body. the byproduct of the drug is the cause like severe depression. because it literally made him into a zombie is crazy. you know we don't have to do anything it's not our fault you know she was crazy and all that for. years. of. tear gas and water cannons are called into action in paris as anti-government yellow vest rallies are staged for a tenth consecutive weekend across friends despite president launching

a national debate to placate the protesters. u.s. president trump addresses the nation with a border security proposal which he says could end of the government shutdown but the democratic leadership in congress says the offer brings nothing new to the table. pressure counsel robert muller casts doubt on an incendiary new buzz feed report claiming donald trump told his lawyer to mislead congress and the u.s. president has forcefully rejected the allegations. only an hour from now it is the weekly with a look back at the most important news of the past seven days straight ahead on our to international know we're going underground but in the u.k. and ireland sputnik is next stay with us.

see we're going on the ground amidst a crisis in the british government coming up in the show in a week of unprecedented turmoil in westminster the name of the labor prime minister who defeated churchill than one hundred forty five was never forgotten we talked to lord deathly grandson of one of britain's towering socialist leaders clement attlee and as a minority government prepares for plan b. after to raise amaze contempt and unprecedented defeats in parliament we get both sides of the debate with may's former home office minister norman baker and consultant editor of the ms daily mail andrew p s plus. questions to the prime minister but after the biggest defeat in history can juries of even call itself the prime minister also more coming up in today's going on the ground first after a week of crisis in westminster affecting arguably not just seventy million in britain but about half a billion of the e.u. jeremy corbin's labor party chose to reference one u.k. politician named again and again in tuesday's biggest ever defeat of

a british prime minister he and his health secretary are in bevan famous for creating the national health service clement attlee was name checked on a street sign in a labor broadcast as tories were congratulated for voting for themselves on wednesday to keep theresa may prime minister a country that believes they have. no choice right. country. the names of clement attlee and the man he defeated after leading the u.k. to victory against the nazis were touchstones in the defeat of teresa mayes breaks a deal this year this should be a historic day for the future of our country and parliament this was once a chamber of winston churchill and clement attlee instead if you did a day of high farce and self-delusion but as the late world war two veteran harry leslie smith who also featured in this week's labor broadcast said labor leader jeremy corbyn made him think of arguably britain's greatest post-war prime in a. jimmy you're

a may call milton reminds me of clement a in nineteen forty five and i think if he puts his shoulders to it well you know i think he can be. a man who changed new. england for the better just clement attlee did someone who would not agree is the grandson of time undoubtedly david cameron's former whip in the house of lords british tory government peer lord athlete who served in yugoslavia and in iraq joins me now law that they welcome to going underground so before we get to different masses why do you think your grandfather's name was invoked time and time again not only at the tourism a brix a deal vote which was the worst vote for a prime minister in recent memory maybe ever let alone a no confidence motion on wednesday where the closest thing about clam was his brilliance holding together a disparate team of disparate and talented team and you saw when he went sick he

did occasionally the team fell apart the long as he was. as well he held that team together and that's what we're missing now the only two promises to really change anything a post-war one was a clam and there was action but what does his legacy have specifically to do with what's happening between corporate interests and may have the dispatch box was quite interesting because actually the relationship between clem and winston was very close in fact they've recently published a book about that and it tells us that the relationship was even closer than i thought it was and was disappointing is that jamie corbin doesn't want to go now to check the prime minister. about what we could do to get out of the breaks it happened in the moment be interesting to see how it pans out why do you think then the most people would think of them is a mortal enemies of bradley defeated churchill. i mean they had their political

battle obviously that they both wanted to be in front and forty five they both wanted to be prime minister but recognized last but they were close and they were. a member they've been the pair of them live in prosecuting the war for four years all of it was together working as a brilliant in. that friendship with. started long before the war it wasn't going to go on down in the hospitals i got people who who are bash across the chamber and often difficult questions and when i was a minister they'd ask me difficult questions that the name of the game ok well i know the papers have been released you voted for terrorism is deal but yet we had the former head of m i six richard dealer former head of all u.k. armed forces would go three saying the deal you voted for would in danger national security un swayed by such eminent people first thing to remember is the role of

passable is to advise legislation in additional check on the executive and a source of expertise is to the house of commons design which we go and use their experience and little bit difficulty in doing that. but our job is once they've made the decision we've got to make sure we make sure that it works that the government's not abusing its powers when we get a set of interment about how we're going to do type approval for when to get a lot of them yes we're going to get a lot of them whether we've got enough time to do them those another matter but we will make sure that it that it works a little girl three zero is your colleague in the lords i know very well and a girl of respect for him i think there's something in what he says in that we don't want to get sucked into european army but not be in the decision making process that is something to be avoided. but clearly post there will have to be a very close acutely defense relationship with you. partners nato is in some difficulties

. and we've got the trump problem. not only because all war all the whole problems we've got the trump problem. which is a nightmare as ambassador london wouldn't describe it as a trump problem would you wouldn't know because he has a point you buy from but trump is quite rightly asking very snotty questions about defense expenditure of the european nation particular germany massive economy but it only spends one percent of g.d.p. on on its own forces well as with. yes of course we cook the books a bit but no doubt they do that as well ok you're going to have to explain to me what a fully formed divisional deployment is that what you've been talking about yes and . i asked the question last week about the capability the u.k. has to deploy division against. division when we cross the start line in iraq was

twenty five thousand people is a huge organization and need a lot of logistics support there are very few countries that can even deploy at brigade strength three to five thousand men. out of country after country we can do it americans can do it the french can do it and he's presumably the chinese and the russians the chinese and russian to the chinese can do whatever they want because they've got the economy to do it but a my concern is that we should be able to deploy at divisional strength against a period going to be a best effort we don't know what week this is we go because we haven't tested it we had last time we had a division deployed for maneuver and deployment very largely fully formed and supported which means through the logistics was nine hundred eighty nine deployed who is the peer opponent that you keep. was mentioned in particular ask yourself if the. it's

a plot way of saying russia is not prepare for war with russia now what we must do is deter any possibility of that occurring so nuclear weapons aren't enough visits and craig bradley former chief of defense stuff made a really important point if you do not have enough conventional capability you mutely trip why is set far too low and therefore if you take the baltic states i'd say the government's policy is absolutely correct we've got relatively small forces we haven't even got brigade but that's all you need. but supposing russia did do something in the baltic states not immediately likely but supposing they did. and we just had to walk away from you couldn't respond we used nuclear weapons i hope i hope you know exactly exactly what but the point is you have to look at this point is that if your conventional capability is too weak

your nuclear threshold is too low i want to get more into the camp sensing of any kind of conflict between the rusher in britain in a second but forces in britain arguably britain has lost the wars in iraq libya afghanistan syria. iraq presumably with maybe afghanistan with the kind of divisional deployment you say is essential but britain has lost every war zone. the difficulty is first of all in in iraq we very successfully got regime to collapse and i took part in the operation and. in early two thousand and three we got the regime to collapse but then we dismantled the security of usually involved than mold it to what we wanted. disbanded the iraqi army and then wonder why the whole place collapsed in afghanistan there's not another horrific bomb this week you know killing i don't know how many obviously there are

no negotiations former enemy. libya a catastrophe in north africa are leading to refugees because the mediterranean and syria clearly this government to resume wanted to overthrow the government of that failed to. but those were operations. first of choice of persons that perhaps if you look to history books should be very cautious about afghanistan on the contrast with the operation military person the book is quite interesting because in the balkans we have had very high nato to densities and therefore the bad guys were absolutely unable to get up to any mischief some say i didn't maybe a ground. compared to the tens of thousands dead or injured from say the war british war in afghanistan and iraq and these are all these other words d.w.p. said twenty one thousand british people were killed or died waiting for welfare in the war fighting at home. the numbers dead there are way bigger here because of

policies like that. than any one kind on potential conflict with russia what we should be doing is russia is deterring them when i voted in the referendum when things are considered what does putin want me to do and i did exactly the opposite you'd want u.k. to leave you so i think i'll vote to remand putin is controlling your. point here and saying that if twenty one thousand people died waiting for claims here the numbers of dead at home caused by economic warfare are far greater than any perceived threat from russia but the snag is we're spending more than double the u.k. defense budget on social security we're spending one hundred thousand million pounds on social security. and yet i still see these people sleeping rough in

westminster tube station but you don't see an economic warfare of home like say a soldier i don't regard that as a cabinet and you know we're not talking about even doubling defense expenditure but a lot of people are coming later saying we should be on three percent well on the recruitment yes at the moment eight thousand two hundred short of the numbers in twenty ten is that clearly young people don't want to join the services you don't think it's because of these failed wars abroad that is not making the severity of the part of the difficulty is that. we're not doing there's a freshens anymore and that is slightly causing the problem with full employment in full employment record levels of employment so it's less attractive to go and join the armed forces also i think. the pain conditions. active so the number of factor. making it difficult to recruit serious or

a problem is recruitment well you talked about that first of all the numbers the other problem of course is that the recruitment. operation is being privatized by capital and given to think will capital have to said put monta they're not the reason they were running into control was the overvotes capita said first thing they were proud of their missions will this not so much the campaign was about ministration and not have one potential officer complained to me about capital and that they'd be in the system at the moment is being good to kill us about. medical conditions particularly. and i complained to the minister level and go to good response and minister on the case and then a few weeks later i had to report a minister privately i got another one almost exactly the same story said the

recruiting mechanism is flawed and there's no doubt about it they must be losing good people because you try and join the armed force and fun it is too difficult get messed around and walk away and be a banker instead but i think it came from the break stories of the so-called zombie government shuffles on off from president scales of defeat form a coalition of office minister norman baker and consultant at the church of the well the mia daily mail and to his tell us what it's that. old is i'm ok i'm about to have going on the ground.

when i came back from iraq now marijuana. cocaine methamphetamine see anything that's altering trying to get us out. that bad mines using a chemical that would be self medicating. i want to be drinking and drinking ino new not just killing myself but. drink to get drunk alcoholics drink to feel normal. that's why it's this way drug addicts do. a shot of us over here star cool i do what these guys are bring through to it it just means to. reduce need to be helped and pushed on by the v.a.'s are as drugs go and stuff they need to be helped. and if they really shouldn't be looked at like numbers they should be looked at by people if they go to a veteran center for health issues be considered as someone who really needs

attention. welcome back you would arguably not know it if you listen to mainstream narratives on t.v. this week the decisions by juries are made that austerity is over and not true according to jeremy corbett all the un but what happens when call been raised as poverty in the house of commons the un rapporteur on poverty says the government did this is a very it's very telling very telling indeed that as soon as i mention the reports of the un rapporteur who said the government was in a state of denial about poverty in britain tory m.p. start during tell that the people queuing up at food banks from a coal bin is anti jewish the leader of the opposition has met and says semitism run riot. i am turning

our eyes weaken our security and our economy was we will never let that happen. corbin arguably explains what the country feels isn't it the case mr speaker that with every other previous prime minister tryst with this kind of defeat last night they would have resigned and the country would be able to choose the government that they want. but elites in britain arguably will do anything to stop germany corbin being prime minister whatever the people think joining me now is drugs are made former home office minister norman baker and consultant editor of the daily mail andrew pierce welcome both of you so i guess and you first why why hasn't she resigned why she wasn't going to promises don't tend to they cling on for dear life and mrs may will cling on for dear life as only she can having said that it's the worst defeat in parliamentary history in ordinary times backbenchers had ministers

would have deserted her but we're not in ordinary times we are so close up now to d.-day a march twenty ninth and if we are going to leave on that day there's simply no time to replace it is it will in ordinary times because they think german kuhlmann will win a general election that will have to be the tenor of the confidence debate this week i don't think many people even on the labor pension seem terribly called when a general election and i'm centers on your behavior when there's a lot of labor peace i spoke to dread the idea of an early chain reaction because they because they don't want him to win because they think he would cause such profound damage to the economy norman time and time again on the confidence and the confidence motion that was we can have a general election because look at jeremy colvin so that's like saying jeremy corbyn would be prime and i think that was a convenience lying to take for those who got deeper worries about their own party as a matter of fact look germany corben a six point behind you pin the polls against some of these ahead we're going to see an impulse but he has been behind us lost over six points behind but in your head right now he's not massively ahead of us ahead in the fences government the most

chaotic can devise to. divided government for ages labor should be ten fifteen twenty points only made up twenty percent last time so the labor always and well it will be a landslide like it the key here is on who is seen as the best prime minister and he is still streets at high treason made arguably the worst minister since the second world war there on your bloody once a second referendum blindly saying it display a majority are you really country saying this would be dangerous for the whole of the idea of democracy in this case what's dangerous for democracy is that we sleep walking into a deal which is possibly worse than your interest you have at the present time which is what. she's having discussions for the m.p.'s now and apparently her red lines are all in place she's not prepared to talk about laying off school fifty should. a referendum she doesn't want a customs union i mean what is she talking about other than trying to persuade people to have had a position adopted but it's been rejected by the most comprehensive vote in parliament in the last hundred years well and what does she mean by negotiating i

wonder jeremy coleman didn't mark and i think if you analyze some of her answers in the commons this week she's left the door ajar for extending article fifty because even if they manage to get a deal through which they can't in its current form there's all sorts of legislation has to go through to so i think almost certainly there's going to be a delay to article fifty however you go to persuade the european union's twenty seven countries there's a cogent reason why it's going to be today and she won't and that's not to be to try to get that deal resold unless of course she comes back from brussels with that piece of paper about that wretched thing called the backstop some form of a legally binding path surely surely the euro crapsey in brussels mrs merkel these countries about to go into recession want to have a deal because it doesn't suit them either your value and your of the negotiator in brussels she she is arguably i go to as good or worse that the main narrative on media here is. corbin should have agreed to give way to theresa may.

and walk in there and start negotiating with her why is it corbin's fault. all day the other day the labor m.p.'s are saying we want to have cross party talks and then the clear him from number ten was given up with him because he says shamelessly opportunistic what lead to the opposition isn't seamus opportunistic that's the job so finally she opens the door and sitting there and says no he should have just gone in even if he only spoke for five and said these are my red lines and it's a gift for the conservative party because the narrative now isn't the worst prime minister since history since records began it's what an earth he said labor party to and he's got profound difficulties behind him when that no confidence debate was going on and michael gove wound up that debate for the government you could see the nice on the labor benches because they know this guy isn't isn't leading them on the europeans here he's just sitting back waiting for the tory government to screw up right they're doing that pretty well so that's not

a very responsible position for the opposition well known we had figures from the d.w.p. that tens of thousands of people have died waiting for welfare how can jeremy cool bill negotiate with a brain minister who's responsible arguably for the deaths of tens of thousand of these strange times and wind up agreeing with you blair which is not something i've normally done. it's a prime minister ask you to come in and talk to you then you do so because because you have to put your position as under says i mean it's just i don't goal of epic proportions but jeremy corbin not to do so the next day is right wing press they couldn't believe their luck called was all over the front pages as a dabbling candidate what actually what should it almost always there to be every day don't let me he left it wide open he should be going in there as yes n.p. did as a lib dems did actually go in and say this is what we want to table i will treat the main or the early them leader get out of the talks with you as well he got credibility by being seen to be responsible and going talking. you know did something strange about the summing up in the no confidence. beach indicating more

serious splits in the labor party was short thought. to the person winding up jeremy corbin would be his great ally the man who's the key to this whole cauldron project john mcdonald shutouts or in fact he was worn down the front page almost as far out if you almost where the speaker sits which was very strange in the debate was wound up by the deputy they believe to. be no supporter of goldman he managed to get through a very clever funny speech that meant the leader of the opposition by name and i just wonder now the cracks between the chart shadow chancellor and the labor leader are beginning to grow and trust me if a leader falls out with his chance or shouting chatter that's got profound issues that it's not about him and resume get on really well they do you work for trey's we have the home office but with the right thing to draw. i mean are you surprised that she's managing to triangulate all the elements in the house of parliament what

recently has been doing throughout has been pretty interesting conservative party first is what just a tightrope between the pressure to relevant on one side and the remaining elements on the other side and the whole thrust of her policy on the go straight to the e.u. has been about the conservative party holding together on the she can't hold together she has for the country she said that you can't hold a recent blog. to go the un completely different you should be in different parties should held together and that's what's driving her but you know the reason may is incapable of listening to other people outside a very you know there's a real you know shouldn't do anybody actually you worked with well you don't listen to the lib dems if she objected to your argument unlike unlike other toe in the home office down the road unlike other dignitaries who recognize what a coalition she wouldn't do that she wouldn't just drone people half the time which dibble to hear them should a tin ear for for other views and she just plow straight on down the track and you know she doesn't let she doesn't learn i mean the catastrophic but last week she

had to change a purpose. and she's trying to just keep the same position going into discussions it's not that i look i have no trees or maybe twenty years and i still don't know anything about her. but i do know one thing she is famously incapable of delegating and it's not just because norman was a lieutenant she wouldn't delegate she doesn't because she doesn't trust people she trusts philip the man from c.n.a. who she's married to and she trusts accept an election officials in a. quite right too he's made money had no problem with that. she doesn't trust ministers because they all want her job and that's part of the problem and there is a bunker now in number ten and it's just a few people in it so i guess predictions are pointless activity. and address i mean we're we're covering austerity more than anything else which is continuing behind the scenes well this is going on away from the actual personalities here i suppose is the end of the conservative party now you know people always say this

about the tory party they weren't so good at this they've not spent since the corn laws in one thousand nine hundred six or whatever every it was they will manage to hold it together because they've got an incredible disciplinary. vision of how to win an election they know if they split that they're out for a generation the split is much more likely to come in my view on the labor benches i think you're going to find people like to muna who once were seen as a future labor leader and are to remain for me a new parliamentary grouping. yeah blairites yeah who facing decent action there was for about three or four labor m.p.'s i don't know what they did in the compensation last week about the whip withdrawn from them they could join this group and that's where the real problems are i know that's not the big story in terms of how we get briggs it through but that's where the splits are more likely to come i still think we're going to leave the european union but i'm no longer convinced it's going to be on march twenty ninth and just review norman as for the remain as you don't think they are being seen more and more as. there leads out of

touch very rich people i think i think people are very keen to present it in that way but i think there are many people who are i mean i've got to get out of people out of super who are taking a whole lot of flak for something she says she believes in but in the public realm whether it's j.k. rounding or whatever it's a very rich people telling britain and they were very rich it was a resolution about how people communicate messages and certainly about the referent two years ago there were the remains campaign communications question was not right and not effective and didn't go to the heart it went to the head rather than the heart and it wasn't in fact you doing is getting worse no it is getting worse but i think there is a need to to make sure that there is a. consideration given to the way that the arguments presented is not to even as effective as it might to be needed in the brain so it would be bigger if there was a second river and i do i think it's possible but i still think that's the right course of action to take we have to look if you don't try barn flat or rent a flat you go to the flat you say i'm interested in this flat i think i'm going to rent this plot and then you get the terms conditions they will use also for the

rooftops for the wall about their next doors cat needs to be fed and you're going to know about that when i want to plot a so you say i want it done condition stable no i don't want to fight anymore so the difference between the principle and approach in detail when you see what the terms are and i think the honest way forward is to have a vote where you present the package that mrs may is negotiated against as i think . it's now you do understand that and it said quite clearly on that piece of propaganda that was pushed through my door and everybody else's door join the referendum a cost of nine million pounds only pushing the case to remain this is a once in a lifetime that the government will support it the lib dems leaders at the time said they would support it they're only doing this because they lost the bad news is they just got to get together and try and make the deal work people don't want a second referendum i.q. and the longer people like tony blair and alastair campbell his henchmen come out saying we should have a second referendum the more the support would drop and your business will break thank you very much and that's if the show we back on monday told the death of news

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