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look at his time in office and the true changes that he implemented and the things he fought for in his battles with the political establishment and the mainstream media so take a journey with us as we celebrate the twentieth anniversary of governor jesse ventura. putting. it looks like. it's going. to. be like you know i got. what cause me to run for governor i kind of french myself to help us celebrate and remember the twentieth anniversary of the political campaign that shocked the world former governor jesse ventura was joined by several key figures in his campaign and administration campaign chairman dean barkley bill hillsman the campaign
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advertising guru and political strategist. running mate. school teacher made. and finally the communications director for the ministration. really was the one that got me interested in the third party movement because i've always been anti democrat and republican and in my neighborhood up there all of a sudden i started seeing nice barkley signs for congress or senate congress barkley barkley and i kind of thought who is this barkley what is this independence party at the time. and so i got involved there and i met i realized that the majority of the independents. were describing some republicans. and they want something new and. i felt that way also in supporting the money.
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long story short. dean is from minnesota and they have the fourth of july parade and he asked me to walk in it so we're walking through. the crowds going crazy but they're going crazy for me not a deal and i'll never forget leaning over to me and whispering they didn't have to whisper pretty loud he said see the wrong guys running. that's the way all right you know it was my town it's only fair. and i just. bought and that's the idea. that's worth a. great big budget surplus because the economy in the ninety's was super strong and because of the taxation rate in minnesota they took in billions of dollars more
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than they needed and they spent it and i was doing talk radio and i was just outraged over that how dare them that's the people's money it's not very. their kids in the candy store and so when they spent the money i got pretty vocal overt and i made a statement on the radio one day i said maybe i ought to run for governor you could sense the feeling out there that people were looking for something else and weren't getting it the center's never represented it's always the left on the right on the far wings and the center is made to pick. quote the lesser of the two evils i guess when you get a candidate that occupies the center the left and right them can make inroads and i knew. that we needed to get. voters normally vote so i figured there's about twenty five. or twenty five percent that are
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already voted for an independent with well as is ok then what we have to do and you're right we had to expand the electorate says we can get to twenty five but how do we get to thirty five to thirty seven and i figured well but the young voter doesn't vote for nothing if we can motivate that walking voters to take it stands and i'll show off we have a shot we did the first part of the campaign and that would lead sr well what you do is you do exactly you know to be on them and you just want to do you go to the people still unit head like it's one of the officers might be to slog through the opening of will fly but then he can think of a governor can he oh understand i am pictured with the other side you know alan i'm also going there now russia at the time so i think it was know the campaign was letting her be there on limited power i gave before it but never as i dropped off
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three lines the campaign manager was appalled to have you know there's a bolt out barak and i know he'd run cold we can't make this stuff up knowing that it was a complete. it was as grass roots as you could possibly use as the street for people now doing things that was young i remember being taking me to a debate i think was a twin cities public telephone rang and we were sitting in a cafeteria or something watching this debate and that was one and. i just decided you have to work for jesse because he was so different from middle in those debates so you know i mean you're widely known for your creative. talents and campaigns but you were actually part of the strategy in you were there really in the numbers yeah we really did we had really good folder targeting gross it's well if you think people forget about this campaign it was really the first effective use of the internet yes you know. in a political campaign. we didn't have
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a feel or it is that the feeling is aisha's people e-mailing other people but there are some pretty big indicators people forget the context of the entire race we were at the state fair the democrats for some reason that still eludes me invited everybody to their debates so jesse would show up other third party cancelled show up and every time i'd watch these debates go on. everybody would be nodding when jesse spoke so it's not hard to figure out if you're at a democratic primary that and there's five candidates in the democratic primary and this guy is the second choice of almost everybody there you start to go through this is a very different dynamic than we've ever seen before if he's the second choice of all the democrats that's pretty good that's an awfully good starting place when i initially rare on there were multiple opponents because i was in the debates very
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early on before the primaries even came around but when it got down after the primaries it got down to the big true or if you include me three and that was. free of the democrat hubert humphrey's son the former vice president's son and he was the current attorney general. mayor norm coleman the mayor of st paul who they always saw i found it very interesting that they had humphrey was always referred to by his political title of attorney general humphrey coleman was always referred to as mayor norm coleman and even though coleman had no more mayor than i did i was always former pro wrestler jesse ventura so i was the only candidate that had his private sector job put in front of his name where the public and i have been a mayor so should knight shouldn't be former mayor jesse ventura be. because we're
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talking politics here but that's the bias that i faced but in hindsight that was probably good but if they did name the other two his private sector jobs i don't want to know why i am slide because then it would have been four more years spear pomfrey and former lawyer norm coleman or some of the substance of those debates was really surprised people and all the things that happened in the debates had never happened i mean they would ask skip humphrey question and skip to this family . monitor you saw he starts talking immediately and you can see him trying to formulate an actual answer as he's talking so he uses up his entire two minutes they give the same question to norm coleman he starts talking right away he's trying to make his points he gets cut off because he's going to go over they ask just a question he says yes. and they say nobody knew what to do they say would you like to elaborate on it and he says you ask me
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a question i gave you an answer still nobody knew it to be nobody and i don't think you know history of politics or ever not use their entire two minutes to say something about a pretty bad guy remember that now because i don't need them and said yes. and then i'll never forget the moderator did have a sense of humor because i looked around when there was a struggle i said well i answered the question did night on the moderator of the new web yes or no defeated news show at that double song give you into the crowd good and all that required was a yes or no right in another debate it was a friday night and the two other candidates are all dressed up. just he shows up he's in his football coaching outfit you know he's in like a sweatshirt in and innocence yeah i was almost lax yeah right there and then just banks people relate to. somebody like that you know was an all show
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and then finally there was the third debate where you told that amazing story about a gay wrestler whose companion couldn't get in the city and learning is dying of aids i mean i heard it sprung up all over the state when you said that that was one of the most affecting things i've ever seen wallet how can they have a sign telling you who you love and who you don't get to sit by your bedside it's all right for you in the emergency and because you again you're not allowed in there to soothe and same of the you know and so they and i think that. the fact that i didn't you should know children often. you know people knew that that that the answers they were getting were true and from the heart the truth was what if you were looking at. jesse ventura and in the campaign from the outside as i was that's what started to resonate with me it was it was the truth and you would also
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often use examples of truth telling no just i gave you two things of a vice for debates i said number one is tell the truth just don't want to think never do since you don't know the answer minute yeah it's fine it'll make you look a real person you don't have it all there and just personally know your performance in the beach you know we want from what beginning of september terry shares a i'm going to push up to the mid twenty's and we have to spend one penny on advertising and that mock i think we did a couple radio at that was that and that's the position actually when i looked it up just a day or two ago and just because it's fifteen percent october fifteenth thanks finished thirty seven percent so a two in literally a twenty point jump in three weeks to it's finished.
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welcome to unique edition of crosstalk we answer questions from you the viewers some of you sentiment very interesting question. my seven years doing drugs my nephews was still in drugs my sister just with doing drugs it was like an epidemic of drug abuse america's public enemy number one in the united states is drug abuse started going after the users in a prison population. we started treating sick people people who are addicted to these drugs like criminals while i was on the hill. then the war on drugs.
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with number of people are in prison for. sins for minor minor offenders in the drug trade it's a lot watching your children grow up and miss you in wave and say by day as you're walking out of a business it's just it doesn't get easier. it's hard to imagine decades after the war a nazi don't tell was still active rich in the nineteen seventies crittle had as the chair of its board a man convicted of mass murder and slavery ash was a german company growing untold develops in the divide a drug that was promoted as completely safe even during pregnancy it turned out to have terrible side effects what has happened to my baby is anything paul you know she said is just cut short arms minix a little mind victims have to this day received no compensation they never
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apologized for the suffering that not only want the money i want the revenge. you know crazy things going up a lot of people you know. twitter rising and occasionally some. pops up was something really. early on in the campaign you know we did that we we did look at you know some of the results of how we're progressing the monks the groups. naturally my own level of revenue stream we'll i am sure the chances of me becoming ill i needed to be softened by felt i felt strongly that i'm unsure told them i'm sold
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the ranch that back to defend a lot of people i actually was polishing my kitchen cabinets that i get this call and they said my name is and i am on the committee for justice and tour as a candidate for governor and i said. and they said we're wondering we would like to ask you to be his running mate i said no i have a teacher i'm not a politician i knew that he wanted somebody who had a background in education because of this what the experience with education did in the schools and such i thought well you know i do not have i think i had about thirty years under my belt already of being a teacher and i knew the schools from the children's point the parents point from the administrators and there were a lot of things that i thought need fixing so as i met with my family they said
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well you're near retirement you are always talking about how to improve education and maybe this is your opportunity so i thought about that so the next day i got a call from chelsea asking me if i would be interested in. the. running mate as lieutenant governor said yes. so i'm up from that point on i was so excited because i could talk about education you were crucial to the success of this act i mean there's no way i don't think that jesse was with and with you on the ticket because you can get a certain sense of gravity to us you know and education is so important to voters and to this day i don't know if people won't remember your name but they know they just enter in with a teacher are sending me aside conference room and we're discussing in these that we should do a victory tour road to victory tour now is the first time we came up loyola you
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know what second until our and i go all over the state of minnesota in forty eight hours or three days i feel your loss when our vienna leaders all are here. and now we're going to shop there are slow that's a current idea of the film as a was and he says well we should use the internet and do some live shots out of the stuff and fan of build some momentum so i know i said then i says ok stop doing everything else and let's break this cycle after that was another thing that nobody had ever done before i mean people have done bus tours and stuff like that before but the whole rationale behind it was this is the next navy seal our campaign is committed we'll be campaigning when they're sleeping ten miles out of the people on the road and on and there's like thirty cars behind it was one of those with balloons with polish following notion and then as laid leave others would replace
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them so we're going gaining people everywhere who go to rome and stay this wasn't exactly a well oiled machine so we would be running sometimes two three hours behind and we were going all night so you'd show up three hours late at two. you know morning to someplace or yeah that route and there is still a tremendous number of people there a new sunday night these people got to work monday morning these are farmers regular people but they waited there for two hours for us to arrive and we come out and it was unbelievable i mean people hanging out midnight in willmar minnesota hain office building and of course the other two immediately imitated so this skit poetry goes out and gets a bus and he can't get anybody on the bus or to show up so they end up paying people to be on his bus carrying a crowd gets old and norm coleman has
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a bus that looks like something out of the music man i mean the whole thing they must spend way more money than we spent in the entire campaign on this bus because the bus would roll and they'd roll out the stuff that be like a stage and all the sound stuff on the get up to the song and dance everything gets rolled up back in the bus off to the next stop we've done a lot of races and i have never seen people work as hard on a campaign as your people did and they were almost all volunteers all staff and everybody was almost dead at the end of that bus trip but they saw it through and it was an amazing success in fact i. did we how you would be oh yes confusion agent that she job but everybody else on my campaign the only person that got paid was doug fried line and that's because he had to leave his job full time and take over you know the campaign for the party so we paid doug the equivalent of what he made . this is truly a people's campaign i don't think we've seen anything like it before or since the
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democrats other parties talk about their get out the vote program all are volunteers all this organization they have this was a situation where the people in minnesota organize themselves we were driving there to canterbury that night early evening there was a shock. range. circled around the mood in the sky that night the truly was because i remember my son and my wife and i all looked out at me and my son was in the backseat and dad something or something strange is going to happen he said to me on the way. in and so we went out there was that expectation but when i truly realized. it i always believed i could win but believing in actuality are two different things but what got me that night was when word came in that the lines to register were no longer the line still felt. that to me was the
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key you know we have same day registration in minnesota and i thought that's the key these people are not coming up to vote for the status school they're not waiting in line to vote for skip or mormon they wait in line because it's their first time and i'll just state this i can't tell you. how many young people have come up to me there and it just makes me feel so good to tell me always you know you were the first person i ever filled in for and that to me. more than anything of ever being the governor was the fact that we have got type of impact on the people he told us more on profitable received. that morning a little political reporter asked the university of minnesota lions around the clock for all people registering to vote on election day that's the first time it's
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made it go out. as that was the missing piece that i didn't know the whole time where they're going to show off i've never seen before or since the initial returns came in with you had thirty seven percent can you never move i've never seen anything like this yes all night it was thirty. seven percent and coleman was trailing and he made a little bit of a movie at one point and i thought well that's the end of it now called annoyance but it never happened he will never get that there were center stage because when the first ferry returns came in the very first it was right in the order they call me the second returns came in. coleman the second and i think it was five percent to seven percent was when i took the lead was about to say that a three percent to five but a step that they came in with initially and i went from why i asked to step in to first that was the real amazing thing is that it was skip and roger moore on the court in the debates thinking i was going to take the public and conservative votes
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with a fishpole conservative and it was the opposite come true at the time was polling at forty six percent said you screwed you thirty two where he was all the time and i was that it was humphrey that went to twenty eight one hundred thirty seven sleepers enormous always within the margin of there never went up never went down although ever forget the fact that in the bill and i had already gone out once to the crowd and they were demanding i go out again and i said no one not door not job the election results are not borne out they're just appalled they're you know i'm in the election's over i'll never forget bill is right here to my right side when on the t.v. set the flu shot my kids back wrestling tour is being declared the winner i don't remember which you think should be c. c.b.s. or a.b.c. i don't know who gave the first call but then all of a sudden being told the other two came right along or. here's what dr there was
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only the sixty percent of the whole deal. and they were declaring me the winner. everyone wanted me to go out there and i said i'm not going out there i should go in there's only sixty percent of the vote column that i see. did you want me to walk out there and declare myself the winner i said what if i lose you to the wall be the biggest laughingstock in the history he i said i'm not going out there yet and i'll never forget bill sitting there in his calm quiet manner because he looks and he goes just he said he trusted me on the student sure most of us believe that he said that trust me while you are the good of the nation did you remember the steps that i said bill just forty percent of the form left said they haven't been wrong. because you got to go all the way back to do it right do you do with your whatever but that was exactly fifty years mostly out of the wrong six years there's
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governor alive and i remember all of this huddling in the closet there to try to figure out what to do next in charity who's the unsung hero of this campaign was crying ashleigh that she did not want to be first lady high the fact that she turned then like the best first lady minnesota history it was a scary ossett that point that i remember the other distinct memory i have was when i finally did walk on a. volunteer cops site all of a sudden it was like twelve smokey bear hands over on me and circling me and moving everyone out of the way yeah it was like almost you got taken over you know you got taken off your life was no longer your hitting your it's like it was a case of in most elections were where. we were loose knit. and just and so soon if you if you saw behind the
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scenes when i made the statement the night we won we shot the world if you would have been behind the scenes you would have truly understood what that what that statement said before we shot. world because in all you know we got great people young people we have no money. heard speak up i mean the dems and repub said elections go what twelve million to five what the left later was wrong but combined of twelve million and we're down to three hundred fifty thousand you know but he proved to me remove my hope that that money doesn't always mean the american dream . when cash or scrape did beat sonny liston that night and won the world heavyweight title i always remember his famous quote we shocked the world and that's how i felt that night i felt like
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mohamed felt i shocked the world that night nobody gave us a chance but we did it. when our mind when the content of our minds. changed there are. some of the level of the physiology that is at the level of the brain the brain as a form of plasticity can rewire itself and not just the brain but also the rest of the body respond to that. kind of financial survival job about money laundering first to visit this campus
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into three different. good is a good start well we have our three banks all set up here maybe something in your something in america something overseas it became an island to do all these banks are complicit in their tough talk or sued us up to say hey i'm ready to do some serious wounds or. ok let's see how we did while we got a nice watch for max and. jewelry. for you know what money is highly. watched kaiser of course. i had a great education a good job and a family that loved me. i never had to worry about how i would eat somewhere i would speak. i'm facing christmas alone out on the streets of london. well you looked. up. all the glory like you only. you know the sunlight it will still
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