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the sols three suspects saying that we can trick was for tourism and not for an assassination attempt. biggest event in football the world cup. to all football fans and the greatest football teams on the planet. the. protests and riots in france the government these are the most violent protests in the fifteen protests over the fuel tanks rising to the country this organization has received over two million pounds of public money and eighteen months he's been engaging in a smear campaign against the legal position of the labor party. i'm afshin rattansi of our special season finale of going on the gravity a team with legendary journalist and filmmaker john pilger john thanks for coming on so the yeah ending with questions and paloma the u.k.
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military linked foreign office operation this is a tax call been and this channel what's your take on the integrity initiative i'll just tell you them all to defend democracy against disinformation. well i would say satire but it isn't. but it's been it's been dog from a whole mocked cold war it sounds like the one nine hundred fifty but it's sort of rather more serious than that because it does tell us where so much of journalism has gone. has been lost. because the journalists the named in these documents journalists and named in these documents and they've gone along with it and as far as i understand that it's. a foreign office funded propaganda unit. which. once journalists to. count russian
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this information to get their own side you know this is this is what i call vishy journalism this is journalism of those who are going alone with the state it's having grown up in the cold war i find it quite difficult to believe that journalists some of them distinguished in their own many but willing journalists distinguished in their own right. should go alone should allow themselves to be indulged by the british government at a time when there is. a litany of lies about. russia about china about so many issues that in dangerous. the prospect of war with russia the prospect of war with china
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in danger us that the public have a right to understand and truthfully have a right to know about and that's our job as journalists and for journalists to be going alone to a foreign office. meeting. and it's set up by something called the institute of state growth which is in a wetsuit in a at mt milligan scotland run by we think tunnel let's wasn't very subtle but it's not satire. in another sense because why are journalists doing this has journalism got to that point robert fisk said recently that it's become a cancer as he put it a cancer at the bottom of journalism that so many journalists are now speaking for power are going along with power our power alf power when i say how i'm
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talking about british government the u.s. government the west the inventor of the cold war a cold war actually doesn't exist in most of the world most of the world doesn't know what it's about it exists in the enlightened centers of london and washington . and perhaps in berlin and brussels and elsewhere you see obviously mainstream media hasn't really been covering the story because they've been favoring breck's it negotiation coverage but that will it has a bit of mainstream media they have been saying that the reporting all of the existence of such alleged to british taxpayer funded conspiracy is itself. shows that most go is trying to undermine the democratic values all of britain and this is a you know with the screwball incident and the b.b.c. has defended his decision to be asking now for information about russian influence
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over the russians are behind the yellow but they shouldn't frogs. i think it is true they're casually behind the bad weather i think that may be all the rest is a grotesque black joke. there is no evidence no real evidence at all of russia gate the scriptural affair produced no evidence that would stand up in a court of law. these things may have happened i don't know but no evidence and it is now accepted by journalists as ok i've been a journalist for a long time and i've covered and these situations i've never known i've never known the such a grotesque absurdity as the the the the elevation
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of russia and china and the perceived enemies to. the kind of cold war status they had when i was a child so it's good i mean i know that it's going to charity commission is now investigating the charity angle of this because it's not russia that's just the enemy it's generally cool when the leader of the opposition of course jeremy jeremy cope and as it is i'm tired of believe the threat to all that we hold dear the absurdity of that the man cannot even be what he is a moderate labor leader of the opposition and we'd like to actually. turn up the gas a little speak up a little more no he's a threat to wall that's whole held the it is connected with the intelligence says isn't cool been obviously does one describe trident despite his putting of the thing that was once described trident but the he also. has put in positions of authority those who don't want to scrap trident you know he has plenty in his van
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paid in these polity you don't want to scrap tried and have said they don't want. but that's a threat is that what's that a threat to why do these people have this power but the question is suppose that bowl always had power it's called the deep state national security state but the real question is why did journalist go along with them instead of. at best mocking what they do but revealing what they do because that what they do has nothing to do with democracy and they do it in the name of democracy or would they repeat over and over again it has nothing to do with that and says suggests that. a labor leader who has made some modest proposals and may well win the next election is a threat is obscene. well the journalists and we've contacted some of them i should
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say david iran of edge of the times is deny being part of the conspiracy about lee but. well carol tell war that he said that james milne is somehow connected with russia that i am a subject of the miller inquiry into donald trump's collections she stands by it by saying actually i mean she presume he would say to you being with how she just went to a meeting and she just she's not she didn't know i don't think about it she's at least one of the leading investigative journalists but then there was a document wasn't there i think in two thousand and ten. leaked by wiki leaks and it was from the ministry of defense how to deal with leaks and of course we keep lake's leaked it. but the three threats to democracy. were russian spies of course terrorists but the greatest threat for investigative journalists. i really
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a threat as because i still have whole unsolved investigative journalists should investigate the names in this. we're only getting leaks and leaks are being destroyed pablo miller was with chris was dealing with fire and he'd talk to his group while the conference was at the front anglo one one element of this is that. julius was fingered by the god ian newspaper and they crops up elements of this it was due diligence fingered by the go news paper as meeting trump's campaign yes schieffer let was a fabrication a complete fabrication and we should guardian stands by in terms of the only evidence and by whatever it was a fabrication it didn't happen i've been in that embassy many times it was impossible for man a foreign russians to be in that evidence it's denied totally leaks is really
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something like eight hundred thousand documents about russia about the russian state the vladimir putin would love to be in about the kremlin some of these documents have been used in court cases by the russia and outside of russia. it's an extraordinary. library of of documents reveal his russian front revealing much about this in the almost never mention the idea that julian assange was some kind of front for the russians again is absurd i can only say that over and over again it's absurd it's untrue. it it's foals why the guardian of done this. we should be able to watch them but they won't tell us because it is approaching a kind of on state. it's it's a it's
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a vendetta and question serious questions have been put to the editor in chief of the guardian by jonathan cook a former guardian journalist. and for some reason she hasn't replied to them why not isn't this a newspaper isn't this about revealing. but this is happened before hasn't it. it's happened before going back to nine hundred eighty one when the guardian released the documents that allowed the whistleblower separatist to be prosecuted and finally to go to prison. it's happened a number of times it happened two years ago when a full the full front page of the guardian and a page inside was given to a public relations story featuring the new head of m i five previously that being a public relations story featuring the new head of
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a minus six who told us there that m i six would be much more a multi-ethnic than that spain now. what is going on the newspapers. fully in bed with these people up a hof in bed are they sitting on the end of the bed. or are they journalists john let's just stop there for a second when i'm over john pilger after this break. i certainly don't expect that very many people will choose to be biologically through a big biological means your body isn't working for it also means your mind isn't working so well i believe that indeed we will have pretty much no biologically old people even though of course we will have a much greater number of call of if we old people.
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my seven years doing drugs my nephews was still in drugs my sister just me doing drugs it was like an epidemic of drug abuse america's public enemy number one in the united states is drug abuse started going to happen to users in a prison population. we started treating sick people people who are addicted to these drugs like criminals while i was on the hill i increasingly became the war on drugs. there are countless numbers of people who are in prison for. a long sentence and for minor minor offenders in the drug trade it's a lot watching your children grow up in issue in wave and say by day as you're walking out of the business it's just it doesn't get easier.
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welcome back i'm still here with award winning journalist and filmmaker john pilger for the special edition of going underground we were talking about journalism being co-opted ironically day killing of a washington post writer a saudi insider shoji should wake the world up or at least mainstream media up to the world's worst humanitarian crisis this is yes i mean it was a particularly hideous separate. and if if you like it captured. the rather bleak imagination of many people killing of searching but you're right to say it and. there are so many distractions so many diversion for journalists and to journalists allowed themselves to and which. i wonder how many have gone to yemen and seen. or
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have. tried to. to saudi arabia and to u.a.e. . to see the british role in what is being told by. u.n. agencies and others is in effect a genocide against the yemeni people. sanity's in britain deny it's a genocide as you say they they can deny of course a denial is sort of. is the nature. but the fact. that saudi arabia who's a croft supplied by whose load logistics supplied by. the united states and britain targeting courtesy of britain.
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has wreaked the most hideous havoc on one of the poorest countries in the world why isn't the suffering of the people of yemen absolutely burnt into the consciousness of the readers viewers and listeners of western media that's a question that's a question to be honest of journalists who call themselves and call themselves investigative journalists and the journalists for example the forty children in the bus the school bus. were cool by a lot and bomb supplied by the united states the united states admitted it there's no question the croft as i say and the that the backing. for saudi arabia your way into its assault on the people of yemen comes
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from our governments in the god makes of breaks it to resume even took time out to address the conservative friends of israel we know leadership exporting more than ever to israel trade secretary liam fox met with netanyahu discussing closely bush breaks a trade deal is more weaponry yes perhaps more weaponry britain doesn't sell a huge amount of its two to israel but it does so important very important to israel but the importance of his row in the whole. nexus the arms market is clear. israel is the watch tell the watchdog if you like of all of us british. and western so cold interests in the middle east keeping the middle east permanently unstable. and ensuring that alms markets. are not
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all the time such is the almost insatiable. market in the in saudi arabia so so israel is extremely important for a number of reasons because israel and britain and the united states lost their a war with the backing for al-qaeda linked eyes is going people in syria this this yeah there's been reports of a chemical attack though b. c w maybe going by the rebels not by the syrian government. do you think do you think that i have taught these nato countries a lesson that they couldn't overthrow the government of bashar less and they'll keep trying to go there's no question about that. even though that is just isis day as you know you would be back. there would they will be the key prying they'll do
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it through the kurds and they will keep trying because. syria is unfinished business. the overthrow syria is unfinished business israel wants it they want it for israel. and syria most incredibly has survived. the regime and. the state has survived unlike say libya which was crushed so a modern state has survived in syria a modern state was crushed in in libya. it's it's . it's a time of i mean i think john bolton who is trump's national security adviser said well it's not on her face implied not to march when he said that we alway mean in the middle east is not to support regimes it is to divide it is to keep it
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unstable so that when we want to move we can. and that's the situation at the moment in the middle east george w. bush famously said iraq was unfinished business from his father what did you make of the unit g.'s to the death of george h. w. bush when he it's very difficult to get satire going because these are terribly serious subjects and george bush was one of the leading undoubtably one of the leading great criminals of the time he was going right back to the ninety's sixty's he opposed the civil rights act. he. he he was when he was director of the cia he was in charge of operation will which was a continent wide assassination program that caused an enormous amount of death and
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mayhem. he he conducted borders known wrote the euphemistically is the first gulf war there was no war in fact there was no most assault by overwhelming forces. at led by general schwarzkopf. and of course president bush on on iraq. later on and saw the shelter where four hundred and eight women and children burned sooner a to. by george h.w. bush was bowman's as they are the missiles as they target this knowing as now and knowing that civilians were seeking
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shelter there the bearing alive of iraqi troops. the many atrocities that alone forgotten long forgotten not far as they families are concerned but known forgotten as far as the media. is concerned the civilians. who were denied water and schools what george h.w. bush was destroy. a modern state affectively he reduced it and deliberately the plans to destroy sanitation and and and basic facilities are now well known so his canonize ation. at this funeral or tribute whatever it was. had a particular bleak irony but there was frankly no coverage here in britain of a author william bluhm who i know you've read but against all the coverage of
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george bush. why would him bum was cool and bill bloom is one of the great american running ads. and the united states does produce great renegades people who were once in the system as as bill bluhm was he was once worked for the state department he then became in the story and and he became as an a story in in fine forensic the tile of rapacious washington the number of bombs that fell on countries the number of leaders they tried to assassinate a. the number of war was that they that the washington implemented against defenseless countries and so on in his books. the secret history the cia rogue state and many others bill bluhm documented
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these and i was terribly sorry to hear that he died because we've lost a very rare. historian the the silence of historians is one of the problems that we have these days the people who know about what is done to other countries bill braun was one of those who spoke up i was reading the other day. he quoted khadafi bill was capable of finding out he was actually a particularly good investigative journalist finding out what people said. that we knew almost nothing about and could duffy had had warned that if he was attacked in two thousand and eleven that if his if his if libya was destroyed as adventure he was of course the bin. then then
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a stampede of people through libya to europe would happen. now copies relationship with africa was interesting because he he tried to. he had certain ambitions to create african banks to create an african currency and so on but he was also a gate keeper. and what he was saying. bill bellamy quote was he was he was full costing what has now happened that all these poor people have sort some kind of refuge in countries greece italy now who are turning them back or leaving them in the tension camps. the present migration crisis in europe is
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a direct result of the assault on libya now bill blubbers one of the few who did use that and gave us the evidence for ahead of anything in the twenty nine hundred dollars i think he said the bill blow also if you read his work you see that show business at the. outlier bad apple in the way to the trumps no to but apple and trump trumps an embarrassment the problem with trump. he doesn't see himself as a problem but. for the so cool resistance that sees american public takes as anti trump isn't. that trump is is a character true of the whole system whereas hillary clinton embodies the system trump is a caricature of it. and and buddhists the very presence of
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trump scripts the mosque. all those things that bill wrote about the z. is it if it strips away the the the mosque of all of this great repay should rogue state as bill brown called it that's very embarrassing to those who have been giving us nonsense such as the democratic party the clinton the bushes the obama is as obama said america is the only exceptional nation. from this as this is a fabulous show i want to really say what it comes down to the optional. try try try try trumps very presence and what he does he's grotesqueness if you
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