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done action or times you know what you're going underground two years to the day old trump was elected president of the usa coming up on the show with the eighteen a year that arguably signals the decline of western capitalism we revisit the most important stories of the year for us going to make the british will start people to see the windrush scandal the true scale of which is still yet to be joining me to go through some of the is job stories as well as look at a twenty nine his. liberal democrat member of parliament pick right over the u.k. is top independent news site the canary steve trouble and coldness with a fully giant push their own new york observer under a walker welcome feel one and all let's begin steve with this you know how will the happy story right at the top not so happy story now so this is from the telegraph that are near and i. love the murder rates higher than new york as police investigate sites by stabbing and capital this year this was a four out of the south of the knife crime and epidemic eye for eye which really
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hasn't actually come true if you look at the figures now when i was there you know it is terrible and the murder rate is higher than it has been in previous years regarding me as a recording this as a hundred thirty one in the capital now new york is south of two hundred seventy three so while there has been a increase in violent crime which has been on the up since about twenty ten it's now hasn't panned out in the why that the press were predicting it was going to go serve or i'm just thinking this was to be in a constant close the public i will tell you something in new york people are jumping for joy obviously new york's a very different place to look but. of course absolutely the idea that new york was safer than that well look at you know i think it's been embarrassing hasn't the way the city columns bleated all about this and clearly absolutely incapable of dealing with any problems these are people he said he's just somebody who is only capable of complaining about not having anybody he doesn't seem to do the thing else and the other thing that annoys me about this story is policing itself we spend our lives listening to the police going well. we are now more todd first time we've
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ever been before we're all i'm catching with communities how about you stop people knifing each other the reading going to be as lots of contacts in this big zero as you do the economy with that about the great mass of the other this isn't my fault action will arguably it's not essentially cons fault either the man but he did say something quite interesting he wants a road deaths in the city but he wants to bring knife crime down to acceptable levels not that doesn't sound of voices you have a sense of or you know if you six more is acceptable you didn't define it but that's it's not always it was it always struck me with modern police say that if i went out in south london tonight i'd stop somebody bent drove home with defective brake lights i would definitely be arrested but it wouldn't be for the stopping that is a sad state of affairs where ever and also the class element of all these stories no one's actually saying you know all in mayfair this seems to be very little cool can do something about this is a school called oasis which is right in the middle of one of the highest crime rate
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areas high stopping errors they've actually reduced to zero amongst the children you can do something about she said you saw stabbings to zero to school get yep but a lot of those children would otherwise be involved in the right there you say you can do something about it but if you look at the figures the story they go through peaks and troughs i mean it's highest as i've said before on the show was done to tony blair in two thousand and three two hundred country goes to war let's go to the next story andre take us through this terrible bullet actually which led to the personally there is a lot of well i'll try and i have to say so i'll read it to you on the far home secretary on the road presides over when first god please god there is a dreadful dreadful old leftist you know i started this and that's all i'm doing is right so it's great that she's it's great that she wrote it to bomb syria the bedroom tax disability testing and raising look even raising welfare level prices look a lot of everything's relative right everything's relative so so i refer to as a dreadful old life they left but said but look here's the interesting thing about this when for scandal the most important thing all of them all east. for years and
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years and years we've taken no action whatsoever over illegal immigration it's been perfectly possible to go to the enablers windrush able to do without me let me say i know what the hate what about it i don't like them so i guess i have no job and so far as a final thought i was paid not been a slight problem with one or two people who shouldn't have documentation when they initially came into the countries paying knows all this nobody has been deported over the scandal it's been discovered it's basically told it's a cup one so we should just completely ignore you saying this in the event i think didn't try some people they didn't try to deport some people look i've had people on my show exactly who said that i did you have to not be that mind that as you well know there are tens of thousands of illegal migrants in the in this country i did nobody has taken any action suddenly we have the good. stories about but also about making it difficult for a legal limits them as well as saying you met somebody is going to have a long chop he actually lived here longer than me because he came here when he was four and he's now about sixty and he was told he has no go but he's not
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a rhodes fault that he didn't give him the paperwork when he arrived in the hole i see behind that ok that doesn't mean there is a maze well it was a boy and i was ready for the hostile i got away with me but i just got to be about the whole style of higher design you've covered about and it's a good idea what have you we have cited about you that you know my site it's disposed towards those most probably for the people who live in communities no people have been deported over i have read exact have very large relationship who was subject to something like this so i know all about it i live in the community which is very mixed ethnically and i doubt people who have been subject to the you know somebody who's been deported over the ice has this godless about deporting people who are you know this is not just about this story though it's really on the right is now back in the well so may this is the bigger story that this. woman has been brought back as secretary of state of the twelve work and pensions so it seems human sat watching them walk into a job six i welcome both agree that she should be back in government well i guess i would say the resignations they've had everyone gets to be a minute by the running out. levin answer the cyclist crowd give you far more
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important story than work and pensions disability rights and the mass deportation of people of color this is someone of color here this is actually what we did out here right royal happy times here after the independent reported royal wedding guests told to bring their own picnics to meghan markle and prince harry's celebration i know you were jumping for joy when this wonderful happy royal occasion occurred earlier in the air although when we watch this and i'm sure you could share that with us as well look at the joy in your face of the riddle of going to love them nuns are serving calla terry and they said bring a picnic and ok maybe some rough sleepers were asked to move on at the time it would have maybe brought down the occasion a little bit but this is the quality of all right we're only children move on they were sort of imprisoned or detained or all deported so it was a gentle reminder not to muddy the pavements at the time it was a happy day it brought the country together gave millions worth of taxpayer money
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worth of do you want me to be interested in the story and story yes of course yes wonderful. it's in capture writes the classism winds are not originally from windsor bridge and from manchester to move all. of the town i think put on a great day but i think we were fully embarrassed by the cross and insensitive comments of the lead to the council outside dudley who has in the past been a friend of mine but it has to be said the way that he said that they should have basically what he sacks to shouldn't be selling like that and said no he said the homeless people should be cleared off the streets because i would like to look at them who of course is hugely embarrassing and how you make and have said no such thing and i think he really thought of how the only chad in shame as a result of this is strictly such commercial people are great ambassadors for this country and i would point out to you that the monarchy used to be grounds for treason exit of a lot of this job and suddenly say no one goes to paris because they exit. it is
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but it is one good piece of news to me which is you know there is hope for ginger people ok i look on day let's go to a much more important story he was involved this shadow was involved parent lee because we got the exclusive on it and. this surrogate script i was still was in the spy guy is that why i was poison new york times new york times article not no not new york observer of what do you make of this highly likely kremlin hit about its own doubts of the truth when most cack handed kremlin hits since a lot of the credit what amazes me about all our own cause a lot of it pretty said is everybody thinks he's a really dangerous and scary man look if gulping off was a sports that he'd be the best it let me get your average forty year old schoolyard bully were pretty good look he attempts to poison somebody insults break and accidentally kills a trump how do you know like he had ten assume he attempts to take over. the fence take over ukraine and that only has the ball naval base which frankly was part of that was
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a house i mean how do you not go let you know russia well did you sing or should you say those ten russian agents people who wrote or were mocking them for being also the ridiculous well i've been told is that the kremlin was so embarrassed about how terrible these two agents were but we force them to go and see him and someone overseas doesn't like aspire insoles really just one quick question how do you know all this if you're so sure why has there been no trial why that has as there been no inquiry i think that is why would putin ok i just said is an arch enemy of goodness be so rubbish at choosing his to be a body that they screwed up this piece look because that was about it on the issue of blood to my parents and when it comes to anything other than stealing russian state resources the months the early incompetence but you know he spent the second second term of president only doing all the reform. he needs to take this country used to rule ukraine now they've got this about their out war with georgia and i'm gone with georgia if the man is the most living with all its don't get useless old norma session on but those who can come. get what he wants how come we've got
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donald trump as president in america because he's going to be with me i did not tell anyone i think i'm going to go to steve i mean a distraction or and i should just say that in the integrity initiative papers which we will be going into the second half of this show. apparently introduced to the security services here is named in it but what do you think generally about the story but i think evident out of storage i personally don't think it was necessary russian state involvement or no concerns i was on the russians because they evidence is not conclusive yet but i mean this is the story behind these two russian gentlemen more holes than swiss cheese and that's apparently they arrived in in cells where it's eleven fifteen am around that time actually his response yes two hours after this guy knew this cripple actually left their home for the diaries how they managed to get this in over choke on a door handle and so when you discover what even at the premises we haven't found them i have to say we've been drawing journalists presumably all of the country anyway them bit let's go to well it was to give up marine you're right now but
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britain did try to destroy a mother football career yes i noticed a little girl aware of this but we had a world cup this year and twenty eight well cup twenty eighteen england fans warned of possible anti british sentiment in russia this is all part of the same tsunami of darkness which was partly spreading towards us from russia we were told that there would be the terrible look of terrible danger terrible well company told it be disorganized and that be violence in the streets surprise surprise the fans who did not have the political bias and i came back saying we really love the russians an overly well organised old mysterious of suspiciously well organized so now let's criticize russia for doing too well they said let's get back to them so you know those. i thought i would the papers warning lish friends not to go well well i think i think you could be fair about they still has been a lot of trouble with crowd violence across europe so. i mean there was problems
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when british teams went to ukraine this well i'm not so possibly or at least that's not the moment so look i think i think that we were we were right to be concerned about crowds i don't think for many years i don't think there was ever a sensible suggestion the british people would be some sort of spoiled is it with a this word out there that i've got hundreds of football read to have already already bought the foreign office has issued. i'm not the foreign office all i can tell you all i saw in office my own personal opinion i think there was no there was never any concern about the russian states itself i don't think there was any reason to be can said up into russia i would be concerned about the four of us as a terrorist attack so from the foreign office and. other that we jump ship when they can see that's what i see here quite often limited but steve will go after the break as we look ahead to twenty nine.
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dimensions again six thirty five if you have a but career ending career involves using your artificial in your computer things that had been in an office. perhaps the sort of things in excess are kids. going to have to stop doing all this i mean this is kind of you look at the minutes before that my world became smaller and smaller and smaller intel i ended up winning it and. a very strong magnetic field. in my head. it's like a real heart my skin and wireless access point and it's just continuous. on scene with our students in this school it's. just continually
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our citizens in this microwave radiation it is certainly electro small and it's getting worse. what is the. that's kind of. the global back in two thousand and eight it was the two thousand and eight subprime crisis. today i think we can safely say that the bubble popped but the collapse. welcome back i'm still here with steve double and andre walk let's go steve with you to this amazing reform of a terrible welfare state by the government your article yes so the d.w.p. has been forced to admit people are dying under universal cry this is a story that even though universal credit has not been fully rolled out yet across
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the country the d.w.p. is already having to investigate its involvement in four people stepped up to the benefits. don't bark and try to say from the damning national audit office reports to former work and pensions secretary estimates i have to admit that several million families would be up to two hundred pounds a month worse off under universal credits have to be actually lost and those found that the benefit does discriminates against severely disabled people so it's been in cairo since it was implemented but to be honest when something is so broken in the first place it's going to be impossible to fix it under a good way to deter people from taking wilfer in the first place by killing them well one would hope so but on the serious note it's on the surface out. there are a couple of issues here first of all that part of what complexions like most government departments is also the dysfunctional so i think reform of that is important however the idea that first of all you should be paid more to have a job than be on the double i think it's a good principle that there should be a maximum to what you can claim i think is a good principle. i think also the principle which not necessarily relates it's
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nice but but what you cannot get a more proper say on the taxpayer than you would have got if you work for yourself you think it was a good principle then well you know i'm sorry i don't know you said jerry but if you don't know i mean only from having a job which was the position in the past how would i how does that think about having more money getting a job than being on benefits when i was on second if i had only unwelcome papers about it so that someone sees them what is the maximum that you can claim on the court system what is it thirty three thousand a year that means you have to worry forty five thousand a year as mean as they actually are these are the subsidized by a well we do we need to we need a guideline as well as the government so i did that as well the idea that you can place slavery wages a place like starbucks and then the government bails you out with that we think i'm supporting it was also known as i was going out that's not working out of that because if you look at koch i was a month ago for universal credits for single mothers had to take the government to court because it ended up that even though they worked under universal credit they were well itself still pending that is universe so so so high on the second how
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many people we've got on the social in this country and your father for examples of people who are probably the only look up with the idea it might be like but the idea that you don't like old limited amounts of money to people and the fact we punish people you have a job your publisher that these are for because you are and i think you're going to get it is going to help you times have it all good thing you were going to go it's all about you ignoring a basic point made by all three of us to you which is many of the people who are getting this benefit are already working they can't get more now i'm guessing that i can sosa's like you would agree with a massive increase in the minimum wage that's make it fifteen pounds an hour is that your old i'm not only not going to take several but again seven is i one of the things annoying is that you forget what i said the hike added a hike in the minimum wage i've no problem whatsoever and i'll tell you why the problem that we're going to miss the drays again we have we have dieted out in this country all mass immigration and low wages and it will still work the fact of the matter is if you live in london or the. the reason why you can go to
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a coffee shop and the guy gets paid minimum wage is because you're subsidizing housing but i think i'm support joe i think these coffee shop company should pay the commensurate amount ok and i'm not i'm not a guy so the economic way that other we've already seen just want to tax these great multinationals out of business i'm not a very very socialist. lembit good one is quite right it's good to annex in this ridiculous report i'm drawn to it made me think which made presage or leaving the united nations who knows what absolutely express reported box around again yes britain and lambast wholly inappropriate un report on poverty in the u.k. short version here is that the un said there were millions in poverty in this country and she said and i quote that sort of language is totally inappropriate and actually discredited a lot of what he was saying that's what she said well it's great to see her back having done her brief time maybe on universal credit. and she's basically saying
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it's not as bad as it looks maybe we've never had it so good not many people agree with that if you're at the bottom of the pile on a little bit less than seasoning where does this go well the u.n. is a bit more political than people make out but at the same time you don't think poverty is built well we know it is political and we know that food banks are a record high the dependence on them has never been higher in this country so what she's saying what the u.n. saying i'm voting for the u.n. on this one what do you think the u.n. could have gone further perhaps doing it always go for the remainder of the camp where i think is an effectively toothless organization of fortune very and that's i was making but look the very concept of the story is that this is now the fifth u.n. report since june twenty sixth a new government they've been to from the u.n. committee on the rights of persons with disabilities one which says the government adds created a human catastrophe for the people in this country by doing great and systematic violations of their human rights but the problem is we keep having these u.n. reports as i say it's a fifth one and nothing happens because legally the government does not have. do
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anything they can ignore what the un says them so they have nothing to say here we don't recognize that she said she called his language extraordinary political and just dismiss report out of hand and there's literally nothing that can be done i think we need to recognize the difference between what the u.n. is saying way and you cannot deny this report on the four ones that go before us whether the u.n. is actually fit for purpose now i'd agree with you to an extent that is going to do this which arguably is certainly for us on this program going to go it was a it was quite a shocking story to end the year with fake news or otherwise daily record reported secret scottish based office that info was attack on labor and jeremy called but this is all about is a rather cryptically named group called the institute for statecraft which apparently got money from the foreign and commonwealth office the f.c.s. of state money tax and minister defense british army major lithuanian in moody us state department in order to try to counter the russian propaganda and anybody who
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seems to be supporting russia. jeremy call been potentially always attacking wish you all the time you know not according to this law actually this think tank is quote supposed to counter russian online propaganda by forming clusters of friendly journalists and then making the point so save your own firing line here is how much money if you go from the institute for state where the foreign office and the taxpayer. money comes from putin i thought you knew that it goes wrong the red phone in my in my office for the night but the real thrust of this story is the attack the canary but this thing we do not know that this is for me the underlying actual story here is not that this is happening because of a. skiving on them in the u.k. turning against friendly countries like spying for example trying to disrupt the so in that country all across europe again bernie sanders is involved a exactly that's a very straight with a real campaign a real story this is of course what i'm doing that i haven't told us because i do not. this extensive it's the day we're trying this of the twitter against jeremy
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colvin that's as far as it goes i don't think that's a real story and if you look at it duncan his conduct in parliament where he was constantly deflecting away from the issue in even the canary was named. the what's called been here because one of the things he discovered an article say that unlike galloway forma m.p. george galloway corbett does not scream can spare is he implies it was dangerous people like you need to watch out for that your friend. dave let's go to the next story some sort of earthquake. destroys this i don't even know why we're going to go watch to get in it knowing this is all in here obviously. his hold on the surveys the u.k. fracking polls the guy off the largest quite get this is the news that that's holier than thou frank and company up in preston new roads where they are commonly driving for shadow gas they've had more than fifty trams now their knowledge of those was magnitude one point five just last week as well as we are recording and
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every time there's an earthquake over eight point five magnitude they have stopped ringing frightening as it's the government's regime and that's it's a traffic light system but it poses was a questions about why the questions about the substance of fracking industry. its campaign is saying carex that this is this fracking and it's for juices i guess it was because i do since because it was but also they day it's expose the calling of corporatists corruption if you die between the governments and the fracking industries you have claire perry the energy minister having secret meetings with fracking companies i know a little bit smaller but i wonder just what the same we do all of you we still feel it as a puzzle filled climate changes us to good and blackpool illuminations one fair benefit the other thing that i feel very very strongly about our somebody comes from the likes of coal field you know i would point five seismic events on the richter scale east north of the earthquake right you could probably sits on top of it not notice that the seas in that area the ice. to earth tremors and alterations
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in the substructure to suggest anything more than what happened before he's not clear but you think that six hundred million people are idiots yes i do very actually i actually think that the issue here is that the eco lobby is talking about numbers of people don't understand when making more of an earthquake by shouting at each other then knowing five or so i thought about it i know it's a low gridley scale that. some impressed have thought if you actually read anything on this because you obviously haven't done stand the point is not the fact there has been a one point five magnitude earthquake is not an earthquake the fact is that the very social and firstly stanford university in first of all know this gentleman paid styles former advisers the u.k. government they both sides of the magnitude happening that is the constant fact that the earthquakes therefore undermine the structures that are already there india plus the lancashire fracking sites are sat on the sites of previous coal mining activities anyway it's in question that increase earthquakes as they are will then go on to lead to lower taxes or they just can i do fear the second but i
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don't think about it i merely shallowly the fact that right drill is a just stop drilling means that earthquakes are actually good for helping the environment because they're stopping with wells up to you'll never get your job around it anyway ok let's go to the story obviously britain is really obsessed with the meds and struck by a link at dover and food shortages. whether you take us through this ok u.k. government proposed to spend two billion on drugs it prep no deal looms look i think it's fair to say and i think everybody in the studio is going to agree but we defied the incompetence by the go show you showed over leaving the european union and the big problem is of course that i have perfect strong and stable and having a very yeah i think it's great and i look deal of respect for people who believe in leave i have a great deal of respect for people who believe in remain but i think the big problem is we to reach them and she's not negotiating how little of the european union we can leave and still still call it brags that. and i think that is from the
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battle of the problem and i can only quote from the great train by the spirits who said you know what i always feel better when i wake up in the morning thirty nine billion pounds better off i think that is important so you know other pub chains are venerable lembit what's wrong with an eternal backstop when we are subject to european law where we had strong and stable last election not because smooth nor the divorce i don't know any divorce it's a smooth and orderly i think she's been optimistic but i have to say the sneaking respect for the reason may because she's still there she said once bracks that means he was at the even respect for the person that he had because she's still there who would have thought that she had to survive this fall because in the very anything it's almost like said you fail to eradicate cancer of god go i go i've got respect for cancer can still fail to eradicate breck's in her case even let us have an ordinance a green. happy they do you pete is basically in the running in you that he is not ranger is an absolutely brilliant one here they got
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a billion pounds from him then they said but you're not going to back you anyway wonderful work there but this makes it even more impressive to reason may still impose running what amongst a minority government delivering five hundred eighty five pages of nothing essentially remain i agree with you on that and she was still in post at least for me recording this program is the same to the next element out say well i've noticed that thing that makes me laugh is the idea that you could be so bad as a conservative and you notice that the do you support kid citric supports incorporated i mean i can. see out the fundamental bases on the left and on the right because it breaks it was democracy in the overview would be lost in all of this but i've had the first post as always going to the referendum but essentially being put in a position where was that during a rock and a hard place you have the corporate is e.u. which is governed by goldman sachs and we have no say in its democracy which i'm arguing for or you're stuck with the conservative party running the shambolic breaks it's on the on the elected house of lords. having on the final say is over
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which is what we're saying now the problem is it's never been with bricks at the me because i'm with you or your camp with this we should leave european union far better off then i think in twenty years top will be glad we did but it's been the managing of it by the conservative party which has been the issue that's because there's no issue with the new you have an issue with the shambles that's a result that well if you look at i mean twenty nine g. in looking forward to joining the anti obviously project fear of the liberal democrats your leader vince cable who i remember that you know will. rationing is not the message for this defendant would you what do you think is going to be the stories of twenty one i think the big story will be if anyone can ever prove anything about ten. in the trump election but my prediction is that in december twenty nine thousand will be very close to a vote on it. i believe that what we're looking at this year for twenty nineteen is the great betrayal which is what we will even be forced to continually vote until we agree to stay in the european do you think the british model of sound either
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kind of no i think you might think but what i'm hoping for is they say that in the referendum what's the old versus remain thoughts we all don't vote and there's a forty percent turnout ninety percent in favor of it made on the effectively no confidence is the british state which i think would make it a much more interesting proposition. protectionists i think we would see the biggest year so far for increase protests and demonstrations not least about climate change i think the yellowjackets movement in france and the extinction rebellion movement over here is just the beginning the government is going to be facing protests it hasn't seen in many many years steve happy new year merry christmas all that stuff and that's it for the show on saturday with legendary journalist and filmmaker john pilger until then keep in touch by social media back and so the twenty nine years to the day the reopening of the brandenburg gate on the edge of the linden just next to the u.s. embassy officially ended the division between east and west but.
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the u.s. senate struggling. with the shogi murder and calls for an end to the american involvement in the war on yemen is this a defining moment for this bilateral relationship will so-called values trump card political realities. the sentencing of don't transform a national security adviser for lying to an f.b.i. investigation into alleged russian collusion related once again look at how his case is tainted by was treason meddling. on one of the phone.

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