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three people were killed and forty seven injured as a large explosion destroys a bakery in the center both arties blame a gas leak. plus a top class meat refuses to shake hands with a winning russian rival because he was previously bound to date thing. and then i just on these stories had to talk all day with us for going underground talking about immigration and breck's it and if you're watching in the u.k. sputnik investigates the us role in africa. i'm not sure if there were going underground twenty four hours before m.p.'s have been shed yule to vote on to raise a maze breaks a deal which a former boss of britain's secret intelligence service or my six and former head of

u.k. armed forces has said will risk the security of the united kingdom coming on the show is it time for britain's head of state to end the brics of chaos we ask the lord clarke register formally britain's all chancellor and keeper of the queen's conscience whether it is time to step in amidst the arguable constitutional chaos and britain joins the g.l.a. zhang as thousands today march across europe we ask the head of people's assembly against austerity of neo liberal economic policies are bringing europe to the brink of destruction. the honorable gentleman said that in recent months it should be noticed that there was a stick in my car important bricks that matters and keep dollars of all coming up at today's going underground the first of all the b.b.c. world service trust operative goes on a shuttle three day hunger strike in an attack run jail on monday so what actually is the b.b.c. world service trust now renamed b.b.c. media action which described her role as junior and girly administrative they have

helpfully made this video. programmes giving ordinary people the chance to ask direct questions of their leaders have been running in eight countries yes thousands of garri rachleff work for that organization funded by the u.s. state department in the u.k. foreign office as u.s. election contender bernie sanders explained to the american people it was those organizations that successfully overthrew a democratically elected iranian leader in favor of a brutal dictator you see the guy right cliffs previous employer b.b.c. media action doesn't so much counter neo nazi ism and say nato backed ukraine has condemned places. after nato in u.k. annihilation the recently here. is because because it's partly true in libya the forty six do not any kind of media wonder why that is and presumably she doesn't mean media independent of the u.s. state department in the british foreign office according to the iranian government

former u.k. foreign secretary boris johnson let the cat out of the bag about the gari reckless when you look at war news and use it as a gory radcliff was was doing is just you know she she was simply teaching people to use them as i understand johnson now says that wasn't true but even if you think now this is a guy radcliffe was training journalists to attack the iranian revolution maybe you should listen to what the un says the un working group on arbitrary detention has been explicit it formally called in as dns a guy reactive same egypt release back in october except of course it is the same un that says to resume is holding wiki leaks founder julian assange in arbitrary detention in tiny west london rooms for six and a half years with no access to hospital care without the risk of torture what does to resume say to that in relation to. any decision that he's taken about u.k. action in relation to him were he to leave the ecuadorian embassy would be a matter operational matter for the police to resume a they're doing a pretty good imitation of an iranian politician arguing for good to do in defacto

imprisonment i mean as a means of iraq clever perhaps she is just too disorientated by britain's former head of m i six and head of britain's armed forces writing to m.p.'s not to vote for a deal defeated on legal advice defeated on time table defeated on our finance bill and found in contempt of parliament itself some mainstream u.k. media claims the crises she faces are unprecedented in modern political history joining me now is the man who was lord chancellor under margaret thatcher and john major and who now holds the oldest surviving office of state in scotland lord mci of clash lord makai welcome to going underground to tell me about the law. last time you saw a government that could have these problems even putting a finance bill through parliament let alone heading for a defeat over legislation that took two years to prepare for i. don't recall during my time anything quite like that but of course we're in a various special situation it worth seeking to break the vote of

the people link that has lasted for a long time and in which we have become very integrated in the european union and therefore separating that dick here is a very difficult task and that's what the two years has been about and of course everybody has their own idea of what should happen i personally was a remainer vote with respect to democracy that requires us to pay attention to the vote which actually was taken but if you were an m.p. would you be voting for to resume his deal next tuesday well it's a very hypothetical question but i think it's a fairly good deal much so really because obviously as previously the most senior law fishel in this country. we're not surprised that resume had to be forced into publishing the legal advice that is obviously cause does may have to this well

i don't want to i mean i don't think that was a very good idea but never mind but it's the legal advice that shows us that technically the border in ireland is up to the european union in perpetuity but that's not quite i mean what you have to remember is that the law of the attorney general said that the idea that it was in perpetuity was theoretical only and it wasn't a practical risk and that's my view it's not a practical risk at all because the. it's going to be divided from the rest of it by agreement and that's proposed in the binding agreement which is the separation agreement and it also of course isn't the actual terms of the first protocol nor the nitish protocol but this is it's temporary the why did to raise

away fight tooth and nail to keep that legal advice from being shown to m.p.'s because lords of the people because it's. normal not to reveal legal advice which the government's got from the law officers that's been the tradition for a long enough. and there is a law officer is an advisor of the house of commons and therefore they could have asked him to come along and tell them what is advice was them but he is eternal general is the legal advisor to the house of commons and the house of commons could have asked him to come along and ask them any questions they wanted looking at the bigger picture ironic that britain's first colony island should end up having a say over the british government being in place by going to go weeks. as you know i had quite a lot we experience of northern ireland when i was little johnson and i value very much the piece that's been reached in northern ireland and i want to do everything

possible to see that it continues i mean what was it like being. chancellor back in those days it wasn't a very easy task as i said. in my speech on the subject in the lords there had been a killing near the border of judge. lord justice of appeal you the had been shootin lord chief justice and one of the judges had their homes blown up and the wife came in and she saw the shoes or shopping she came in there was a note saying good for you quickly or you would be troubled and have blown up so often somebody had to be a judge which was part of my function was quite. onerous stuff in that situation you were a keeper of the queen's conscience who was to tell us what what that is as well it's. really

a way of describing the relationship percy lord chancellor had with the queen when i was lord chancellor and it was simply. indorsing really the principle of ministerial advice and my responsibility as a minister along with my colleagues was to ensure that the advice the prime minister got was in accordance with all this because aside from whether to raise a measured still be living in downing street because of the assurances the queen was made about supply and golf and range were the deal be some of the news you did in the scottish referendum there was a comment from the palace the queen said the scottish people should think very carefully. nothing. well and she. is the monarch of scotland. england and wales of northern ireland and

it was perfectly reasonable she should give that kind of warning to the scottish people because it was precious to her. through really but of course as equally as precious arguably is the prosperity and security of the united kingdom which is going to be impacted by bracks and yes but that certain different thing altogether from her. written position has the sovereign of the united kingdom she is not the sovereign of europe and i don't think she has any aspirations to be . more so when. the. a referendum went forward david cameron had an agreement a binding agreement with the use that we were no longer subject to the ever closer political union bomb and therefore the only things that were left were the customs union and the single market and therefore i take it the referendum said that we

have are not to stay in the single market on the customs union well you have a president a very vivid memory of the troubles in when you were no child. what does it make you feel then when the d.p. is saying that the good friday agreement is threatened and she in favor well i don't i don't really see the written by the arrangements that parties of me has made and she's done a level best as i think anybody will recognize to deal with the situation so that there's not a hard border between. the republic of ireland and northern to the point that she delays crucial votes and even after delay looks set to lose it well i don't know i'm not a prophet myself and maybe the more to not and just finally i mean working closely with margaret thatcher who after all brought us into must strict and into

closer union with the europe how do you think she would see the trays i'm a deal. well i think she was very keen on the team trade with the european union but what margaret thatcher was very much against in my view was the closer political union and that's the agreement that mr cameron got before the refer and i'm not saying that six truly important there were no longer being obliged to take part in a closer union really a political union which was look at moving towards the united states of europe that was just point of view and there's one other thing since then we have the european army being talked about yes well these are all issues most are such i was extremely keen on doing nothing that was contrary to the law there was a lot of i was a lot advocate before i was lord chancellor and so i was one of her legal advisors

on european matters and learn from her that she was absolutely adamant that the people that wanted her not to pay although she had an obligation to pay not to pay just to refuse to pay that she wouldn't have the total and yet she managed to get one of the most striking and negotiation results that i have ever seen she was able to persuade people all of whom had a contrary interest to grant a rebate a lot of guys like fran thank you after the break the biggest trade union in britain unite on today's people's assembly demonstration beginning at b.b.c. headquarters for a general election now to put jeremy corbin in downing street and to raise him a explains what paper has children of e.u. citizens currently in the lead up to the end of march all this and more coming up in part two of going on the ground.

nobody could see coming that false confessions would. in the spot the way stop wrongful conviction. any interrogations out there what you'll see is. probably. the process of interrogations designed to put people in that frame of mind make the most comfortable make them want to get out and don't take no for an answer don't accept their denials she said before we. sign a statement that i will be home by the next day there's a culture on accountability and police officers. misconduct that has nothing to do with.

welcome back and straight to you jeremy corbyn finally addressing the arguably illegal deployment of u.k. troops on the ground in syria i also sure the whole house would join me in wishing a speedy recovery to the two british soldiers who were injured in syria last week but why is he not addressing why u.k. troops are in syria is there a un security council mandate or any invitation of the syrian government or does corbin the head of a general election have to defend the actions personnel of the british army anyhow corbin got a clear answer on bricks it the only way to avoid know is to. the detail if the rise one of the gentleman is uncertain about what i am saying perhaps i can give him a tip he might like to use a. comment from the british deficit about my mental incapacity should require the

assistance of a hearing aid go been ignored using a crisis to transport secretary to illustrate. government incompetence instead of backing industries in this country and protecting thousands of jobs in manufacturing and service industries transport secretary is awarding millions of pounds of contracts to ferry companies with no factories to run routes that don't exist and apparently won't even be ready by the beginning of april either this is the degree of incompetence of this government but the pm said the e.u. is changing its mind even in ireland's legal borders the time this show was made there was little or nothing to confirm this from brussels nothing has been t.d. allies a month has passed and nothing has changed and as for the around four million the e.u. citizens currently trying to live their lives in britain pay up and show us your papers the fee of sixty five pounds to apply for states under the scheme is in line as for the with the current cost of obtaining permanent residence documentation and

it will contribute of course to the overall costs of the system but applications will be free of charge for those who hold valid permanent residence documentation or valid indefinite leave to and will remain and the children being looked after by a local pharmacy yes britain in twenty nineteen a minority government leader in power because of an arguable billion pound bribe trying to get kudos for exempting european children in care in britain from a mandatory fee in return for paper is little wonder that millions appear now to want a general election the early removal of tourism in the installation of the leader of western europe's largest socialist movement german corben as prime minister today a people's assembly against austerity demonstration beginning at b.b.c. headquarters in west london is protesting against what supporters say is a broken britain we went to the international transport workers federation of orders to speak to steve turner his national chair of people's assembly and this is general secretary of unite britain's largest trade union steve thanks very inviting

us to the international transport federation you know quarters before we get to the march so i'm going to. talk to you wearing your other hat at the largest trade union in the united kingdom unite your leader or then mccluskey he's been on this show i understand in talks with the prime minister is a way tell us all about while what i can tell you these desperate people do desperate things and of course there was a cold yes there was a cold not just a lame secretary codes but rather tried union leaders as well to try on convince the trade union movement that there was a good deal for britain which goes it's not and that permission to be made on chimes where we encourage employees to vote down a bad deal for britain on tuesday and i'm sure that it will bring about it down. bemused that mainstream u.k. media seem to be in shock that the sitting prime minister should be able to even have a phone conversation with

a representative of the largest trade union the country where in shock actually the phone call because unlike many european countries it also is a very good relationship between the trade union movement and its governments a perspective of the political makeup of those governments in britain of course we're not involved so we've never been invited to participate in discussions about the night how deep i as been an internal conservative power it's not even been a parliamentary debate the only opportunity the parliament about to discuss brics is now hence all the confusion and the frustration in parliament but you know this is a deal that satisfies the internal politics of the conservative party i know the people's assembly and unite has been at the forefront of the struggle against purse to any weight crash austerity policies economic warfare some of your members talk about it . what do you think this week the defacto to child policy not to have when they got it from. this government appears to be being attenuated why have

a march today when when poor people live longer force not to have children well that's not the case because universal credit is just one attack on the working class and universal credit is a failure in so many whys and should be stopped immediately not tinkered with as the government proposed to do and it's not that to children although that was out by just about so many things that universal credit has been discredited where it's been part of programs and is force people into absolute destitution if there's evidence that people who commit suicide so that's one issue one measure of austerity that we've seen over the past ten years but of course there is incredibly deep it's a firewood ideological position that the government taken but it's not just ten years of austerity it's four years of neo liberalism and it crosses over political governments including labor's own government under the leadership it's only coast where it was about the corporation as opposed to ceasar role and it was about

shrinking the state and the role of the state and that's what the tories have really done since that are in the now and i is a morsel in the last i is of course under this government and austerity politics is by all the economics of us there is filed i mean sure it's a nice declare the us there is over haven't declared that it was over the last always by conference but of course it's not if you go on to housing estate around the office that we're going to die or yes trouble and then the country you find the impact of us they are everywhere whether that's in our health service whether that say in children's education whatever it is in other public services that been decimated as a consequence of it all whether it's in a attack trade union movement trying to defend working people whether that's working riots or whether that's a right they said by a pio whether that's even a guarantee we can. in terms of work hours of work or zero hours contract that's been imposed on people you know and the impact of us they are it across the whole

in fronts and you name changes you'll enjoy yet as regards today's people's assembly much starting at the b.b.c. in london today you think that your people's assembly is going to electrify the country like the chelation in front or french politics very different british politics a co's in the street movement in france is a different measure activity than perhaps is the base trade decided the people's assembly is going to now or are it for b. and i would put people on the straights particularly young people in a quite demographic that isn't normally engaged in politics to be fair and we're continuing that buying and the deval now coast to die is for a general election and we're demanding a general election because the problems that confront britain right now the fears and concerns of ordinary people in britain a much deeper than just simply. the demand for a second. that might satisfy well not sure that will satisfy anybody actually but however that if it did come about and it would satisfy one group or another group

whether or not it did anything to britain is a different question i don't necessarily believe they would and you've got to deal with the issues. the fit the genuine fears and concerns that people have got and that requires a general election. if you can to deal with the housing crisis if you can to deal with across this in education if you going to deal with across this in health if you going to deal with the need to create decent. secure jobs you need a government to do that and that's the government you're old enough to remember the demonstrations against that's right ideas with. their demonstrations never used to begin at the headquarters of the state when the broadcaster of this country the b.b.c. was today's was beginning as the b.b.c. . is years old ok. but it is true to say that we deliberately chose the baby say because there has been a news blackout against protests and we've not been exempt from that of course

national demonstrations get very little national coverage and the reality is we try to organize in acme to engage with people in their communities to fight the impact of us ever that manifests itself locally but every now and again you do need to have a national demonstration national profile that brings people together in the press of course are very good at norton national demonstrations it's very difficult to ignore if it's parked out side your head office because emanuel mackerel has conceded to the hell of a smirk on some. measures do you think you are beginning to see that kind of ploy from the elite classes here as regards as you mention some concessions on universal credit and the history of the welfare of the history of class struggle with a history of concession by those that control power the n.h.s. when we first achieve the n.h.s. in an eyeful ways after the second world war of course was a concession from those in power and we've always believed that those concessions that won as the balance

a pacifist ordinary people in society would at some point be challenge to guy and bought a ball in classes when they believe that they were in a position of power to be able to wrench back control from ordinary people and i believe that four years in the liberalism is an opportunity for them to wrench back control whether that's public services provided services to individuals whether that state pensions whether that's decent jobs and employment rights whether that's an effective powerful tried union movement. or whatever indeed that's the national health service for education for the challenge that constantly challenge in and tackling what they believe to be concessions that have been grant it to ordinary people in previous decades and that's what i think we're seeing now is a constant struggle for working papers not walk in the park it's called a struggle for a reason she mainstream u.k. media and. say that rex it is a right wing policy do you think that leaving the european union would

allow a labor government to renationalise bring back to democratic control railways energy telecoms airports and lines. because we would no longer be under the e.u. strictures that would prevent. that kind of what i think he does prevent i mean the state runs rabbis in france and. italy and elsewhere what was controlled in many european countries are koso this how he meant that we can't do it here is a fallacy you explain for a lot of examples if you're in the referendum in opposition now. remain inside the new reform but nobody's ever argued that european union was a wonderful organization in the interests of working class people but you're better off staying within it within with a clear. alternative economic and political strategy which i think labor has now developed under the leadership what have you called it that and you are trying to fire breaks from the outside that is it was the opposite of what tourney been german coogan's mentor said yeah it does serve us well but there's an ideological

it's not a lot weighing opposition necessarily to the opinion in the left was opposed to the european union cold and capitalist club tom as well and that politics is studied with us truth simply the ball at the one that we move in service in the opinion of their arguments on the left for leaving the european union i don't suppose arguments about it i personally notice my union sign on in europe but that does that mean that there we go with wins on every different argument because he can win all the new deal because there is that left wing. policy basis and if there is what anybody wins there's not a veil i think the only consensus in parliament now is that they want it now do all it can't be and i would do and idea will be a disaster for all of us i think you know we represent six hundred thousand workers in manufacturing industries for instance my unit. is the largest group within the union a manufacturing would be devastated under no deal of somalia and that's something that we can't contemplate i think if they if there is

a consensus in parliament it's not consensus on that eventually outcome of course although that will develop. but there is a consensus that you can't simply fall off a cliff on the twenty not from out so he is an issue and it's a law of course it's a live issue it's probably the most important issue in many people's minds the country's been confronted with for many a decade now but the reality for us is that what britain needs is change of government it needs a new politics there's a new economy that works for all it needs a resolution to the housing crisis it needs public services that support the vulnerable in these decent pensions we need decent jobs we need a strong effective tried union movement and all of that is within the power of the u.k. government these are not european union issues we don't stop the body european union from doing any of that we blame the european union for all of that of course and successive governments have done that which is why it was so difficult to turn that argument around june the referendum within a very short period of time doesn't matter what the makeup of the government is

europe's always been applying for issues that in effect were landing squarely at the feet of the u.k. government if you say you need a new government that's the point so that will always be a priority no if of course the tories not being well known for voting for their own demise of course we feel used to back in our confidence and we feel used to go back to the electorate in a general election then our policy position inside library is very clear that all options on the table at that point include in the campaign for a second referendum or people about steve thank you thanks that's it for the show will be back on monday twenty four hours ahead of that breaks a vote to speak to one of the u.k.'s greatest geographers president the dorling about the e.u. in the ashes of british empire until then he was not wrestling you will see on monday eight years to the day u.s.-u.k. that dictator ben ali of tunisia left the saudi arabia open self-immolation a moment.