are you to appear as still feet on bricks a concession to the advocate edified to direct very link with the continent alex picks up the story one of the most unexpected aspects of the brakes at debate as beat to focus attention on the family business the danger of quitting tailbacks and the guard fingleton can't have those even a true minute believe that door work has concentrated minds and then there was the controversy about the lead to go to a contract to a company to operate a ramsgate who didn't seem to of any families. but the firm in the west. douglas chapman has another idea another prospect the fact of bricks that might open that was charming welcome to the exam i'm sure oh yeah there was this idea you've got a bit restarting a fairly route to the continent from scotland well we've had a fair to cause former site of super ego and that's been in the past and forward looking and though is they option of being in that ferry back into service we need

to be a completely new company and your preacher but we believe that given the potential of scotland given the fight we want a symbolic link with the horror europe part of scotland to the heart of europe i think that says the team is as absolutely right to use this ferry service so obvious of a cipher as a first class a deep water port no problem there was also a majestic setting with the three bridges but let's have a checkered history of the ferry route as being a passenger ferry a passenger freight fairly on the freight fairly and it hasn't manley's to operate continuously that's what we're looking for is a passenger and free service that would be financially sustainable into the future we believe that p.b.s. ferry operators may be didn't have the same ideas that we have a boat making a sustainable making a long term prospect but with breaks on the horizon and perhaps even a new deal as you suggest yourself with. long queues going back from from dover we

can't afford house korczak sports languishing on the two for hours on end until they can access the ferry service and get through customs so that's why this prospect has really come to the fore in the last few months because surely the s.n.p. of constantly are going to be able to hold blacks and it strikes is that not your community because of stopping your own plan well not really of the options can we you know we can play both cards if you like if there's are one hundred then i think we need in scotland a clearer route right into the heart you look for you know the markets in europe are not going away just because we've decided as a few key to read it all from the european union and similarly if there's a new deal then all the problems that come with our i think scotland kind of we kind of leave school as industry left exposed their exporters left exposed to using push through dover or ramsgate or whatever we need our own ferry service from from

before i was a minute fraction of scotland at the present moment i wouldn't have to go to the door for a round skate for all the possible difficulties or could go to newcastle surely which is pretty close to scotland bill is it really sustainable to have a northern service when those already one in newcastle where we thing that is and you know that no one person or along the whole process of discussions has suggested that it's not a good idea that we should not actually go for us. you know i think if we can make the numbers help if we can find new users of that ferry service and maintain over a longer term then the national in the reason why we can have that ferry service running from the. national level of support to slow build. seems to be the chosen destination and why is that enough you made contacts if you've been on a visit to drum up support already well however. if you. i have

met with me here in westminster as well saw the flanders government of the scottish government well the scottish government you know anybody saying the same that we need a good reliable law pretty sure to actually come in and when the service you know i'm getting you know months of support in terms of what people actually want to see the end of the day is how we bring the operator in and make sure that they have the values that we expect of an operator and see the service has been a long term prospect and i think from the tourism point of use more recently i've not touched on yet but from a tourism point issue you know i don't think the services in the past have actually been marketed that well in terms of germany and northern france and italy. scotland remains a huge draw in terms of tutors them you know this is another route that people can take that can bring their money in the motorbikes their motor homes you know as a whole different mark of a time kind of a bit of camper vans would never compromise slightly in the camper van experience

as there's no better country than scotland have the experience i'm sure so we've got goodwill obviously from the port authorities and the size of. the centrists from the flemish government from the scottish government it's a rule for westminster government if you've been pressing list in the house of commons before we need to be aware of is that the u.k. government of state fifty million pounds to support thirty contracts moving from to move goods from the south of england into the european market that's maybe fifteen million perrin's if we don't have a new deal bricks that could be coming to support the ferry service from recite the sort of sponsor use. i can secure companies who have got fairly so well is likely and you know i think that the from the. point of view he thinks that's an ask that could be legitimately put in there whether the u.k. government be happy supporting a ferry service and scotland. as another matter because everything's does seem to

be so i think when focused but nevertheless you know i think there's discussions to be hired regards the future ferry services across the regional ports in the u.k. but certainly what i want to focus on is the one in scotland and you know i think scotland has got the export potential to actually build a really good ferry service along those lines and bring in vital to this trade as well that have been missing for a number of years for trick up the goodwill from the ports support from the scottish government the interest at least let's put it no higher from the the westminster government one of the crucial question if you've got an operator and do they have fairly well we're working on right no those meetings going on there have been meetings going on just before christmas and after christmas. point where we are just fed a couple of very ships have been identified and what we need to. go ahead from one of the operators to say we think this is

a totally viable service and perhaps we could see the starting point perhaps at lease or charter a ship for maybe forty years with a view to actually building a ship that would actually be for a lot for that particular in the future so you know i think the future is very very bright but we need to keep working away at this actually bring it through to fruition and that's what i'm trying to do as we speak just now would you not see something if i have a last lead that was chapman. a debate about brakes which obviously support i would like like a continuation of european membership stimulated perhaps saw above chance to get the scottish link to the heart of europe is about either bill so we're going to see an irony but i think it's given us an opportunity to relook and rethink how scotland sees itself. as an exporting nation you know those creatures and the opportunities are there. are opportunities that will remain within europe after all

the biggest export market so why not concentrate. efforts and making sure that we have that direct link with the remains of a few tip of the twenty seven countries that we want to walk away from so i think you'd be a great day to watch the fed is still doing that of a force and i'm sure some of those many flags flying who say westminster just no. flying is and also it's a different flanks but they really hate to have a assault on that ship and what it still do in the force one is forced on me to. find out what a brouhaha these tailbacks of twenty miles and the guard nothing good is it not just about scaremongering there well i think what we've seen is the number of customs officers for example in dover before we took what was the common market number of customs officers there was three hundred that's noted down into twenty four so i think they're just just patient the part of the campaign wants us to

remain you know that they can see a huge problem with goods going through their customs four or four over so are you saying that before we entered the single market what ninety ninety two it was three hundred customs officers must of effect that we are harmful and that's why the make believe them and that's why it might be this huge load well it's likely and if if you anything that extends the name of a truck going through customs office that squash huge knock on effects and move forward going to see i think. reaching out from a lonely too from my point of view it's much better to actually cut the problem over the past you know how to the opportunity for shortish exporters to actually export right from scotland right into the heart of europe and. this whole problem that squash exports are going to have on the till blacks and from from dover so you have your garden tearing down family waste five member of parliament if the side gets its new passenger and fleet. fairly you'll be able to eliminate the

possibility of appeal but through faith well i salute lee you know that one of the things that people been trying out for the face is. you know we have the means for the closing we have a real link not a member but a human room and it will have a real link right into the port that we can utilize as well so we have all the infrastructure in place the lows the fos tons of goods from scotland into the harbor you don't you know i think that's if you have to not sue someone who's exporting and so if you want your goods to ship heading to europe on day one or you want to steal something in a big city dover and d.c. before then but you know it's not so no brainer for me and i think we should be giving scottish exporters the opportunity those chapman thank you very much indeed thank you like you think about us because coming up after the break at the break q they suggested alex gets the bait different viewpoints on what should happen next.

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ruling classes can protect themselves. the climate there in europe if suddenly the one percent. middle of the room sick. welcome back the prime minister's banks a plan went up in flames this week but she still survived a vote of confidence therefore she presides over a parliament she still meet with no effective majority for anything this is how the drama played out isn't it the case mr speaker that with every other previous prime minister faced with this kind of defeat last night they would have resigned and the country would be able to choose the government that they want has been calling for

weeks for a general election in this country and yet on sunday when he was asked in a general election would he campaign to leave the european union he refused to say . no not twice not three times but five times seriously still so one more himself describes as the key issue facing this country he has no so whether bracks it alex semin forth a panel of some of our favorite commentators to tell us a direction of travel if anyone knows they will. goals will be of the people. labor m.p. for the north and i'm just glad to be less impi member for the helium and near the west of violence so chris williams of from labor's perspective how do you see things developing after this momentous week well it's an incredible place that i mean the government has lost by the biggest margin in history precedents it is

pretty clear from the house has no confidence in this government will actually see the government falling and we can't have a general election because in my opinion the only way through the us is to have a general election get a fresh new administration elected so that we can then negotiate a deal this fit for purpose with european union but i would also mean extending all tickle fifty girls. i think you know the direction you want to go if you want a people's vote how do you get seems very difficult to see that situation a managing from the well the first step has been this meaningful vote remember this is something that people vote campaign were pushing for we were trying to tell everyone at least give parliament the power to boot something into the long grass if they don't like it and there was lots of bricks a tear opposition to that now actually they've been using it to because we all recognise as you just heard this deal is appalling and no one backs it defeated by two hundred thirty votes to two on ratio completely crushing so that's step one

down actually having this mechanism and using this mechanism to get rid of those bad deals with then reliance upon labor because labor. have a policy of going first for a general election so that is what we're going to see today if that doesn't come out and i agree we don't know what's going to happen but if that doesn't come out then the next step is right we've only got two options now one is into this death spiral between no deal in teresa mayes deal and no deal in theresa may zero and then the other option if you don't like either of those is to kick away from that and to have a people's vote we do need a democratic reflash if this goes. i'm unwilling to allow that to be in the form of a general election then we need to go for the other version which is the people's vote where we deal with the issue directly i guess premier will for a general election you could no confidence until he's amazed government you're also for the people's vote what happens with the s.n.p. strategy if you get neither of these things for the people who chose an uninteresting place given what happened last night the people's will was predicated

in voting on the deal as far as i can see from the website and the deal is no dead i do think in this and describing the deal and no deal as a death spiral what really needs to be happening and the perspective of bracks at the moment i think is that i've occasion of article fifteen i might want to validated what i said in them afterwards but the time is short at the moment seventy two days to go so walk an industry hope for if we don't get this death spiral as was well described by my you would go for a revocation of article fifty as opposed to asking the european union for an extension thing i think the potential for the people's vote to be part of the death spiral as well because i think really what people's will people are about is to get article fifty revoked and maintain their membership of the european union if they go and have a vote or if they extend article fifty time it's been kicked on and nothing has been actually sorted alternately the choice in front of united kingdom is either in the european you know the european union and it's it's a no deal it's an area where they've got no or it's revocation of article fifty the thing that puzzles me in scotland is that we are playing too much i would say the

people's vote and we should get on to our own people's vote there's only one referendum with a mandate in the united kingdom at the moment for any political party and is that i've had them for scottish independence and not really i think is the way scotland should be going to ireland this year is through this process exactly the pill they've got u.k. government has liaise more often with the irish government to talk more often that is government that it has with the scottish government should the power of independence and we should be part of the e.u. twenty eight or twenty nine that it would have been had we run into a little silly getting started and should seize this moment of parliamentary crisis at westminster to forward the independents plans absolutely nicholas version of the steps at the moment is to identify the window. she did then identify the process and then she's going to get specific on the date she doesn't have to name the d d but she has to trigger the gun that is going to happen in the specific window i did vice summer or early autumn twenty nine thousand this year for a referendum a month or two state she could name the date she also has to get the process sorted but what she's going to start on if you're going to referendum she then has to

pinpoint some general election which is doing that but the scottish people have waited long enough that we've been quite patient through the two and a half year comedy westminster we have to move on. this question of the extension of this deadline looming deadline of march the twenty seventh come to be done by the state or do you have the option of revoking article fifty had been even the labor to get themselves into power you would need to. forward your plans i think the unilateral revocation of article fifty would be a democratic outrage and i worry that you know if it's not a lot of course you have you know. but for sunday for england wales i think it would it would cause that will potentially civil unrest i mean there's already a credible cynicism about the political process people feeling very very strongly with the biggest democratic engagement you know in the in the referendum look i campaigned for in maine by the way people voted the way that they did this is interesting i remember who campaigned for the main but even given the circumstances

of the total boat. you still think it's not possible to maintain that position in view of the rest of the result in two thousand and sixteen idea because i think it would as i've said be a democratic outrage and there would be really worry that the civil unrest but the key thing is redistribution of income and wealth the economy could shrink from the fate of six seven eight not ten biggest economy in the world but if we had a policy of redistribution we could lift the living standards of the ninety nine percent that is the key redistribution not membership of whatever number is. neo liberal club just say we need fiscal stimulus no a lot of the shocks of the departure will be six to eight percent of g.d.p. we'd have to make up that gap and then some more. that's hundreds of billions of the why what do we just do with. the sixty percent g.d.p.

and then do the m d a study to measure that we all agree should happen. to members of parliament some last issues of course a range of issues of the very different strategies of how we got this conundrum given six hundred fifty m.p.'s many of whom range across the political spectrum how in mass can the people's vote persuade enough to combine together to secure your objectives right it's a bit of a mess the moment in terms of where parliamentarians out that is not an understatement as you were saying before you do need an extension in one form or another for those that want to crash out you can in need an extension as well just because the blockage of stuff that needs to get through parliament if you want a general election you have certainly got to have an extension as well in order to make that happen and if you want to address the issue directly through people's vote campaign you also need an extension that is something that at least we can agree on what i am talking about and what the others who want to people's votes are

talking about is when you don't get that general election coming through you don't get to have your democratic refreshed through the new manifestos placed on the table that is denied that's a shutdown and you have a government that is a broken government hobbling on any way getting in the way of what you want to achieve getting in the way of what you want to achieve so how do you boot off that projects that has caused so much trouble and then if you were to have a people's votes and the answer comes back we still want to leave on one day or another this government then has to deal with it we're back in the same place but if you have the people's vote with the remaining. and this government is clearly being called out by parliament and then the people forcing two and a half years of time their pet project is booted and you can come in with new manifesto saying now that that's out of the way this is how we address inequality this is how we address redistribution and all the social issues that have been caught behind the blockage of bricks it and the tories will not be able to govern

from that point because the do you people have nothing to support them on they cannot govern from that point and they will also be internally split i mean if you are a labor person this would be a massive win for labor ok so is that the bottom line one way or another the has to be an extension of. the moon with a political stalemate that is and that is hard to see a movement in the police the new much as i would like the voter new conference with the prime minister today and to move on as well i don't think that's going to happen but i think what needs to start happening is politics in steel made economics to come in and steamroll over this the guys who are in for just in time might in fact you have slipped into oblivion know in seventy two days time if nothing happens so they put us down reason that voice is they've got to get into the revocation game body extension game and do it very very quick because if they don't there is going to be done shock the loss of g.d.p. is coming very soon because. sometimes government survival doesn't depend on having a majority to survive for this is about having the will to govern and i was very

struck by the meeting off the live rejection of the prime minister's plans with business leaders according to reports from the business leaders the chancellor the break the business a different versions to offer the. before is that member cation that perhaps the will of the ability to govern may collapse in this government whatever the result of the vote of confidence is when you think so wouldn't you i mean we are definitely in the territory here. never seen such chaos you know i remember the seventy four to seventy nine labor government. they still go on for about three years in the minority but i don't think there was ever this level of of chaos but theresa may is limpet like qualities and she's managed to sneak around in a way which i would have thought was what was one of many possible i would have thought would have been impossible for any of the later lead it would have survived called in an election with a majority government and then find themselves in a minority at the end of the process over late it would have survived

a vote calling the government in contempt of parliament or losing king stages of their finance bill but she's managed to stick around she said caustic ability whether or not you know that will will last i don't know she certainly seems to me so our last word to use will be the houdini of politics. a phrase in the phrase the game of bricks the end game of brakes is to actually challenge you've got this limp prime minister that is holding on to her place and the whole country is getting damaged because of it and you can't get any other agenda going forward because of it if you can't get a refreshing terms of manifestos then you need to take it on head on. well the end game is that we're going to leave the european union i think it's a fight i don't think there's any way out of and frankly i think even a second referendum would almost certainly bring back a similar result if not a big majority fully that's much my that's my sense anyway of public opinion at the moment i just feel engaged. for the economic damage and for leaving utopia in the

endgame of the exit has to be for scotland to have an independence referendum and to move on to be a country like ireland to be a normal country of the european union a model you don't get when we see would stick to what the chaos is the west was that on the ideas for the future of the west was to be so on the fringes and on the edges we want to be part of europe would be given that opportunity scottish people it should be noted that in opinion polls in scotland european union is more it more popular in the united kingdom well. position of total care so i wouldn't say you've charted one way through these waters. at least the way forward thank you very much indeed thank you darling. and so the deed is done and thus the prime minister's european policy is undone that aids of january have passed and by an epic majority of two hundred thirty the largest defeat of any government history on a central part of the political program but instead of being carried out in a shield the prime minister just carries on totally aimlessly wondering towards no

particular destination whatsoever and so will parliament no assessed self and the girl she is softer brecht's it or will we just continue in chaos and confusion huddling towards a cliff edge that if you really want to plunge off. whatever has to be done no one hust to be more. the total folly eighteen months ago if invoking after fifty folk what we could know disklabel fifty folk what we could know disclaimers a british backstop that is knowing where you'll be in the event of no deal has never been more apartment but we now know from the scottish and european courts that this mistake can be rectified provoking article fifty at least agreeing a significant extension with europe no would create the time in the space for one of three things to happen parliament could come to that elusive consensus secondly you could hold an election or three you could let the people decide again. but i

have choices made that would be infinitely preferable to the us for this display of government big in office but not impossible and for a despot all position holding the parliamentary power but no being in office and so fatah's to me and the rest of the team is good bye for now. when i came back from iraq out of marijuana her was cocaine methamphetamine so anything that's altering trying to get us out.

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