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welcome to unique edition of cross talk we answer questions from you the viewers some of you sent to me very interesting question. greetings from salutation. out of chile tuesday evening with the full moon high in the sky here at this house of big gambles on long shots the political world here in the united states was shaken to its very core because it was here at canterbury park in minnesota the former wrestler a hollywood actor and the mayor of brooklyn park minnesota jesse ventura shocked
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the world and became the thirty eighth governor in the state of minnesota today and watching the hawks we will look back on that historic win and take a look at his time in office and the true changes that he implemented and the things he fought for in his battles with the political establishment and the mainstream media so take a journey with us as we celebrate the twentieth anniversary of governor jesse ventura. so you would know to see the tree the face of real the tree just like. in the last day at the bottom of. the ship. with the like you not i got. with that we. would prefer this. to do. what. caused me to run for governor i kind of french myself
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to help us celebrate and remember the twentieth anniversary of the political campaign that shocked the world former governor jesse ventura was joined by several key figures in his campaign and administration campaign chairman dean barkley bill hillsman the campaign advertising guru and political strategist. running mate. school teacher made. and finally the communications director for the ministration john dean barkley will really was the one that got me interested in the third party movement because i've always been anti democrat and republican and in my neighborhood up there all of a sudden i started seeing nice barkley signs for congress or senate i forget congress barkley barkley and i kind of thought who is this barkley what is this independence party at the time. and so on i got involved very. i realized that the majority of the independents. were disgruntled democrats and republicans and
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the system's failing and they want something new and. i felt that way also in supporting again when he ran. a long story short. fourth of july parade and he asked me to walk in it so we're walking through. the crowds going crazy but they're going crazy for me you know you're not in d.c. and i'll never forget he leaning over to me and whispering there didn't have to whisper it was pretty loud he said she dies running. genesis. all right you know it was my town it's a little unfair. but. please read. and i just. this would translate in the political pop.
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great big. economy in the. strong. taxation rate. and i was doing talk radio and i was outraged. that's the people's. money. i made a statement on the radio one day i said maybe i ought to run for governor since the feeling out there that people were looking for something else. the centers never represented it's always the left on the right on the far wing. made to pick. it quote the lesser of the two evils i guess when you get a candidate that occupies the center the left and right them can make inroads and i
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knew and plus i knew that we needed to get. voters who didn't normally vote so i figured there's about twenty four to twenty five percent that are already voted for and independent with well as is ok then what we have to do and you're right we had to expand the electorate says we can get to twenty five but how do we get to thirty five to thirty seven and i figured well the young voter doesn't vote for nothing if we can motivate that walk of voters to take it stands and show off we have a shot we did the first part of the campaign and that would lead sr well what you do is you do exactly you go to them that's just what they do you go to the people still unit you didn't like it's hard on others might be slow degrees. will fly but i mean you think of a governor can he oh i understand i'm sure what the other side there are al
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michaels running there now russia at the time so i think it was one of the campaign was let her be there on limited power a day before and you know but never as i dropped off through the line of the campaign manager was appalled to have yeah there's a bolt out barak and i know he'd run told him he can't make this stuff up knowing that it was a complete. it was as grass roots as you could possibly as early as just three four people you know the least there was you know i remember dean taking me to a debate i think was a twin cities public teletext right and we were sitting in a cafeteria or something watching this debate and that was one. i just decided you have to work for jesse because he was so different from middle in those debates so you know i mean you're widely known for your creative. townsend campaigns you were actually part of the strategy in you were there really in the numbers yeah we
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really did we had really good voter targeting by that grows as well and the only thing people forget about this campaign it was really the first effective use of the internet yes you know in a political campaign. we didn't have a feel or it is the feeling ization is people emailing other people but there are some pretty big indicators people forget the context of the entire race we were at the state fair the democrats for some reason that still eludes me invited everybody to their debates so jesse would show up other third party candidates show up and every time i'd watch these debates go on. everybody would be nodding when jesse spoke so it's not hard to figure out if you're at a democratic primary that and there's five candidates in the democratic primary and this guy is the second choice of almost everybody there you start to go through
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this is a very different dynamic than we've ever seen before if he's the second choice of all the democrats that's pretty good that's an awfully good starting place when i initially rare on there were multiple opponents because i was in the debates very early on before the primaries even came around but when it got down after the primaries it got down to the big true or if you include me three and that was. pomfrey of the democrat hubert humphrey son the former vice president's son and he was the current attorney general. mayor norm coleman the mayor of st paul who they always saw i found it very interesting that you had humphrey was always referred to by his political title of attorney general humphrey coleman was always referred to as mayor norm coleman and even though cold. i had no more mayor than i did i was always former pro wrestler jesse ventura so i was the only candidate that had
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his private sector job put in front of his name where the public and i have been a mayor so should knight shouldn't be former mayor jesse ventura because we're talking politics here but that's the bias that i faced but in hindsight that was probably good but if they did name the other two his private sector jobs i don't want to landslide because then it would have been four more years spear pumphrey and former lawyer norm coleman are some of the substance of those debates was really surprising to people and other things that happened in the debates had never happened i mean they would ask humphrey question and skip to his family disease of moderate you know so he starts talking immediately and you can see him trying to formulate an actual answer as he's talking so he uses up his entire two minutes they give the same question to norm coleman he starts talking right away
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he's trying to make his points he gets cut off because he's going to go over they ask jesse a question he says yes. and they say nobody knew what to do they say would you like to elaborate on it and he says us me a question i gave you an answer still nobody knew it to be nobody and i don't think you know history of politics or ever not used their entire two minutes to say something about the piggybacked i remember that now because i don't need million said yes. and then i'll never forget the moderator did have a sense of humor because i looked around when there was a struggle i said well i answered the question good night on the moderator of the new web yes the defeated so at that double song get him into the crowd good and all that required was a yes or no right in another debate it was a. friday night and the two other candidates are all dressed up. jesse shows up
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he's in his football coaching house should he not he's in like a sweatshirt in and innocence yeah i was almost x. yet right there and that's just banks people relate to somebody like that you know it wasn't all show and then finally there was the third debate where you told that amazing story about a gay wrestler whose companion couldn't get in the city and learning is dying of aids i mean i heard it sprung up all over the state when you said that that was one of the most affecting things i've ever seen wallet how can they have a sign telling you who you love you don't get to sit by your bedside to die for you in the emergency and because you again you're not allowed in there to soothe insanity you know and so and i think that. the fact that i didn't you should know children. you know people knew that that that the answers they were getting were true and from the heart the truth was what if you were looking at.
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jesse ventura and in the campaign from the outside as i was that's what started to resonate with me it was it was the truth and you would also often use examples of truth telling no just i gave you two things and took advice from me i said number one is tell the truth just don't want to think never to see if you don't know the answer minute yeah it's fine it'll make you look a real person you don't have it all there and just personal your performance in the beach you know we want from life beginning at september terrier shares today i'm going to up to the mid twenty's and we had to spend one penny an advertising and that mop i think we did a couple radio at that was that and that's the position actually when i looked it up. a day or two ago and just use it fifteen percent october first.
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thank finish third. so a tweet literally a twenty point jump in three weeks to. the . boy i think it certainly makes sense for for moscow to think strong and its contacts with the united states i just fear that the dominant view in this city is that it isn't nearly impossible until the united states kind of settle this domestic divide of the environment and in these seas you know i hate to say this was work toxic but that's exactly what it is and i think it's in a way you know you're damned if you're doing you're damned if you don't.
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early on in the campaign you know we did that we we did look at you know some of the results of how fish were progressing the monks the groups. naturally my to stop still on level of seven which we have i am sure that the chances of me becoming you know i needed to be softened by felt i felt strongly that i'm unsure boldin i'm sold the ranch that back to defend a lot of people i actually was polishing my kitchen cabinets that i get this call. so then they said my name is and i am on a committee for justified tour as
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a candidate for governor and i said. and they said we're wondering we would like to ask you to be his running mate i said no i'm a teacher i'm not a politician i knew that he wanted somebody who had a background in education because of this what of experience with education did in the schools and such and i thought well you nor i do not have i think i had about thirty years under my belt there ready of being a teacher and i knew the schools from the children point the parents point from the administrators and there were a lot of things that i thought need fixing so as i met with my family and they said well you're near retirement you are always talking about how to improve education and maybe this is your opportunity so i thought about that so the next day i got a call from jesse asking me if i would be interested in being his. running mate as
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lieutenant governor and i said yes i will. sell albums from that point i was so excited because i could talk about education you were crucial to the success of this ticket i mean there's no way i don't think that jesse lives within a few of the ticket because you can get a certain sense of gravity to us you know and education is so important to voters and to this day i don't know if people want them for your name but they know they're just going to run with it teach our city me aside from sean and we're discussing and he said we should do a victory term road to victory tour house the first time we came off oil half you know what second until our. all over the status. most order in forty eight hours or three days i have your us when vienna leaders all are here. and now we're
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going to chat there are slow at cern to do the film as a was there and he says well we should use the internet and do some live shots on each stop and fan of build some momentum so i know i said then i says ok stop doing everything else and let's make this a happen that was another thing that nobody had ever done before i mean people have done bus tours and stuff like that before but the whole rationale behind it was this is the next navy seal our campaign is committed we'll be campaigning when they're sleeping ten miles of. the road and then there's like thirty cars behind us with flags with balloons with all this following ocean and then as they'd leave others would replace them so we're going gaining people everywhere who go to rubble status wasn't exactly a well oiled machine so we would be running sometimes two three hours behind and we were going all night so you'd show up three hours late at two o'clock in the
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morning to someplace home or get that out and there was still a tremendous number of people there a new sunday night these people got to work monday morning these are farmers regular people but they waited there for two hours for us to arrive and we come out and it was unbelievable i mean people hanging at midnight in willmar minnesota paying off the building and of course the other two immediately imitate it so this skip humphrey goes out and gets a bus and he can't get anybody on the bus or to show up so they end up paying people to be on his bus carrying a proud yes bill and norm coleman has a bus that looks like something out of the music man i mean the whole thing they must spend way more money than we spent in the entire campaign on this bus because the bus would roll in. roll out the stuff that be like a stage and all the sound stuff going on to get up to the song and dance everything gets rolled up back in the bus off to the next stop we've done
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a lot of races and i have never seen people work as hard on a campaign as your people did and they were almost all volunteers all staff and everybody was almost dead at the end of that bus trip but they saw it through and it was an amazing success in fact i eyeball bread. we hope it would be oh yes confusion agent that's the job but everybody else on my campaign the only person that got paid was doug fried line and that's because he had to leave his job full time and take over you know the campaign for the party so we paid doug the equivalent of what he made so in the poll tax this is truly a people's campaign i don't think we've seen anything like it before or since the democrats other parties talk about their get out the vote program all are volunteers all this organization they have this was a situation where the people in minnesota organize themselves we were driving there to canterbury that night early evening there was
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a strange. circled around the mood in the sky that night the truly was because i remember my son and my wife and i all looked out at me and my son was in the backseat and dad something strange is going to happen he said that to me on the way in and so we went out there with that expectation but when i truly realized. it i always believed i could win but believing in actuality are two different things but what got me that night was when word came in that the lines to register were longer than the lines to vote that to me was the key you know we have same day registration in minnesota and i thought that's the key these people are not coming up to vote for the status quo old they're not waiting in line to vote for skip or more money they wait in line because it's their
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first time and i'll just state this. since then. how many young people have come up to me and it just makes me feel so good to tell me always you know you were the first person i ever folded for and that to me. more than anything of ever being the governor was the fact that we had that type of impact on the people he told us more on the possible receipt. that morning a little public over. the university of minnesota lions around the auctorial people like string devolve on the likes of that first time as many. as was the missing piece of old time were they going to show off i've never seen before or since the initial returns came in with you had thirty seven percent and you never moved i've never seen anything like this yes all night it was thirty
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seven percent and. almost trailing and he made a little bit of a movie at one point and i thought well that's the end of it now call annoyance but it never happened he would never get that there were center stage because when the first fairy returns came in the very first it was right in the order they call me the second returns came in and turn the goldman up to second and i think it was at five percent to seven percent was when i took the lead was at about this they had a three percent to five but a seven that they came in with initially and i went from why i asked to step in to first that was the real amazing thing is that it was skip and roger moen the put me in the debates thinking i was going to take the public and conservative votes with a fishpole conservative and it was the opposite comfrey at the time was polling like forty six percent said you screwed you thirty two where he was all the time and i was looking at it it was humphrey that went to forty eight and one hundred
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thirty seven sleepers enormous always within the margin of there never went up never went down although ever forget the fact that in the bill and i had already gone out once to the crowd and they were demanding i go all the and i said no i'm not gore not joe the election results are not borne out they're just walter you know i'm in the election's over i'll never forget bill is right here to my right side when on the t.v. set the flu shot came back to us and with two hours of being declared the winner i don't remember which you think should be c.c.d. nationally b.c. i don't know who read the first poll but then all of a sudden the goal the other two came right along the border and here's what got to there was only the sixty percent of the whole deal. and they were declaring me the winner. everyone wanted me to go out there and i said i'm not going out there i should go in there's only sixty percent of the vote column that i said you want me
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to walk out there. clear myself the winner i said what if i lose you to the wall be the biggest laughingstock in the history i said i'm not going out there yet and i'll never forget bill sitting there in his palm quiet manner because he looks and he goes just he said he trusted me on the students here as you guessed bill and that he said that trust me while you are the god of the question you do not know the status of i said bill just forty percent of the form he left open said they haven't been wrong fifty years because you got to go all the way back to do it right do you do with your whatever but that was exactly fifty years with most of the other the wrong good six years there's no governor left and i remember all of those huddling in the closet there to try to figure out what to do next in charity who's the unsung hero of this campaign was crying ashley because she did not want
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to be first lady might affect a future event like the bus first lady minnesota history it was just chaos at that point that i remember the other two state memory i was when i finally did walk out . volunteer cops site all of a sudden it was like twelve smokey bear hands over on me and circling me and moving everyone out of the way yeah it was like almost you got taken over you know you got taken off your life nor is it in your life it was a case of this election were where. we were loose knit. and just as i said if you if you saw behind the scenes when i made the statement the night we won we shot the world if you would have been behind the scenes you would have truly understood what that what that
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statement said that we shot the world because the. speak of the. title. quote. i shot.
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i had a great education a good job and a family that loved me. i never had to worry about how i would eat somewhere i would sleep. i'm facing christmas alone out on the streets of london. oh boy. you know too slow to still give up feed for the harvest. which you don't really feel like me you know. and then. the guy just came over to me so me and gave me this book.
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when our mind when the contents of our minds. changed. there are. of the level of the physiology that is at the level of the brain the brain as a form of plasticity can rewire itself and not just the brain but also the rest of the body responds. with.
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