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the top not so happy story now so this is from the telegraph that are near and i. love the murder rates higher than new york as police investigate thirty first stabbing and capital this year this was a four out of the south of the knife crime and murder epidemic of florida which really hasn't actually come true if you look at the figures now when i was there you know it is terrible and the murder rate is higher than it has been in previous years regarding me as a recording this as hundred thirty one modes in the capital now new york is south of two hundred seventy three so while there has been a increase in violent crime which has been on the up since about twenty ten it's now hasn't panned out in the why that the press were predicting it was going to go server i'm just thinking this was to be the constant close the public i will tell you something in new york people are jumping for joy obviously new york's a very different place to look but what we all of course absolutely the idea that new york was safer than that but look at you know i think it's been embarrassing hasn't it the way the city columns bleated all about this and clearly absolutely
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incapable of dealing with any problems of the police and he's just somebody who is only capable of complaining about not having anybody he doesn't seem to do the thing else and the other thing that annoys me about this story is policing itself we spend our lives listening to the police going well we are now more diverse so we've ever been before we're all gauging with communities how about you stop people knifing each other the reading gave a little bit as lots of context in this big zero you do the economy with that about a great many as of the other this isn't my fault action will arguably is not essentially cons fault either the man but he did say something quite interesting he wants a road deaths in the city but he wants to bring knife crime down to acceptable levels not that doesn't sound of voices yet there or you know if it. was acceptable he didn't define it but that's it's always it was still it always struck me with modern police say that if i went out in south lawn tonight and stopped somebody meant drove home with defective brake lights i would definitely be. arrested but it
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wouldn't be for the stopping that is a sad state of affairs where and also the close element of all these stories no one's actually saying you know all in mayfair this seems to be very little cool can do something about this is a school called oasis which is right in the middle of one of the highest crime rate areas high stopping years they've actually reduced to zero amongst the children you can do something about it so you saw stabbings to zero school guess yet but a lot of those children would otherwise be involved in the right there you say you can do something about it but if you look at the figures historically they go through peaks and troughs i mean it's highest as i've said before on the show was done to tony blair in two thousand and three two hundred countries goes to war let's go to the next story andre take us through this terrible bullet actually which that they are personally that is a lot of well i've tried and i have to say so i'll read it to you on the far home secretary on the road presides over when first god he's going to syria is a red dreadful old leftist you know up so you can't stop this and that's all i'm going to grow so it's great that she's it's great that she's you know just a bomb syria the bedroom tax disability testing and raising look look even raising
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welfare i will try to look a lot everything's relative right everything's relative so so i referred to was a dreadful old life this left but said well look here's the interesting thing about this when for scandal the most important thing over them all is that for years and years and years we've taken no action whatsoever over illegal immigration it's been perfectly possible to go to the enablers windrush able to do without legal is really i know at the high what about it i don't i can say back inside knowledge of how insofar as a train of thought was paid not been a slight problem with one or two people didn't have documentation when they initially came into the code phrase paying knows all this nobody has been deported over the scandal it's been discovered it's basically goldman it's a cop one said we should just completely ignore you saying this in the event i think didn't try some people they didn't try to deport some people look i've had people on my show that said that they did tend not to their mind that as you well know there are tens of thousands of illegal migrants in the u.k. in this country i did nobody has taken any action so. we have these. stories about
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but also about making it difficult for a legal limits them as you say you admit that he's got one on one shop he actually lived here longer than me because he came here when he was four and he's now about sixty and he was told he has to go but he's not a rhodes fault that he didn't give him the paperwork when he arrived in the hole i see behind that ok that doesn't because there is a maze well there's a boy and i'll tell you the hostile about it with me but i just go to the wholesalers i desire you covered about and it's a good idea would have you would have thought it was you know my side it's the supposed door is no it's most probably for the people who live in the community you know people who've been deported over i have read and say have very large relationship who was subject to something like this so i know all about and i live in a community which is very mixed ethnically and that are people who have been subject to the you know somebody who's been deported over this godless about deporting people who are you know this is not just about this story though it's really on the right is now back in the well so maybe this is the bigger story that this. woman
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has been brought back as secretary of state of the twelve work and pensions so it seems human sat watching them walk into a job can both agree that she should be back in government well i guess i would say the number of resignations they've had everyone gets to be a minute but they're running out of lebanon so the cyclist giving up far more important story than work and pensions disability rights and the mass deportation of people of color this is someone of color here this is actually what we that out here right royal happy times here actually. reported royal wedding guest told to bring their own picnics to meghan markle and prince harry's celebration i know you are jumping for joy when this wonderful happy royal occasion. in the able although when we watch this and i'm sure you could share that with us as well look at the joy in your face as he read all about going to last them down there so we got to terri and they said bring a picnic ok maybe some rough sleepers ross to move on at the time it would have maybe brought down the occasion a little bit but this is. quality of all right there when the children move on they
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were sort of imprisoned or detained or all deported so it was a gentle reminder not to muddy the pavements at the time it was a happy day it brought the country together save millions worth of taxpayer money worth of of interest in the story i'm sorry yes of course yes wonderful occasion and it's in capture it's the classism winds i'm not originally from windsor bridging from manchester he told to move all. the tower when i think put on a great day but i think we were fully embarrassed by the cross and insensitive comments of the lead to the council outside dudley who has in the past been a friend of mine but it has to be said the way that he said that they should do basically what he sacks they shouldn't be selling like that and said that no he said the homeless people should be cleared off the streets because i would like to look at them who of course is hugely embarrassing and how do you make and have said no such thing and i think he really ought to have hold the only chad in shame as a result of this is strictly such commercial people are great ambassadors for this
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country and i would point out to you both of them only used to be grounds for treason x. of august recess lap and there's nobody like me to suddenly say no one goes to paris because they executed but it is one good piece of news to make which is you know there is hope for ginger people again look under let's go to a much more important story. he was involved this channel was involved parent lee because we got the exclusive on it and. it is so gay screwball was still was in the spy guy is that why was poison new york times. not new york observer or what do you make of this highly likely kremlin hit about its own doubts of the truth when most cack handed kremlin hit since a lot of the credit what amazes me about all our own co flood of approved said is everybody thinks he's a really dangerous and scary man look if gulping off was a sports that he'd be the best to let you get your average forty year old school yard. we're pretty good look he attempts to poison somebody insults break and
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accidentally kills a trump how do you know like ted assume he attempts to take over. events take over ukraine and that only has the sebastopol naval base which frankly was public it was a hostile bid how do you not lead you to russia well did you sing or should you say them stupid russian agents on the t.v. people who wrote or were mocking them for being a ridiculous well i've been told is that the kremlin was so embarrassed about how terrible these two agents were but they forced him to go and see him and someone overseas doesn't like aspire insoles brit just one quick question how do you know all this if you're so sure why has there been no trial why that has as there been no inquiry i think this is why would i just said is an arch enemy of goodness be so rubbish at choosing his tea party that they screwed up this piece not because that makes up but on the issue of blood to my pension when it comes to anything old than stealing russian state resources the months the early incompetence but you know he spent the second second term of president only doing all the reform. he needs to
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think this country used to rule ukraine now they've got the they're at war with georgia i'm gone with georgia if the man who still knows a little bit with all that you don't get that useless almost second on both those who can come get what he wants how come we've got donald trump as president of america because he's going to be right there with me i mean i'll tell you what i'm going to go to steve i mean a distraction or and i should just say that in the integrity initiative papers which we will be going into the second half of this show. apparently introduce to the security services here is named in it but what do you think generally about the story but i think evident out of storage i personally don't think it was necessary to russian state involvement or no concerns i was on the russians because they evidence is not conclusive yet but i mean this is the story behind these two russian gentlemen morehouse and swiss cheese and that's apparently they arrived in in cells where it's eleven fifty nine and the around that time it was response. yes
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two hours after. this cripple actually left their home for the diaries how they managed to get this over choke on a door handle and so when you discover what even at the premises we haven't found them i have to say we've been drawing journalists presumably all of the country anyway them bit let's go to well it was to give up marine you're right now but britain did try to destroy a another football career yes i'm not sure if the little girls are aware of this but we had a world cup this year and twenty eight well cup twenty eighteen england fans warned of possible anti british sentiment in russia this is all part of the same tsunami of darkness which was partly spreading towards us from russia we were told that there would be the terrible look of terrible danger terrible well company told it be disorganized and that be violence in the streets surprise surprise the fans who did not have the political bias and came back saying we really love the russians an overly well organised old mysterious of suspiciously well organized so now let's criticize russia for doing well they said let's get back to them so if anything and
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. i thought i would the papers warning list friends about to go well well i think i think you could be fair about they still has been a lot of trouble with crowd violence across europe so i mean there was problems when british to went to ukraine as well i'm not so not possible or at least it's not the moment so look i think i think that we were we were right to be concerned about crowd violence i don't think for me i don't think there was ever a sensible suggestion that british people would be attacked or some sort of spoiled is what they would like there that i got home to read to have a hard look at it that was the foreign office has issued. on i'm not the foreign office all i decided all i'd like for an office my own personal opinion i think there was no there was never any concern about the russian state itself i don't think there was any reason to be can said up into russia i would be concerned by the four of us as a terrorist attack. on the foreign office and asked that comment. i don't know
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maybe jump ship i think. that's what i see here from the limited. after the break as we look ahead to twenty nine. one is the. that's kind of. the global back in two thousand and eight there was a two thousand and eight subprime crisis. today i think we can safely say that the bubble popped but the collapse. was the principal emotions having put it to sions business a. medical doctor i want him to do his will i don't need to like you so i try not to attach any party can the personal feelings maybe something had tickled
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objections i would have but in politics history is a judge and history will judge who's presidency was in the future when they were delivered to relate to the nation and to the blow which was not. welcome back i'm still here with steve coppell and andre walker let's go steve with you to this amazing reform of a terrible welfare state by the government your article yes so the d.w.p. has been forced to admit people are dying on the universal card that's the story that's even though universal quite that has not been fully rolled out just across the country the data to pay is already having to investigate its involvement in for people's benefit they don't bark and try to say from the national audit office reports to form a welcome pension. secretary estimates i had to admit that several million families
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would be up to two hundred pounds a month worse off under universal credit so they go to the actually lost and those found that the benefit does discriminate against severely disabled people so it's been in cairo since is implemented but be honest when something is so broken in the first place it's going to be impossible to fix it under a good wage or deter people from taking wilfer in the first place by killing them well one would hope so but on the serious notes of the series of visits there are a couple of issues here first of all that part of what complexions like most government departments is also the dysfunctional so i think reform of that is important however the idea that first of all you should be paid more to have a job than be on the dole i think it's a good principle that there should be a maximum to which you can claim i think is a good principle i think also the principle which not necessarily relates it's nice but but what you cannot get a more lovely property on the taxpayer than you would have got if you work for yourself you think it was a good principle then well you know i'm sorry i don't know how you should check on
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it if you haven't already i'm sure not only for having a job which was the position in the past how would i how does that think about having more money getting a job than being on benefits going on second if i only in comparison to what it's all that so what is the what is the maximum that you can claim on the court system what is it thirty three thousand that means you have to worry forty five thousand as mean as they actually are these are the subsidized by a well we do we need to we need to have a lot as well as the government so i do not as well the idea that you can play slavery wages a place like starbucks and then the government bails you out with that we think i'm support you know it's also known as i was going out there it's not working out of that because if you look at coke i was a month ago for universal credits for single mothers had the government to coach because it ended up that even though they worked under universal credit they were well itself still happening and that is you know as so so so high on the second how many people we've got on the social in this country and your father for examples of people who are probably the only look up with the idea it might be like but the idea that you don't live on limited amounts of money to people and the fact leap.
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all these people you have a job your publisher that these are for because you are and i think you're going to have to go to trial you transit how the thing you were going to go it's all about ignoring a basic point made by all three of us to you which is many of the people who are getting this benefit are already working they can't get more now i'm guessing that i can sources like you would agree with a massive increase in the minimum wage that's make it fifteen pounds an hour is that your old i'm not only not going to take several but again seven is i one of the things that annoys you forget what i said the hike i did a hike in the minimum wage i have no problem whatsoever i'll tell you why the problem when i diverge from tracing we have we have dieted out in this country of mass immigration and low wages and it will still work the fact of the matter is if you live in london or the southeast of england the reason why you can go to a coffee shop i think i get paid minimum wage is because you're subsidizing it through housing but i think i'm support so i think these coffeeshop competition pay the commensurate amount ok and i'm not i'm not a gates so that cannot be quite other you always you just want to tax these great
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multinationals out of business i'm not a very very socialist. it is a little bit good was quite right let us go to our next in this ridiculous report on to andrea thing which made press if you're leaving the united nations who knows what absolutely express reported box around again yes britain totally inappropriate u.n. report on poverty in the u.k. short version here is that the u.n. said there were millions in poverty in this country and she said and i quote that sort of language is totally inappropriate and actually discredited a lot of what he was saying that's what she said well it's great to see her back having done her brief time maybe on universal credit. and she's basically saying it's not as bad as it looks maybe we've never had it so good not many people agree with that if you're at the bottom of the pile on a little bit less than seasoning where does this go well the u.n. is a bit more political than people make out but at the same time. i'm you don't think
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poverty is built well we know it is political and we know that food banks are a record high the dependence on them has never been higher in this country so what she's saying what the u.n. say i'm voting for the u.n. on this one what do you think the u.n. could have gone further perhaps doing it always go for the remainder of the camp where i think is an effective return to this organization of fortune and that's i was making but look the real context of the story is that this is now the fifth u.n. report since june twenty sixth a new government they've been to from the u.n. committee on the rights of persons with disabilities one which says the government heads created a human catastrophe for the people in this country by doing great and systematic violations of their human rights but the problem is we keep having these u.n. reports as i say it's a fifth one and nothing happens because legally the government does not have to do anything they can ignore what the u.n. says so they have nothing to say here we don't recognize that as she said she called this language extraordinary political and just dismiss report out of hand and there's literally nothing that can be done i think we need to recognize the difference between what the u.n.
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is saying way and you cannot deny this report on the four ones that go before us whether the human is actually fit for purpose now i'd agree with you to an extent that's going to do this which arguably certainly for us on this program going to go was a was quite a shocking story to end the year with fake news or otherwise daily record reported secret scottish based office that info was attack on labor and jeremy call but this is all about is a rather cryptically named group called the institute for statecraft which apparently got money from the foreign and commonwealth office the f.c.s. of state money types and minister of defense british army major lithuanian a moody us state department in order to try to counter the russian propaganda and anybody who seems to be supporting russia. jeremy corbin but attention they would attack english rule of law not according to this law actually this think tank is quote supposed to counter russian online propaganda. by forming clusters offending
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journalists and then making the point so save your own firing line here is how much money if you go from the institute for state where the foreign office and the taxpayer. money comes from putin i thought you knew that it goes wrong the red phone in my in my office for the night but the real thrust of the story is the attack the canary but this thing we do not know that this is for me the underlying actual story here is not that this is happening because of. skiving on the main the u.k. turning against friendly countries like spying for example trying to do so in that country all across europe again bernie sanders is involved a exactly that's a very straight with the real campaign real story this is of course what i'm doing that i haven't told us because i do not believe this extensive it's the diatribe this of the twits are against jeremy colvin that's as far as it goes i don't think that's a real story and if you look at in duncan his conduct in parliament where he was constantly deflecting away from the issue in even the canary was named. the what's
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called in him because one of the things he discovered in law school say that unlike galloway foreman p. george galloway corbin does not scream can spare is he implies it not dangerous people like you need to watch out for that your friend. dave let's go to the next story some sort of earthquake. story is this i don't even know why we're going to watch to get out and been ignoring this it is moving here obviously it is all of them the surveys the u.k. fracking polls the guy off the largest quite gets this is the news that that's holier than thou frank and company up in preston new roads where they are commonly driving for shall gas they've had more than fifty trams now their knowledge of those was magnitude one point five just last week as well as we are recording every time there's an earthquake over eight point five magnitude they have stopped ringing frighting as it's the government's regime and that's it's a tropical system but it poses was a question is about why the questions about the sad state of fracking industry.
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what's campaign saying carex the this is this fracking and it's for juice is getting worse because i do seem to be getting worse but also the data is expose the calling of corporatists corruption if you die between the governments and the fracking industries you have claire perry the energy minister having secret meetings with fracking companies sat in attention i know the limits for it but i wonder just what the same with your view be. impossible filled climate changes us to good and blackpool illuminations one fair benefit the other thing that i feel very very strongly about are somebody who comes from the likes of coal fields you know i would point five seismic events on the richter scale east north an earthquake right you could probably sits on top of it and not notice that he's in the area of the ice probe to earth tremors and alterations in the substructure to suggest anything more than what happened bullfrog he's not clear then but you've got six hundred million people are idiots yes i do actually i actually think that the issue here is the eco lobby is talking about numbers of people don't understand
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we're making more of an earthquake by shouting at each other then the one knowing five or so i thought about it i know it's a low gridley scale that. some impressed have thought if you actually read anything on this because you obviously haven't read understand the point is not the fact there has been a one point five magnitude earthquake there's not an earthquake. the fact is that the very social and firstly stanford university in first of all know this gentleman paid styles form advise the government they both sides of the magnitude is happening that is the constant factor is the earthquake therefore undermined the structures that are already there and plastic. fracking sites are sat on the sites of previous coal mining activities anyway it's in question that increase earthquakes as they are will then go on to lead to lower taxes or they just can't i do it when it was clear the think about that i was thinking about your eyes or shallowly the fact that roger listen to stop drilling means that earthquakes are actually good for helping the environment because they're stopping with wells up to a level and you get your job around it anyway ok let's go to the story obviously
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britain is really in the obsessed with the meds and struck by allowing dover in the food shortages. to get through this ok u.k. government proposed to spend two billion on bragg's it prep no deal looms look i think it's fair to say and i think everybody in the studio is going to agree but we defied the incompetence by the go show you showed over leaving the european union and the big problem is of course i have perfect the strong and stable and having a very you know i think it's great and i look deal of respect for people who believe in leave i have a great deal of respect for people who believe in remain but i think the big problem is with the reason she's not negotiating how little of the european union we can leave and still still call it drags it and i think that is fundamentally the problem and i can only quote from the great train by the spirits who said you know what i always feel better when i wake up in the morning thirty nine billion pounds better off i think that is important so you know other pub chains are venerable
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lembit what's wrong with an eternal backstop when we're subject to european law where we had strong and stable and not last election smooth or the divorce i don't know any divorce it's a smooth and orderly i think she's been optimistic but i have to say the sneaking respect for the reason may because she's still there she's had ones. that means it was the evil respect for the person that he had because she still that who would have thought that she had to survive this fall because in the very anything it's almost like said you fail to eradicate cancer of god i've got i've got respect for cancer can still fail to eradicate breck's in her case even let us have an ordinance a. happy they do you pete is basically in the running in you that he is not ready to resume absolute brilliant one here they've got a billion pounds from there then they said but you're not going to back you anyway wonderful work there but this makes it even more impressive to resume a still in post running what amongst a minority government delivering five hundred eighty five pages of nothing essentially remain i agree with you on that and she was still in post at least for
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me recording this program is a danger the next i'm going out saying well i've noticed that makes me laugh is the idea that you could be so bad as a conservative and you notice that the do you suppose could citric supporting. the fundamental bases on the left and on the right because of breaks it was democracy in the overdue would be lost in all of this but i've had the first post as always going to the referendum essentially being put in a position where was that during the rock and hard place you have the corporate year which is governed by lots of goldman sachs and we have no standards democracy which i'm arguing for or you're stuck with the conservative party running the shambolic breaks it's on the on the elected house of lords having on the final say is over which is what we're saying now the problem is it's never been with breaks it for me because i'm with you or your camp with this we should leave the european union far better off out of it i think in twenty years top will be glad we did but it's been the managing of it by the conservative hard to explain the issues it's
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them that's cause it's chaos i have no issue with believe me you have an issue with the shambles that's the reason i lied although you know that i mean twenty nine jeanne looking forward to joining nineteen obviously project fear of the liberal democrats your leader vince cable who i remember then you will. rationing in all the rest of this defendant would you what do you think is going to be. stories of twenty nine i think the big story will be if anyone can ever prove anything about ten souls free in the trump election but my prediction is that in december twenty nine tain will be very close to a vote on it. i believe that what we are looking at this you have twenty nineteen is the great betrayal what change what we will even be forced to continually vote until we reach a stage in the or people you think the british and other kind of no i think you believe i think but what i'm hoping for is this in the referendum what you'll see. that's we all don't vote and there's a forty percent turnout ninety percent in favor of
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a bad idea affectively no confidence ace the british state which i think would make it a much more interesting proposition save protectionists i think we would say the biggest year so far for increased protests and demonstrations always about climate change i think the yellowjackets movement in france and the extinction rebellion movement over here is just the beginning the government is going to be facing protests it hasn't seen in many many years steve under happy and yeah merry christmas all that stuff and that's it for the show on saturday with legendary journalist and filmmaker john pilger until then keep in touch by social media go back and see how they twenty nine years to the day of the reopening of the brandenburg gate on the edge of the linden just next to the u.s. embassy official division between east and west but.
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the u.s. senate struggling rebuke saudi arabia with murder and calls for an end to the american involvement in the war on yemen is this the defining moment for this bilateral relationship will so-called values trump. hard political reality. one is the pin that's going to pop the global bubble back in two thousand and eight it was the two thousand and eight subprime crisis. today i think we can safely say that the bubble will be popped but the collapse of deutsche about. china a much bigger economic power lunch or wall inter. i think. you have to live with it. and there's lots of
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advantages that the europeans jethro but as well as america. takes a credit for defeating islamic state terrorists in syria and is now considering a total troop withdrawal. feisty exchange in the british parliament as theresa may faces hostility over her contingency plans for a no deal drugs it. not for sale but tackling violent yellow vests demonstrations french police launch their own a protest over working conditions and unpaid overtime. or to dot com has all of the latest stories at your fingertips for you the kaiser report now is up next on arch international but in the u.k. and ireland it is boom bust stay with us.
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