country's going into a nihilistic he'd. think and they've got to. get out but. what makes the show it's a. miracle this is it we point around which hollywood is going to say we're starting last with is going to head into the swamp we're going into the belly of the b. i can't leave now we're getting more gonzo maybe with a different kind of mr. superior i mean i'm going to for a while i'm here excellent fashion photographer and you've got accomplishments in the photography industry in this suddenly you're labeled all right and it's always fascinating to me because the image itself is reinterpreted in a political sense in so many different ways and we saw that i mean under reagan right that he was able to was a master of creating the photo op michael deaver michael deaver that's right it was

always about putting reagan in there in front of a rising sun and he made it hollywood hollywoodized this whole political process remember the greatest political ad about the threat of nucular war was under i think goldwater goldwater and then then johnson ran that ad right so that with the kid been the daisy the kid in the daisy prima's political advertising right and then a quick george bush had willie horton going through the revolving door that's right as was black crime is going to ask ok that's pretty straightforward but with pumping the fraud or these other means like where is this going like people are getting triggered because what's happening is that they're taking cartoon characters and they're associating them with the wrong thing to sting pepe the frog it's so easy to draw it so easy to replicate it so easy to take your context and and put your copy on top of it that it winds up becoming this incredibly powerful thing is donald trump a troll i think the satellite lives. sortes really underestimate they think he's

a bimbo and that he's stupid does he know what he's doing is he a troll is he intentionally whipping them up to look like these crazy outrage speak scott adams calls donald trump a master persuader and i think that's a great term you know donald trump when he was a kid his church was norman vincent peale church who wrote the power of positive thinking and norman vincent peale was accused of being a hypnotist and if you know anything about hypnotism which i've learned from scott adams is that it's all about focus it's all about where you get people to pay attention you could control that stuff and what donald trump understands which nobody in the media and scott's written a book about me talks about in a periscope spied days week is that when donald trump tweets something outrageous about something i don't care what it's about what he does is he gets everybody's attention focused on that thing and while the media is going crazy describing about what words he used ok or what improper pronoun he used in order to describe

something what donald trump has done which is genius is if god in everybody to look at this problem ok and he does he he's going to take the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune in order to get everybody to pay attention to the things that he wants them to pay attention to because you know if it does it was a great analogy but it's the work of a magician and they called mr action correct so david copperfield can make this statue of liberty disappear through mr action and similarly in the mind reading accident hypnotism acts it's a matter of just adjusting that focus so we are saying is that down trump is a master at this and scott adams identifies that they calls it the art of persuasion there's also a little touch of what's known as neurolinguistic programming in there are correct and lp which is how to fake empathy essentially and you put that all together with a guy who makes is bones in the television business reality t.v. business plus the casino. oh industry which is all about making people feel great

about losing money right and you've got a very powerful political power. that's pretty amazing driving from los angeles all the way up to the central valley and it seems disco so far we've seen the whole hollywood industry when we go to agricultural sector there we go through the oil sector and now we're heading out to

the tech sector and you see visibly while you're driving why california is the fifth largest economy in the world as it's below look these are well rates but dulcie's so it is you think of our photo shoot with peter did. a photo shoot with peter dick was really good because peter to was fun of herself all the front line of i mean more than a cultural high fashion photography understands image so the transition to me and creating means understanding means because he brings a love to it i mean that has been a very powerful in a way that i don't necessarily understand and i'm trying to understand and that's the non player controled character the n.p.c. that great to eat carrots or what the elites are responding to is neil liberalism has been great for the. member they always say it's beyond our control the contract

says there's that algorithm says that as if it was written by some mysterious force that somehow handed all this wealth and power to the top point one percent desire stand this me. represents kind of the model heads of the non-thinking media types of individuals who. get their entire. it's like troll basis and their arguments are just downloaded from central command and they have no thoughts of their own but they just repeat whatever they're told so in montclair a character in a game there's this program to help the game move forward but they themselves are not playing the game. so like rachel maddow for example she just downloads whatever is told by her superiors to say. she says that but she is not

a player she has no control for the will around in the game to do anything i think that she really believes that she is expressing her. own and individual all kind of . view of things that it's not just just not repeating the talking points damage to her by comcast you know the ultimate corporate overlord in this case and then so that she reacts to react quite harshly to it like how dare you suggest that i'm not . a player in this game that i'm just repeating talking points and she acts out she gets aggressive about it you know and then in the meeting takes a life of its own because it's completely a nerd it's just a completely non distinguishable and yet these people are reacting to it violently like hillary reacting to pepe the frog if you know she gave it meaning if hillary has said nothing it would have never been talked about because there's nothing there donald trump is like have been the frog nice and p.c. . character that is jumped out of the television and taking control of the story

line and that now they can stop and that's right people react to the trigger man or to certain words and phrases and they don't really think specially hyperconnected hyper social media because the idea is you don't you know i just want to scream fire a movie theater if falsely and yet all that all it all media political talk about is just screaming fire in a crowded movie theater and everyone just reacting kind of way so the meaning is in the labels are more real. than the actual identity of the person because they hit the unconscious unconscious thought here bypassing reason is just going to fight or flight that's what scott adams says is the. trump is a master of persuasion and persuasion is communicating on a subconscious unconscious level. and that's what he's been good at and that's the basis of his success as peter two told us that scott eight adams explains it is his

hypnotism it's all about focus and it's about focusing on that thing that led me that frog in their so called racist frog and hillary fell for it she she pointed to the reasons frog in me that an ad about it and that was the moment that the entire twenty sixteen election for me jumps the shark is when hillary responded to this reese's frog or what the reese's frog which is the cartoon there is and basically it's an n.p.c. right it's gone player controlled the frog does and the frog is an inanimate object on the page. i'm not exactly sure peppe a is an n.p.c. that i think happy has free will really is old cartoon world he's a star i believe it is. i believe although i'm. not familiar with pepys work previous to being me. the name of find the letter said he had

a life yes cartoon if i may tell a celebrated me that i was unfamiliar with this for. leaking i'm not selling stuff in. a while and curse the series. just last year he always looked. at me he wondered if yes try a friend. you notice the seeds. very large seeds very thick skins all your flavor a lot of your tannins and acids come from both of those things. you know the thing is you want the sugars to be high enough you know that because that makes alcohol and now i have a question and it relates to trunk because on one hand he is a trade war and on the other he's trying to build a wall along the southern border where we have

a lot of migrant workers all for taking the grapes hopefully and on the other side we have the trade wars and the chinese are big investors and vineyards we know from france living in france is this impacting you not yet. i know that the agricultural landscape of california say the valley areas have begun ro crop and that kind of thing need a lot of labor. vineyards and not quite the same and especially wineries them selves the production facilities those are all full time all year long jobs so it was you don't have workers and now. i haven't heard of any vineyards having labor issues in this area it doesn't mean it hasn't happened south or north you know denounced ration as far as the tariffs go i think if he continues no politician by any means. we'll probably see some pamphlets going up like glass or.

cardboard products or something you know anything that's for someone globalized basically so many different nations contribute your product right here in california i would say at least five to six pm and you know one problem one problem but you mentioned your romantic and this is a very hands on family business and but the basic resources the glass is getting expensive the cork is getting scarce i mean do you find yourself is this the sunset of a certain style lifestyle here in northern california we haven't seen it here i'll speak local speak to where i live and work. i've not seen any of that come true in fact tourism is on the rise in the central coast they're building homes left and right but yeah the expansion growth of tourism in this county alone. i see no slowing at all well it's well past mine o'clock because the sun is going

down as we don't ever go out let's go and do it. from. what politicians do something to. be put themselves on the line when they get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president i'm sure. most somewhat want to be rich. but you'd like to be prosperous like them before three in the morning can't be good. i'm interested always in the waters of our. last question. when i came back from a. oh mary was her was cocaine

methamphetamine see anything that's altering trying to get us out of. that bad mindset using a chemical that would be so. i want to be drinking and drinking just killing myself but i drink alcohol links don't drink don't get drunk alcoholics drink to feel normal. that's why i now call it's this way drug addicts do what they do a shot while still for the next. star cool under which these guys are going through to it it just means to. need to be hoped and not get pushed on by the v.a.'s are as drugs go and stuff they need to be helped. and they just really shouldn't be looked at like numbers they should be looked at like people if they go to a veteran center for health issues be considered as someone who really needs attention and.

a heart. to me a shot of five. how to get it done that's again. got a great camp and. the flavor profile of this will be a big. line what's nice about since they've held their great standalone line they'll go with asa they'll go with pampers or they go to ny state they go with max white jack he takes the janice up this is the stress j.c. this is described. this is what you wear when you work for john. thanks chris jessica. lall took me major is easier. this because i need coffee is the problem well yeah that's also the surest but it is there like caffeine. anonymous like because i'm addicted to caffeine i'm not

ashamed to admit it. i've got to have it every day that way it's this should be you know they have everything else for the. most people. for caffeine. how constantine oh we're going to be two minutes early. we're going backwards in time i knew this would happen and these feelings almost forty seconds ago i'm having them again. this because we haven't had any caffeine you know it's five in the morning somewhere. this is their western. it comes on the edges in the fall and the mention. that it builds up becomes a thriving. sense and it's great seeing you again in our in this journey amorous behind us then

we're going east into the swamp land that is the origin of america and st augustine florida i would conditions like new york geography that you know this wants all america and the middle of america and everything else that's actually is a hardworking part of america which holds the future with and conversely there is some full skew that is happening right here on the west coast and others the so-called future of this economic miracle of the disruptive technologies the silicon valley and the rest of the i would venture to say that that is actually is a pasta and it's a pasta not about to become a you're not buying into that disrupt. that are going to change the world forever and all seem to have us a negative view on this constant thing not only i do not buy into that but i treat them as a symptom of what's wrong with our economic development model in general so if you go back and look at how california became the largest the core to me those fundamentals the supply of the resources natural resources such as beauty such as land such as ability to with. people into this day such as demands from people

commenting from the world war two and on words that supply side of the economy is no longer there instead what we're having is a junior at the chronic society increasingly no one going into a crowd like this is a chronic and then do you talk or see in other words it's become an older is becoming more of what he thought i am and safe haven here take months or a peninsula fantastic not truly beautiful environment you would expect this to be a home for a lot of and sharper nor should that in the economy and so forth none of that this happening because the young people are leaving this area because they cannot afford leaving and so forth that the resource base which allowed california to develop in one thousand fifty's sixty's seventy's and when they choose is gone well so now have another side of the equation in addition to the concentration of power in the hands of the likes of the silicon valley the money up of these ation well so have only group of these ation in other words and monopsony ization ok in other words the hiring of talent the human capital that those companies are doing is being done on contingent contracts which provide no security no on the job training no

continuing economy they give her is exactly how much of the economy can sustain million dollar plus homes and for the future i don't think the law they say you made it is a she is top having the economy is extremely dull pain in and that is taken out all over and more concentrated and of course it will roll over and when that all is over what really then matters is utilize the resources can you throw into this roll over to sustain of them supported demographics and not we're not demographically anywhere in terms of actually getting younger we also now cutting off the inflow of dollars from outside of the united states aggressively and activity both through policy and through the cultural changes and that it uses well look at the border wall is not just the impact in the day walkers and seasonal workers in the agricultural communities it's impact in the engineers in latin america its impact in the engineers in india not constance in an economist but it seems that we live in an age now where the financial literacy is at an extent. i mean so what you talk

about is could also be viewed as common sense in a lot of ways and our sense informs a lot of economics on but that common sense seems to be don't go and missing but in extremis because of a certain propensity in the media to push some false narrative about the economy of course you are russian you've come from russia and you come from a country that lived under a false narrative for many years is there any comparisons that can be made there is in parallels to the level of disconnection between the narrative and the reality that you see in day to day and particularly in the media in the united states is probably most closely resembling to me of my old home country of the soviet union i was told they have a joke in the house seriously that if you want to see the degree of the that are in control within the any country that the state is either exhorting or trying to

exert you look at the interest in data flows in information and we know this is not to have conspiracy theory and any way shape or form that here in this country today the data flows effectively either controlled all morning but certainly aggregate and what about the oligarchies we see with the ordinary person is doing is they're voting for somebody like trump will smash the system what happens to them and how should they respond to these trump voters mostly they're saying like don't ever talk to them deep platform them silence them cut them off all social media like shame them show up wherever they're eating at a restaurant and kick them out that that building approach of trying to silence the voices of discontent is the approach that say mensheviks have adopted in the in the russia back in the round one thousand sixteen nineteen seventeen we know where that led ok the more you suppress the dissent the more you suppress the popular anger the more you are likely. to pound it up and push it into more extreme directions

this is again not you this has been happening for example in the us media and political of the us media during the one thousand nine hundred before the onset of the internet competitive forces created the great the politicization and first in print and then of course the introduction of the t.v. cable news and the rest of it started to even father polarizing and so they deal that you can somehow control the distribution of information and by doing so a fact of the desired outcome whether it's by all the dark you know by social engineers doesn't really matter doesn't work so between is a great proof of that so as a result of that what you need to adopt is you need to adopt the all this is and and develop the institutions and the forms which start integrating the opposing views into the process so if you want to build the robust us political system you need to recognize that those who are currently exclude and as the undesirables were deplorable as a whichever way you want to call them i actually organic new voters in the united states they need to be brought back in they need to be i never really understand

why that person gets a vote so why don't you talk to them and find out why they're going to vote that way maybe talk sense and to more than your soul that person contains a piece of information which is more than relevant actually people been important to every policy maker and decision maker because it signals to you where the problems are i think it's because they political parties are gonna customs and the idea that they can control of using media mass media they don't need to talk to people and get votes locally on the ground trump election that that was a false narrative and now like the opposition the democrats are scrambling because i remember actually talk to anybody and you know that's interesting because now they're finding that they can't actually talk to anybody because they have a dog and they're very awkward absolutely so you have a job and you work and if i was like who are you using anyway as me all of the sixteen presidential campaign where hillary rodham clinton had fantastic set of well developed bolsa proposals address and pretty much every major issue. they were

all published on her website but she could never communicate them herself because she's never communicated anything from the technocrats we develop all this is down to ordinary people level in her life and as a result of that it was very clearly shown to us in the twenty sixth in the election that trump simplistic oversimplified distilled to their quintessence policy proposals that he's now implementing as he promised to implement have actually struck the great accord with people maybe not because they believe that that was the right way but that was the only way given to them where does the system go from here is there in a way our we backed into a corner how do we get out i think we are backed into the corner simply because of the combination of the demographic factors at acknowledges that i mentioned before this so-called cycle is the nation's thesis and also the last decade of absolutely excessive money printing and deficit financing which all went to fund the asset bubbles that we are witnessing today in a way i believe that we are currently on a cost of a bigger crisis than we experienced in two thousand and seven two thousand and

eight how you go from that disruption level it's too late at that stage to start town hall meetings in stool late to try to talk to folks because the folks are running for their pitchforks so in that sense it's a very big question how does the does this destruction help with we don't have a catalyst in terms of the political leadership which can take this momentum and drive it into ideological direction like in one thousand seven hundred was in russia yes what we do have is we have a strong man in the white house and we have now the proof of concept of how the strongman can be a woman can be put into the white house once all over again that is the territory where we're starting to kind of be hops unfortunately speaking the likes of easily during the period of the nineteenth twenty's and early thirty's where there was political vacuum where the political ideology is more completely divorced from the rest of the people and the momentum was opened in the space was opened for a demagogue to come in and take over. comparison with me and trump because

berlusconi very famously was huge in the media. the buffoonery of the italian media and. leading the country and then go from berlusconi of the current the movement which is the largest movement in italy now is also started from effectively people who have been both in the media in fact to from you know from a comic directly ok so that's a bit interesting the knowledge because these dynamics happen very fast the speed of change speed volume of disruption and depth of disruption of a crisis and at the same time the lock of the existant start to squawk powers to capture the electorate it's in the way a kind of slightly more their version of lenin's revolution or station i will even through that here in the united states it is a scary thought because if you think about that back in one thousand seven thousand russia. did not have nuclear weapons it did not have some one hundred ten billion

dollar expenditure on uli on the biggest military a little old in a constant knowledgeable so articulate and kidnapping money thank you with us in the truck. well i always love traveling from the west simply because the water. great idea eminently sensible. my pleasure.

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