tv Cross Talk RT December 31, 2018 7:30am-8:01am EST
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talking the new year i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark slow to he's an international affairs and security analyst and we also have to be he's a political analyst with sputnik international our gentlemen cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it we have a number of other guests on the program here but i want to go to you first mark here a lot is is in the brew right now a lot of stories bleeding from two thousand eight hundred into two thousand and nine what's the most important story you're going to watch even more from two thousand and seventeen into two thousand and eighteen we were concerned about four main stories going into the year the conflicts in syria and ukraine geo politically the political witch hunt inquisition against trump in the united states and the political crisis in the e.u. with bragg's it and you know all their political crises against you know the government in brussels across the board and going into two thousand and nineteen
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those are the four big issues again none of them are resolved in every one of them actually looks to be worse going into the new year or the other two things i would highlight the new coming trends. the threat of the new arms race the emergence of you know what military people are calling hypersonic war whether we're talking hypersonic weapons the art of a zation of the battlefield with a gun on top of us killing vehicles and so on and the other big story i would think to keep track of is the fragmentation and nationalization or blockages ation of the internet the golden age of the internet is over and we're going to see a warring internet always always great to hear your often is a marker. but margaret just numerate the most important subject so i will concentrate on one. that for me was pivotal you know how far can the so-called
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liberals goal in seeing to all be as breaches of human rights to all various cases of extreme nationalism and then here i have a few examples of the first one is their unwavering support of the european union for poroshenko the regime this year despite the fact that poroshenko just everything that was against the principles of freedom he nearly shot down that traditional ukrainian orthodox church replacing it by a new one with the state's involvement he has started a campaign to uncover state officials in ukraine who have relatives in russia this is the warst feature of started using you know when relatives abroad was a risk factor than in the united states how the democrats the new hall they all wanted to put. in jail and keep their smaller sports simple simpler for ports to call for dollars on the internet with members of the national rifle association so
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how far can these presumably liberal you know you know in accepting an agreement in the left never knows when it's gone too far he let i want to bring in john john laughlin in paris john is a good friend in the long standing guest on cross talk you you've heard a lot of optimistic words from a demon mark here and i think you're going to continue the trend john what's the what's the state of the e.u. going into two thousand and nineteen we still have the yellow vest in france and briggs it isn't is looming. but i very much agree with what dmitri has just said how far can the liberals go because for years now i've been saying that the european union and its member states are in a drift towards totalitarianism and the permitted margin of debate is narrow in every day particular of course where nothing to do with russia is concerned but you know when people asked me about the. future of the european union i'm reminded
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peter as perhaps you are from your your student days as a political scientist at the debate that took place between the right wing and left wing americans on whether or not the soviet system could be reformed and the right wingers said that it couldn't and the lead democrats a left wing it said that latin american dictatorships who america supported by contrast could reform and that analysis turned out to be correct the right wingers were right to say that the dictatorships could reform but that the soviet system could not and i think the same analysis applies to the european union you asked me no question about the the yellow vests movement back home was the last great hope for reform in the european union and he's blown it this is one of the biggest social movements in france for many years and he has clearly shown himself not surprisingly to be incapable of reforming like the front of the european union and the reason why the european union can't be formed is exactly the same reason
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why the soviet union couldn't be reformed both the european union and the soviet union are trapped inside an ideological minor set which makes them intellectually incapable of reforming and that mindset is of course post nationalism globalism and so on and michael is the greatest example of this he thought that with that force of his personality and his good looks and whatever he could change things but since he never wanted to change the most important things namely the european policy the euro and so on yet his country and the rest of the european union just like the soviet union will remain mired in decline for as long as it takes to break up ok mark let me go to you how do you react to went to john laughlin had to say yeah i don't see that mccrone was ever intended as a voice for reform i think he was more intended as a last desperate hope of the technocrats and brothels to buttress. the
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status quo to prevent a radical reform is such as that as the lumpen from gaining power with the collapse of the socialist party due to the unpopularity of a large. mccraw in the literal ross trial banks there was brought up as the last desperate hope and he has failed utterly and we will see the results of the national front end the far left in france only going we'll see we've seen mccrone fail john laughlin let me go back to you. does that mean on the other side of the equation that we will see some kind of success of the yellow vests. not necessarily i mean the problem with the yellow vests is of course that it's a disparate movement and it doesn't have a structured leadership and i'm strongly of the view that political movements only succeed when they have very tight and very professional organizational structures.
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of s. is just one of a large number of of cries of anger and frustration all of which have. come about repeatedly in recent french history when i say recent i'm referring particularly to the last twenty years to the period in which the euro was introduced and one of the reasons why i think the yellow vests unfortunately might fizzle out is that the indoctrination about europe has been so strong that they haven't as far as i am aware managed to focus attention on the real cause of their decline in living standards which of course is the single currency the single currency has proved to be completely murderous for the economies. of the for the peripheral common economies of europe in other words for all the economies that are not part of germany austria or the netherlands you know for twenty years italy for example has had zero percent growth you can't country that way and so because they're not focusing on. essential i fear that they might fizzle
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out you know but at the same time i agree with john laughlin there but at the same time the establishment the status quo we've seen it's vulnerabilities here and john's right. or not organized. if they do get organized would be be interested in what kind of ideology that they would be pitching ok because this is exactly what the liberals want they want to some kind of artificial opposition are they going to get it well i think it will be unwise for their yellow vests right now to come up with a certain ideology i think. it will it will need a lot of work to form some kind of at the alternative ideology i think. if he decides not to imitate the west but rather to lead the way may help you know and develop these kind of ideology but since i don't want it to be all doom and gloom there was. a i would go in year you know president also that was
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invited to a segment meeting of the arab league by none other than the tunisian president and the tunisian president could not do it without the approval from the european union and most likely also from the united states so for the first time and that damned regime change crashed i can great you all congratulate you on this i think it's an important event of the year ok i mean the finish off of this block here with john laughlin john any other how is the how is it hard brags that affects the european union the. european union what we had about one minute left go ahead. well like dimitri i'm optimistic i think that next week is the excellent news it's very bad news for the european union if there's no deal it means there will be a gaping hole in the european union's budget immediately and even if there is a deal the uncertainty will continue until such time as britain stops paying its
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budget contributions and when it does then either the german taxpayer has to cough up more all the polish subsidy receiver has to receive yes it has received less i think breaks it will go ahead whether it's hard or soft ultimately doesn't make a difference to the to the eventual outcome which i repeat is that the european union will follow the fate of the soviet union britain is bigger than the baltic states but it's the same principle ok here i don't have john's optimist i'm about bricks ok but one thing john laughlin is writing it we have him play as usual if this is the subtext of this program the law of unintended consequences these fools in power do not understand what they're doing here all right gentlemen i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion especially on some real news stayed with.
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analysis so it's seemed wrong. but all roles just don't call. me world yet to see how does that become active. and in detroit because the trail. went on to find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. nobody could see coming that false confessions would that profile in this way shape or form which. had any interrogations out there what you'll see is promise threat
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promise threat lie a lie a lie the process of interrogation is designed to put people in just that frame of mind make the most comfortable make them want to get out and don't take no for an answer don't accept their denials she said their forwards porfiry said i stayed there i would be calm about it the next day there's a culture on accountability and police officers know that they can engage in misconduct that has nothing to do with all the crowd. welcome back to cross talk we're all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real names. ok now i have the pleasure to bring in example. paris he's the founder of the center of political strategic analysis poll around exam v.a.
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and it's talk about foreign policy in the new year we have trump deciding to pull out of syria as we speak lowering the troop numbers in afghanistan how is the european union looking at this because they have been followers but since trump has been in power they have obviously had a negative view of him is this the beginning of something here and what is the chance and what are the chances of the e.u. getting better relations with russia once britain the u.k. is out of the european union go ahead. so there is a note who or which was believed from the french secret service recommending to the president whom to try to be your. more realistic and to organize the fight against terrorism we sent you around and we syria and wesen with russia so maybe there is a chance but i'm going to be concerned because. there is some people or some
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fanatics we want to continue to supposed to cure us but what we can do. with all of the u.s. forces it's impossible to get we can't do anything it's over and you know i'm afraid because a lot of you know we know minister for enough french for for he was a minister of defense during. the french like russian against syria and i'm afraid it's a. mix of best and our best one of her arms is on this question of do you want to go to dnd because of the socialist government can't accept. after all the money of the time or of the sword use or the terrorist the help during the last the last of five years and it worked how does it change the equation here because. it's completely destabilizes things right now it's a good thing that the u.s. is is withdrawing its i.q. patient forces but the vacuum that that creates there was never going to be
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a good outcome of that it was in order for it to resolve it's going to have to play through you've got a cross on leaving at least a thousand french forces in east syria and the u.k. has an undisclosed number that it's probably about the same and they are going to be trapped in the middle of such a complicated conflict kurds versus sunni tribes an insurgency against each other rather than survive this turkish and their jihadi proxies moving in to target the kurds the syrian army russia iran and hezbollah are racing in to help syria retake back its country the u.s. probably doing stay behind. with special forces an air strikes and these poor french and british troops are going to be like human trip wires trapped in the middle of this i think we can forget the israelis of course which just attacked
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syria again on christmas on christmas so they're going to be trapped in the middle of all of this they're going to start looking like swiss cheese and it's interesting because more reason to say hey i don't for a moment even while i think that what i just told us basically a show with. all the idea that the state is bad then the u.n. is somehow on to bad influence and that's why it's misbehaving this view is completely correct you know always you miss ideological than the want to. determine type of state because look what's going on trump and. at last you know something along the lines of he is in a complaint he's put it out of syria who are the first to be enraged the europeans you know immediately the french minister said we are live in the you know this country poor country to its own devices the driven minister was enraged that these
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specific so you don't think the united states in the european union have given enough help to the syrian people i think they were all these years they have given so much hope that they will have to apologize until their third millenium i think what they did to specially the french with their colonial history in c.v.a. deverall so basically i want to go i want to go back to the. i asked you my original question what are the prospects of better relations between the european union in russian this year. you know i'm quite because if you look at what happened in germany because actually in your opinion germany is the most you both i'm going to really. doesn't want to change is being your she's just. except through into it because it's not choice for the german industry but if you look up to. you in germany she's worse than
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a. two point zero zero two point zero again yes and if you're getting friends which is a. european union i don't see any sign of wanting to do some seeing a more effective anyway the question is whether we. sanction which doesn't work actually it works for russia but it works against us ok and saud to the point is when we would go out from the same sions and i don't see any positive signs. from germany and france that's. able to do decide to go out and sanction ok take exactly a page you very much for joining us and happy and have a very happy new year thank you are you going to what are the prospects here i mean is it going to be more of the same here because we know that the same sions in the united states it's a congressional decision here but the europeans it's on a rolling six month basis here do you think that with the change of late with the
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u.k. leaving the you a new leadership in germany anything is going to change or is there going to be still the pressure from washington there is going to be pressure from washington it may not be coming from the president's office but we know that the president doesn't have complete control of the deep state foreign policy and so on he may be trying to regain control of some aspects of it but i think the you has their own neo con ideologues exceptional us at this point and they will continue the war against russia in all spheres economic military and so on regardless of trump. and. you know we have to expect that the political crisis in the us with the number of. grand jury indictment this is exactly where i want to go here i want to bring in alexandra
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christopher he's an app and he's the director and writer for the duran dot com alex marc was just talking about. the investigation's going started in two thousand and seventeen eighteen now we're going to two thousand and nineteen the motor report what's it going to say what's your gut tell you. it's going to say nothing. nothing about police nothing about truck gross or collusion that's for sure it's not good and i think that pretty much been accepted and they're now trying to move the narrative towards a different direction so i think the moeller desiccation is going to be one giant dud but i think the media peter i think you know by now that the media are still invested in this narrative that they'll find a way to connect trump somehow to wiki leaks wiki leaks to russia and somehow see that there was some kind of funny business going on and kind of legitimize. their twenty's i look at this french back in his board. you know the him it's really
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interesting is that he mentioned previously the crisis of journalism when you know these lou carvings and we have this is german. right and still there's no self reflection by these people whatsoever you know they're always the exception but my sense is they're more the rule they just got caught or why or why should they have so reflection if the new york times i guess has just walked puts a price for its russian medlin investigation so what investigating something that was as nonexistent that's the children described by remote you know poor children born by you know when their parents send and even into a gate seen on the american in their dreams according to his report so basically what we see with our commission is this situation when people are basically forced to testify against themselves that was the case with what you know that was thinking with fleeing basically that was the case with them under ford and the
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technology is very simple kate we accuse you or could you know with russia they had me bring you into this situation or when you will face fifteen years in prison you know usually accuse them of any of that nor is no accusation the aleutian will testify against yourself. that you. where involved in corrupt dealings with the ukrainian government or them to you. to ask illegal foreign agents or that you did not inform the vice president of the united states had talked to a russian investor that with fleet so people are basically forced to testify against themselves because they'll turn you know if you go into jail for fifteen you go back to alexander alex saying and in athens you know i think it's well accepted here that obviously democrats and liberals hate that but the president there are plenty of never trump person the republican party in of course almost to
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the person in the media bar a few individuals on fox they all hate donald trump so why doesn't trump after the report comes out after these indictments come out that trump his turns around and pardons them all what does he have to loose but i think whatever move trump makes whether the pardon said whether he does it they're just going to come down on him hard whether it's the republicans the rhinos whether it's the democrats and most importantly it's higher mainstream media establishment like you said peter barr bar one or two people on fox everyone is against any decision he makes they're going to come down hard the one thing that we learned peter in all of this is that a deep state does indeed exist yet we're learning that the russians spent four thousand seven hundred dollars in google ads which supposedly overthrew the entire us democracy while a tyrant of a crisis don't i would correct out there russians not necessarily the all russians but as you said ok wrecked russians russians a troll a troll form
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a troll factory in st petersburg which nobody says what to do talk to the marketing we're not talking about the wanted out of a bad. car accident i'm very very sure about all the over the world and also what in macedonia that was that's doing some stuff i just we also learned that the f.b.i. had it in for a try. before he got elected and after he got elected and we also learned most importantly the biggest coverup of them all peter is that hillary clinton did rig the primaries against thirty centers that something no one today say i'm going to jump in here if anyone of you guys ever run for president make sure you have the macedonia ends on your side yes they can make that difference here that are as you know that's all the while we have you many thanks to my guests here in moscow in france and in greece and thanks to our viewers for watching us here to see you next time remember.
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i don't think the numbers mean something they matter the us of the one trillion dollars in debt more than ten of our fine empty each if eighty five percent of global wealth you want to the ultra rich eight point six percent market saw thirty percent rise last year some with four hundred to five hundred freight per second per second and it going rose to twenty thousand dollars. china is building a two point one billion dollar a i industrial but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only number you need remember in one one show you can't afford to miss the one and only boom but.
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it's hard to imagine that decades after the war a nazi domes that was still active and rich in a not in seventies parental had as the chair of its board a man convicted of mess murder and slavery at ashley's a german company grown until it develops in a divide a drug that was promoted as completely safe even during pregnancy. it turned out to have terrible side effects what has happened to my baby is anything but. yeah she said he's just got child arms many solidified victims i have to this day received no compensation they never apologized for the suffering that not only want the money i want the revenge.
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at least four people were killed and dozens of accounted for. following a gas explosion in the russian city of. britain and france had to step up joint patrols in the english channel after a spike in the number of illegal immigrants trying to get to the u.k. over the past two weeks. but the russian children who'd been held in an iraqi prison with that allegedly i still think parents are now back home when they return to russia. and the french newspaper apologizes off the people compare its latest from page to images from the nazi era.
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