and people who still live under occupation because we believe that our celebration and our christmas it's our right it's our duty to have the best it's have to meanings one it's our fear and our feast and give us the duty to have the better and second our part is a celebration in christmas is focusing on bethlehem and on the palestinian territories and show the world that. there is still the occupation and the palestinian people will order the challenges that they are facing. and set a brit christmas and. there you go on living in this country with all the challenges with hope that the future will bring the peace in the area as mayor of bethlehem what can you do to help christians whose land has been stolen by israeli

settlers say in the commies and valley look what's going on in palestine is going against the palestinian people. and muslim and. there is no difference in the. israeli occupation policy concerning the palestinians i understand there was a conference backed by netanyahu and it was an israeli hotel in occupied land in bethlehem and american tourists came to look at the wall around bethlehem firs is that ireland is not going to come back to bite but land because better them is a palestinian city and under the palestinian national authority under law and they are what coming in not when come to come back to the city or already occupied the city where four hours something is not going to be and will not be on. we're going

to struggle against that because bettman is a palestinian territories and must be continue as a palestinian territories second i don't know the americans if there were around the city or there and through the city or were around the wall i don't know or we don't hear. and in general for us we insist that we are part of the palestinian people we are palestinians and our land is a palestinian territories and it's going to continue like this to be part of the palestinian state in the future of course netanyahu is saying that that is from the bible and the gospels of course which tell the christmas story that he told the congress u.s. congress that justifies the israeli occupation one r one tiny are on his press conference in jerusalem two months ago on. him by

a press release i published and i told him not to use the religious issues or my been draw marketing is policy in palestine or in the middle east second for us it's not accepted. and will never be accepted in the future and not any our home or say that he is the friend of christians because he's not a friend to anybody he's a compiler so and we never accept or will not and never let not any or any other leader israeli leader to speak about their policy and people it's time to question and and days i'll draw out of the point that it is to give the palestinian people their rights in having the. self-determination and state in building their state their future by the by ourselves. britain is being

required to weapons to the israeli government including sniper rifles to get to bethlehem do you have to go through israeli army checkpoints. as you know about the . area is divided in four or five zones. and nineteen sixty seven is it a confiscate the north side or bethlehem. and then continue in two thousand to one . wall surrounding the bethlehem governorate and also confiscated from the land of bethlehem another area the top ten area of bethlehem is six hundred and eight square kilometers the palestinian authority and the policy there people controlling. six seven point three percent of the total area zone a according to the last hour or so argument but the door and the rest area we speak about other around eighty seven percent of there is divided into different areas is

on sea which is under the full control of is that on which is sixty seven sixty five percent of the total area and zone. national reserve also twenty two percent under the control of israel it means that the palestinian people in bethlehem area living with thirteen point four percent of the total area around seventy kilometers out of six six hundred and it's working on meters on the edges seven percent around bethlehem it is there is not just eighteen settlement there is more than the. there is one hundred seventy thousand settlers living in the area and is available. now to build the new settlement in the south side of bethlehem call in a place called the national air and that and that is they want to build another one hundred one thousand two hundred settlement units it means that bethlehem is

selling from the north by the wall from the south and west and east by the settlements that was built by the israeli occupation israeli embassy in london never gives us any much of a comment to try and get their response to that any irony feel that there are u.s. evangelical christians coming to the city of bet. the ham this christmas they support the move of the u.s. embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem first. is jordan is occupied territories and to transfer there is an american embassy united states and the embassy to jerusalem its illegal procedures took by the americans and that means that is that american and the united states of america must. go back and dig. the from jerusalem back door to let it according to their

international. and according to the international law that said that is dualism is part of the occupied territories and it's under. jurisdiction of the fourth geneva convention that is not allowing the occupier to change the status of that or the cool make any changes demographic changes in the area and what happened last week in the general assembly and then i did nation with votes that voted for the palestinian sit a very clear opening in the world to fuel their nights sit. ministration procedures concerning the palestinian issues and the palestinian territories and the passing of people you must talk to some of the american tourists that are there for this christmas what do they tell you about their government's policies its record tourism apparently in bethlehem this year we spoke to the people there's

a lot of visited the city and. about. the united states' policy in the middle east and the people who are hearing us and understand what we are seeking and what we are planning for the. sure that they are against the policy that ignore and continue ignoring the palestinian rights and . in the future you were there at the siege of bethlehem as a negotiator a few years ago you could see britain is now exporting weapons to the israelis because things are better now than under the siege right in two thousand better than was under siege. by that is that our occupation for thirty nine days added continued after that of the siege of the nativity but but things are better britain is now sending more weapons than ever to

the israelis you can see britain saying things are better now than they were then. i want to say their weapons were this security forces that i was given the security for israel that is the peace with the palestinian people because. your neighbor is good and in good situation you will be in good so for us as a palestinian we are ready for peace to have equality in the area a very good neighborhood the relation to respect each other principles of independent freedom is jerusalem the capital of the palestinian state in the future when we speak about equality want to speak about the respect for lever or good relation it means give that give us their portrait to implement security for all people in the region without the continued the conflict will continue and

with all the work and they will have from the americans when in peace because the neighbors whom we are the palestinians are not in peace. so at the moment when bethlehem becomes the cultural capital of the arab world in twenty twenty you expect it still to be enclosed by eighteen illegal israeli occupation settlements and still surrounded by israeli checkpoints. look when we speak about our culture. it's back to the history of our city and for us we are going to send a bit. them to keep it off. of the arab world and we have our programs and our events in the city no matter what the. behavior of the occupation because we believe that celebrating them as part of the

capital bought up it's part of our struggle against occupation and show the world that we are people who are deserve to live deserve. their independence because we have a culture we are qualified our culture is a bit of music is all kind of cultures where our showing and giving that tension on our culture means that we are people and we are not a group and we are people who deserve to live in peace as other people and other nations and the mayor of bethlehem thank you after the break i have tomorrow as u.n. security council debate on palestine we speak to award winning well academy artist michael sample about why he sculpted jesus as a british on his radio sixteen pilot also more coming up in part two of going on the ground.

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welcome back the un security council sits today to debate the ever growing fallout of nature's longest war afghanistan where unknown numbers of afghans have perished in more than ten thousand british soldiers have been killed or wounded but afghanistan is just one of the country's experiencing the blowback from britain's humanitarian interventions and secret support for militants from libya to syria and yemen one artist you brushes away the hidden rubble of nature war mainstream media coverage is michael sandel his paintings etchings and sculpture look to criticize the heroic decadence of capitalism in its ever growing involvement in global conflict going underground deputy editor sebastian bag i went to speak to the multi award winning royal academy artist. look at television or read the newspapers it's pretty terrifying. i just think possibly quote. the truth. must be. planted in.

so you grew up in plymouth your house was bombed you think those bombs of reverberated through your your all work when i was in it we will record a bookman within one hundred forty one primitive gobo more than anywhere else in britain and you don't forget it i was was twelve years old. if your child is a spectacle and you think that's normality but you don't forget it campaspe forget it it's seeing your city in ruins. and also knowing that it was you know it was all now friends doing it i remember is it was yesterday so. i just think this is the these so all for it tells you so much of how he is he would beings all europe it's soaked in blood new thinking about how many

wars there were in the twentieth century with just the second world war something about one very unpleasant horrible wars to one it was spawned another one of your scopes is a twentieth century memorial yes can you tell me why you decided to change the name here's a cow molecular tell you why it was i was inspired to do it i was in berkeley compassed with some friends that nixon had expanded the war by putting mines in the haiphong delta in this stupid riot i was in middle of a riot was put down with some force by the national guard and those were running away and the rubber bullets and abuse hurling and tear gas i thought oh somebody's got to do a sculpture above you know a lot of thought then with the sinking feeling oh god it's going to have to be me.

and i did a lot of homework. and i thought the americans were the bad guys is that the jerk reaction so i'm going to call it a big key mouse monument for america it was going to have to be mouse and machine gun i do some homework and i found out to my amazement that the war in that was caused by the british. this is a sort of fact. in the it was the athlete government. just to be to after v.j. day the attlee government said the british general who general douglas gracie was small contingent of indian troops in his. will to take the surrender of the japanese forces who had occupied the no i told him no account get involved in the politics but he did just that he thought that the meeting was a puppet of the chinese communists they were no where near it no effect the north

pole was underneath the jurisdiction of the chinese nationalists anyway instead of rounding up the japanese a policeman president of the nine hundred forty five british of the japanese force alongside each other. forced hoti bin who was a nationalist into the arms of communism and into the jungle also. he also the dogs with these indian troops also sprung the interned french guards the japanese interned and the french was alongside us and bush uniforms we used it for us against even the mes when i tell people this their mouths full open anyway i thought we cut i can't possibly blame the americans long cold it is a dream a moral for general perfidy and general stupidity not just americans it is also why i did the blair drawing it will at least go clean away with it

a bucket erected of blair's good i mean you see i thin me expose him in new your ugly around tripoli because i find him so disgusting in his hypocrisy it's a lot of my work is against hypocrisy come bear it so he pretends he's found jesus on the way you have his so saved when you go to heaven they want you to burn in hell and became a peace and that is the whole point i did i was interviewed over did a peaceful the only magazine. and is it to have tourney as a peace envoy in the middle east is like having king herod as a child by a girl on the left on panel this couple paying who who did prisoners and beat the two as simply the old hopefully by different selves and

entertain his mates and i'm thinking about the war in iraq which exercised me was all puffy it because i'm convinced that tony blair went to war because of vanity. and in need of done. on of us thought in many ways we're a bit like vishy fronts you know the french pretend they had nothing to do with the persecution of the jews because they did. so we didn't have to go persecute the rockies because that was attempted regime change. the regime just as we know is a kind of. look at look at libya look at something that was isis came because of the power vacuum and then you go. getting rid of saddam hussein would seem to be a terrible mistake he muttered being a monster away and he was a bulwark against radical islam and this peace in iraq the sound of your silence i

mean always he's commenting on the election process he's made by the british army base also talking about the silo vote that when the point is the the war in iraq is . with its catastrophe. millions of whatever how many iraqis double deliberate and more the people say. yes the the the sculptural i didn't know how to finish it i thought it would be a totally different culture but then i thought on the internet they further growth of a woman to carry her baby with others has bled off. and bandages i thought this is where i'm going to go and do a lot of research and usually a lot of the rocky prisoners with bags on their occluding bags put on by the british this is a very long just asian period the sculpture. ended up as appear to the reason these

of course because of again. against hypocrisy the same for the diary a mild of hypocrisy. in the world that had put christie in foreign policy is examine in the sculpture behind us that yes this is this is it you see. we are told that all i see is. cutting heads off with was knives but we cut heads off with droves of asteroids many ways it could be argued that ethically or more morally superior to cut somebody fall through the pedal with a knife i could do it but up there but you will particularly if the if you're in the i.d.f. the israeli defense force you flying over gaza you could be in an object your perfect safety dropping bombs killing those five children of the problems doing it that actually was the inspiration of the work when i when i when i saw

a project growth of the children from seventy four laid out five of them i thought gold out of that monthly suppose it was my daughter who my daughter's in that there's a portrait of her in that and then i thought well i don't want to attack this isn't really jesus i don't want to this is or tuck all of this by and is based on but i think all the lights of the by the light of the world but i thought in many ways it would be a powerful statement of five point zero the fact that we do it to be done throughout history but cutting heads off with. a burning people alive is what we do with missiles and you know it's is pretty disgusting. right phosphorous i read about the trial to go with it the doctors were horrified because steam was

coming out of the trial viewer and white phosphorus it is no hope for the they said they didn't use the course of all depleted uranium pickle so they don't of course they do and they kill first of all the brothers didn't realize that when you think about it it was astonishing. connection to a dream of greed cruelty stupidity of a huge amount of money great from rush to people alive the work i'm most proud of is the multiple siege memorial. when i go to a mall to go round trip a cup in morgan's ship and i look up and i am sick with pride and the reason i got this commission is quite interesting because i used to go drinking in the very first job i had it lester in a pub called job wayne book thirty years later i got a letter from the. new veterans association is being set up called the george cross

i love association an eye of the president of the maritime brown branch what short career. they want a memorial to the convoy that saved most of the of the coding operation at a school pedestal when i actually got the monument finished after four years it was such a privilege working with these veterans i thought about the money. i thought that's it i mean. i was proud of and i was one of the b. of architect so you sure that destruction of your heart meant when you when you listen and you wanted to be a crater in a way or you think you've got to go through you know you can't just but it's so incredibly important part of our history and we're heading towards sleepwalking probably into the other war we're living in very very dangerous times of i'm convinced i worry about my children close. or not to be here but they're going to

be the. this history just tend to repeat itself. a lot of something people who when they just seem to lack imagination. when you think is a misery call the misery of the second world war the misery see what i hate is all these empty russian propaganda because those that actually want the war the twenty eight million died which is why we don't speak german. there's a conservative published politician was a german they've got to be that these are was. bad mouthing russia i think this is a saying this is i thought this is a pity that the letter b. of putin wasn't cold roman and twelve stephanie peter why razz putin.

award winning royal academy are. going on. so back in there that's of the show and they will have a review of the. media will be back on. the day that i. think. if we have a new. china may build a new foundation for. i think broadly the. problem. no matter what they do.

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it. was. taken a little bit and that was it was sunday and they don't know yet what. the any. a. poor job. the headlines this hour the russian foreign ministry gets out of the b.b.c. saying its work smacks of cynicism that often leads messages one of their reporters says her editors are out for blood in their attempts to find links between the kremlin and yellow best move the gallup.