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i'm female but there will be people out there who choose not to watch their choice . russia's media regulator has launched an investigation into whether b.b.c. world news which broadcasts in russia and the b.b.c.'s websites are in compliance with the country's laws or culture of us following the story for us the b.b.c. has already commented on this new development saying that in russia as in any other country the company brings independent information to its audience following all rules and regulations by the local government now russia's media regulator launched this investigation into the b.b.c. world news just a day after the british media regular said that the news channel broke impartiality rules and the kremlin says that that was a measure taken and response. of course it's a retaliatory measure. there are plenty of questions for the b.b.c.
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join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to us of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. hello and welcome to crossfire all things considered i'm peter lavelle not long ago the political left are the guardians of free speech along with the big tech to the left today has gone from protecting speech to enforcing speech even to the point of penalizing you if you say the wrong thing in public you could lose your job and livelihood welcome to the era of simply shut up and not.
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cross talking in forced speech i'm joined by my guest emanuel galvin paris he is a french lawyer in new york we have lionel he is a legal analyst and a news decoder at lionel media dot com and in lake jackson we cross to dan you make adams he is the executive director of the ron paul institute for peace and prosperity all right let me go to danielle first hero we're pretty much the same age here i was i remember growing up and it was a time of being sensitive to people let's put it that way there are certain words in our vocabulary i'm sure we probably exist in french as well is that things you don't say and i think you know what i'm talking about and you know what i thought that was all right i think that's cool all right all right but in the last two days we had a virginia teacher fired for using the wrong or the. preferred not using the preferred pronoun of a student and then we had
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a texas elementary school teacher who refused to sign a pro israel oath is fired now this is in forcing speech it is not protecting speech how did we get here go ahead. said daniel well i think we got here partially with the idea that somehow the state could keep all of us safe and i hate to drive a thing back to foreign policy but i think a lot of it had to do with the concept of preemptive warfare the idea that through the application of force we could create a perfect society and i think that concept that ideas permeated our fortune our permeates the left to weaponize our own thoughts to weaponize our own thought processes if you control what someone must say then you control how they think you control their mind so i think it comes from the idea that the use of force is ok if it makes you say and of course ultimately as we know from foreign policy and from for speech it doesn't make you safe well emmanuelle i mean what is happening right
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now is not it's simply a rejection of the very foundation of western civilization now i know there's a lot of millennia old in all of hollywood and all of the universities hate the idea of western civilization but they have everything they have now because of western civilization a topic from another program but their want to deny freedom of speech and they are intentionally actively undermining freedom of speech emanuel in paris please. yes well actually if you think about it somehow this may be nothing new under the sun because if you think about the logos since the greek philosopher since i was still of socratic plato is this is the way it has always been said that he controls the logos we control the political life of the country right and we have seen the best that never in the one thousand nine hundred four georgia all well when they create the new speak so now we have this whole population in hollywood that you were
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referring to people that are in no way oftens of the late tyranny of the late that was u.s.s.r. so they thought well what what could we invest and they thought well we'll invest in a new type of world we will create our. you speak and we'll make this new war about one side as the planet and they'll decide is this gender war and trying to put against all the values that we have the notion of country the notion of family the even the word of nation and it has been done for centuries if you think about it and dictators in europe have been very good at creating new languages from hitler to the u.s.s.r. in the old days so controlling the logos in no way is something that into a new grammar they tell and philosopher used to say control the world of the education the words and one generation you will have the power in politics and this is what is happening which is why we need us us conservative to react and say no no
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no no we are know what you're doing guys we've seen it before yeah what was it what they'll try to do they'll get you fired ok or you have to go somewhere else lionel because the word smith on our panel here i mean daniel hit the nail on the head here this is a form of mind control and as i said in my introduction if you don't agree then you have to shut up and nod ok or they'll be penalties and they're serious ones go ahead lionel. while we have you know up in the world of nature normally things go extinct or become extinct here we have new species that pop up and these new species these new kinds are an amalgam of social justice warriors virtues signallers and others who get together and they create what i call not the thought police but the thought vigilantes and what they are is these are citizen mobs all
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clock rizzi is less. talk about these these this herd mentality like of of sparrows and starlings that they moved and today they're more allergies you have the more sensitivity. you show the more that you can show i'm upset by this word here my allergies i'm a giver met these people but they're not is this these these are people who show allergies to this word i have a new word my pronoun is that's the way you say it's a clicking sound and if you don't say that i will not only disagree with you i'll have you fired and removed from humanity now i move up the pecking order because i have another allergy another overreaction and i am more upset and angry over this and we turn this into a fad it's how many our g.'s you have we should have like. fruit salad like
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they have in the military to show how many words and how many things upset annoy you that's really how we are. it's the thought the land tease you know daniel it's it's you know not only the rejection of freedom of speech but actually the rule of law this is what i find terrifying look at look at what happened to her during the kavanagh hearings ok this was this herd and it was it was one of the most profound moments i think or an indication of how far it's gone an accusation is a conviction if you don't call me something that i want then you're transphobia a bigot or a racist i mean this is this amazing slippery slope and it has real consequences because then you do rule lose the rule of law and the right to self protection i mean i'm offended every time i turn on cable news ok but that's a that's ok to be offended when you're offended you learn ok that's how i know how
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to push back ok listening to all their jargon you know if you actually do not want you to think they want you to repeat go ahead daniel and i think the core of this is. really the the rise of the concept of collective rights versus rights and cherished in western civilization individual rights individual liberties and with that goes individual responsibilities which you alluded to of course at first words that you would not say because you're a polite person but the whole concept of collective rights is about the destruction of the individual it's about using force to force someone else and if if you are using that force if the individual no longer has any value as an individual then truth itself doesn't matter and i'm glad you brought up the kavanaugh hearings because even when false hoods were exposed. to this group rights mentalities it doesn't matter if they were lying the concept of what they were pushing was right
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and i think it's fortunate that we have a french guess here because i think a lot of this ideas goes back to the french revolution the whole concept of truth the whole concept of reality of existence was turned on its head and that's what we're seeing now with the rise of collective rights collective rights really is another word for authoritarianism and tyranny. in many ways how do you see that i mean we were basically three americans so we have a french person so maybe you could give us the angle there go ahead. you know i think it's very true to look at it i mean looking at it from my european pick specked i see that it's the first time in common all history that you have what we call in french. which means you are obligated to do something usually from freedom of speech and the case law that was developed from the supreme court was to say you can only there is nothing that we're friends you from your freedom of speech the
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only thing it shouldn't be a hate incentive but right now for example looking at the federal laws that have been passed in canada the idea is that if you do not use the pronoun it will be considered as a hate crime so you have a total inversion of the proof of this is. to must prove you know how of as a person if you're a teacher and you do not use the pronoun to use it to maybe prove in a court of law that your your reality what you see with your eyes but you're going to have to take a lawyer to plead that to say that you cannot say something that you don't see which actually seems like common sense it's very difficult to but that's what they want to do they want to enforce on someone something that seems unreal it's a little bit like in the time of galileo you know when he used to come to the catholic church and say a personal level it's but it's moves it's the same my dear he looks at the planet it said but no no look it is turning it's not the it's not the sun that is going
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around the earth it's the other way around it is moving but they said no this is not the reality because us catholic church we have the real logo and it's the same thing today those people those progresses they want to tell us that what we see as real is not really real how come. i don't see why they have the truth they don't want to stay in the empirical demonstration well i mean in also the refinish appearing with emmanuel i mean imperial reality is being denied the this is this is what's really quite terrifying i mean if you were vice tell you i'm a solid ball and i'm good i want you to call me a solid bow. then you would probably think i was out of my mind but if we were in canada well i suppose that's a gender category right now a solid ball it is just absolutely did to this massacre insulates see go ahead twenty seconds go ahead there was a case and done mark yes there was a question done mark just recently were a man wanted to change in the eighty's he considered it was not sixty three but
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felt it was because he felt he was forty three so he was actually going to change on the ready to go he was what i was looking for dates are what you see and our dates. are and i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after john briggs well. if you are discussion not in for speech stay with us. my son doing drugs my nephews was still in drugs my sister just with doing drugs it was like an epidemic of drug abuse america's public enemy number one in the united states is drug abuse started going after the users in the prison population sewer we started treating sick people people who are addicted to these drugs like
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criminals while i was on the hill. the war on drugs. with numbers. in prison for. sins for owner minor offenders in the drug trade it's a lot watching your children grow up and miss you in waves and say by day as you're walking out of this it's just it doesn't get easier. welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter you were discussing enforced speech.
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ok let's go back to lionel in new york this in forts in for speech concept what it does is it denies dissent and it actually denies real political debate because the terms and conditions of the debate are pre-determined so the outcome if you control the language you will get the outcome you want because you've already pre-determined the out come using assert very confined and controlled discourse go ahead lionel. one of the. the topic of hate crimes came up and hate speech came up and one of the problems that is always missed is that in our country we would take a law that is cognize of law let's say battery or arson or murder that is punishable and we will then take that as if you couple it with something that is constitutionally allowed permissible for example to hey peter i may hate you it's ok just don't hurt to touch you or call you salad bowl in a million way but but i can hate so if you take something that is that is already
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a law and you aggravate it basically you aggravate the sentence or the charge because i've dared to add to it a constitutionally permissible thought namely hate your penalising thought the thought police are very very alive you're very interesting also you take these poor prosecutors of which i was one and it's tough enough to prove the case but peter not only now must i prove that you intended to do something but i've got to prove to a jury why you did it and if you are very clever and you keep your mouth shut or you do not record the motivation behind your hate speech that i have to guess what i'm doing is i'm asking the jury to penalize you not just for what you did but for what you thought would be going on right now and the worst part is americans don't even see it ok well then. intentionality is almost impossible to prove but i guess now
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that's turning into a legal category all by itself as general flynn ok but i want to go back i want to go back to this really this attack on dissent it is outlawing dissent and put the political discourse is so confined right now that if you don't meet the terms and conditions of the debate that they want then you can't participate you're disqualified automatically go ahead ben. i think that's absolutely true and i think it you know it does go back to the idea of group rights and what happens with groups rights who gets group rights well the loudest people get group rights the loudest groups get group rights and how do they enforce those group rights which of course always come in the expense of the individual they enforce it through the state they use the state as their bludgeon so what does that do to us as individuals it makes us literally the property of the state we go back to a concept that was certainly wide throughout the soviet union and i remember still talked about in hungary when i lived there the concept of the wooden language we
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begin adopting a wooden language because we were afraid to speak in a clear way were afraid of who we might offend and so we actually end up destroying the language itself and i think that's absolutely where we're heading and the concept is group rights but people should realize that the totalitarians that are pushing this should realize once they establish the concept of group rights those groups can change and we know through history favor groups can become disfavor groups there's already a backlash in europe and in the united states thankfully it's not yet violent but if you look at the popularity of someone like jordan peterson for example you have the professor from canada his huge following of silent i would say silent majority who can sense there is something wrong and are afraid to speak out and so they follow someone like that so i think you're already seeing a backlash yes i go to a menu in paris jordan peterson is a perfect example is that you know what he says is really not quite extraordinary
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it's so common sense and it is so clear and it you intuitively understand it like yeah that's what i've been thinking all along ok emanuel the one of the things. i lived in communist poland. daniel said that he went to communist hungary you know and the language was would be he's absolutely right but the difference in the west is that it's all glitzy and glamorous ok and. it's virtue with so ok is it the big tent or censoring people throttling people disappearing people hollywood. pushes their nonsense agenda and amoral illogical there at the very center of this and governments work with them here i mean it's we're not we're actually have we have with the good thing is it may be a circular firing squad all we have to do is duck every once in a while my point is the a ray of forces against free speech our men's go ahead in paris. yes i think in
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a way if you think about it in the in the in the last thirty years changes from w. bush to i mean from clinton to devalue bush from w. bush to obama it was the same logos they were all the using the wooden tong as you were referred but i have great hope in the sense that i'm i know be a trump lover on everything but mr trump president trump when he came to power came to power on the back on of a very different a new logo he calls a cat's a cat and when he doesn't like something he says it loud and clear so i think a lot of the power that came within mr trump is also there are a different nation of common sense he doesn't use very special world or anything and in my french view when i look at president he is the opposite of that is somebody who has made totally artificially and we see that with the common people
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which is why we have this crisis the yellow vest because people are aware now days that there is such a difference between them and this type of all of which is really something that could come from from communist russia in the days of from hungary or poland that it's discussed and we have that in brussels also. a very very chosen elite with their logo their speech there and they decided one day to think of a world that would be transgender and that would be opposed to menaced and if us citizen we have something to say about it well they might consider it but maybe they haven't ordered another day plan and are going to be a good a many well it's becoming it's because they're around comes around their more because they're morally superior to us right now to pay to believe deep down they believe that they're morally superior to us when we go to lionel you know what the
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yellow vests found out we found out that mccrone is is brain. made of cork ok they found out ok it is ok it's not even wood it's cork it's even less quality poor quality lionel emanuel said she's optimistic i am not very optimistic here because of the radio forces that are against it i mean you know these social and social media platforms they can disappear you in broad daylight ok they can you can lose your job for using the wrong a pronoun i mean i can't go back and live in the u.s. i don't know i probably get arrested at the airport for some reason go ahead. oh i would highly advise against that kind of friend i would it's such a put at the biggest point but let me tell you this myself you know when you see a teacher who is in a kindergarten class or who is in a class for shop or something and the teacher has to swear not to promote any anything that would impede israeli trade and you wonder what does this have to do
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with kindergarten or why why is this important you use a particular word i'm teaching shop what the reason why i am not at all optimistic if i am pessimistic is that right now in our culture here it is a sign of it's like the neck tattoo i used to laugh i would say there's no way people will ever tattoo their face and more of their face permanently well so much for that so much older than something becomes fashionable and now people as you know we're having snowflakes and people use various terms but it is it is now becoming fashionable and i hope that one day this does mighty pendulum swings the other way but i don't think it's going to be for a while because right now i am applauded by me having more for example you know these allergies where i am against the following and what i tell you i will sit back in a class or read my work and i will wait wait for you to comment say anything and
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not only am i going to be applauded for be hyper sensitive and not only having you reprimanded but removed expunged obliterated ablated you know disappeared but i'm going to be held to a higher societal status because i'm showing my peers i am more sensitive than you are easily offended you and therefore i maintain a higher position. you know daniel that this whole identity theory and political strategy it caves in on itself i mean maybe you know you you put everybody in these little boxes a little tribes and. and then you look for the least advantages the most virtuous i mean it is marxism to its core it's just it's just it's the same old bottle with new wine ok i get it kerry in politics evidently caves in on itself ok and i it's only a matter of time here i mean i sometimes take the benedict option and to stand
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aside and watch these people destroy themselves because they will inevitably they will go ahead well it does it does go back to the concept of trying to achieve perfect safety you talk about coming back to the us you may not get arrested but when you get here going to have some guy groping you whacking your genitals taking away all of your individual rights because you've got to keep you safe and the idea but you know it come down to between being paused pessimistic an optimistic i think it's going to get worse before it gets better yeah but i think it will ultimately get better just look at the issue with the texas teacher all of a sudden people are waking up saying hold on in twenty six states in the us i'm the law i'm not allowed to say i'd rather not buy israeli products because i don't like their internal policies what the hell is that about i'm going to daniel that they think you they have a lot more people start to think what is interesting is that at least now americans can criticize their own government but they're not allowed to criticize a foreign government what is going on with that. exactly you can even call for the
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overthrow of your own government you just can't you just can't say don't buy israeli goods because they're terrible the palestinians i think people are going to wake up i think common sense will prevail unfortunate lot of the churches in the us dominate people's thinking when it comes to the middle east and in my opinion inaccurately but i think thinking people will start to realize this is insane this whole concept of four speeches in space insane well you know i hope that everyone on this program knows and we'll come back to it because there's always a space for free speech not in for speech on this program many thanks and i guess in paris new york and in lake jackson and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t. see you next time and remember girls. you
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