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take a look at his time in office and the true changes that he implemented and the things he fought for in his battles with the political establishment and the mainstream media so take a journey with us as we celebrate the twentieth anniversary of governor jesse ventura. pretty. good looks like. it's going. to. be like i got hit with. what caused me to run for governor i kind of french myself to help us celebrate and remember the twentieth anniversary of the political campaign that shocked the world former governor jesse ventura was joined by several key figures in his campaign and
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administration campaign chairman dean barkley bill hillsman the campaign advertising guru and political strategist. running mate and thirty seven year schoolteacher made. and finally the communications director for the ministration. really was the one that got me interested in the third party movement because i've always been anti democrat and republican and in my neighborhood up there all of a sudden i started seeing nice barkley signs for congress or senate congress barkley barkley and i kind of thought who is this barkley what is this independence party at the time. and so i got involved very much i realized that the majority of the independents. were disgruntled democrats and republicans. and they want something new and. i felt that way also and so i supported the money right. the long story short for. minnesota they have the end of
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bill fourth of july parade and he asked me to walk in it so we're walking. down the crowds going crazy but they're going crazy for me because he's not a deity and i'll never forget leaning over to me and whispering there didn't have to whisper it was pretty loud he said see the wrong guys running. genesis that's the way all right you know it was my town it's all fairness. and i just. didn't. and that's the idea. that's worth the. great big budget surplus because the economy in the ninety's was super strong and because of the taxation rate in
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minnesota they took in billions of dollars more than they needed and they spent it and i was doing talk radio and i was just outraged over that how dare them that's the people's money it's not very just because they have an excess doesn't mean their kids in the candy store and so when they spent the money i got pretty vocal overt and i made a statement on the radio one day i said maybe i ought to run for governor you could sense the feeling out there that people were looking for something else and weren't getting it the center's never represented it's always the left on the right on the far wings and then the center is made to pick. it quote the lesser of the two evils i guess when you get a candidate that occupies the center the left and right then can make inroads and i move em plus i knew that we needed to get. voters who did normally vote so i figured there's about twenty four to twenty five percent that are already
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voted for an independent with well as is ok then what we have to do and you're right we had to expand the electorate says we can get to twenty five but how do we get to thirty five to thirty seven and i figured well the young voter doesn't vote for nothing if we can motivate that walk of voters to take it stands and show off we have a shot we did the first part of the campaign and that would lead sr well what you do is you do exactly you know to be on them that's just what it is you go to the people still unit you didn't like it's one of the officers might be slow degrees with the opening of will fly but then he can think of a governor can he oh another steam i'm sure what the other side though not also warning there are often times you know nothing but whether the campaign was love or be fair on the mayflower i gave before it but never as i am now drop dead off three
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lines the campaign manager was appalled to have yeah there's a bolt out of barak and i know he'd run cold tell me can't make this stuff up knowing that it was a complete. it was as grass roots as you could possibly as early as three four people you know the least there was you know i remember dean taking me to a debate i think was a twin cities public telephone right and we were sitting in a cafeteria or something watching this debate and that was one. i just decided you have to work for jesse because he was so different from middle in those debates so you know i mean you're widely known for your creative. talents and human beings put you were actually part of the strategy you know you were there really in the numbers yeah we really did we had really good voter targeting and grows and swell and the only thing people forget about this campaign it was really the first effective use of the internet yes you know you know political campaign. we didn't
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have a feel or it was the feel organization was people emailing other people but there were some pretty big indicators people forget the context of the entire race we were at the state fair the democrats for some reason that still eludes me invited everybody to their debates so jesse would show up other third party candidates and show up and every time i'd watch these debates. everybody would be nodding when jesse spoke so it's not hard to figure out if you're at a democratic primary or and there's five candidates in the democratic primary and this guy is the second choice of almost everybody there you start to go this is a very different dynamic than we've ever seen before if he's the second choice of all the democrats that's pretty good that's a awfully good starting place. when i initially read on there were multiple
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opponents because i was in the debates very early on before the primaries even came around but when it got down after the primaries it got down to the big two or if you include me three that was. home for you the democrat hubert humphrey son the former vice president's son and he was the current attorney general. maire norm coleman the mayor of st paul who they always saw i found it very interesting that that humphrey was always referred to by his political title of attorney general humphrey coleman was always referred to as mayor norm coleman and even though coleman had no more mayor than i did i was always former pro wrestler jesse ventura so i was the only candidate that had his private sector job put in front of his name where the public and i have been a mayor so should not i shouldn't be former mayor jesse ventura because we're
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talking politics here but that's the bias that i faced but in hindsight that was probably good but if they did name the other two his private sector jobs i don't want in a landslide because then it would have been former moyer skip pumphrey and former lawyer norm coleman. some of the substance of those debates was really surprised people and other things that happened in the debates has never happened i mean they would ask skip humphrey question and skip to his family disease of moderate you know so he starts talking immediately and you can see him trying to formulate an actual answer as he's talking so he uses up his entire two minutes they give the same question to norm call that he starts right away he's trying to make his points he gets cut off because he's going to go over they ask jesse a question he says yes. and they said. nobody knew what to do they say would you like to elaborate on it and he says u.s.
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me question i gave you an answer still nobody knew it to be nobody and i don't think you know history of politics and ever not used their entire two minutes to say something about a pretty bad guy or that now because i don't need them said yes. and then i'll never forget the moderator did have a sense of humor because i looked around when there was a struggle i said well i answered the question good night on the moderator he knew what yes the key to the show at that double song give you to the crowd good all that required was a yes or no right in another debate it was a friday night and the two other candidates are all dressed up. just he shows up he's in his football coaching outfit you know he's in like a sweatshirt and and innocence yeah i was almost lax yeah right there and that's just banks people relate to somebody like that you know it wasn't all
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show and then finally there was the third debate where you told that amazing story about the gay wrestler who's companion couldn't get in to see a meeting is dying of aids i mean i heard it sprung up all over the state when you said that was one of the most affecting things i've ever seen wallet how can they have a sign telling you do you love me you don't do shit by your bedside it's all right for you in the emergency and because again you're not allowed in their pursuit insanity you know and so they and i think that. the fact that i didn't you should know children. you know people music that that the answers they were getting were true and from the heart the truth was what if you were looking at. jesse ventura and the campaign from the outside as i was the. that's what started to resonate with me it was it was the truth and you would also often use examples
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of two time no just i gave you two things of the device for that means i said number one is tell the truth just don't want to think never to see if you don't know the answer minute yeah it's fine you can you know make it look real person you don't have it all there and you just permit your performance of the debate you know we want from what beginning at september he shares am going to push up to the mid twenty's and we had to spend one penny on advertising and that month i think we did a couple radio at that was that and that's the position actually when i looked it up just a day or two ago and just because it's fifteen percent on october fifteenth. and henitiuk thirty seven percent so actually literally a twenty point jump in three weeks to its fullest was.
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i had a great education a good job and a family that loved me. i never had to worry about how i would eat some where i would sleep. but i'm facing christmas alone out on the streets of london. but you look to be. on. the lorry like you are. you know to somebody who still give out food for the homeless. for. which you don't really feel like me being in that. and then. i go i just came over to me saw me in a military jet this book. when
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early on in the campaign ino we did that we we did look at you know some of the results of how things were progressing the monks the groups. may actually my testosterone level is that an extremely high and sold the chances of me becoming you know i needed to be softened by felt i felt strongly that i'm unsold boldin i'm sold the ranch. but back to defend a lot of people i actually was polish in my kitchen cabinets and i get this call and they said my name is this and i am on a committee for justified tour as
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a candidate for governor and i said. and they said we're wondering we would like to ask you to be his running mate i said no i'm a teacher i'm not a politician i knew that he wanted somebody who had a background in education because of this what the experience with education did in the schools and such i thought well you nor i do not have i think i had about thirty years under my belt at the ready of being a teacher and i knew the schools from the children point the parents point from the administrators and there were a lot of things that i thought need fixing so as i met with my family they said well you're near retirement you are always talking about how to improve education and maybe this is your opportunity so i thought about that so the next day i got a call from jesse asking me if i would be interested in being this. running mate as
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lieutenant governor and i said yes i will. sell albums from that point i was so excited because i could talk about education you were crucial to the success of this act i mean there's no way i don't think that just once with a few on the ticket because you can get a certain sense of gravity to us you know and education is so important to voters and to this day i don't know if people would remember your name but they know they're just going to run with it teach our city and me aside from sean and we're discussing him he said we should do a victory term road to victory tour houses. first time it came off ploy you know what second until our and i go all over the state of minnesota in forty eight hours or three days i've already lost when our vienna leaders all are here. and now
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we're going to shop there are slow at cern to do the film as a was there and he says well we should use the internet and do some live shots on the stuff and fan of build some momentum so i know i said then i says ok stop doing everything else and let's break this i'm after that was another thing that nobody had ever done before i mean people have gone bust worse and stuff like that before but the whole rationale behind it was this is the next navy seal campaign is committed will be campaigning when they're sleeping ten miles of people on the road and then there's like thirty cars behind us we have flags with balloons with all this follow us and then as laid leave others would replace them so we're going gaining people everywhere who go to rubble status wasn't exactly a well oiled machine so we would be running sometimes two three hours behind and we were going all night so you'd show up three hours late at two o'clock in the
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morning to someplace somewhere yeah that value and there was still a tremendous number of people there a new sunday night these people got to work monday morning these are farmers friends or people that they waited there for two hours for us to arrive and we kimo and it was unbelievable i mean people hanging at midnight in willmar minnesota paying off the building and of course the other two immediately imitated so this skit poetry goes out and gets a bus and he can't get anybody on the bus or to show up so they end up paying people to be on his bus carrying a crowd gets old and norm coleman has a bus that looks like something out of the music man i mean the. the whole thing they must spend way more money than we spent on the entire campaign on this bus because the bus would roll and they'd roll out the stuff that be like a stage and all the sound stuff on the get up to the song and dance everything gets
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rolled up back in the bus off to the next stop we've done a lot of races and i have never seen people work as hard on a campaign as your people did and they were almost all volunteers all staff and everybody was almost dead at the end of that bus trip but they saw it through and it was an amazing success in fact i oddball bread. we hired be old yes confusion agent that's the job but everybody else on my campaign the only person that got paid was doug fried line and that's because he believed his job full time and take over you know the campaign for the party so we paid doug the equivalent of what he made to. a poll tax this is truly a people's campaign i don't think we've seen anything like it before since the democrats other parties talk about their get out the vote program all are volunteers all this organization they have this was a situation where the people in minnesota organize themselves we were driving there to canterbury that night early evening there was
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a strange. circled around the mood in the sky that night the truly was because i remember my son and my wife and i all looked out at me and my son was in the backseat and dad something or something strange is going to happen to me he said that to me on the way in and so we went out there with that expectation but when i truly realized. it i always believed i could win but believing in actuality are two different things but what got me that night was when word came in that the lines to register were longer than the line still felt that to me that's the key you know we have same day registration in minnesota and i thought that's the key these people are not coming up to vote for the status school they're not waiting in line to vote for skip or mormon they wait in line because
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it's their first time and i'll just state this i can tell you that since then. how many young people have come up to me and it just makes me feel so good to tell me always you know you were the first person i ever felt that for and that to me is the reward. more than anything of ever being the governor was the fact that we had that type of impact on the people he told us to pull. up that morning at little public over. the university of minnesota lions around the clock for all people like string to revolve around the likes of that first time as a manic out. as was the missing piece that i didn't know the whole time where they're going to show off i've never seen before or since the initial returns came in with you had thirty seven percent and you never moved i've never seen anything
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like this yes all night it was thirty seven percent and almost cry. and he made a little bit of a movie at one point and i thought well that's the end of it now call annoyance but it never happened he will never get that there were center stage because when the first fairy returns came in the very first it was right in the order they call me the second returns came in and turn the goldman up to second and i think it was at five percent to seven percent was when i took the lead was at about this they had a three percent to five but a seven that they came in with initially and i went from why i asked the second the first that was the real amazing thing is that it was kept in roger moen that put me in the debates fifty nine times and take the public and conservative votes with a fishpole conservative and it was the opposite come true at the time was polling like forty six percent. thirty thirty june where he was all the time and i was looking at it it was completely went to forty eight one hundred thirty seven
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sleepers enormous always within the margin of there never went up never went down although ever forget the fact that in the bill and i had already gone out once to the crowd and they were demanding i go out again and i said no i'm not door no joke the election results or i'm not borne out they're just appalled they're you know i'm in the election's over i'll never forget bill is right here to my right side wins on the t.v. set the flu shot mark came back this tour is being declared the week i don't remember which you think should be c. c.b.s. or a.b.c. i don't know who read the first poll but then all of a sudden he goes the other two came right along the border and here's what got to there was only the sixty percent of the whole deal. and they were declaring me the winner. everyone wanted me to go out there and i said i'm not going out there i should go in there's only sixty percent of the vote column that i said you want me
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to walk out there and declare myself. the winner i said what if i do moves in a while i'll be the biggest laughingstock in the history he i said i'm not going out there yet and i'll never forget bill sitting there in his palm quiet manner and he goes he looks at me go see jesse he said he trusted me on the students here as you guessed bill and the he said that trust me while you are the good of it i should get you a memo this covers it i said bill just forty percent of the form left how can you say they haven't been wrong. because you've got to go all the way back to do it right do you know what you're whatever but that was exactly fifty years mostly out of the wrong six years there's no help at all and i remember all of those huddling in the closet there to try to figure out what to do next in charity who's the unsung hero of this campaign was crying ashleigh because she did not want to be
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first lady might attract a future event like the bus first lady minnesota history it was just chaos at that point that i remember the other two state memory i was when i finally did walk out all those volunteer cops site all of a sudden it was like twelve smokey bear hands over on me and circling me and moved in everyone out of the way yeah it was like almost you got taken over you know you got taken off your life was no longer nor is it more like it was a case of this election were where. we were loose knit. and just as i said if you if you saw behind the scenes when i made the statement the night we won we shocked the world if you would have been behind the scenes you would have truly understood what that what that
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statement said that we shot the world because it all. you know. people tell each people no money. to speak up i mean the dems and republicans got what twelve million followers if i will but the left the pub on the. other fifty thousand here you know but he proved to me. that that money doesn't always mean. the sold out. when cash is quite good beach sonny liston that night and won the world heavyweight title i always remember his famous quote we shocked the world and that's how i felt that night i felt like mohamed felt i shocked the world that night nobody gave us a chance but we did it. where
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