on the elec simon chill and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see that.

hello and welcome to crossfire all things are considered peter lavelle spine mania returns the u.s. weaponize is its laws against adversaries also is the western world in crisis and much much more on this edition of crossed. cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark sloboda he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have dimitri bobbitt she's a political analyst with sputnik international and we have glenn d.'s and he is a professor at the higher school of economics as well as author of the case of western civilization and resurgence of russia right gentlemen cross-like rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate. since

you wrote a book about the topic i will go to you first. we all read the article recent article by pat buchanan here what lies behind the melees of the west i thought it was a really fascinating article because he really kind of hit the nail on the head it's really about a crisis of confidence in many ways what's your take. which on this topic in previous segments i think it all goes back to the system we put together after the cold war it's been a very liberal format for globalization and over in nineteen ninety s. it was realized that it wouldn't work for everyone and it was flora sation between the elites the people i think in the european union we were able to. cover some of these problems through two thousand by simply ignoring referendums or making them vote again and keep expanding yeah but then something has happened over the last two or three years in which first we have the brics it. there's been some attempts to walked out bucket. brix it's really going to mean. the effort to essentially.

we don't know who created the president not really the president but we'll see the same problem in europe you can only hold about for so long before it comes out in different forms so that the only two powers left to hold iraq together as being france and germany but lois would see look at all i'm. not going very well michael a slow accept just a step. but only to be replaced with medicare to essentially if you know it's interesting because it's it seems to me that the they've relied more upon ideology than on leadership ok because the ideology is the substitution for leadership you know that i think that's an important part of the e.u. project specifically i mean this is backlash this is a neo liberal pro globalization pro globalist if you want to use that elite who

have forced. both economic and social. radical reforms on the peoples of europe and also the united states and canada over the heads of the people using you know these repeat referendums and repeat votes in the e.u. you're right the u.k. u.s. and canada using the distraction of identity politics and this is done with with a triangulated center right center left parties and we're finally seeing the backlash and it's coming from the far right and the far left as we've talked about repeatedly on the show and now we've seen outbreaks of it in the united states with the election of trump in germany with with the you know the. chancellor merkel having to stand down in the german elite just not knowing what comes after merkel and you know there her whole political party is being crushed in the polls right now because of. her you know mass immigration that she and one in

france rocked by protests against the then we're going to go look at the mirror a is it then we have made it easier to leave the hole in hungary romania you know team it interesting this whole ideology is predicated on destroying nations absolutely well and february and writes about what did he writes there toward to you to family tribe neighborhood culture and country and be a paramount rising above intellectual and political alignments well the problem is we teach intellectual lineman's what is being offered the people you know we have basically the same ultra liberal narrative bought mostly in the united states in the mainstream and in europe and you know what happened in france you know the problem is that there are too liberal state according to its ideology it's not doing anything in industry it allows big companies do it it's not doing anything in science what it is doing is say doing the rules of the game and you have so many

bureaucrats and they have to be busy every day so they invent for example if you will vests you know for some reason all of the people need to wear yellow masts in their cars and then what's the response from the people are you wanted to see yes you will see us but not only in the car us in the streets so it's a backlash against stupid rules against doing anything except sit in rule. is there any learning curve here i mean it seems to me it is the lead singer maintain their idea because their ideology is a new catechism and they can't adjust it in light of what's happening on the ground to normal people who think the e.u. is extraordinary incapable of doing anything about it because of all these situations built up on the idea that nationalism is inherently a bad thing and we have to elevate above it however this contempt for nationalism and it also often refer to tribalism it is strange because this is often assumed to be on the negative thing but to keep in mind. the nation state has been the most

the strongest vehicle to promote and human freedoms tribalism it's not inherently a bad thing i mean if you care more about their kids run them kids that's a good thing it like the social fabric it's the local level at the regional level the fact that they do that you would have the same affinity towards even in neighbors people are like us and some of the other side of the world is not human nature work will be great if we were this global village but you know it was because the idea was there's a tribe that counts most are these the ideology that is the driving crowd it's also a matter of political representation because we have this trans national all true wealthy ultra polluter privileged economic and political elite that associate with and get along with and have far more in common they were the cause more politan peers around the world than they do with their own people in their own countries wanted to make that recreate its own back like you know in charles dickens novel the because you have a character who cares about kids in africa kids in the ship he didn't in america

and she doesn't care about kids who are congregated that same cause so the idea is not that you don't care about us or about other nations they do of national state is if you can if you can't care about your own country about your own kids you won't be able you won't be able to properly care about those of us and this is the right message and last word on this you know i just said this is what i sense is the problem in brics that now because if you look at the people who want to remain there all the socialists are aligning themselves more with the elites so look at the speech from blair for example he's not saying let's respect democracy this is you know this is a pride of the english instead of saying listen. you have to help us to get out of this this vote and this is this is what is making a lot of people upset so even if they're able to overturn it imagine the. help to us of many when she went person here and here we i want to go and change just by media here. really. we're going to get justice in the united states go

well i mean the whole idea that basically you can plead guilty and get a reduced sentence for a crime that you didn't commit is just awful i mean it's cool it goes against the constitution of the united states the fifth amendment no one should be forced to testify against oneself but what happened with that is there they offered her this deal you know because of you and this is a solitary timeline or in california they were going to my opponent and violating the foreign agents basically a for poor student for toffs with all your rank republican all n.r.a. . officials or and they're on facebook and they've called her a spy for that you know spies don't want force they are big just on facebook but i am reading from the guardian you know someone named david smith writes in the headline russian spy in my review of books and you know pleads guilty in the u.s.

and it's amazing that first the head this charge that she was how did they put it she was getting their hair at. great insects for getting their hair the influence of variations we did is not we do is no evidence about where they drop it but please note where did all the western fame in years go when the when the woman whom the suspect of acting against them it's exactly you know where the bolsheviks bolsheviks talked about proletariat but if brought a tear and stand against them the bolsheviks about hardest on them the same stories here here's a woman who they suspect of being disloyal and the harsh her only crime is to choose russian here glenn if what i find more outrageous not only was she not given justice is that how many thousands and thousands of people in washington d.c. lobby for. foreign governments that are not registered with the government and they

get away with it are they right he. took my punch line more. well first in terms of the funding to spy you have to first go in the car information and hand it over to your which they did not you know your intelligence services and say it is show us and actually according to the according illegal information and you will select a handing it off to any or having this cult like within the so there's security officer so they get in this the spy the finish and the tails on both ends of what a spy is supposed to do and spy would be keen as far as you would not be willing to look when it seems to happen have happened that they wanted her to see an edgy and a becoming poster you know and this is as much a failure is it of the justice it is even more of a failure of the media constantly this refrain russian spy russian spy she is not accused of espionage she was not found guilty of espionage they have not accused

her of having any contacts with russian intelligence she hasn't acquired any information what she is accused of with this foreign agent register act is being an unregistered lobbyist she supported gun rights she supported gun rights in russia she was actually censored online and live journal her posts were blocked by the russian government which is not a fan of the american conception of rights for guns or whatever it is and if anything you know she has her and this patron of her as a banker. they are support gun rights in both countries they lobbied with the n.r.a. they also larger to the e.u. public all in public and she was as much of a vehicle of trying to force the influence of american gun culture on russia even more than the other way around but no you have a. little a few years ago. she would never have been the rest of the this is has to

be put in the context of the election of trump because they've been for so long enough trying to come with the smoking gun that trump is this russian agent then now it's funny how this russian coming along ask you met last june their press conference although it's not so gentlemen we're going to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion and some real mistake with our next. dimension and this is thirty five and you have a career and career involves using your i phone in your computer things like that in an office and perhaps you sort of getting headaches or getting fatigued you could have to stop doing all this and this kind of you look at the minutes must be

frightening my world became smaller and smaller and smaller until i ended up winning it and a pox. radical very strong magnetic field held in my head. think of it like a real hard pressure my skin burned and that wireless access point says continues on saying with our students in the school that. we are just continually taking our citizens in this microwave radiation it is certainly electro small and it's getting worse. you know world of big part of the lot and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door. shouting past each

other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now we're watching closely watching the hawks. welcome back to crossfire we're all things are considered peter lavelle remind you we're discussing some real news. ok glenn let's go back to the weaponization of the law. is not the only story in the news where the u.s. weaponized the law what's the what's the second well the second would be what has happened with the executive from hawaii and from china. she was also arrested in canada and this now waiting extradition to the united states and again this is also . you can argue there's also weaponized the law to similar extent this which was

done against money it would seem. to the extent that and we thought she would never been the rest they don't really arrest individuals for the the alleged crimes of their own companies on the personal crimes. but if your company has done they argue that they're broken some laws which which is controversial in its own you would go after companies started to rest. this is something new though the charge sort of it is absurd and it's obviously a political it's a kidnap for ransom she's accused of providing misleading information in your presentation to a just b.c. u.s. u.k. bank that facilitated a subsidiary companies no longer connected with her wise wealth transfer money transfers over the head of unilateral illegal u.s. sanctions which were all raised by you. and the security council resolution which

the u.s. also signed up to and this is is being presented no it's clear that this was planned months in advance we know this it was worked out with the canadian prime minister any protestations of innocence so we had to do it because of of you know the extradition request no it was planned they were looking at other ways to get her they were looking specifically at other things tech transfer and other things this is a shot across the bow at china at chinese companies and they picked one person that they could reach out and grab it and trump could not have made it more obvious when he tweeted out that this is political by saying look we could arrange your release as part of of leverage with a trade deal so much for you as you noted in your michelin to penetrate the communist era that was called telephone justice was it with meaning well i think the most alarming thing is when i want to leave the people stop in questions

because well of all with the board jeffrey sext all of the people you know and the lies that the rest of these chinese woman and he told in his article the war on why wait in two thousand j.p. morgan chase paid eighty eight million dollars and eleven for violating u.s. sanctions against cuba yet jamie diamond wasn't grabbed off the plane and we stand to castigate and appalled but two canadians at least as we speak were arrested by the chinese. a good china stands up and defends their national interests unfortunately we don't see the russian government doing the same over the case of maria kudos to china with that with a voice there is another of pretty but all down to bloomberg good who notices you know they're there and the final aim of all their separation please before. the

political persuasions of the author well he is the more style true liberal of all the russian ultra liberal authors who went to europe in the two thousand in one thousand nine thousand i used to put the story on their apartment bombings in which hundreds of people died you know that chechen terrorists then exploded several apartment buildings in was going he refused to put it on the front page because there's just some soviet people dead you know so these kind of person is concerned he's all you know you should go to these rates for bloomberg and he writes want to go he writes there it seems to be there the case is there they want to live there be known after what the u.s. intelligence community considers massive interference in their presidential election no unofficial back channel story russia will be directed and of course well this is really dangerous because unofficial back channel saved us from several real threats of nuclear war including security including that you let me tell you it's acquired on

a bad can channel verted the cuban missile. and then nine hundred sixty seven war you know when the israeli troops were getting calls to syria it was the back channel that saved the situation you know so that unit was ready to react it's interesting they want to make sure to something at least it seems that this is the trump administration it's a shot over everyone's bow simultaneously this is a very interesting of the end i think i've ever seen anything quite like it in the united states wants to be america first i understand that but it means at the expense of everyone else that is something a little bit different than what we're we've had before you're about to we are entering. choppy waters in times i mean if you look at the broad spectrum of what's really happened over the last few centuries has been that the west was really put in the driver's seat after the first industrial revolution in the. eighteenth century and since then you have the second was combustion engine the third with the computer chip a superconductor as. in the west as old as been in the drivers you know forget the

fire or. learn something different to stop me we have this huge industrial revolution with with artificial intelligence robotics all tonight it's not going the way just not to take a look only look at the west but the chinese are actually. have leadership in all this was suddenly after the first industrial revolution which is one hundred years later on killed off china and opium or slow ascension they're coming back into the driver seat so this is a huge shift in history and also for the first time with almost five hundred years the west and loose with losing its privacy so all of this happening at once as we discussed last week who is one of the companies leading this technological but if we mark if we just take the glen hansard of the said there the u.s. and its behavior is accelerating yes this year well they're not alleviated accelerating you know that the process is somewhat irreversible and with this global neo liberal capitalist architecture that they assemble that you know

globalization runs on they created it they don't have a really way of stop it they're desperate they're trying everything they can and this extra territorial extension of us laws laws which are recognized anywhere else like these unilateral sanctions not illegal in canada but canada acting as a as a pliant puppet state trudeau went ahead all he had to do. if he really wanted to avert it was make a call to china and say hey don't drop by my country and a maritime because i don't really want an international incident and now he's bitten off more than each jew because china is is by many measures now the world's largest economy and which canada is extremely you know you know depended on as as most countries are becoming and as we speak about you know that this is not the trade deal that a trump wants to make with the chinese the trade deficit only gets larger and it's not a levy it's getting larger this is after trump bra be true. with tariffs and the new

new nafta i want to shift gears something very important what's going on with the orthodox church in ukraine where all of the so-called conventional all day you were green and also the church took place in kiev it was presided for some reason by president poroshenko talk to me a bold separation of your lunatic yes a political figure official the real ukrainian author of the church please don't listen to western media when they call with russian orthodox church it's the ukrainian orthodox church dorna most from russia financially you know the boy their own bishops their metropolitan sits on the council of russian orthodox church no russian reporters are seated or they are signing up so this official ukrainian orthodox church protested these conventions they did that them all to bishops only two were forced to attend even though there were searches by their your green

security agency you know there was several people were arrested steele they didn't go forward to this convention they said it was not economical about the political event and what's the reaction in the western media i'm called france twenty four you know how did they report about it this morning they said that ukraine is finally coming out of russia although russia's influence although some ukrainians are still loyal to the long. march. so i'm going to quote that sums up the import of this you know what is actually happening behind the scenes here this patriarch of this separatist splinter ukrainian church filler and we stop until you know the last few hours when he was replaced he had a an awards ceremony this week where he gave in award specifically the order of st. andrew goes to jack divine who is

jack divine jack divine is the a former associate director of the sea i am a and giving him the award this this ukrainian patriarch quote unquote so thank you for our independence thank you for the creation of our unified autocephalous ukrainian orthodox church now he's previously also given an award to john mckay. over you know the porch and his support provided them there so i think that pretty much sums up what is actually going on with the laity reacting to this well i mean people are dismayed by that they're also they're also tell you fight because you have. facebook you have photos of these ukrainian priests you know there was even a flash more you know priests and their supporters pulled their inscription i am

radio for a surge by ukrainian security service and and we're talking about the old us you know just a few months ago there was a similar hero areas event for a sham for the ukrainian president gave the order. of the wise to general breedlove all the people of the new for supporting ukrainian independence the problem is that why stop at the edge of the brain it's not good at that which is in russia so if you are a slow divine voice told you no reception from his grave one thousand years later that he is a symbol of ukrainian independence and that he is all that was given to an american general but when it's also cleaned the last forty seconds here what's going on here is also an asset grab i mean churches are being sea seized and you and property being taken. misteries well i think it's to make the split more permanent because we have in the ukraine the american so support of the word. revolution back in two

thousand and four and again after they got stuck with your show you want to stay with us was horrible and they decided to go back to this idea that they should harm us relations between their up with the west and russia now pushing for just happens that the vast majority of cream is now believe more than seventy percent believe that the country's going the wrong direction so there is this something that could change their mind again and realized the mistake of this i didn't see near a need that he was trying to engineer this nation that we still have a nationalism without a nation were brought out of time here gentlemen many thanks to my guests here in moscow this is the end of our broadcast segment stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember.

yes this is how the. if we have a new trade arrangements with china that may build a new foundation for war stable relations i think broadly the there's of us as a problem. it's something the rise of china no matter what they do.

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