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he gave a wide ranging if very confusing speech in cairo essential he's blaming american foreign policy in the middle east on barack obama while at the same time talking about the same three issues iran iran and iran what were you what's your take away from the secretary of state's tour. yes i read the transcript office space and i found it it's a most peculiar one but i think i can partly explain it i think that mr is trying to reassure americans key allies in the middle east and who say on israel saudi arabia and to a lesser this extent egypt that america despite having lost in its objectives in syria is not walking away from the middle east is not a weakened force in the middle east now of course there is a lot of truth to that because as i said it's moments ago the american objects in
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syria has been defeat states and has been defeated in large measure because of the russia but at the same time since mr trump became president of course america's ties to its two most crucial allies in that region israel and saudi arabia have been enhanced greatly let us not yet trump has now recognized jerusalem as israel's capital and of course trump has signed defense contracts for saudi arabia so that share not something like five hundred billion or six hundred billion dollars so yes it's a strange states because we all know all people want this planet at least know that america is a great force for destruction and instability in the middle east but i think because the americans have been defeated in syria they need to reassure their allies and also she said oh. i do very well because i believe we have trump in
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office and this represents an opportunity in a lot of the recent efforts to want to overthrow the a very mean governments and that's something under mr trump's tenure in the white house you know we'll talk about how the democrats in the media reacted to the speech as well or what was your takeaway from from the speech because if we agree with marcus in london. is it so bad the pump you has to reassure people yeah well first of all without disagreeing with the substance just a slight correction on the numbers trump aside roughly around three hundred billion dollars worth of deals with with saudi arabia there's a lot of other deals in the pipeline and the however ninety some percent of those are actually obama era that were just resigned so it's just about six hundred. billion dollars six hundred billion dollars but i don't know why. so.
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pump a opened up his speech with this little bit that i found very interesting in my office i keep a bible open on my desk to remind me of god and his word. to the truth and then he said it's the truth with a lower case t that i'm here to talk about then he went on to say america is a force for good in the middle east now there's nothing of course wrong with him having a bible on his desk but he's giving a speech in a muslim majority country to the muslim world and he opens this i felt that he was an evangelist that i attend revivalist i happen how often expected him to suddenly pull out a group of stakes and start going around in circles yelling america is a force for good america is a force for good as the snakes bit its head off i guess. yeah it was absolutely
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bizarre speech. even across the middle east even among the supposed that u.s. allies and we're talking about the gulf dictatorships here saudi arabia qatar bahrain u.a.e. qatar. kuwait. they were embarrassed by this they were unfair and insulted by this speech and i mean there's just so many you. know when he said at one point that in world war two american g.i.'s. were there to free north america. we assume you meant north africa from nazi germany would russia and china come to your rescue well well russia and china of course fought in world war two and it was russia that the feet of nazi germany in berlin will also have a game interestingly enough in the american media doesn't like to talk about it certainly my pump ale doesn't like to talk about it but there is
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a peace process going on to finally resolve the issues in syria and it's being led by russia my pump doesn't realize or doesn't want to recognize that. this process is pretty successful because basically they consider commission is walking most likely there will be negotiations in geneva or the fight in syria is now much less than just a few months ago and obviously you have russia. and you have. that is this where it is yes it's very because i was located because you going to you could put turkey in both camps so i. can tell speech you know it was strange i when i read some of their sentence from it i thought oh jesus he is starting to say no you know like when he said always shows us the choices that we make have consequences for other countries as well jesus yes yes. he's going to
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talk about old destroyed cities in iraq you're going to talk about leave about syria he's going to repent or no no no the choicest of north interfering is is bad you know according to compare them she says there is also obama judges have been done i'm like oh yes yes he he made a mistake when he supported the insurgency in syria but it was going to say that he did not support their rebellion in the wrong cheesus so it was not enough for us the war in syria the war in iraq the war in libya bump a all want that i was going to write another good thing away from it is that. western meddling is good it's moral it's virtuous but russian meddling alleged in the united states is evil again i find the western american in those ideas that i see this pattern over and over again the lack of self reflection of actually looking at your own words here let me go back to markets in london and change gears a little bit here glenn greenwald came out with an excellent article the intercept
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as democratic elites reunite with neo cons the party's voters are becoming far more militaristic and pro-war than republicans i never thought i would read a headline like that is an excellent article i think our viewers should take a look at it but we have a historical shift here or maybe we don't do that just out of spite because trump has talked about during the campaign and during his presidency about. withdrawing troops from. syria and syria for sure afghanistan. rethinking the possibility of american troops in iraq i mean this is something that his base likes public opinion polls show it but because trump is for it the democrats in the in the liberal media are against it what's going on here marcus. well i don't think there's been any shift and suddenly at my lights i'm again the democrats have been as true or as the republicans let's not forget in the ninety nine sees how bill
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clinton treats all who facilitated the arrival of the mujahedeen to also during the civil war there and the mujahideen and that's what some of the most appalling atrocities of the twentieth century against mostly in service let's not forget how being bill clinton gave the order for nato to stop bombing serbia three months and was talking earlier about how it was referring to the bible well. the beginning of nine hundred ninety nine bill clinton was sitting in the oval office and he also sculls shall i poem serbia and guess what got sense yes yeah i guess so i guess it just like george w. bush was talking to god about it in iraq that's what the other phone in the oval office is for it's a straight line that got people that are in my opinion the democrats and republicans when it comes to foreign policy they aren't suso it's all the same color health same point they have no respect for the united nations charter that
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they have no respect for international law and i think you know the democrats have proven their action ignorance to all over the last twenty years and ok well i mean you know i want to go back and we came we can take a look our viewers can take a look at the article the root of the point is that polling data shows that the democrats are more pro war then republicans though i suppose you know it's to one degree or another both are interventionist both support american exceptionalism mark ok yet so the numbers show that as of right now some forty nine to thirty three percent the majority of americans support trump's withdrawal of u.s. troops from syria and the vast majority of that thirty three percent is democrats. and the six almost. we see very similar numbers with the withdrawal from afghanistan here's the problem just a few years ago when it was obama campaigning on withdrawing troops from
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afghanistan which he ran on and then actually surge troops into democrats were overwhelmingly supporting withdrawing all troops from afghanistan and republicans were getting so explain forty seconds partisanship. is not as hard from a play into the base how does trump play into this because republican voters as a whole you know there's always specific support whatever trump says when trump was launching airstrikes into damascus on the pretext of chemical weapons republican supported that so but i think there is a long term shift with the neo cons gravitating to control both parties directly now when we have bill kristol and robert kagan supporting hillary clinton and so on and this may not be reversible this may have on a longer trend that partition is sort of and so then you can sort of the republican
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party is just grating to the democrats to black and i jump in here gentlemen we're going to go to a short short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news today with art. as a spy you'll have to really split your own personality into two you don't is the committed jihad just wants to live within me and then there is some who wanted to counter everything they want to do and then trying to dismantle everything they were doing so you have to really become
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a production you know to to fool them you have to follow your own family in order to fool them. going to want to. get. there so you'll hide away lost his boss because you got then you just gotta go . at anybody on a month all of those imposing but the pressure on us i brought with it has been a. joining us as you know but i was you know. you know just i mean what almost put it i'm already but it was sped up out of me just going to the media and the i mean the lord we're going to. give it up as well i must admit that he feels i just will get us on the same list but those were the old. people are going to respond on one of this part of. this where this part of this. much about him with us if you could a car bomb i just got that already yes equestrian in the thought of getting up there
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calling cuisia just implementing my thought out loud problem you just got to go read. my piece gone into a nihilistic feed. i think i. think the traveling across america to find what makes america the charlatans the genius. of the south american era this is a point. hollywood has gotten so we always are on the bridge of something. called. oh. we're starting last with is going to headed east into the swamp we're going into the belly of the b. i think i want to leave now doesn't get any more gone down that maybe play different but end of this. backs geysers
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financial survival guide. housing bubble. oh you mean there's a downside to artificially low mortgage rates don't get carried away that's cause report. welcome back to cost more all things considered i'm peter about to remind you we're discussing some real news.
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you can let me go to demon out of change gears and we see. on line censorship gaining a pace here we have this new who's guarding app that will basically. the consumer of news sites what's. truthful news real news as opposed to fake news but if you look at these the background of these people here i mean this is. or a combination of all media and traditional media and deep state figures determining what news is all about is it trustworthy in your mind because of you obviously the new york times is gets a passing grade but of course the television station that we're on right now doesn't well i mean these people from the so-called heritage media you know the legacy media they have been exposed even in the last two months just look at all
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these stories you know the sound attack against the american diplomats in cuba was actually produced by insects crickets crickets in ukraine they supported the regime which surprise surprise added step on bond there as boos the you know on the first of january they made it their tional city gratian dates one of the most important anniversary and in nazi collaborators genocidal i have absolutely the hand of that ukrainian nationalists who destroyed tens of thousands of jews in kiev lol and this was reported by the new york times the new york times published an opinion piece by a god linsky the crowd over the ukrainian jewish comedian who exposed it but the newspaper and the regime of the united states continues to support the president for a show called ukraine in his regime so they have been exposed to many things but they continue to say that are they guys are dangerous the same story with france and germany and in france suddenly there are more yellow vests you know these last saw
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the seventy there were more you know mass than at the previous one who is to blame russia russia the same story with germany and we hear calls in the first that germany and france they have also introduced very tough laws controlling the internet they're represented have solved there. are the first week tips in both france and germany and these guys they just could not admit that their ideology can be wrong it's almost russian. or you know. no just some thinking that these russians feel that these men as well and he lead these arrangements plus their messages that this is all obviously a terrible. market this is a continuing trend here that we saw with alex jones which i'm not a big fan of but i think that he should have a platform and many many others here this seems like a second way this news guard wants to basically monopolize the amount of the american market presumably to be rolled out on
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a global scale so this is going to be a vet and two to two thousand nine hundred going to be another bad year for free speech go ahead marcus in london well let's approach this new app as a proper codes of lords and i have two questions to pose number one who owns this at what it what is their backgrounds what are their backgrounds and number two who decides what is trustworthy or not now these are two critical questions which have to be addressed and have to be offset but as we all know pete for many many it's now has been a concerted campaign in both america and britain to denigrates russia and the russian people and to denigrate those commentators in the public eye inside russia and outside of russia who show more open mindedness when it comes to russian's
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foreign policy objectives for example what's happened in ukraine what's happened in syria if we just have a look in princeton we have it has been revealed in the last few weeks about the institute for statecraft and the integrity initiative british government funded projects which have been designed which have been established to do exactly what i said just now to denigrate russia and to denigrate those people in the public life . to challenge the british and american narratives when it comes to russia or ukraine or syria so yes these are very very dark times and what we see in newspapers in britain and america saying that's aussie for example is controversial crustal is controversial well i always notice this question. who defines what controversial is and secondly who the words controversial now all you need to do is
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a little research and you will see that the people who defined it was controversial because. the people who apply the word controversy in the context of how it seems so they're not impartial whatsoever right exactly in a market it's a very insidious marriage between the deep state and journalists that have abandoned their profession in the way that i understand being a journalist here i mean this is just a mechanism to shut down free speech at all cost ok yeah absolutely to support the official establishment narrative and they claim that they have real journalists and editors doing what they call fact checking right but at the connections with the us deep state are obvious first of all they're partnering this is huge their news guard is partnering with microsoft on this they are fighting to get this installed in schools public libraries universities they want this
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mandatory on every mobile phone and computer sold in the united states they want facebook and twitter to start using them as as well and they've they've got a color coded yeah system right there where the red fox knows and voice of america radio free europe radio liberty the us propaganda network our green r t c g ten right those are those are our read. they're bad and they're rolling out a brand new guard as well that goes out with this and they're what it's doing is attempting to force companies to stop using advertising online that many all media sources like say press and others you know rely on ad revenues in order to help generate funds on their you know their paper thin budget but there's all kinds of connections first of all the founders of news guard are are are linked to all kinds of neo con think tanks like the heritage foundation
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and the american enterprise institute and they're on their list of advisors you know for how this is set up who is going to who are the advisors telling nose guard what news is good and what day is bad michael hayden the former director of the cia and the n.s.a. both right you also have richard stengel on there right just to show the bipartisanship of it he's was an obama era official he was an undersecretary. of believe in the state department for the obama administration and he famously said many people call me obama's chief propagandist and then he went on you know in a council of foreign relations discussion right in front of cameras to say that he's all in favor of targeting propaganda in those words propaganda against the american people and he's the one who's going to be advising those guard. on what's real news and what's not is going to work i mean you know you know there is when i
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was growing up there was a nice saying is that you know if you push the toothpaste out of the tube you can get it back in and have public's been exposed to an open open sources on the internet so well enough for these state supported actors to start contract ing it i mean what would be the reaction you know from my attitude is this is that when i'm on facebook i can see what a fake story is when it's a fake story. when someone puts it on ok i mean you have an intuitive sense here and i think most people that are interested in news how of an intuitive sense i think we have to trust the individual here is this this this form of censorship is going to destroy what we understand the internet we know that media can fuel hatred more than the actual acts you know and i think this is a more than the release of them when you declare certain group of people simply
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normal eligible for certain activities like there was racism against russian athletes they can't compete at their games you can't even speak russian that you can for sure russian flag even in the audience the same story with the media let me call it what the french president said last year about r g and sporting without referring to them by name but he said aggression the french journalists there are some people who hate your speech your manners your four months but they're not you and we have to deal with all of that so it's just amazing he is basically saying that there are certain people posing as journalists but because they're objective here they're not journalists and this is the reason why french people. sure huge a position to mark i think even the british even the germans don't understand this the they all expected their yeah well versed brought us today dull why they didn't because mccrone doesn't learn anything you know he he it divides people into
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friends and enemies and enemy side dehumanized you know. they just imitate journalists for months. you could meet them at the train station is just says you can meet that there's a train station successful people like me who did something in life and you may meet absolute nobodies so you know it is this kind of a tour that makes people angry it drives them to their advantage of mean obviously that's why they're in the streets. marcus let me go back to you in london i would just take with him a bomb which had the same kind of inverted here in you know in my lifetime i think about you know before the internet some really great journalist great television journalist great writers and all that but today they're just basically still not preferred for power i don't see a whole lot of quality journalism it's always the reference is to power i suppose that makes you rich and makes you famous you get celebrity but it's the they're
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just peddling a message here so to criticize me because of where i work you know to to invalidate that is exactly what demon bob which is saying here i mean it it's basically people that have that opinion invalidate journalism as a as a profession go ahead marcus in london yes let me be candid and i suppose brutally candid about these he poor in america and britain who masquerade as journalists they are not of course proper journalists not you know in our definition of what makes a journalist it is my view they fall into two categories increase the first category i would describe that most ideologically driven not just of the american establishment and the british stuff these people genuinely believe in the necessary city of western global dominance they believe in that as much as we
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believe it is important for russia ok to be so markel we're almost out of time what's the second category we're almost out of time what's a second category you say well quite simply money talks money makes the world go round and secondly when it comes to the institute the states are all we now know many of the ok it's a good business model he has are i have to jump in here gentlemen a many thanks and i guess here in moscow and in the london this is the end of our broadcast segment stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember. cross-talk will. join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world the politics sports business i'm showbusiness i'll see you then.
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