twenty tailbacks and the guard fingleton kent of those even a true minute delay it don't work has concentrated mines and then there was the controversy about the let it go to contract to a company to operate a ramsgate who didn't seem to of any families. but the femina west fife m.p. douglas chapman has another idea another prospect the fact of bricks that might open that was charming welcome developed sam i'm sure oh yeah there was this idea you've got a bit restarting a fairly route to the continent from scotland well we've had a fair to goes from a site to super ego and that's been in the past and looking and over is they option of going in that ferry back into service would it be a completely new company on your preacher but we believe that given the potential of scotland given the fight we want a symbolic link with the horror europe scotland to the heart of europe i think that the team is as absolutely right to reintroduce this ferry service so obvious of

a cipher as a first class a deep water port no problem there was also a majestic setting with the three bridges but it's had a bit of a checkered history of the ferry route as being a passenger ferry a passenger freight fairly on the freight fairly. manley's to operate continuously that's what we're looking for is a passenger a free service that would be financially sustainable into the future and we believe that p.b.s. federal preachers may be didn't have the same ideas that we have a boat making a sustainable making a long term prospect but with breaks on the horizon and perhaps even a new deal as you suggest yourself with long queues going back from from dover we can't afford to have scorched exports languishing on the two for hours on end until they can access the ferry service and get through customs so that's why this prospect has really come to the fore in the last few months because surely there simply are constantly are going to be able to hold blacks and it strikes is that

not you can will you be kind of stopping your own plan well not really of the i think the what options can we you know we can play both cards if you like if those are. then i think we need to in scotland. clearer route right into the heart you look you know the markets in europe are not going away just because we've decided as the u.k. to read it all from the european union and similarly if there's a new deal then all the problems that come with our i think scotland we cannot leave school is industry left exposed or exporters left exposed to using push through dover or ramsgate or whatever we need our own ferry service from from. my new factional scot to the present moment i wouldn't have to go to the door for a round skate for all the possible difficulties or could go to newcastle surely which is pretty close to scotland bill is it really sustainable to have another us

when those already one in newcastle where we think there is and you know that no one person or along the whole process of discussions has suggested that it's not a good idea that we shouldn't actually go for us. you know i think if we can make the numbers help if we can find new users of that ferry service and maintain over a longer term then the national in the reason why we can have that ferry service running from the. national level support the slogan. seems to be the chosen destination why is that enough you made contacts if you've been on a visit to drum up support already well however. i have met with me here in westminster as well saw the flanders government of the scottish government well the scottish government you know everybody saying the same that we need a good reliable operator to actually come in and when the service you know i'm getting you know months of support in terms of what people actually want to see the end of

the day is how we bring the operator in and make sure that they have the values that we expect of an operator and see the service has been a long term prospect and i think from the tourism point of useless to me of not. just on yet but from a tourism point as you you know i don't think the service is in the past have actually been marketed out well in terms of germany and northern france and italy. scotland remains a huge draw in terms of tutors them you know this is another route that people can take that can bring their money in the motorbikes than motorhomes you know as a whole different market that you can clearly believe pamper vines would not compromise lightly in the comfort of an experience as there is no better country than scotland to have the experience i'm sure so we've got goodwill obviously from the port authorities and aside from zapruder the centrists from the flemish government from the scottish government it's a rule for westminster government if you've been pressing listen in the house of

commons before we need to be aware of is that the u.k. government of state fifty million pounds to support very contracts moving from to move goods from the south of england into the european market that's maybe fifteen million pounds if we don't have a new deal bracks that could be coming to support the ferry service from recite the sort of sponsor you said lou i can i can secure companies who have got fairly so well is likely and you know i think that the from the scottish sectors point of view he thinks that's an ask that could be legitimately put in there whether the u.k. government be happy supporting a ferry service and scotland as another matter because everything's does seem to be so thrilling focused but nevertheless you know i think there are discussions to be hired as regards the future ferry services across the traditional ports in the u.k. but certainly what i want to focus on is the one in scotland and you know i think scotland has got the export potential to actually build

a really good ferry service along those lines and bring in fatal to his trade as well that have been missing for a number of years for trick up the goodwill from the ports support from the scottish government the interest. at least let's put it no higher from the the westminster government one of the crucial question if you've got an operator and do they have fairly well we're working on right no those meetings going on have been meetings going on just before christmas and after christmas what if we are just now is that fair a couple of very ships have been identified and what we need to. go ahead from one of the operators to say we think this is a totally viable service and perhaps we could see the starting point perhaps lease or charter a ship for maybe forty years with a view to actually building a ship that would actually be for a lot for that particular in the future so you know i think the future is very very

bright but we need to keep working away at this actually bring it through to fruition and that's one trying to do as we speak just like we do not see something if i have a loss leader that was. a debate about brakes which obviously support i would like like a continuation of your membership stimulated perhaps a above chance to get the scottish link to the heart of europe is about either bill so we're going to see an irony but i think it's given us an opportunity to relook and we think how the scotland sees itself. as an exporting nation and you know those creech and the opportunities are there opportunities that will remain within europe after all the biggest export market so why not concentrate. efforts and making sure that we have that direct link with the remains of a few tip of the twenty seven countries that we want to walk away from so i think you'd be a great day to watch the fed is still doing that of

a force and i'm sure some of those many flags flying aside westminster just like you'd been flying and all sorts of different flanks but they were here to have a assault on that ship and which is still doing the force on its first journey says you've become. but look. what a brouhaha boat these twenty miles and the guard nothing good is it not just about the brakes scare mongering there well i think what we've seen is the number of customs officers for example in dover before we were told was the common market number of customs officers there was three hundred. thousand to twenty four so i think there's just just patient the part of the the campaign wants us to remain you know that they can see a huge problem. going through their customs four or four over so are you saying that before we entered the single market what nineteen ninety two it was three hundred plus the blow off of metal affectively are harmful and that's why the maybe delays and and that's why it might be this huge load well it's likely and if if you

anything that extends the name of a truck going through customs office that squash huge knock on effects and move forward going to see i think. from dover by lonely too from my point of view it's much better to actually cut the problem over the past you know how to the opportunity for scottish exporters to actually export right from scotland right into the heart of europe and. this whole problem that squash exports are going to have on the till blacks and from from dover so you have to give your garden tearing down family waste five member of parliament if the side gets its new passenger fairly you'll be able to eliminate the possibility of appeal but through faith well i salute lee you know that one of the things that people been crying out for the faith is a new bridge and you know we have the principle of crossing we have a real link and i remember that him really well we have a real link right into the heart of the port that we can utilize as well so we have

all the infrastructure in place the load is the fast transfer of goods from scotland into the heart a huge up and you know i think that's if you're putting that to someone who's exporting and said you want your goods actual in a. ship heading to europe one day one or do you want to still sitting in a big d.c.u. for then but you know for me and i think we should be giving. those chapman thank you very much indeed thank you thank you stay with us because coming up after the break as a break to do this alex gets the very different viewpoints on what should happen next.

there's a whole cost going on in america for profit and the drug companies are killing millions of americans for profit and if no politician does anything about it i mean i look around the world and i see this in the france protests and i see that is growing growing globally and john locke said in sixteen ninety i believe that if the social contract was broken it's up to the people to revolt the social contract has been shattered revolution. because you know provision of my by going to i want to. get. your. resources you know.

so. you know just i mean. i remember. it up as well i must admit that he was i just don't get off on getting the rest but those were the oh they're just beautiful songs go we're going to respect one of this but it was just this where this part of. my body if i see you could a car bomb i just bought that already yes equestrian he thought i think i could i think with your time in ticket yeah my thought allowed me just got to go you. trump when he was running in twenty sixteen articulated a vision of foreign policy that was clearly at odds with what you would consider the sort of post-war liberal international consensus that that american one policy is felt. here might be some claim that there are elements that critique that house

and the liberty here's the problem though it's not enough to offer a critique you can say that there are problems with the existing foreign policy and then you have to offer something that's a better person period alternatives and this is where i think trump is has failed miserably. welcome back the prime minister's banks a plan went up in flames this week by she still survived a vote of confidence therefore she presides over a parliament she still meet with no effective majority for anything this is how the drama played out isn't it the case mr speaker on that with every other previous prime minister faced with this kind of defeat last night they would have resigned and the country would be able to choose the government that they want he has been cooling for weeks for a general election in this country and yet on sunday when he was all in

a general election which he campaigned to leave the european union he refused to. no one not twice not three times but five times see refuse to alt. so on what he himself describes as the key issue facing this country he has no arcs up so whether breaks it alex someone forth a panel of some of our favorite commentators to tell us a direction of travel if anyone knows they will. goals will be of the people's campaign labor m.p. for the north and i'm just playing a bit less in p. member for the helium year west of violence so chris williams of us from labour's perspective how do you see things developing off the list momentous week well it's an incredible place that i mean the government has lost by the biggest margin in history precedents it is pretty clear from the house has no confidence in this

government will actually see the government falling and we could have a general election because in my opinion the only way through the us is to have a general election get a fresh new administration elected so that we can then negotiate a deal this fit for purpose with european union but i would also mean extending all to fifty girls. i think you know the direction you want to go if you want a people's vote how do you get there with seems very difficult to see that situation imagining from this parliament while the first step has been this meaningful vote remember this is something that people vote campaign were pushing for we were trying to tell everyone at least give parliament the power to boot something into the long grass if they don't like it and there was lots of bricks a tear opposition to that now actually they've been using it to because we all recognise as you just heard this deal is appalling and no one backs it defeated by two hundred thirty votes to two on ratio completely crushing so that's step one down actually having this mechanism and using this mechanism to get rid of those bad deals with then reliance upon labor because labor. have

a policy of going first for a general election so that is what we're going to see today if that doesn't come out and i agree we don't know what's going to happen but if that doesn't come out then the next step is right we've only got two options now one is into this death spiral between no deal in teresa mayes deal and no deal in theresa may zero and then the other option if you don't like either of those is to kick away from that and to have a people's vote we do need a democratic reflash if this guy. it won't allow that to be in the form of the general election then we need to go for the other version which is the people's vote where we deal with the issue directly. for a general election is good no confidence until these them is government you know also for the people's vote what happens when the s.n.p. strategy if you get neither of these things in the people's votes also in an interesting place given what happened last night the people's will is predicated in voting on the deal as far as i can see from the website now and the deal is no dead

i do think is innocent to describe the deal and no deal is a death spiral and what really needs to be happening and the perspective of blacks at the moment i think so revocation of article fifty that might want to validated the referendum afterwards but the time is short at the moment seventy two days to goes industry hope for if we don't get this death spiral as was. a revocation of article fifty as opposed to asking the european union for an extension thing i think the potential for the people's vote to be part of the death spiral as well because i think really what people would people vote is a good article fifty revoked in the membership of the european union if they go and have a vote or if they extend article fifty time is being picked on and nothing has been actually sorted alternately the choice in front of united kingdom is either in the european you know european union it's a no deal scenario where they've got no or it's revocation of article fifty the thing that puzzles me in scotland is that we are playing too much i would say the people's vote and we should get on to our own people's vote there's only one referendum with a mandate in the united kingdom at the moment for any political party and is the

referendum for scottish independence really i think as we scotland should be go to ireland this year just through this process exactly the people they've got to u.k. government. more often with the ideas governments talk more often that is government that it has with the scottish government should the power of independence and we should be part of the e.u. twenty eight or twenty nine as it would have been had we won in twenty four getting started and should seize this moment of parliamentary crisis at westminster to forward the independence plans absolutely nicholas three steps at the moment is to identify the window. she did then identify the process and then she's going to get specific on the date she doesn't have to name the d d but she has to trigger the gun that is going to happen in the specific window i did vice summer or early autumn twenty nineteen this year for a referendum a month or two states she could name the date she also has to get the process sorted but what she's going to start on if you're going to referendum she then has to pinpoint some general election which is doing that but the scottish people have waited long enough that we've been quite patient through the two and

a half year comedy westminster we have to move on. this question of the extension of this deadline looming deadline of march the twenty seventh come to be done by the state or do you have the option of revoking article fifty had been even the labor to get themselves into power you would need the extension to forward your plans i think the unilateral revocation of article fifty would be a democratic outrage and i worry that if it's not logical well maybe not. but for the for england wales i think it would it would cause that will potentially civil unrest i mean there's already a credible cynicism about the political process people feeling very very strongly we've had the biggest democratic engagement you know in the in the referendum look i campaigned for in maine by the way people voted the way that they did this is interesting i remain who campaigned for the main but even given the circumstances of the total boat. you still think it's not possible to maintain that position in

view of the rest of the result in two thousand and sixteen idea because i think it would as i said be a democratic outrage and they would be really worried that the civil unrest but the key thing is redistribution of income and wealth the economy could shrink from the six seven states not the tenth even biggest economy in the world but if we had a policy of redistribution we could lift the living standards of the ninety nine percent that is the key redistribution not membership of what lesser number is. neo liberal i would just say we need fiscal stimulus no. the shocks of the departure will be sixty eight percent of g.d.p. we'd have to make up that gap and then some more. hundreds of billions of the why what do we just do with. the sixty percent g.d.p. and then do the study to measure that we all agree should happen see my. members of

parliament some last issues across a range of issues of the very different strategies of how we got this conundrum given the six hundred fifty m.p.'s many of whom range across the political spectrum how in mass can the peoples vote persuade enough to combine together to secure your objectives right it's a bit of a mess the moment in terms of where parliamentarians out that is not an understatement as you were saying before you do need an extension in one form or another for those that want to crash out you can in need an extension as well just because the blockage of stuff that needs to get through parliament if you want a general election you have certainly got to have an extension as well in order to make that happen and if you want to address the issue directly through people's vote campaign you also need an extension that is something that at least we can agree on what i am talking about and what the others who want to people's votes are talking about is when you don't get that general election coming through you don't

get to have your democratic refresh through the new manifestos placed on the table that is denied that's a shutdown and you have a government that is a broken government hobbling on any way getting in the way of what you want to achieve getting in the way of what you want to achieve so how do you boot off that projects that has caused so much trouble and then if you were to have a people's votes and the answer comes back we still want to leave on one day or another this government then has to deal with it we're back in the same place but if you have the people's vote with the remaining. and this government is clearly being called out by parliament and then the people for two and a half years of time their pet project is booted and you can come in with new manifesto saying now that that's out of the way this is how we address inequality this is how we address redistribution and all the social issues that are being caught behind the blockage of bricks it and the tories will not be able to govern from that point because the do you people have nothing to support them on they cannot govern from that point and they will also be internally split i mean if

you're a labor person this would be a massive win for labor ok so it's at the bottom line one way or another the has to be an extension of. the moon with a political stalemate that is that is hard to see a movement in the police the new much as i would like to know converse with the prime minister today and to move on because who does well i don't think that's going to happen but i think what needs to start happening is politics been still made economics to come in and steamroll over this the guys who are waiting for just in time might in fact look into oblivion know in seventy two days time if nothing happens so they put us down reason that voices they've got to get into the revocation game body extension game and do it very very quick because if they don't there is going to be done shock the loss of g.d.p. is coming very soon because. sometimes government survival doesn't depend on having a majority to survive for this is about having the will to govern and i was very struck by the meeting rejection of the prime minister's plans with business leaders

calling to the reports from the business leaders the chancellor the blacks and the business a different question. before is that in the case and that perhaps the will of the ability to govern may collapse in this government whatever the result of the vote of confidence is when you think so wouldn't you i mean we are definitely in the territory here. never seen such chaos you know i remember the seventy four to seventeen on labor government. they still go on for about three years in the minority but i don't think there was ever this level of of chaos but theresa may is limpet like qualities and she's managed to sneak around in a way which i would have thought was what was going to be impossible i would have thought would have been impossible for any of the later lead it would have survived called an election with a majority government and then find themselves in a minority at the end of the process over late it would have survived a vote calling the government in contempt of parliament or losing king stages of

their finance bill but she's managed to stick around she said caustic ability whether or not you know that will will last i don't know she certainly seems to me so our last word for me the hoody. politics but a phrase in the phrase what's the game of the endgame of brakes is to actually challenge you've got this limp prime minister that is holding on to her place and the whole country is getting damaged because of it and you can't get any other agenda going forward because of it if you can't get a refreshing terms of manifestos then you need to take it on head on. well the end game is that we're going to leave the european union i think i don't think there's any way out of that and frankly i think even a second referendum would almost certainly bring back a similar result if not a big majority fully that's much my that's my sense anyway of public opinion at the moment i just feel engaged. for the economic damage and for leaving you to the endgame of the exit has to be for scotland to have an independence referendum and

to move on to be a country like ireland to be a normal country of the european union i'm not if you don't get it when we see would stick to what the chaos is the west was that on the ideas for the future of the west was to be so on the fringes and on the edges we want to be part of europe would be given that opportunity scottish people it should be noted that in opinion polls in scotland european union is more and more popular in the united kingdom well. position of total care so i wouldn't say you have charted one way through these waters but perhaps. at least a way forward thank you very much. thank you banks. and saw the deed is done and thus the prime minister's european policy is undone that aides of january have passed and by an epic the just central part of the political program but instead of being carried out in a shield the prime minister just carries on totally aimlessly wondering towards no particular destination whatsoever and so will parliament no a set itself and the girl she is softer breck's it or will we just continue in

chaos and confusion huddling towards a cliff edge that if you really want to plunge off whatever has to be done no one hust to be more. the total folly eighteen months ago if invoking after fifty folk we could no disclaimers a british backstop that is knowing where you'll be in the event of no deal has never been more apartment but we know know from the scottish and european courts that this mistake can be rectified provoking article fifty at least agreeing a significant extension with europe no would create the time in the space for one of three things to happen parliament could come to that elusive consensus secondly you could hold an election or three you could let the people decide again. but i have choices made that would be infinitely preferable to the impetus for this desperate government big in office but not in power and for a despot all position holding the parliamentary power but no big in office and so

for cause of me and the rest of the team is good bye for now. officer. told them to get up off the ground. down. themselves on the sounds of. grown man like wrestling essentially. do his job. was to go away from the officer. they obviously did they kind of lunge for the web in one semester and then when it

happened down she swung and i didn't hit him i never saw any contact between the two any kind went back to where they were so the answer is back here there try again fifteen feet apart at this point and that's when the officer saw his gun he did on three. it was you know provision on my back when i wanted to. ask but i. just i go hide oh i lost his boss because. we don't have any of those it doesn't put the pressure on us i don't mean. showing us you know part of us you're not. you know just i mean what it i'm already but it was just going to go easy i mean we're going to. give it up i must admit that he was i just don't get it i'm getting letters but those

were the old. people are going to respect one of this but i would. just buy this one of these on. my bed and we fussy credible but just but that's already yes equestrian he thought a thing of it but i think with you just implementing. that entire collection of countries and regions that have been the main economic. players for decades now over time they're going to become much more players of the world is going to evolve china india middle east africa. under certain scenarios they're going to represent about eighty percent of world g.d.p. at the end of the century and that scenario is where they do.