the fish and if the young lady says that she does not want to embrace and and give up the control of her body then she has the right to say so and we have to create a environment where our girls are ok saying no here's why you want to do it all the guys only if i mean anything i got a toy i'm going to interrupt you know my my sincerest i want to use many thanks to you both lady psycho now or even jane allowed in women right now and i make a you and make you say that is everyone saying to you both ladies thank you. i thank you guys for tuning in this evening the latest news updates coming your way in half.

time after time so you know what you're going on the ground while we're away for christmas with screenings of your favorite episodes of the season coming up in this his british saudi arabia's partner in the yemen the war the u.a.e. subverting u.k. democracy doesn't run cons nuclear pakistan continues i.m.f. negotiations with the look east or west so what did yesterday's remembered sunday sermon you really mean hip hop artist and activist loci on the demise of nato. i

mean the hundred year anniversary of the day coming up in today's going on the ground the first time with david miller of lobbyist investigated spin watch david thanks so much for going on being a legal activity here in britain what's in your new report concerning the united arab emirates where we look at the loping in this country which really starts as a result of the spring where the moving slowly perhaps towards democracy they see the arab spring which promises democracy and they don't like it so they just say that they're going to set a face against them to try and undermine the possibility of democracy in their country or they would say standing up for us traditions and people will know the u.a.e. is a dubai is a tourist destination and so they spent a lot has been a lot of money particularly this country to try and marginalize the opposition and that country and also in this country so they try to pressurize the british government for example to investigate the muslim brothers and british government acceded to that demand they pressured them in particular by threatening to withhold

b.p. contracts threatening possibility of three billion systems contracts so there was a lot of arm twisting and. bribery essentially and i think this is not standard lobbying i guess but this is what they did in order to get their political demands and the political among the particular to encourage the idea that the muslim brotherhood is a threat to democracy everywhere that it's a terrorist organization which is plainly absurd in terms of that they. should say that one should say. of course it was worth it in this day. and so there was an attempt then to try and marginalize to that encourage a whole lot of essentially islamophobia ideas about the role of muslims in public life try to marginalize muslims in public life but the thing which shocked me the most and i'm kind of used to neo conservatives being islamophobia then we turn it turns out that quite a lot of this is actually being pushed by the united i mean out of a. it's in

a way which so anyway it's the israeli lobby and the same kind of tactics naturally in the end we discovered the same thing tanks being employed by the us funded by the zionist movement by the israel people in this country and in others with the denies any idea any accusation of bribery i'm sure they probably say carrot and stick but you also have e-mails in this report suggesting that the chair of the u.k. foreign affairs select committee you're going to not an old friend of this show because he quoting now a treasury official they were talking it well the they targeted the whole range of political movers and shakers yes in parliament the foreign affairs committee yes and the conservative middle east which is funded largely by the we but also you know the cabinet and the prime minister david cameron and they much wider than you know journalists think tanks a whole range of political ads talkers yeah one eyes i mean they're the barclay brothers telegraph peace to all getting the muslim brotherhood. and you see that is

coming from the lobbying activity well it was very senior people from the who we know have got the e-mails who were systematically briefing key journalists who they thought would be sympathetic towards what white politely called islamophobia going on these issues and that they did a lot of things and a lot of things came as a result of some of the stuff i guess the journalists might have done by themselves without the help of the all the journalists would just say yeah at least they got a lot of help to do some of those things and so yeah it was an also an attempt to try and marginalize those journalists who were students critical of the. democratic politics so they talked to people in the b.b.c. arabic service who they didn't like to try and get them sacked there's a whole range of dissidents in this country who got asylum in this country who the . loving cup company the hardin in london to drop to what is going to be a. yes crew other and he's not there anymore but the ex foreign office official

gerald russell he used there was tony blair's point of the nine eleven that's right here so obviously media you know inside the foreign office and then worked very closely with the much of this like to know what is the point of there's no wrongdoing but these journalists and politicians should be declaring this in the public that they will of course that they be the rules of disclosure which should be used but it's not just a question of disclosure when you put all this together you say you're seeing strong arm tactics to manage and manipulate in century some fart traditions of british democracy and i you know there are many problems of british democracy but this is an extraordinary range and depth of activity which had concrete influence you know the setting up of an inquiry into the muslim brotherhood came as a result only if he was a specific outcome which they got by threatening economic bribery essentially we'll get the government's view on that i'm sure they'll say that they had other accusations but as you say the subversion of democracy then all the white

a geo political scale connects directly. world peace itself the wider context being the u.s. pro trump line i should say the emirates are different policies arguably to be which is the capital. and the violation of un resolutions they're lying the same as the israelis lying. brotherhood to qatar and there until iran and they've encouraged and continued to encourage along with their neighbors the saudis . a hatred of those countries in an attempt to move against those countries of which you know that the trump decision to reintroduce sanctions in iran is part of the agenda because the world's worst humanitarian crisis is the moment yemen this last obviously the u.a.e. . and saudi arabia speaking about this that the he is in the lead here the two runs the motor is the mentor and the mentee the is m.b.a.'s who runs

saudi arabia he was put into place by by them they expended extreme political caps you know this from the leaked emails from a table at the. u.s. we're sure that they were backing up in the early days and b.s. and trying to say was he he's a reform or all these interesting things will happen and that they are behind been directing in a way the sort of what we saw when we see what's happened with the saudis the murder of. cetera and we see the activities of the saudis and targeting around for example the new t.v. channel iran international which is run by the saudis through through a front group. part of the same strategy which is to try and demonize and marginalize iran so that you say these are have significant consequences for world peace it's not just a question of you know perhaps slightly corrupting lobbying practices i'm talking someone would say he appointed moment been silent as the crown prince david miller thank you well while britain sides with the u.a.e.

and saudi arabia and yemen. and as long been accused of being the u.s.a.'s poodle in afghanistan iraq libya and syria one of its commonwealth nations this week faces a dilemma with iran collins nuclear armed pakistan take i.m.f. money or turn to saudi arabia and china or both joining me now via skype from the pakistani capital is former minister of state chairman of pakistan's border investment names i mean diaries now c.e.o.'s coming to our capital one thanks for coming back on the show how would you characterize then the nature of pakistan's talks this week with the i.m.f. i think it's a good start it's important at least we got out of that what right have enough funding for at least the next twelve months from china and saudi arabia gives us a lot of space in negotiating room without a mess i want to get on to drag her in saudi arabia but as you know around the developing world the i.m.f. doesn't have that going to reputation and usually calls for mass privatization as a loan condition is that what pakistan is going to do under imran khan the government has been. you know first of all you structure

a lot of the student prices before you produce it and you don't steal a lot. lines decided they restructure it so it's been made a public you know it's very hard to negotiate a good driver deisel gas but do the easier more know how you want what the government should be in business anyway yeah but there's a story in the japanese financial times saying that there are going to be loads of privatizations but i understand terry collins after successfully stopped steel privatisation in the past few days that's right they haven't really stopped to do what we've said is the need to restructure it make sure that you're going to buy ability which becomes invested well and becomes an engine for growth rather than you know impudent some people that say arguably the companies are never ready public service is another never ready for privatization of door but why go for the i.m.f. the bretton woods washington institution when there's so much the attraction it seems from brics countries russian telecoms investment. chinese investment there

any need to go with the i.m.f. only one of the reasons to go to the m.f. is to send a signal to all the global markets stable and to really create a platform to get more investment we are already voice for crawled pakistani's eight percent or more crude street to accommodate on its young people rate there is no other way at this point you see some critics say the near liberal privatization policies lead to inequality we saw that certainly in the benazir bhutto's premiership do you not think that the area i'd be bank which wouldn't perhaps specify this kind of privatisation on condition would be a better bet i think we could take all the funding we can get. i don't think privatisation would be the all you generate a lot i.m.s. and therefore i think there will be some accommodation on both sides you know one of the reasons presumably is because the six million dollars from saudi arabia what do you make of the pakistani parliament voting against sending pakistani troops to

the u.k. bags out the coalition in the world's worst humanitarian crisis yemen i think this gearbox of what for that and we've said you'd be our neutral. in this region but one thing you've done is you know just would do to all sides if you told the saudis that if you are attacked you are there to support you and defend you i think there was real concern on saudis part in terms of their national security. from that point through i did them a backstop yeah but of course in nato nations all we hear about is a good show gee murder in in istanbul taking six billion dollars from saudi arabia at this point in time we've got a close relationship. is this and we've got to move forward to those issues that are beyond our control we cannot influence what happens to us central. some much larger word the. responded differently. on our

focus of our son's future and this was important for us and just to your knowledge any meetings with liam fox the. cabinet member here about breaks it deals with pakistan so it is the fifth most populated country in the word so huge market opportunity they should be removed from a low income to treat it where u.p.a. is strong the service is for national service especially. this is what boxer meat is of a strong diaspora one point two million people about saudi origin in the united kingdom and that's you know that's a very strong relationship debatable lens on and i thank you thank you after the break what links farrell tony robinson and the i.d.f. we speak to award winning hip hop artist and activist gnocchi told us more coming up in part two going underground.

join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guest on the world of politics sports business i'm showbusiness i'll see you then. welcome back the last twenty four hours of mainstream media were filled by tourism a consistent voter for bombing iraq syria and libya in voter against strengthening the military government laying a wreath to remember one hundred years since almost this day joining me now is hip hop artist and activist loki let's get your take pride in your political must as mistresses have been commemorating on the end he is the point with world war one is a field that is in a systemic way an attempt to withdraw people's capacity for critical thinking so if we look at really the basis of britain entering world war one there were five

justifications for it and all. them can quite easily be debunked so number one the thing that we are told is that britain were legally obliged to. guarantee the neutrality of belgium through the london treaty that was signed in the eighteenth thirty's when in actuality as has been proved by dominic sandbrook that was a right rather than a legal obligation number one number two there is this perception that somehow if kaiser wilhelm was to get into france then the second was to get into france it would be an absolute disaster that well germany and france went to war in eighteen seventy one and one hundred fifty thousand people died that is of course catastrophic but that's nothing compared to twenty million people dying number three is the idea and bertrand russell actually has an amazing quote when he says the british and the french say they're fighting for democracy don't let them hear that in st petersburg in calcutta because of the point was is that in britain only eighteen percent of the male population could vote but in germany twenty two

percent of men's population could vote so the enemy was more democratic and i know you will learn about bertrand russell the british philosopher in the new song of yours yes yes i mean and also you know there's the argument that it was the difference of small nations but that belgium had been in the congo and cause over ten million deaths ok and britain walk you point twelve million seven hundred thousand miles of the globe so how does that work if you look at the other argument was that it was about securing british naval supremacy well it's clear that actually these reports had come from a gentleman working for coventry ordinance company that were basically creating these ideas that the germans were in some way had these secret plans to overcome the british but that was debunked to the point that winston churchill came out and said actually that was a lie besides in one thousand twenty two after world war one britain in the washington navy treaty with the united states and japan basically submitted the seas to some extent to these other two powers more over. if we're actually to look

at what it was really about it was about extending british colonial power because britain at the beginning of the war q by twelve million seven hundred thousand miles of the globe by the end they occupied fourteen million miles of the globe and of course it was largely to do with the middle east and the oil that was there because you know in one thousand nine hundred nine they had founded the anglo iranian oil company and they saw that moving from coal to petrol to oil would be something that would be advantageous to them you know and that was the way it was just a and these are themes brought out in the song called you're going to play that the end of the show a mistake by the powers that be mainstream media in this country that they avoid what you were talking about well i think i do think and something really interesting about that time is that you had a conglomerate led by alfred noble the inventor of dynamite it was called the noble trust and what it was is it was three british arms companies and four german arms companies know what it was done. it was done in order to decrease competition

between them and they were all shareholders in the same company so for the first two years of world war one you had german shareholders making money off of german deaths and for the first two years of world war one you had british shareholders making money off of british debts so what i find quite interesting is the continuities between the world of the arms trade number one in world war one but number two in this to ality in the way they behave you know of course we saw m b d a which is an arms company that multinational american would be a systems as well they actually both sides in the libyan war in two thousand and eleven so this constantly repeats itself this kind of version a lot of different will get their views but i'm sure they get in themselves by saying libya was an early in their brief moment when tony blair was a great friend a good effie's yeah yeah i mean i don't know we're going to get there a response yet so aside from that history of a world war one we're having

a poppy debate here in the job lloyd's a. you know i just condemned even though is going to yugoslavia of course was destroyed by nato britain taking part under john major surprises that even more recent conflicts cannot be. really addressed when it comes to a football player not wanting to wear the british legion puppy well i mean the whole basis for the poppy originally was put forward from a poem in which the implication was that if you don't continue fighting then you're in bad faith of the people that died and lady hague who is the wife of one of the disgraced figures in the british military because of his sub par performance during world war one frankly she was the person she was the person that came up with the idea of using the poppy to guarantee national unity at a time when britain was considered to be right with revolution in fairness to the people they have removed the hague from the black bit inside the poppy and yeah

arguably to distance themselves from alleged you know on the issue of the british legion their president was in two thousand and twelve investigated by the sunday times and was forced to step down because it came out that he'd offered his services as an arms lobbyist to people he believed to be arms dealers from korea you know you have be a systems involved in the poppy ball previously you have fails setting up shop in arms company french arms company at westminster tube station you have not keyed martin also sponsoring another ball for the general remember and stay in the celebration of these things you know the point is that arms companies had the same interest then as they have now and that is making money and imbuing people with an m. o. d. and b. a system sponsored conception of the past in order for them to think less critically about the present and the past few days there has been an iconic photograph from palestine and people comparing it to david versus goliath what do you make of the david in that picture maybe in short. british made sniper rifle but

straight with israel as a record why do you think it's not really debated the british wing of israel because i feel that you know palestinians have been rendered kind of expendable on people you know they are collateral damage to the relationship which is considered a red line in the british establishment unfortunately here recording artist notably recording artist for ill and others have been raising tens of millions for i.d.f. funds for veterans of the israeli defense forces there's a connection between federal and tony robinson on the ultra right here and well ok interesting the robot showman is the former he was on the board of directors for the friends of the israel defense force they are the forces they are the biggest international donor to the i.d.f. you know just last year i think it was seventy two million dollars they donated but according to lucy brown who's an ex employee of tony robinson told me robinson was receiving ten thousand pounds per month from showman as

a showman fellow so here we see a connection you know another interesting connection to tommy between tommy robes in israel is of course middle east forum and you know the director of middle east forum is gentleman called greg roman a former employee of the israeli foreign ministry and the israeli defense ministry and middle east for of course fund the. legal fees and also the free tommy campaign and protests which of course had people chasing police down the street wednesday is another silent march for grand lots of news about toxic soil and other elements but the papers and the media particularly fascinated by the pulling activities of a group of people on november the fifth what did you make of the ground for the legacy what i think the really important thing here is not to deemphasize the recent victories that have been had by the campaign so number one was the victory and particularly you know we can attribute it to. go ahead he who is

a member of the bereaved in the community who tirelessly since the fire took it point himself to lobby the housing minister which changed i think about three times but eventually they made a concession which was to change building regulations to now a one in a two level of flammability is required in the construction industry that was something that he had to prise from the government really against their will be seen by some as pretty small victories given that we're hearing the use of toxic of live all the oil around i mean i think we're going to be safe on wednesday even during the silent march one that i know you know of course i mean as someone that lives directly there is something that is deeply deeply worrying for us but i think at the same time we should also at the same time as being cognizant about the risks to people and about the many many different ways in which that disaster has manifested in difficult ways and in dangerous ways into our lives to also

appreciate that there is a dialectic process and a push and pull factor at work and that the people that since the fire were transformed into safety campaigners are actually working for the whole country you know we are struggling on behalf of everyone including in fact those people that made that ridiculous and hideous and horrifying video you know we are struggling for the safety of everyone in this country and i think the sooner that people come to that realisation and see themselves in the bereaved and the grieving in the area then the better just as ongoing of course in yemen the. assassination of doing that was just a blip or do you think the british government may actually stop training of pilots well i mean of course historically it's believed that curtis has written about this britain were involved in a coup in saudi arabia to bring king face up. to the throne in the sixty's as far

as i understand so it's not outside the realms of possibility that we would now currently be somewhat surrounded by some mechanisms that would attempt to move from our power but at the same time i do think it is unlikely you look at the you know the killing of jim. one of the most telling things for me in the british concept context was the hypocrisy of the phobia industry because surely if you're one of these main superstars of the islamophobia industry that we have your main point of . concentration would be be a systems selling you know almost i think five billion pounds worth of weapons the saudi government you know surely you would be aiming your resistance towards the british government since they have people from the british military helping with targeting actually in the operation theaters with the saudis where they're

targeting people people in yemen but yet it seems these people these charlatans and sycophants are merely mercenaries for the one percent they want to direct people's islamophobia in a horizontal direction rather than in a vertical direction of course there has been cause now for people to come together and you know and talk and cease fires and whatnot you know this is after the united states have made huge huge amounts of money in weapons deals you know that trump has been the main ambassador for and of course it's after you know the british policy which is continued from philip. you know tourism is the. in her position as well you know they they have made their money they've made their human blood money unfortunately blokey thank you loki and karim come on with their song refused to kill. you. you. know not. what.

matthew is a man. on the views of the man. no not. is there and we talk about balance c.a.v. evil murderous conformity mentality is lethal our overall system is the savagery of this insanity and tragedy of fallacies they feed you this is for the quakers that will die before taking your purchase in their prison he survive before support or rejected by society for ever so concealed he is the real you mr be your version sober feel this is the conviction will say i was aware it was murder this is the tradition two thousand and three was searching for terms a want to anybody's was searching for services the feet in the store to load in this is to each which me dad in jail she did and she said her eyes then they are sort of humor new brands and swear words on the conscience of the solutions of freedom there were few still to kill with the fiction you care the incident where.

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families that sylvia is reachable they can see you can assume and then they can just read from sign this for me and. i want you. you. you. you. well that's it for this year will contribute to show your favorite episodes and you were back for a brand new season on wednesday january bill then you can touch us why social media uses.

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