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lord mayor so it's it's just amazing i kind of feel as if like i am just merely a reflection of sheffield at the moment and it's just i mean i generally do feel privileged and honored to hold this position but then with something that happened the past forty eight hours one of your many initiatives on mental health would have you been yes each month i choose a campaign to focus my attention kind of really saw campaign so july was the whole anti rally and advance him coming to the u.k. and august it was the opening of minus campaign for justice and then this moment for me kind of wants to kind of search on the topic of mental health especially as we lead as it was and well suicide prevention day on monday so i kind of thought well. how can i just country be a bit more and actually just get behind them is a way of sort of being happening so i kind of with the help of local charity the public health department or the council put together a u.k.
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suicide prevention charter because at the moment on average we have hundred fourteen people would go through to suicide completion each week and there's a lot that we can be doing as members so for me it was a case of putting these charts together and trying to get as much institutions to create an enhanced policy that they may already have when it comes to mental health and specifically suicide prevention because some might say that this position of the lord mayor altie has to be a political mental health arguably a political even prince harry in regular morkel royal family talking about that no one doubting of course that isn't an important issue but it's you know what it is. i mean a lego grievance of course well it's everything you do people keep talking about or . people would just rather me not write the bow or just play it safe and my father was a wasted opportunity like i'm blessed enough to hold this position and for me every single thing you do is political when i even became lord mayor i kept hearing stuff
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like oh we're all over this how we always do it we've always done it like this there man and like a lot of negative like how good is or you breaking tradition like you need to not do things so different i'm like well i completely like same we've always done that this is not an excuse like we used to have terrible tradition which we no longer do and you can form new traditions but more important i question everything i've been doing for about why are we doing it what's the benefit of it how can we change it to benefit the people should feel obvious there is a change in city is a vast. progressive change is sitting of course and if you look at how we have more in bags we've or if it's a one percent or a forty four and i percent remain but even then i generally believe it's a very. placement sheffield's is a place where we really don't compromise who we are it's a case of you know lovers or you like and some believe briggs is progress of course but yeah one in four may be in poverty in this city with
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a few miles from this office of the worst social indicators it's the brunt of a stare is he of the banking crash what's it like to represent as lord mayor city with the african issues yeah first of all it's a big responsibility to make sure to make sure that those voices who feel different there not be and had be represented i'm bringing to the forefront of almost we're right due to austerity and all the cuts that we've had it means a lot of vital services a heavily under pressure i'm sure in many cases across the country like sheffield but we really are pushing the north office in the brunt of that and is like. first it's always trying to come up with creative solutions to problems fair enough we have got the best start but we can't let that be an excuse for us not to provide services or try and come up with innovative ways to solutions you say so we just
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doing the best that we can going to but you would agree that we needed to pay off the losses by the banks made down south in the city of london and you know what it is but i personally feel of this like we as a country we're very we have got a lot of money and to be saying that we haven't got enough money for via services i just don't but i feel as if general is a political position where we can find a billion pound for the do you pay when we can find millions a pound to go to war and keep saying we haven't got enough money to do that. we're base also like as part of the coalition deal to keep tourism in schools but it's also for example like it's nice and well i look at me i'm lauren is an example stories like mine are very hard to come by because this is governments hostile environment policy so when we're having to refuse refugees than for example other country refused three thousand child refugees from syria because we said we didn't have enough money yet we can find more money to go to war to bomb say which is
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inevitably to cause more child refugees for us to say we haven't got enough money to take a man so i know for a long time just fail to believe them and say that we haven't got enough when i was all just a political agenda do you think we'll informs you there is your heritage similarly when it's famously said. is a place bomb under barack obama or it should be. central to the drone campaign in africa is useful in somalia look at what's happening in yemen and in syria it's just a case of like. we just like of course it is and we need to be treating people people are humans but i just feel as if. our foreign policy times is the best if i mean as an affair of the flight some time is completely cruel the blairites on the labor party and conservatives and some liberal democrats all say we must get involved in these wars to protect people erm yeah but i would completely say all of the other well look what happened in the whole situation in iraq how did that help us as
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a country when the whole point of bombing iraq was because weapons we all know was based on lies and look what's happening with libya or do not say it's a case of we'll we want to better the people of libya and support them look at the situation in libya as i'm still here to see us like. those as a country going to a country and actually bombing them and seeing the benefits of it. if you think opposite i'd love to hear what the benefits like what positive that actually buy in any example the moment we start treaty and people as numbers and targets i'm not sure humans fell for the problems where we should be trained people with compassion and i think that's where our times we kind of got it wrong but what was your thoughts about the government finally getting to grips maybe with the windrow scandal where africa will be in britain's will being deported almost as it's appears out of the country as for the way that dealt with it was complete shambles
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if i mean honestly fair enough they may be now trying to tackle a lot better. that's not to say a word with the amber alert or three of the most time the whole this is going on for a long time but recently came to light so it's nice to see things of advance on our boat by what it seems getting better but i feel as if i we've still got a long way to go in terms of how we tackle the i just general with the whole policy area to be honest i mean it's just i feel as if. yeah just going by so point i'm just saying we treat people with compassion these we're talking about people who've lived here when george said i've contributed to the country in so many different ways and i've been told they're no longer welcome in the u.k. that you wouldn't want vans going in your city not on telling people to shop their neighbors to denote asian which is of course opposed over the government another initiative you said that you backed with orgreave initially the government to be had to be backing an inquiry backing the independent police complaints commission
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for inquiry why do you think the government says there is no need for an inquiry into the battle of orgreave that took place in this office i can't speak for the government if i'll be honest about why i do understand is that we need a public inquiry to happen because there's still family suffering today and i don't know if you've seen the last hour of what such of it is just asking for the president of course home secretary and. i don't honestly so much admiration a commendation to the people august just his campaign who are courageously constantly actively campaigning on this issue and for me as lord mayor and something within chef and i think it's only my assumption i want to get behind and especially when people on is actually on when i actually got behind the campaign was first of all because it happened to be yorkshire day and i was also a very yorkshire based campaign as well you see the b.b.c. of apologise for reversing the riot footage lots of the newspapers are saying we knew that ok ten thousand miners were involved as the police we knew everything way
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why have an inquiry into this because if it's fair and just so we know the police were wrong in the situation we know there's a lot in justices so instead of saying argue well it's like fair enough we made a mistake but there's still ongoing sufferings and it's consequences to those evidence so we need to get to the bottom of this because otherwise that justice will always be that they'll never be a case where the people of all grief will feel different they've been treated in a fair and just way so it's something i always tell people just without the right side you job to do what you can to did he reply he did not reply some believe that it was supposed to be a lesson or grieve for every worker to obey their boss is a kind of the beginnings of a new liberalism when these workers were fighting for what they perceived as their rights the thing that sways in replying to you do you know what i am and there's
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hundreds in the hundreds of people wrote right so i don't think the reason of a prize because it is the one so i just come above it i can i don't know but as you say a case of he's just clearly not interested doesn't want to do anything about it but that's not a reason for myself about if you like i'll be lying if i said you know i want to write some i think is going to is going to agree to many because i'm going to of course i didn't expect that. but for me as well as writing for him it was more important like in the way of what swim for me was to bring awareness of the cause because that's why i can do so for if i can give an inquiry myself if i can highlight the issue using my form that really just bring awareness to the campaign that was my main focus i think however this was going to respond to me and i before me was trying to spread awareness of that company. thank you after the break as declassified papers reveal a plan by mrs thatcher to teach a lesson to work. is to raise of
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a covering up for crimes it all grieve with thousands battled in the south yorkshire countryside against what has become ill liberalism that's all coming up a lot to have going on the ground. seems wrong. to shape our. engagement. trail. find themselves worlds apart. to look for common ground.
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oh you. can make it. with. the. superman film he can see as you know if you buy the fact. that you're in the form of the media. i'm with you more with the baby when was in the mud almost nothing to do with many voices in the film i was in the most it was a defense.
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join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guests of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. welcome back where it all grieve in south yorkshire the site of one of the defining moments of international neoliberalism. years ago ten thousand the miners many actually escorted to a steel coking plant in orgreave south yorkshire were brutally attacked by the haps five thousand police. jeremy corbyn says the first act of a labor government will be to launch an inquiry into what happened on the
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eighteenth of june one thousand nine hundred for something prime minister to raise a may has rejected critics say her refusal is to project her late leader margaret thatcher who declassified papers show is implicated in a conspiracy to teach the most powerful trade union in britain a lesson that all workers in the u.k. would for ever learn they believe it pave the way to today's deregulated neo liberal work system of zero hours contracts and casual labor well joining me now is kevin horn from the orgreave truth and justice campaign he was at or grieve in june one thousand nine hundred eighty four given what happened here thirty four years ago and there is a police riot. on the minus react in a way they were just discussing to say on the day alive that. the horses from the. factory itself. the horses to the miners appear
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appear almost into a field which will be maybe nearly ten thousand minus five thousand police five six hours and probably when i saw the when i first saw the place i came over the picked. on the word. i thought they were on the actually because of what though much of the information in the field and the word t.v. on the front line these are not about five thousand then you know just just stopping by on the horses in the dogs. they weren't even on the frontline at the time. and some of the ten thousand miners were actually a school shit by the police to the field that used to be there yeah on that day. not like any other day we could get any and. we were being stopped enough to get insurance. and time coming we had on all the days but this day on the eighteenth the law as in they just let everybody in on door showing
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cultures from south wales wed to. and from scotland and durham and kent. people from can picket from can couldn't even get so the dots a tunnel all the cycle to that day in southern england in london. so on this day they were all shown in. a given pocking spaces and rounded up in a field. just over the bridges ready to. ready to be big and. on bills he people are going to necessarily know about i mean what did it feel like when i maybe you were you you'd be in charge of a riot which at that time was a life imprisonment event when the b.b.c. . clearly showed the british public that it was you and nine thousand ten thousand a lot of the miners because it was you being violent what did you all feel about.
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well. a lot felt about it was it was there it was there all the way around that the place will be in violent what it was literally the other way round the footy but yeah it was the other way around and the place of. being violent on. and we realised that we shouldn't of go we realised that when we saw least police we should have gone on we realised that later they were to allege that we were here for the duration. or several times throughout the day when my people saw logo on them. but when the when the. horses first jobst it was that the quiet time after the wagons had gone. after after the wagons and bain sailed oh and gone home and faithful coming up to the as a stall on by a star which is an ice creams and things and. that was
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a time that the police the officer shot just. when my man was out on the grass eighteen so we did. it wasn't the the i told the. pull it off and then would then use all blood i got arrested at the bottom and so. i didn't see the blowed on so until i got into into a police station. where i were going to feel police station in there and i could see that he had the moaning and groaning and screaming and still. found i we got transferred to rather and. when i got how i would tell myself with a lot of it we could see blood and snot and you run all over the place. how we thought somebody had been really you know and that never got to rather and the point was in a quadrangle with all the other prisoners and the people there would swallow nads
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and scrolls and brought now arms and legs. and no medical attention. as soon as i walked in some to grab hold of me jumper and tied tightly around the slabs leg and that's a loss for doing the miners while the first steadman train on the on the world. said on these men oh oh well they. caught it off to prison. so on with prison. and they have until. after everybody had been in to magistrates go why do you think to raise them a is seemingly go back all the road before she resigned in disgrace seemed to say which is there would be an inquiry into the battle of old green what do they want to hide anything for the want to id is that the government was directly involved with the policing of the mine is. directly involved they had an office in scotland
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. where all the old people you know the tisa police. all the all the. evidence. from the files in the whole library university library and i'm going until twenty six. don't. mean that you should be asking questions of why why are they and bob want it so we all die so we may not hear about what happened on that day for half a century yeah. obviously we're only. where things are going to be before matilda and die if that. thank you. we're in the nine hundred two headquarters of the south yorkshire mine is
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association building in bonds to and i'm with the general secretary of the national union of mineworkers chris thanks for letting us into this is storage building just before we get on to that history what do you have that the conservative government are going to go ahead with an inquiry into will grieve off to denying you one well i'm hopeful that the will see the reason that a just to sell him and to wait for the questions that need to be answered you know it was it was darkest rated riots as far as i'm concerned because i was there but the riot was not on our side it was all straight had by the state and the police and i think that we need to know. that and so that safe gas can be put in place to make sure it doesn't happen again you see people are now saying that new documents show that there has been surveillance of people after all agreed you think you were under surveillance i don't think i would personally surveillance as
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a seventeen year old striking minor of the time but i definitely believe that the the dog. was under surveillance and was able to infiltrate was this building would have been bugged i wouldn't be surprised if this building was built on the offices that we held in sheffield at the time i would be surprised that people on the picket line you know the police officers that wouldn't surprise me and it's now called the exchanges name john meeting undercover police inquiry into bugging of people like jeremy corbyn what is your union doing as regards giving evidence of an inquiry well we obviously the inquiry the evidence is sketchy because you don't know if somebody is doing a covert operation. and that was one of the sticking points if you like when the try to exclude us from the inquiry they asked us to provide evidence that we were spied on and well that we haven't got the evidence that was spied on because if they did it right we will know that they were spying on us but obviously during the
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strike with information that will eat there was there was definitely some kind of surveillance and undercover operation being constructed against the end and its members at the time i should say that there is a gesture of that in the book the enemy within by jeremy cool beans present communication devices seamus milne. corbin unlike any labor leader i can remember addresses the derm minus goal what is the importance of the n u m in mining of the mining industry has been destroyed as a legacy of luggage that was the point of the end of the mine is go to the favorite to be the next british prime minister i think the point is the history because you know the. the miners were farming the labor. we've always had a socialist view the one thousand eight hundred eighty five strike was based on keeping the right to work on social justice somebody able to go. do a day's work in a day's pay look after family and improve not just. in the way that we lived
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but for those children the future generations so i think the histories they had i think jimmy recognizes the history of the of the mining unions and the coal mining industry as a whole and i genuinely think that it. a privilege to speak at the did a minus. and he is always attended you know every time we spoke the last and i think it's important that we continue to read that link we may have lost the industry that doesn't mean to say that we have to lose the social values that we've built with our industry down with this room means to me this the same bodies. we want to ground we want well paid when this you know building was was done. but we still always strive to be better and to improve not just our lives but the lives of his kids and his grandkids and that's what this this building symbolizes to me
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that you know the minus collected the money and we built something that that was what we aspire it to be we aspire to have big meeting halls you know decorations and and that's what's on the banners that decorate the walls of this building it's the social justice the fact that you know you work out and you will profit you will benefit from a n all the people should not benefit from your labor more than what you benefit now the n.m. appears to be accusing the government not only of betrayal over the or grieve inquiry but about impoverishing present members over the end you have in terms of their pensions just explain that the pension scheme is a separate one when two billion pounds but the government is taking that money. theoretically that six hundred million could go to banks who knows what is going on with your pensions of your member. being ripped off. ripped off because of
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a deal put together in one nine hundred ninety four as part of privatizing. the government fifty percent of the surplus is generated from the pension scheme. is distributed to members by way of a bonus we have for. at least ten years now been saying that the deal is unfair the government xpect it in their own reports the nine hundred ninety six this is a good deal because they could expect to make profit over twenty five years from the two minus pension schemes. eight billion pounds profit now the index linked the two billion pounds. and said that's actually a billion pound now so the increase on the profit they expect it to me unfortunately minus pensions on the eighty seven percent in the same period and you would think that you'd use the same index linking. increased by four hundred
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percent the won't be that much of an argument about the king but for the government to take fifty percent of a surplus. for providing a guarantee for a scheme that. small risk of failing that actually getting money for nothing which is you know why we to repin the mine workers off. we paid the money in as employer paid the money and that money should be used to pay pensions improve pensions shouldn't be used to prop up a government. for this year will continue to share your favorite episodes the. season on wednesday january. you can talk to us via social media. welcome to the crystal ball edition of crosstalk what can we expect in the new year
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we have a great lineup of guests telling us they think. it's hard to imagine decades after the war a nazi don't tell was still active rich in the nineteen seventies croteau had as the chair of its board a man convicted of mass murder and slavery at ashwood a german company develops into denied a drug that was promoted as completely safe even during pregnancy it turned out to have terrible side effects what has happened to my baby if anything fell you know she said is just. minutes of it a mind victims i have to this day received no compensation they never apologized for the suffering that not only want the money i want the revenge. you know world of big. lot and conspiracies it's time to wake up
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to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smart we need to stop slamming the door. and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. nobody could see coming that false confessions would be that in this place the fall of. any interrogation out there what you'll see is threat promise threat promise threat why a lie a lie the process of interrogation is designed to put people in just that frame of mind. make the money comfortable make them want to get out and don't take no for an answer don't accept their denials she said their forwards are already set on a statement that i will be home by that time the next day there's
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a culture on accountability and police officers know that they can engage in misconduct that has nothing to do with solving their crime. at least four people were killed and dozens still unaccounted for after a public collapses following a devastating gas explosion in the russian city of. president putin's at the scene and has been meeting with rescue workers. freedom francois to set up a joint patrol sidney english channels off the spike in the number of illegal immigrants trying to get the u.k. over the past two weeks. thirty russian children who'd been held in an iraqi prison with allegedly i still link to parents are now back home with that when they return to russia. and a french newspaper apologizes to people compare its latest from page to images from the nazi era.

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