tv Going Underground RT December 19, 2018 9:30am-10:01am EST
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all in all let's begin steve with this the happy story right at the top not a happy story now so this is from the telegraph that are near and i. love the murder rates higher than new york as police investigate thirty first stabbing and capital this year this was a four out of the south of the knife crime and murder epidemic of florida which really hasn't actually come true if you look at the figures now when i was there you know it is terrible and the murder rate is higher than it has been in previous years regarding me as a recording this as hundred thirty one modes in the capital now new york is south of two hundred seventy three so while there has been a increase in violent crime which has been on the up since about twenty ten it's now hasn't panned out in the why that the press were predicting it was going to go serve or i'm just thinking this was to be the constant close the public i will tell you something in new york people are jumping for joy obviously new york's a very different place to look good but what we all of course absolutely the idea that new york was safer than looking that well look at you know i think it's been
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embarrassing hasn't it the way the city columns bleated all about this and clearly absolutely incapable of dealing with any problems these are people who say he's just somebody who is only capable of complaining about not having anybody he doesn't seem to do the thing else and the other thing that annoys me about this story is policing itself we spend our lives listening to the police going well we are now more diverse than we've ever been before we're all gauging with communities how about you stop people knifing each other the reading gave a little bit as lots of context in this big zero you do the economy with that about the great mayors of the other this isn't my fault action. arguably it's not essentially cons fault either the man but he did say something quite interesting he wants a road deaths in the city but he wants to bring knife crime down to acceptable levels not that doesn't sound of voices yet or you know if it. was acceptable he didn't define it but that's it's always it was it always struck me with police say that if i went out in south london tonight. i'd stop somebody men drove home with defective
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brake lights i would definitely be arrested but it wouldn't be for the stopping that is a sad state of affairs where and also the close element of all these stories no one's actually saying you know all in mayfair this seems to be very little cool can do something about this is a school called oasis which is right in the middle of one of the highest crime rates areas high stopping years they've actually reduced to zero amongst the children you can do something about she said so stabbings to zero to school get a lot of those children would otherwise be involved in the right there you say you can do something about it but if you look at the figures the story goes through peaks and troughs i mean it's highest as i've said before on the show was done tony blair in two thousand and three two hundred country goes to war let's go to the next story. take us through this terrible bullet actually which that they are personally that is a little off the well i got right when i have to say so i'll read it to you on the far home secretary on the road resigned so when first god he's going to syria is a bad tried for the old leftist you know absolute can't stop this and that's all
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i'm saying is right so it's great that she's it's great that she's you know just a bomb syria the bedroom tax disability testing and raising look even raising welfare i will prices look a lot everything's relative right everything's relative so so i referred to was a dreadful of life this left but said but look here's the interesting thing about this when for scandal the most important thing over them all for years and years and years we've taken no action whatsoever over illegal immigration has been perfectly possible to go to the end what has windrush got to do without me let's revisit i know at the highway what about it i don't i'm sure back inside knowledge of how insofar as a train of thought was paid not been a slight problem with one or two people shouldn't have documentation when they initially came into the code phrase paying knows all this nobody has been deported over the scandal it's been discovered it's basically goldman it's a cop one said we should just completely ignore it usually it doesn't get very nice it didn't show me some people they didn't try to deport some people look i've had people on my show that said that they did tend not to their mind that as you well know there. tens of thousands of illegal migrants in this u.k.
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in this country i did nobody's taken any action suddenly we have the. trees about but also about making it difficult for illegal a little bit more saying you met somebody is going to have a long chop he actually lived here longer than me because he came here when he was four and he's now about sixty and he was told he has to go but he's not a rhodes fault that he didn't give him the paperwork when he arrived in the hole i see behind that ok that doesn't because there is a maze well there's a boy and i'll tell you the hostile i got away with me but i just had to go to the wholesalers i desire you covered about and it's a good idea would have you would have thought it was you know my side it's disposed towards those most probably for the people who live in community you know people who've been deported over i have read and so have very large relationship who was subject to something like this so i know all about and i live in the community which is very mixed ethnically and out people who have been subject to the you know somebody who's been deported over this godless about deporting people who are you know this is something about this story that we're slowly on the right is now back
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in the well so maybe this is the bigger story that this. woman has been brought back as secretary of state of the twelve work and pensions so it seems human sat watching them walk into a job can both agree that she should be back in government well i guess i would say the resignations they've had everyone gets to be a minute but they're running out of lebanon so the cyclists without giving them far more important story than work and pensions disability rights and the mass deportation of people of color this is someone of color here this is actually what we did out here right royal happy times here actually. reported royal wedding guest told to bring their own picnics to meghan markle and prince harry's celebration i know you were jumping for joy when this wonderful happy royal occasion. in the air although when we watch this and i'm sure you could share that with us as well look at the joy in your face as he read all about going to last them runs us so we got to terry and they said bring a picnic ok maybe some rough sleepers were asked to move all. at the time it would
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have maybe brought down the occasion a little bit but this is the quality of all right we were only children move on they were sort of imprisoned or detained or all deported so it was a gentle reminder not to muddy the pavements at the time it was a happy day it brought the country together save millions worth of taxpayer money worth of do you want me to be interested in the story i'm sorry yes of course yes wonderful and it's in capture writes the classism winds are not originally from windsor bridge and from manchester mutual to move on. to. the tower when i think put on a great day but i think we were fully embarrassed by the cross and insensitive comments of the lead to the council outside dudley who has in the past been a friend of mine but it has to be said the way that he said that they should have basically what he sacks they shouldn't be selling like that and said that no he said the homeless people should be cleared off the streets because i would like to look at them because he's hugely embarrassing and how we make and have said no such thing and i think he really ought to of how the only chad in shame as
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a result of this is strictly such commercial people are great ambassadors for this country and i would point out to you that both of them only used to be grounds for treason x. of august recess lap and there's nobody like me to suddenly say no one goes to paris because they executed but it is one good piece of news to make which is you know there is hope for ginger people again look. under let's go to a much more boring story. he was involved this channel was involved parent leave because we got the exclusive on it and. did so again screwball was retired but still was in the spy game is that why it was poison new york times. not new york observer what do you make of this highly likely kremlin hit about its own doubts of the truth when most cack handed kremlin hate since a lot of the kremlin hate what amazes me about all our own cause a lot of it being said is everybody thinks he's a really dangerous and scary man look if. being off was
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a sports that he be the best it let me get your average forty year old schoolyard bully would pretty good look he attempts to poison somebody insults break and accidentally kills a trump how do you know like ten assume he attempts to take over. take over ukraine and that only has the ball naval base which frankly was part of that was a hostile bid how do you not lead you to russia well did you sing or should you say those ten russian agents almighty paid people who wrote or were mocking them for being also ridiculous well i've been told is that the kremlin was so embarrassed about how terrible these two agents were but they forced him to go and see him and someone overseas doesn't like a spy or insoles brit just one quick question how do you know all this if you're so sure why has there been no trial why that has as there been no inquiry i think this is why would i just said is an arch enemy of goodness be so rubbish at choosing his to be a body that they screwed up this piece look because it makes a puppet on the issue of law to my pension when it comes to anything other than stealing russian state resources the months the early incompetence but you know he
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spent the second second term of president only doing all the reform. he used to think this country used to rule ukraine now they've got this a possible they're at war with georgia i'm gone with georgia if the man these fellows are living with on which you don't get that useless almost second on both those who can come get what he wants how come we've got donald trump as president in america because he's going to be with me i think i'll tell you what i'm going to go to steve i mean a distraction or and i should just say that in the integrity initiative papers which we will be going into the second half of this show. apparently introduce to the security services here is named in it but what do you think generally about the story but i think it's evident out of storage i personally don't think it was necessary to russian state involvement or no concerns i was on the russians because they have a dense is not conclusive yet but i mean this is the story behind these two russian gentlemen morehouse and swiss cheese and that's apparently they arrived in. in the
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cells where it's eleven fifty nine am i right in that time respond yes two hours after. this cripple actually left their home for the doubt as to how they managed to get this over choke on a door handle and so when you discover what you've been up the premise that we haven't found them i have to say we've been drawing journalists presumably all of the country anyway them bit let's go to well it was to give up marine you're right now but britain did try to destroy a lot of the football career yes i'm not sure if the little girl you're aware of this but we had a world cup this year and twenty eight well cup twenty eighteen england fans warned of possible anti british sentiment in russia this is all part of the same tsunami of darkness which was partly spreading towards us from russia we were told that there would be the terrible look of terrible danger terrible well company told it be disorganized and that be violence in the streets surprise surprise the fans who did not have the political bias and came back saying we really love the russians an
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overly well organised old mysterious of suspiciously well organized so now let's criticize russia for doing too well they said it's better than. anything and i thought i like the papers warning lish friends not to go well well i think i think you could be fair about they still has been a lot of trouble with crowd violence across europe so i mean there was problems when british to went to ukraine as well and not not part of russia or at least it's not the moment so look i think i think that we were we were right to be concerned about crowd violence i don't think for me i don't think there was ever a sensible suggestion the british people would be attacked or some sort of spoiled is what they at this moment there that i go home to read to have already already got a foreign office has issued. on i'm not the foreign office all i do all i'm like for an office my own personal opinion i think there was no there was never any concern about the russian state itself i don't think there was any reason to be can said russia i would be concerned about the. one of us is
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a terrorist attack so from the foreign office and. i thought that he jumped ship frankenstein that's what i see here quite often limited but still jaywalk after the break as we look ahead to twenty five. you mentioned being six thirty five and you have a career and a career involves using your i phone in your computer and things like that being in an office. perhaps you sort of getting to nix a circular t.v. you could have to stop doing all this in this kind of you lose the minutes must be frankly my world became smaller and smaller and smaller until i ended up running it
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and the box. very strong magnetic field held in my head. think of it like a real heart my skin and that wireless access point and it's just continuous on saying with our students in the schools. we are just continually bathing our citizens in this microwave radiation it is certainly electro small and it's getting worse. welcome back i'm still here with steve coppell and andre walk let's go steve with you there's amazing a reform of all terrible welfare states by the drama governs your article yes so the idea that we pay has been forced to admit people are dying of universal cry that's a story that's even though universal quite that has not been. fully rolled out jet
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across the country the d.w.p. is already having to investigate its involvement in four people's deaths on the benefit both coasts there's been dogged by control to say from the damning national audit office reports to former work and pensions secretary estimates i had to admit that several million families would be up to two hundred pounds a month worse off under universal credit so they go to the actually lost and those found that the benefit does discriminate against severely disabled people so it's been in cairo since it was implemented but be honest when something is so broken in the first place it's going to be impossible to fix it under a good wage or deter people from taking wilfer in the first place by killing them well one would hope so but on a serious note on the series of visits there are a couple of issues here first of all the part of what complexions like most government departments is also the dysfunctional so i think reform of that is important however the idea that first of all you should be paid more to have a job than be on the dole i think is a good principle that there should be a maximum to which you can claim i think is a good principle i think also the principle which not necessarily relates it's nice
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but but what you cannot get a more lovely property on the taxpayer than you would have got if you work for yourself you think it was a good principle then well you know i'm sorry i don't know how you should generally do it if you haven't already i'm sure not only for having a job which was the position in the past i would have is that thing about having more money getting a job than being on benefits going on second if i believe in looking people so much so that someone sees them what is the maximum that you can claim on the code system what is it thirty three thousand that means you have to worry forty five thousand dollars to you under these all of the subsidized by a well we do we need we need guidelines well the government's i do not as well the idea that you can play slavery wage is a place like starbucks and then the government bails you out with that we think i'm support you know it's also known as i was going out there it's not working out of that because if you look at cocos month ago for universal credit for single mothers had the government to call it because it ended up that even though they worked under universal credit they were well itself still pending and that is universe so so so. hi on the second how many people we've got on the social in this country and
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your father for examples of people who are probably the only look out of the idea that might be alike but the idea that you don't live on limited amounts of money to people of the fact we punish people or you have a job your publisher that these are for because you are and i think you're going to have to go to trial you transit out of the thing you were going to go it's all about ignoring a basic point made by all three of us to you which is many of the people who are getting this benefit are already working they can't get more now i'm guessing that i can sosa's like you would agree with a massive increase in the minimum wage that's make it fifteen pounds an hour is that your old i'm not only not going to take several but again seven is i one of the things that annoys you forget what i said hike i did a hike in the minimum wage i have no problem whatsoever i'll tell you why the problem that we're going to miss the drays again we have we have dieted out in this country of mass immigration and low wages and it will still work the fact of the matter is if you live in london or the southeast of england the reason why you can
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go to a coffee shop i think i get paid minimum wage is because you're subsidizing through housing but i think i'm support so i think these coffeeshop competition pay the commensurate amount ok and i'm not i'm not a guy so that could open a way that other we've already seen just want to tax these great multinationals out of business i'm not a very very socialist. is there's a limit to good what is quite right it's good to our necks in this ridiculous record i'm too andrea made me think which may presage or leaving the united nations who knows what absolutely express reported box around again yes britain totally inappropriate u.n. report on poverty in the u.k. short version here is that the u.n. said there were millions in poverty in this country and she said and i quote that sort of language is totally inappropriate and actually discredited a lot of what he was saying that's what she said well it's great to see her back having done her brief time maybe on universal credit windows and she's basically saying it's not as bad as it looks. maybe we've never had it so good not many
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people agree with that if you're at the bottom of the pile on a little bit less than seasoning where does this go well the u.n. is a bit more political than people make out but at the same time you don't think poverty is built well we know it is political and we know that food banks are a record high the dependence on them has never been higher in this country so what she's saying what the un say i'm voting for the un on this one what do you think the un could have gone further perhaps doing it always go for the remainder of the camp where the thing is and effectively toothless organization of fortune and that's i was american but look the very concept of the story is that this is now the fifth un report since june twenty sixth a new government they've been to from the un committee on the rights of persons with disabilities one which says the government adds created a human catastrophe for the people in this country by doing great and systematic violations of their human rights but the problem is we keep having these u.n. reports as i say it's a fifth one and nothing happens because legally the government does not have to do anything they can ignore what the u.n.
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says and i'm sure they have nothing to say here we don't recognize that as she said she called this language extraordinary political and just dismiss report out of hand and there's literally nothing that can be done i think we need to recognize the difference between what the u.n. is saying way and you cannot deny this report on the four ones that go before us whether the u.n. is actually fit for purpose now i don't agree with you to an extent that is going to do this which arguably is certainly for us in this program going to go it was a it was quite a shocking story to end the year with fake news or otherwise daily record reported secret scottish based office that info was attack on labor and jeremy call but this is all about is a rather cryptically named group called the institute for statecraft which apparently got money from the foreign and commonwealth office the f.c.s. of state money tax and minister defense british army major lithuanian in moody us state department in order to try to counter the russian propaganda and anybody who seems to be. russia. jeremy cole been potentially huge attack english all the time
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you know not according to this well actually this think tank is quote supposed to counter russian online propaganda by forming clusters of friendly journalists and then making the point so save your own firing line here is how much money if you go from the institute for state where the foreign office and the taxpayer. money comes from putin i thought you knew that it goes wrong the red phone in my in my office visit but the real thrust of the story is the attack the canary but this thing we do not know that this is for me the underlying actual story here is not that this is happening because of. skiving on the main the u.k. turning against friendly countries like spying for example trying to disrupt in that country all across europe again bernie sanders is involved a exactly that's not really going to pay the real story this is of course what i'm doing that i haven't told us because i do not believe this extensive it's the day we're trying to subvert twitter against jeremy colvin and that's as far as it goes
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i don't think that's a real story and if you look at him back in his conduct in parliament where he was constantly deflecting away from the issue in even the canary was named. the what's called been here because one of the things he discovered an article saying that unlike galloway former m.p. george galloway corbin does not scream can spare is he implies it knocks dangerous people out you need to watch out for that your friend. dave let's go to the next story some sort of earthquake. destroys this i don't even know why we're going to go watch to get i know i've been ignoring this is a fourteen year old. boy on the surveys the tracking polls the guy off the largest quite a get this is the news that that's holier than thou frank and company up in preston new roads where there are commonly driving for shall pass i've had more than fifty trams now the large of those was magnitude one point five just last week as well as we are recording arm. and every time there's an earthquake over eight point five
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magnitude they have stopped turning frightening as as the government's regime on that as a traffic light system but it poses was a question is about why the questions about the safety of fracking industry. its campaign is saying corrects the this is this fracking and it's produced is getting worse because i do since because it was but also the day it is exposed as a colony of corporatists corruption if you die between the governments and the fracking industries you have clear perry the energy minister having secret meetings with fracking companies sanitation i know the limits for it but i wonder just what the same with all of you we still feel it is a little filled climate changes us to good and blackpool illuminations one fair vendor for the other thing that i feel very very strongly about our somebody comes from the likes of coal field you know one point five seismic events on the richter scale each not an earthquake right you could probably sits on top of it or not notice that these in the area the ice probe to earth tremors and alterations in the
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substructure to suggest anything more than what happened bullfrog east not clear then but you do that six hundred million people are idiots yes i do actually i actually think that the issue here is the eco lobby is talking about numbers of people don't understand we're making more of an earthquake by shouting at each other and then knowing five. or so i thought about that i know it's a low gridley scale that. some impressed have thought if you actually read anything on this because you obviously haven't done stand the point is not the fact there has been a one point five magnitude earthquake there's not an earthquake. the fact is that the very social and firstly stanford university in first of all know this gentleman paid styles former advisers the u.k. government they both sides of the magnitude happening that is the constant fact that the earthquakes therefore undermine the structures that are already there india plus the lancashire fracking sites are soft on the sites of previous coal mining activities anyway it's in question to increase earthquakes as they are will then go on to lead to lower taxes or they just can't i did when i was going to
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clear the second but i don't think about it i merely shallowly the fact that rudd really isn't to stop drilling means that earthquakes are actually good for helping the environment because they're stopping with wells up to the level you get your job around in any way ok let's go to the story obviously britain is really in the obsessed with the meds and struck by a wing at dover and food shortages. whether you take us through this ok you u.k. government has to spend two billion on bragg's it prep no deal looms look i think it's fair to say and i think everybody in the studio is going to agree that we defied the incompetence by the negotiation over leaving the european union and the big problem is of course i have perfect the strong and stable and having a very high fives and i look deal of respect for people who believe in leave i have a great deal of respect for people who believe in remain but i think the big problem is with the reason she's not negotiating how little of the european union we can leave and still still call it drags it and i think that is fundamentally the problem and i can only quote from the great train wetherspoon's who said you know
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what i always feel better when i wake up in the morning thirty nine billion pounds better off i think that is important so you know other pub chains are venerable lembit what's wrong with an eternal backstop when we're subject to european law where we had strong and stable and not last election not smooth nor the divorce i don't know any divorce it's a smooth and orderly i think she's been optimistic but i have to say the sneaking respect for the reason may because she's still there she's had ones. means it was the evil respect for the person that he had because she still that who would have thought that she had to survive this fall because in the very anything it's almost like said you fail to eradicate cancer of god go i go i've got respect for cancer can still fail to eradicate breck's in her case even let us have an ordinance a. sacred happy they do you pete is basically in the running in you and he is not ready to resume absolute brilliant one here they got
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a billion pounds from her then they said but we're not going to back you anyway wonderful work there but this makes it even more impressive to resume a still in post running what amongst a minority government delivering five hundred eighty five pages of nothing essentially remain i agree with you on that and she was still in post at least for me recording this program in the next ten minutes it will have no say in thing that makes me laugh is the idea that you could be so bad as a conservative and you notice that the do you suppose could citric supporting. out the fundamental bases on the left and on the right because it breaks it was democracy and is over would be lost in all of this but i've had the first post as always going to the referendum but essentially being put in a position where was that during the rock and hard place you have the corporate is a you which is governed by laws of goldman sachs and we have no standards democracy which i'm arguing for or you're stuck with the conservative party running the shambolic breaks it's on the on the elected house of lords having on the final say is over which is what we're saying now the problem has never been with breaks it
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for me because i'm with you or your camp with this we should leave european union far better off then i think in twenty years top will be glad we did but it's been the managing of it by the conservative party which the knee issue that's caused this coyotes i have no issue with you have an issue with the shambles that's the reason i lied although you know that i mean twenty nine jeanne looking forward to joining nineteen obviously project fear liberal democrats your leader vince cable no i remember then you will. rationing in all the rest of this defend the idea that what do you think is going to be. stories of twenty one i think the big story will be if anyone can ever prove anything about ten souls free in the trump election but my prediction is that in december twenty nine tain will be very close to a vote on it. i believe that what we are looking at this you have twenty nineteen is the great betrayal what change what we will even be forced to continually vote until we reach a stage in the or people do you think the british and other kind of no i think you
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believe my state but what i'm hoping for is this in the referendum where it's. thoughts we all don't vote and there's a forty percent turnout ninety percent in favor of a bad idea affectively no confidence ace the british state which i think would make it a much more interesting proposition save protectionists i think we would say the biggest . increase protests and demonstrations not is about climate change i think the yellowjackets movement in france and the extinction rebellion is just the beginning the government is going to be facing protests it hasn't seen in many many years steve happy and yeah merry christmas all that stuff and that's it for the show on saturday with legendary journalist and filmmaker john pilger until then keep in touch by social media go back inside the twenty nine years to the day of the reopening of the brandenburg gate on the edge of the linden just next to the u.s. embassy officially ending the division between east and west but.
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my son doing drugs my nephew was still in drugs my sister just with doing drugs it was like an epidemic of drug abuse america's public enemy number one in the united states is drug abuse. users in the prison population who are we started treating sick people people who are addicted to these drugs like criminals while i was on the hill. the war on drugs was a mistake there are countless numbers of people who are in prison for. sins for. minor offenders in the drug trade it's a lot watching your children grow up and miss you in waves and say by day as you're walking out of a business it's just it doesn't get easier. the u.s.
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