tv Cross Talk RT January 14, 2019 3:30pm-4:01pm EST
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and only gain from it you gain compassion you gain a different kind of dialect you gain a lot of different things and the physical aspect is a very important one but if you are talking about an elite unit you can take women the elite in their physical abilities but even a woman that is a little more physical is the best of the best in our physical ability will not come to be close to the man that is the fastest or best in his abilities. i'm staying with international i'll be back with the latest at the top of the. you know world of big partisan movies. and conspiracy it's time to wake up
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to dig deeper to hit the stories that made stream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smart we need to stop slamming the door on the bath shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. hello and welcome to crossfire for all things considered i'm peter lavelle u.s. secretary of state might palm pale tells us america is a force for good in the middle east well that's pretty amazing and online censoring
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continues apace also by the democrats the party of war now. talking some real news i'm joined by my guests here in moscow mark's lability he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have dimitri bobbitt she's a political analyst we spoke nick international and in london we cross to marcus papadopoulos he's the editor of politics first magazine hi gentlemen cross-talk rules and. that means you can jump any time you want and i always appreciate let me go to marcus in in london we have we have a mike pompei on his tour in the middle east he gave a wide ranging if very confusing speech in cairo essential he's blaming american foreign policy in the middle east on barack obama while at the same time talking about the same three issues iran iran and iran what were you what's your take away from the secretary of state's tour. yes i read the transcripts of
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estates and i found it's a most peculiar one but i think i can partly explain it i think that mr is trying to reassure americans key allies in the middle east and who say ah israel saudi arabia and to a lesser its extent egypt that america despite having lost in its objectives in syria is not walking away from the middle east is not a weakened force in the middle east now of course there is a lot of truth to that because as i said moments ago the american objects in syria has been a defeat states and has been defeated in large measure because of the russia but at the same time since mr trump became president of course america's ties to its two most crucial allies in that region israel and saudi arabia have been enhanced
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greatly let us not yet trump has now recognized jerusalem as israel's capital and of course trump assigns defense contracts for saudi arabia to the chair not something like five hundred billion or six hundred billion dollars so yes it's a strange states because we all know all people want this planet at least know that america is a great force for destruction and instability in the middle east but. i think because the americans have been defeated in syria they need to reassure their allies and also as she said i do fear very well because i believe we have trouble in office and this represents an opportunity in a lot of the recent efforts to want to overthrow the iranian government's and that's something under mr trump's tenure in the white house and you know we'll talk about how the democrats in the media reacted to the speech as well or what was your
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takeaway from from the speech because if we agree with marcus in london. is it so bad the pump you has to reassure people yeah well first of all without disagreeing with the substance just a slight correction on the numbers trump aside roughly around three hundred billion dollars worth of deals with with saudi arabia there's a lot of other deals in the pipeline and the however ninety some percent of those are actually obama era that were just resigned so it's just about six hundred maybe yes so it's really only six hundred billion dollars but i don't know why. so. pump a opened up his speech with this little bit that i found very interesting in my office i keep a bible open on my desk to remind me of god and his word. to the truth and then he said it's the truth with
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a lower case t that i'm here to talk about then he went on to say america is a force for good in the middle east now there's nothing of course wrong with him having a bible on his desk but he's giving a speech in a muslim majority country to the muslim world and he opens this i felt that he was an evangelist that i attempt revivalist i happen to have expected him to suddenly pull out a group of stakes and start to. whirling around in circles yelling america is a force for good america is a force for good as the snakes bit its head off i guess. it was absolutely bizarre speech. even across the middle east even among the supposed that us allies and we're talking about the gulf dictatorships here saudi arabia qatar bahrain u.a.e. qatar. kuwait. they were embarrassed by this they were unfair
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and insulted by this speech and i mean there's just so many you. know when he said at one point that in world war two american g.i.'s. were there to free north america. we assume you meant north africa from nazi germany would russia and china come to your rescue well well russia and china of course fought in world war two and it was russia the nazi germany in berlin. interestingly enough in the american media doesn't like to talk about it certainly my pump ale doesn't like to talk about it but there is a peace process going on to finally resolve the issues in syria and it's being led by russia in my pump doesn't realize or doesn't want to recognize that go ahead. and. successful because basically they consider commission is walking most likely there will be negotiations in geneva or the fight in syria is now much
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less than just a few months ago and obviously you have russia turkey iran walking alongside and you have. in the united states where it is yes it's very because i was located if you're going to you could put turkey in both camps so i'm. compelled speech you know it was strange i when i read some of their sentences from it i thought oh jesus he is starting to say it now. you know mike when you said all were choices the choices that we make have consequences for other countries like jesus yes yes he's going to talk about old destroyed cities in iraq you're going to talk about leave about syria he's going to repent or no no no the choices are all of north interfering is is that you know according to compare them she says there is also obama judges have been done i'm like oh yes yes he he made a mistake when he supported the insurgency in syria is going to say that he did not
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support this rebellion in the wrong jesus so it was not enough for us the war in syria the war in iraq the war in libya pay all want that i was going to run another thing away from it is that. western meddling is good it's moral it's virtuous but russian meddling alleged in the united states is evil again i find in western america you know it's just i see this pattern over and over again the lack of self reflection of actually looking at your own words and we go back to markets in london to change gears a little bit here glenn greenwald came out with an excellent article the intercept as democratic elites reunite with neo cons the party's voters are becoming far more militaristic and pro-war than republicans i never thought i would read a headline like that is an excellent article i think our viewers should take a look at it but we have a historical shift here or maybe we don't do that just out of spite because trump
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has talked about during the campaign and during his presidency about. withdrawing troops from. syria and syria for sure afghanistan. rethinking the possibility of american troops in iraq i mean this is something that his base likes public opinion polls show it but because trump is for it the democrats in the in the liberal media are against it what's going on here mark was. well i don't think there's been any shift and suddenly at my lights i'm again the democrats have been as true or as the republicans let's not forget in the nine hundred ninety s. how bill clinton treats all who facilitated the arrival of the mujahedeen to also during the civil war there and the mujahideen and that's what some of the most appalling atrocities of the twentieth century against mostly in service let's not
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forget how being bill clinton gave the order for nato to stop bombing serbia to free months and mock was talking earlier about how it was referring to the bible well. the beginning of nine hundred ninety nine bill clinton was sitting in the oval office and he also sculls shall i poem serbia and guess what got sense yes yeah i guess so i guess it just like george w. bush was talking to god about it in iraq that's what the other phone in the oval office is for it's a straight line that got into that so in my opinion the democrats and republicans when it comes to foreign policy they are not susana it's all the same kind of health the same when they have no respect for the united nations charter that they have no respect for international law and i think you know the democrats have proven their action it months to all over the last twenty years and ok well i mean you know i want to go back and we came we can take a look our viewers can take a look at the article the root of the point is that polling data shows that the
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democrats are more pro war then republicans though i suppose you know it's to one degree or another both are interventionist both support american exceptionalism marco hey yeah so the numbers show that as of right now some forty nine to thirty three percent the majority of americans support trump's withdrawal of u.s. troops from syria and the vast majority of that thirty three percent is democrats. and the sick if it all. almost identical we see very similar numbers with the withdrawal from afghanistan here's the problem just a few years ago when it was obama campaigning on withdrawing troops from afghanistan which he ran on and then actually surge troops into democrats were overwhelmingly supporting withdrawing all troops from afghanistan and republicans were getting so explain forty seconds partisanship. but it was just not as hard
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from a play into the base how does trump play into this because republican voters as a whole you know there's always specifics support whatever trump says when trump was launching airstrikes into damascus on the pretext of chemical weapons republican supported that so but i think there is a long term shift with the neo cons gravitating to control both parties directly now when we have bill kristol and robert kagan supporting hillary clinton and so on and this may not be reversible this may have on a longer trend than partition is sort of and so then you can sort of the republican party is just like creating the democrats to black and i jump in here gentlemen we're going to go to short short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news today with art.
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let melet so it seems wrong. but i'll. just don't. let me. get to say pal it just didn't come out to. and it didn't read it was betrayed. when somebody find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. welcome back to crossfire for all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news. you can let me go to demonize and change gears and we we see. online censorship are
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gaining a pace here we have this news guard app that will basically tell the consumer of news sites what's. truthful news real news as opposed to fake news but if you look at these the background of these people here i mean this is a combination of all media traditional media and deep state figures determining what news is all about is it trustworthy in your mind because if you obviously the new york times is gets a passing grade but of course the television station that we're on right now doesn't well i mean these people from the so-called heritage media you know the legacy media they have been exposed even in the last two months just look at all these stories you know the sound attack against the american diplomats in cuba was actually produced by insects crickets crickets in ukraine they supported the regime
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which surprise surprise and step on down there as birds the you know on the first of january they've made it their tional city gratian dates one of the most important anniversary nazi collaborators genocide of the way of your own account of that ukrainian nationalists who destroyed tens of thousands of jews in kiev the law and this was reported by the new york times the new york times published an opinion piece by a god the crowd over the ukrainian jewish community who exposed it but the newspaper and there was even there that the states continues to support the president for a show called ukraine. in his regime so they have been exposed to many things but they continue to say that they are the guys are dangerous the same story with france and germany in france suddenly there are more yellow vests you know these last saw the seventy there were more you know mass than at the previous one who is
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to blame russia russia at the same story with germany and we hear calls in the first that germany and france they have also introduced very tough laws controlling the internet they're represented absolved there. are the first week tips in both france and germany and these guys they just could not admit that their ideology can be wrong it's always russia or you know. no just something to let these russians feel that these minister islands he led these arrangements plus their messages that this is obviously a terrible. markets this is a continuing trend here that we saw with alex jones which i'm not a big fan of but i think that he should have a platform and many many others here this seems like a second way this news guard wants to basically when they are polite is the amount of the american market presumably to be rolled out on a global scale so this is going to be a very and two to two thousand one hundred going to be another bad year for free
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speech go ahead marcus in london well let's approach this new as a coup florence and i have two questions to pose no one who wants this. what what is their backgrounds what about backgrounds and number two who decides what is trustworthy or not now these are two critical questions which have to be addressed and have to be onset but as we all know for many many it's there has been a concerted campaign in both america and britain to denigrate. russia and the russian people and to denigrate those commentators in the public eye inside russia and outside of russia who show more open mindedness when it comes to russians foreign policy objectives for example what's happened in ukraine what's happens in
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syria if we just have a look in britain we have it has been revealed in the last few weeks about the institute the state cross and the integrity initiative the british government funded projects which have been designed which have been established to do exactly what i said just now to denigrate russia and to denigrate those people in the public who challenge the british and american narratives when it comes to russia or ukraine or syria so yes these are very very dark times and what we see in newspapers in britain and america saying that aussie for example is controversial or crustal is controversial well i always pose this question. who defines what controversial is and secondly who aligns the words controversial now all you need to do is a bit of research and you will see that the people who define the word controversial in the concepts the hot seat the people who apply the word controversial in the
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context of aussie have insincerity so they're not impartial whatsoever right exactly in a market it's a very insidious marriage between the deep state and journalists that have abandoned their their profession in the way that i would understand being a journalist here i mean this is just a mechanism to shut down free speech at all cost ok yeah absolutely to support the official establishment narrative and they claim that they have real journalists and editors doing what they call fact checking right but at the connections with the us deep state are obvious first of all they're partnering. this is huge their news guard is partnering with microsoft on this they are fighting to get this installed in schools public libraries universities they want this mandatory on every mobile phone and computer sold in the united states they want
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facebook and twitter to start using them as as well and they've they've got a color coded yeah system right. fog snow moves and voice of america radio free europe radio liberty the us propaganda network our green r t c g tent right those are those are are red they're bad and they're rolling out a brand new guard as well that goes out with this and they're what it's doing is attempting to force companies to stop using advertising online that many all media sources like say press and others you know rely on ad revenues in order to help generate funds on their you know their paper thin budget but there's all kinds of connections first of all the founders of news guard are are are linked to all kinds of neo con think tanks like the heritage foundation and the american enterprise institute and they're on their list of advisors you
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know for how this is set up who is going to who are the advisors telling news guard what news is good and what they is bad michael hayden the former director of the cia and the n.s.a. both right you also have richard stengel on there right just to show the bipartisanship of it he's was an obama era official he was an undersecretary. of believe in the state department for the obama administration and he famously said many people call me obama's chief propagandist and then he went on you know in a council of foreign relations discussion right in front of cameras to say that he's all in favor of targeting propaganda in those words. ganda against the american people and he's the one who's going to be advising those guard. on what's real news and what's not to be this is going to work i mean. you know there is when i was growing up there was a nice saying is that you know if you push the toothpaste out of the tube you can get it back in and have publics been exposed to an open open sources on the
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internet so well enough for these state supported actors to start contract ing it i mean what would be the reaction you know from my attitude is this is that when i'm on facebook i can see what a fake story is when it's a fake story when someone puts it on ok i mean you have an intuitive sense here and i think most people that are interested in news how of an intuitive sense i think we have to trust the individual here is this this this form of censorship is going to destroy what we understand the internet we know that media can fuel hatred more than the actual acts you know and i think this is a more than they were atheism when you declare certain group of people simply long eligible for a certain extent if you like there was racism against russian athletes they can't compete at their big games you can't even speak russian they have gone for show
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russian flag even in the audience the same story with the media let me call it what the french president said last year about r t and sport without referring to them by name but he said aggression the french journalists there are some people who hate your speech your madness your four months but they're not you and we have to deal with all of that so it's just amazing he is basically saying that there are certain people posing as journalists but because they're objective here they're not journalists and this is the reason why french people. sure huge position tomorrow. i think even the british even the germans don't understand this they all expected their vest brought us today though why they didn't because mccrone doesn't think you know he he it divides people into friends and enemies and enemy aside dehumanized you know. they just imitate journalists for months.
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you could meet them there at the train station is just says you can mean that there's a train station successful people like me who did something in life and you may meet absolute nobodies so you know it is this kind of a tour that makes people angry it drives them to. be asleep that's why they're in the streets marcus let me go back to you in london i would just take with him a bomb which had the same kind of inverted here in you know in my lifetime i think about you know before the internet some really great journalist great television journalist great writers and all that but today they're just basically still not preferred for power i don't see you a whole whole lot of quality journalism it's always the reference is to power i suppose that makes you rich and makes you famous you get celebrity but it's the there are just peddling a message here so to criticize me because of where i work you know to to invalidate
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that is exactly what demon bob which is saying here i mean it it's basically people that have that opinion invalidate journalism as a as a profession go ahead marcus in london yes let me be. brutally candid about the he poor in america and britain who masquerade as journalists they are not of course journalists certainly not certainly not in our definition of what makes a journalist it is my view they fall into two categories. the first category aren't to describe that most ideologically driven not just of the american establishment. reddish that's what they say. genuinely the lady in the necessary city of west and global dominance they believe in that as much as we believe it is important for russia ok to be so mark our almost out of time what's the second category we're almost out of time what's
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a second category you say well quite simply money talks money makes the world go round and so on and when it comes to the institute to stay strong we now know that many of the ok it's the business model he has are i have to jump in here gentlemen a many thanks to my guest here in moscow and in and london this is the end of our broadcast segments stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember. when i came back from iraq oh mary was her was cocaine methamphetamine so anything that's altering trying to get us out of. that bad mindset using the chemical that would be self medicated. i want to be
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drinking and drinking ino new nope just killing myself. out the whole links don't drink to get drunk alcoholics drink to feel normal. that's why it's this way drug addicts do what they do shop while still for the next. star cool under which these guys are going through to it it just means to. need to be built and get pushed on by the v.a.'s are as drugs go and stuff they need to be built. they've really shouldn't be looked at like numbers they should be looked at like people if they go to a veteran center for health issues be considered as someone who really needs attention. as a spy you have to really split your own personality into two you that is the committed jihad this that was still a life that within me and then that is the son who wanted to come to everything
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they want to do and then try and dismantle everything they were doing so you have to really become a good doctor and know that a tool. you have to follow your own family in order to fold the. roof like there's someone else living inside of me like controlling my body. the byproduct of that drug is the cause like severe depression. because it literally need him to. zomby it's crazy. you know we don't have to do anything it's not our fault you know she was crazy and all that. took years to. get rid of.
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