related to the campaign but they're not directly relevant that may be the environment it may be gun control it may be bush and maybe a whole host of different things so you need to be very careful about what you're drawing the lines in and it's top of regulation that you're seeking to impose but also you need to have a level of traceability about where the money is coming from because many election campaigns and here in the u.k. we have tighter rules around campaign spending they do in certain other countries and we don't have pox doing quite the same as you get in america but you need to have a level of traceability on the cost as well and the full the alltel if you would talking about for seven years these are going to apply to political ads in particular richard. listen yeah i think from an advertiser standpoint facebook is money well spent i don't think the advertiser has the concerns about profiling the advertisers getting exactly what every advertiser dreams to get through advertisements of something that's quite targeted where they're actually you know

communicating a message that where the receiver lives whether it's gun control or abortion or whatever the policy my issue might be that moves the voter in the u.s. or or elsewhere. i think frankly in the u.s. i can't speak for broad but i think it's true there too we saw it in france and elsewhere the problem that facebook has is all these fake messages these bots that are being used by the tens of thousands of dot millions fake messages we had somebody in the u.s. basically take a gun across several states to shoot up pizza place because he read something on facebook about a sex slavery ring which was totally fictitious but that person read it and said i thought it was true that to me is a problem facebook has to get to the bottom of and how they do that frankly is a big question yeah that's where i grew to think that's a great point because that's what that's where facebook is being seen as dropping the ball basically because even if you look at the the leading to. saving which was

the decision around political odds here. that is typical of facebook they're shown to any moderation curation to a third party to advertising agencies who will have to take up the kind of the controlling of those ads this isn't happening in facebook this is an a.p.i. so it's a you know it's a way that for people to connect with facebook in order to moderate and control political advertising in a way that they see as far as you know trying to kind of control fakery. online and particularly devastatingly poisonous dangerous. which you mentioned you know the something that facebook is going to struggle with because first of all in the united states you're seeing a big what you're seeing the needle is spinning away from facebook and then consumers are searching in the states which is by far the most developed digital market consumers are starting to lose trust in facebook edelman just published a huge report on just today which is worth well worth a look people are losing trust in social it's performing terribly so from a new publishing point of view as well that's that's going to be

a big problem bill just in the work ahead here facebook is going to use different policies and transparency really specific to a region i suppose on the set up makes perfect sense doesn't each country has its own laws etc and election meddling it's hardly something new why do you think this is only being implemented twenty nineteen. i think facebook up in learning from some of their mistakes and i think they should be applauded for trying to get things right and increasing the level of transparency when it comes to the sort of fake news that you've been talking about if we can increase their level of identity . transparency so that we know who's advertising and we can track where the money is coming from which a part of what. for in many of these regulations then when people do come up with fake ads and when they do it responsibly they can be tracked and traced but obviously this is going to lead to a level of. people try and hide their identity trying to hide the source of the

money and it's going to be an ongoing battle in order to maintain the kind of transparency and. identity identification that was seeking to have here in order to make our elections that much fairer richard one of the one of the big issues here though that's been talked about for some months is. who polices the policeman i said earlier who make sure that fake news is actually fake and not just trying to go on a particular political. position to the detriment of the public. you know in the united states people say under the first amendment the answer to bad speech is good speech not not no speech which is to say. you know if somebody has taken a particular point of view the answer is not to take their ability away to express their point of view but to overwhelm them with a contrary point of view that presumably the speaker says is the right point of

view. look that you've hit the you know you put your finger on the key challenge for facebook or any other regulation of social media is who's the arbiter . but it's not just paid ads and again this this facebook posting that i mentioned earlier about this child sex slavery that was an advertisement all these advertisements that went to voters in key swing states the united states saying that hillary clinton was either sick or bad for black people or this or that to hold down the vote those weren't ads but nevertheless richard it does seem to be on the edges those either left or right wing seem to be getting. pushed really tempered on when it comes to internet policing and they don't have the resources really to challenge the huge behemoths companies on that line so they do not really have to be very very careful about specifying something. being actually

fake news. well i mean you know i'm reminded of. you know rudy giuliani in one of his interviews the with over the past year basically said there is no such thing as truth which frankly was universally derided as a nonsensical point of view there is truth there are facts and it's not we can't give in to the notion that somehow you're entitled to your facts i'm entitled to mine and they may be entirely opposite each other that can't be something that we allow to take hold and the suggestion of your question is you know fake is in the eye of beholder know there are facts we know what's happening with climate change we know what's happening with gun violence and so forth and no nobody is going to basically you know should be allowed to say that a you know scientifically supported point of view is fake you may take issue with it or have a different point of view you want to respond because you're put your finger on something again that's important yeah. i think i think the big challenge here is

literally the volume of information there is absolutely no way you've got all of this volume of posts and outputs and everything can be monitored manually because there simply isn't enough i'm not enough eyeballs to do that and they would be prohibitively expensive and therefore i always being a ploy and at this moment in time it is able to look at the new will of a particular comment to detect whether it is a law i whether it is somewhat full so whether it's totally inaccurate or an insightful is very very difficult and at this moment in time ai simply isn't up to the task. facebook and twitter and other people are trying to improve the efficiency of their algorithms but they have a long way to go and the further they go the more the bad actors are actually going to try and innovate in order to try and beat the algorithms it's going to be a very difficult. giving easy question just this facebook having total control

of political ads go against our freedoms. and i know look look i've no i don't think so when it's their platform you know so i mean of course you know facebook's got to got to engage with you know it's got to it's got to reckon with itself with its own gigantic scale t.v. but let's be if we go back take this back to last year and look at zuckerberg on his apology tour yeah and where he was holed up before conference i can tell you congress i can tell you certainly from running social media out of out of moscow in the six months before the congressional hearings where jack dorsey was brought in and so people wrote in there was an empty chair for google at some stage they didn't make it somehow you know there was there was a very definite change in the air and you could tell that government u.s. government was asking the silicon valley giants some very very serious questions and i think what we're seeing now is some of the responses that have come out from that kind of you know pressure that the silicon valley found itself under richard do behave with organization. i have

a lot of say over for our freedom and should they. well they certainly have. freedom and they have power i would say the problem for regulating legislating about facebook is that we saw this that there's a corporate here it's october hearing at least members of congress were clueless about how facebook functioned remember senator orrin hatch talked about the internet being a bunch of tubes several years ago and it's kind of almost twenty eighteen iteration of that they really just didn't even begin to comprehend how to do it so how do you regulate you might have smart staff and advisors and so forth but the end of the day you're the person voting you're the person speaking you're the person who has to have a point of view and how do you even begin to have that if you really have no clue as to how facebook does what it does if i was to give you the keys to the castle make you c.e.o. of facebook what would you change in what mark zuckerberg is doing. i think they're

making some progress and some credit needs to be given to them for actually seeking to apply transparency and seeking to learn from the lessons and investing enormously in a lot of the eye as they seek to improve it but we simply aren't there yet and they need to do a lot more and the controls that they've had in place in order to protect people's privacy and to act responsibly simply haven't existed. response to the to the early comments about the men appearing in front of inquiries there are some countries take the u.k. for example where facebook and zuckerberg in particular have refused to even appear in front of numerous invitations to stand in front of a parliamentary committee so a long way needs to go in terms of their willingness to stand up and appear before committees across the globe in all the markets that matter and also going to improve the further and to take the steps as they're doing now around transparency if you disagree with any of that richard. no i couldn't agree more i mean i do

think that that's the only way that facebook is going to be reined in and there will be regulations is by forcing zuckerberg and the other executives to frankly come clean i mean even to get to the bottom of what happened in the two thousand and sixteen elections and facebook's what they did or didn't know about the influence of russian authorities to try to bias the outcome of the election we still don't know what what what facebook knew all along and basically thout on and i think the more exposure the more they're required i would frankly if i were the u.k. i would say unless you come testify we're going to really start you know kind of figure out some way taxiing otherwise to basically make this a very painful decision for you so you so you really the better course would be to to come clean ok we'll just leave a final views bill your thoughts finally. facebook live in the all

doing with a not so publisher they also all get it all the time to the not so telco they are a very different beast and i think broadly speaking the regulators in a number of different jurisdictions are coming rapidly to the conclusion that this new era of social media platforms needs to be regulated in its own way and i think we're going to see regulation i think it's a matter of time and i think facebook are going to be forced one way or the other as are all the other social platforms so i actually fall more responsibly and to come clean as your other guest was saying in a way that they haven't done to date and i read this is going nowhere this you know actions like this and whatever type of interference you want to describe it as there's going to be people interested in the outcome it's an issue that's going to grow and grow what would you like to see happen just for you know you know for example at the level of journalism and reporting face because change tack in the coming days the you know there's this money being invested in local journalism so you know you can write up. you've got to you've got to intervene there's no one

silver bullet that's going to solve the problem but you know if you combine the power of the scale and facebook facebook passenger and instagram which are all controlled now and remember that the founders of what's left the group last year the founders of instagram left the group that you wanted all over disputes around monetize ation of data and what to do with them and you were dealing with the biggest business because google but it's a big social media company the world nonsense. books the chief executive officer is all too also the majority shareholder and these are things that for example there's a bigger problem trying to deal with that in the states than there is in europe where they're much more you know inclined to kind of you know look at something like the kind of problem not monopolies point of the excesses and see if it was because worth breaking up but you know on the on the state side of things honestly i don't see a short term solution to the facebook conundrum ok i was waiting for some positive you there it just didn't come richard and we've got fifteen seconds. yes i have my

forecast is the way that facebook is going to be brought to bear. is through litigation somebody like what happened with eighteen t. the big phone try it was that he was broken up in the court because then you had to submit documents submit yourself to testimony under oath if you lied that would be penalties that's the way to facebook i don't think congress frankly has the car acidy to get to the bottom of it in a way that the litigation process does richard thanks for taking the time coming on the show richard goodstein former adviser to the hillary clinton campaign a presidential campaign we also beside him there bill in new privacy activists on technology expert of course beside me in the studio here artie's deputy creative innovations director thank you all gentlemen for a spirited and good of i say. ok we'll be back shortly love and use happening today the big story from afghanistan one hundred

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we're watching closely watching the hawks. seven forty seven here in moscow in the evening this monday welcome back we want to return now to our breaking news from afghanistan a quite extraordinary number of casualties today one hundred twenty six security force members reportedly killed in an attack by the taliban according to reports the taliban struck at a military training center in my doc war doc province an area just south west a munch in this region of kabul we managed to speak just briefly to a local resident. i am from joeys district of my own wardak it was around

six o'clock there was a very big explosion i thought there was an earthquake it was very strong. local reporters phasey told me it's been difficult to get accurate information on the attack but the numbers do look extraordinary. there have been some conflicting reports about the casualty figure because early in the morning local officials announced that the casualty figure was twelve and around thirty others have been wounded but later the government office shows actually were not providing access to journalists to know more about the figure because it was quite a huge blast as we spoke to the locals there the building that was directly attacked by a humvee type of military vehicle packed of explosives partly part of

that was collapsed and many of the intelligence officers and personally who are joining for breakfast actually left on the. remnants of the building and lost lives it was two vehicles and five attackers involved into the attack and the second vehicle was diffused by the security forces but also it took four and a half hours to encounter all the insurgents there then later prevent shell council member claim that more than fifty people have been killed that all of them were the member of the afghan intelligence security forces a source from the ministry of defense told us in a condition of anonymously that the casualty rate is beyond one hundred which is really shocking because it could be the deadliest type of on the n.d.s. or afghan national security services members. right lesser attention

to syria where the u.s. led coalition their house confirmed a convoy carrying both its troops on kurdish militia members has been targeted in a suicide car bomb attack in the northwest of syria information on casualties difficult to verify there as well but no u.s. troops were injured according to coalition officials breaking down in the details for us and what it all means artie's policy or. it certainly seems as if islands is on the rise what we know is that a car bomb exploded near a militia checkpoint as a kurdish led force was accompanying american soldiers close by now we are hearing that five kurdish fighters have been killed this happened in the northwestern syrian town of shabda so far we have heard from a spokesperson for the u.s. led coalition who has said that there are no americans among the casualties we can confirm a combined u.s. and syrian partner force convoy was involved in an apparent vehicle borne

improvised explosive device attack today in syria there were no u.s. casualties we will continue to review the situation and provide updates as appropriate now last week a suicide bomber detonated an explosive vest outside a restaurant in the northern syrian town of man bish and in that explosion there were four american troops who were killed. now this is just yet another attack on kurdish and coalition forces since the american president donald trump made the surprise announcement that he was withdrawing all two thousand american troops from syria in december there was

a phone conversation on sunday between trump and the turkish president added one in which everyone said that the turks were ready to take over security in man bridge now this is fighting the kurds who are the majority in that area and they've been appealing to both the syrian government and russia for support. news site buzz feed is standing by an incendiary report which claims that donald trump instructed his former lawyer to lie to congress about a proposal. business deal in russia the article details on alleged by michael cohen to special counsel robert mueller investigation into election meddling though it was dismissed the story broke in the media as a bombshell moment danielle hawkins breaks it down. it's been a while since we've seen another leak story or accusation linking president trump to the kremlin just about a week or so in fact one of the latest allegations coming from democratic representative eric swalwell telling one of us and we see to add to the mounting

collusion evidence do you believe the president right now has been an agent of the russians yes i i think there is more evidence that he has yes and i think all the arrows point that direction i haven't seen a single piece of evidence that he's not sound like a double negative or logical fallacy to be confused so in the burden of proof upside down being lenient with evidence required to prove guilt or innocence in this case is the latest trend is there even a need to show evidence anymore take the recent buzz feed reports alleging trump ordered his former lawyer michael cohen to lie to congress the evidence being source is news travels fast on the story was jumped on by the media president trump is facing new scrutiny today over a report that he told his personal attorney to lie to congress about his business dealings with russia we have breaking news tonight on the russia investigation here's what buzz feed news is reporting tonight bombshell report coming from buzz feed news president directed his attorney to lie to congress about the moscow tower

project congressional democrats calling for an immediate investigation declaring the trial must be impeached at the story is true special counsel moves office has a reputation for stonewalling questions no comment the most common response sources or not but even they took the highly unusual step of denying the story when pressed buzz feed we're less than clear exactly what evidence there was or even if it had been seen by the report's authors have you seen any of that other corroborating evidence you know i'm going to personally i don't think that we've said that we haven't and your colleagues said on c.n.n. this morning that you were briefed on these documents we say that we we've seen documents we've been briefed on documents we're very confident in our reporting. senator lindsey graham is the latest victim of wildfire news seem to have all begun with a questionable jokey allegation from comedian chelsea handler that graham was the victim of blackmail based on his sexuality it was then taken up by the chairman of

the democratic coalition citing you guessed it an unnamed republican source before going even more mainstream in both media and politics before donald trump got elected lindsey graham called donald trump a racist xenophobe bigot or it could be the donald trump or somebody knows something pretty extreme about lindsey graham they got him a triumphant tweet from representative no more on the latest kremlin compromise i am pretty sure that there is something happening with him based on what evidence what fact that's a remarkable comment to make about a sitting u.s. senator. the the as the evidence really is. present to us it's being presented to us in the way that means as the whirlwind of smoking gun stories leaks from unnamed sources and allegations on collusion intensifies impeachment remains at the forefront of the agenda evidence. that's

a secondary issue. daniel hawkins will political analyst charles or tell believes it's alarming how quickly media spreads that sirius on corroborated accusations. has become a one johnny one note operation they are out to get trump in the main they didn't like the election results they wanted hillary clinton in there they just appear to be a grumpy dissatisfied nonobjective. on a witch hunt here this is not a light accusation came out of a buzz feed this is a very serious accusation it's like crying shouting fire in a crowded theater theater when there's no fire it is amazing to me how much the mainstream press jumped on this story in the last twenty four hours and it's also frankly quite amazing that the special counsel's team has come out to say what is the story's totally bogus it's a busy news day and the deer a cheater is here in three minutes with all the latest updates stay close this is twenty four seven r.t. international.

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