watching closely watching the hawks. following the welcome to cross talk were all things considered i'm peter lavelle buckle up and brace for impact trump introduces star wars two point zero and calls for impeachment russia gate morphs into treason gate. cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark sloboda he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have victor allege he is a political analyst as well as a leading expert at the center for actual politics and we have dmitri bob and she

is a political analyst with international and german cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciated mark let me go to you first hear we're calling this program a star wars two point zero on the back of the release of the missile defense review of two thousand and nineteen how different is this from what was called in the one nine hundred eighty s. under ronald reagan star wars yeah i don't think there is a lot of difference except for maybe the sums of money much sums of money i mean that's been snowballing over time anyway so reagan's strategic defense initiative which. the u.s. spent an enormous amounts of money on and resulted in nothing more than forty four and ground based interceptors in alaska according to the most recent news on coming out of the l.a. times investigations have said thirty four of those probably have faulty circuit boards so not much out of that and the u.s. has spent another three hundred billions and. one hundred eighty three we haven't

they haven't got much the so fort but it makes military contractors really happy but i don't necessarily like star wars two point zero because it's just not trump ask enough i've got a nother branding for you in order for the space force to have a real mission they have to protect a hashtag space war all space for. me you know in researching this. topic and i came across the same numbers as more almost no one mentions a treaty a little known treaty that was signed in. the tenth one thousand nine hundred sixty eight it's closely called the outer space treaty formally treaty on principles governing the activities of states in the exploration and use of outer space including the moon and other celestial bodies which mention the little rising space has been agreed that we wouldn't do that but i don't really think about of course this new initiative would be an egregious. violation of that.

and we have seen essentially ideas of not just in that time but mutation but starting with even the bush administration to withdraw from teachers that were part of the deterrent in the seventy's and then teachers that were already concluded after the end of the cold war or during the final years of peter storrie forms in the us a so so in two thousand and two the bush administration with us from the a.b.m. treaty that was concluded in one thousand seven hundred two for russia it was very obvious that the next step would never be put up maybe in five years maybe in ten years it would be that with their will from the i.m.f. to each year which is what we're seeing today because what did that with it all from the a.b.m. treaty in two thousand to do essentially those positions those bases that the united states constructed in paul and in some other make sure and i mean they can now be used not just for into the listed missile to. but they can also be used to

crowds those intermediate and short range missiles that would have a very short time to fly into russia so russia from that point on from two thousand to two steps asymmetric steps to counter those american initiatives the whole concept of mad mutual assured destruction it is being deconstructed now victor gave a very good menu of all of these agreements that came into effect are being abandoned and we have the new start treaty marked two thousand and twenty one that will come. with no talk about having a new treaty or this looks like the destruction of this principle of mass destruction which would only insure destruction where people should not be deceived by this war happens you know i think president point they're going to say it's a first strike it's all about a first right here on building self himself on his intentions step we call it it.

it's new technology it's ultimately going to be a very very big part of our defense and all of our friends and of quote so and again let's talk about the costs you know to put one kilogram of equipment into space you need to spend at least five thousand dollars and you will need to pull tons songs you know not thousands of all projects which each of them weigh what we could but even if they did all this mark would it work. as absolutely no guarantee that it would work whatsoever first of all i hate to jump on victor right away to sort of back but the outer space treaty does not in any way prevent the militarization of weapon of position in space all it prevents you know you can say that goes against the spirit of it but all it outlaws is putting nuclear or other weapons of mass destruction in the lasers are not these are weapons of these devices robinson. i think it's more that i think it's more than

a quibble ok a bomb could be considered a weapon of mass destruction and has ok i mean if you look at the fine print it's conventional weapons that are allowed to be moved into space but not weapons of mass which we don't know what it was in the user design between the. grid already that you and when it was signed in one thousand nine hundred seven i don't think they could have been visioned any of these type of weapons that are being in the weaponization of space is already happening that you know that the u.s. the u.s. air force and darpa has a secret military space plane the x. thirty seven b. that has spent years in orbit at a time with no exactly what no explanation of what it's doing up there it's well known that nasa is manned space program has been funded right where that was shifted is a military unmanned space program run by darpa the u.s. air force the x. thirty seven b. and this is a very usable unmanned military space plane that has spent years in space and no

one knows what it's doing up there it was launched the last time in september of two thousand and seventeen and it's still up there ok but what's important here is that you know we've discussed here what you can probably get in the mainstream but how is russia you've alluded to it russia and warned that it would asymmetrically respond to this and in this. missile defense review two thousand and nineteen russia is specifically singled out along with china north korea and for some reason . to be john bolton and say they you know called across the aisle make sure you put in iran. the how does this change the security architecture here because it looks like the obvious is a arms race a new one it's actually voices right on point why is it happening right now because basically the bush in. then she used. a strategic defense initiative it worked not

because it was effective as a weapon system in the one thousand each is because it was a boondoggle because it forced into a very expensive arms race and forced the soviet union into some even into some teachers that were probably not very beneficial to moscow. and. now believes that without precedent if it worked then why not try to do the scene again but of course russia understands what happened in the one thousand need to see it knows the consequences very well and this statement that he acted not only is he acting differently but this we want exactly it he acted to clear in the weapons systems including supersonic weapon systems some to repeat those that have extraordinary range are such that the americans say you know what you are going to be on the spot here we had last march president putin during his address to the nation he unveiled a number of weapons systems in your mind are these are friends of weapons or

defense or these are weapons that are needed to assure the mutually. assured destruction. but just. because it's your turn i don't want to turn it around this and the digital distribution for strategic and succeed it but it is what keeps us what keeps peace on this planet to the our don't think it's period i think is just dissuasion because the numbers that we can mention like six may so seven yourselves russia does not want to be able to destroy the united states what russia wants is to have two or three four five missiles that can hit the united states cannot be intercepted no that is a mile which is not you know it is not and that's why russia has an arsenal one of the largest one of the two largest nuclear arsenals in the world to be because if enough people you know want to show you this is a partition of russia. that's one of the two largest nuclear arsenals in the world and why you got it why there's a. should do that because it understands that if the american side if washington

believes that it can destroy russia but at the same time only have several cities to store it then act in doing that didn't intend it so you need a national large enough so that your opponent will not underdogs and now i can once in foreign affairs a couple of years ago about talking thinking the unthinkable of a first strike and it seems to me that this is a movement in that area to echoing what victor just said there where. actually avoiding any kind of damage on the american side where they would be able to destroy the entire arsenal here that is that's that's lunatic thinking but it seems like it's being thought about they're actually both right russia does have an enormously large arsenal but it also wants a select number of small impossible to intercept intercept missiles at the same time and lets the skinny the so this new u.s. missile defense review calls for putting only sensors it doesn't talk about

interceptors at this point in space whose primary purpose will be to detect hypersonic missiles from when they're launched and to try to intercept them at the boost missile stage early in their launch now why did they do this because it's a reaction to russia's and very quietly china's the ploy meant of hypersonic weapons which the us is still ten years behind in that race now why did russia and china build hypersonic missiles because the us unilaterally pulled out of the anti-ballistic missile defense treaty and started put trying to put missile defense all around the world whether it works or not russian military chinese military have to plan ahead on early twenties it will most out of time by this block here with this. shield or wall as you said its space war with that cover all of american allies in the world as well now do you want me to cover all of america if you would that's all you this. billions of dollars and it's kind of like this how do mine you

know really you know there's a lot of national mind with not to support allies an easy eastern europe but only france gentlemen i have to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news stay with us. there's not any left essentially in the earth's mantle i predict as i've said before that was the central banks find it difficult to buy any gold whatsoever they're going to start buying bitcoin demanding that point to their strategic

reserves of course russia's been rumored as a possibly the first to go down this passage we don't know the details but some one of the major central banks will start putting big oil along with gold into their strategic reserves and this will set off a mad scramble for bar gold and it. seems wrong. well we just don't call. me. yet to shape out these days to come out ahead and in gains from it because the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. i've been saying the numbers mean something they matter the u.s. has over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten dollars times happen each day.

eighty five percent of global wealth you long to be rich eight point six percent market saw a thirty percent rise last year some with four hundred to five hundred three per second per second and bitcoin rose to twenty thousand dollars. china is building a two point one billion dollar a i industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only number you need to remember is one one does not show you can't afford to miss the one and only boom but.

i. welcome back to cross talk we're all things considered i'm peter lavelle toronto discussing some real news. ok let me go to demon here you want to finish up our conversation from the first what you thought of all the advice and i think it's important to know that's take the example of i and that you know the allies initially when trump and i was he was walking out of the treaty there was some criticism from germany from process now that surprise surprise there's a there was a meeting over the phone. no there was a sudden transformation and they issued this statement seen russia's violation of their n.f. treaty role to the foundations of affective arms control and undermines the

security side of the tramp is again a nice person with them and that is even though it's written someplace that it was in this new sea despite the fact that a lot of the iranians are tradeoffs will not threaten russia or the united states because it's intermediate range weapons but will make europe targeted to the limit of severing two looks like for germany and a number of other european countries the even when they hear of their own position that's different from fundamentally different from washington's it's washington's line that even. the europeans themselves of course they don't have i think you know i think it's more the international would say you know what hugo basically the european stake their orders from the disciples of obama and hillary clinton and these people i'm sure they're not going to walk in the congress the stop watch they're going to vote for it and the same thing with europe suddenly would have young stoltenberg nato secretary general was critical you know bill has just. days

ago suddenly in december here says there are no new american museums in europe but there are new russian mishaps suddenly russia is part of europe well that's. actually not true and second it doesn't mention that larger is which are prohibited by the treaty u.s. lodgers they advocate for one lodgers they can fire tomahawk cruise missiles or her europe and there's another to get out of there without being one thousand. and it was signed paul it was an ally of the soviet union baltics you could not imagine the baltics would be part of nato they are part of needle but stoltenberg and others if not interesting to do the one of the reasons that's being cited by the time for the new station by the white house for withdrawing from the i.m.f. treaty is that there are new powers like china that have these internet. it's range missiles in that they're not within the within the limits of this teaching but it in fact when they state it was signed in one thousand nine hundred seven before

that for years moscow was telling the united states that and the different powers like france that's right and the united kingdom curiously have a hand they have those intermediate range missiles and bless include them within the hour and have to see what was the action you know so paris and london were saying we have independent. support so it's their fault but it's gone post-surgical because now the russian position is that why don't we have an international agreement for all these other kind of six russia but he did that at that time and now the united states seeing footage of the one and then this we have on one hand we have the cold war architecture of mutually assured destruction which kept the at least the peace at least from a nuclear conflict in the cold war and keeps the peace to all the others and we have the the post there the uni polar moment he was drafted of primacy and that says that usually assured destruction is no longer acceptable and that's what missile defense is all about it's not the idea that the u.s.

can shoot down every russian or chinese missile that of course even the trillions of dollars they'll spend for the space war won't do that but it's about first strike capability to take out not only the political leadership in the cities but most of the nuclear arsenal as well and then the purpose of missile defense is to eliminate the residuals that are fired back the counter force to an acceptable damages to say she's going to be the most likely dr strange that you're going to find all of that is that. creating cheap missiles in numbers with decoys will always be cheaper than missile defense the us proved that during the cold war the a.b.m. treaty of the us unilaterally pulled out of each allowed the soviet union in the us to put up missile defense in one spot the us put it around their nuclear command launch center and right at the soviet union put it around moscow they put sixty

some and so i miss all defense launchers around moscow so what did the us do to counter that they did the same thing they targeted moscow with more than one hundred warheads. using that to pressure to get to pressure they had received because if they ever see believes that. washington for example has the capability to attack without adequate response then you can pressure moscow for example or other powers to do what washington wants them to do it in diplomatic and political military terms and in other terms that's what it's about it's first and foremost ok and this was announced by the trump administration but the trump administration is in a lot of trouble now we had this. buzz feed fake story coming out we had the moeller investigate. people come out and say that was the full story which is remarkable because that's never happened before. we have the government shutdown we have this

confrontation with congress when i was it was all expected here we have the translator interpreter excuse me. the congress wants to tear him under oath here are the wagons being circled around the trumpet ministration now. i mean the whole story with the wall and with these trees and thing it shows how incapable he is more than western that he had any sort of compromise but the same story everywhere with bragg's it and the negotiations between the u.k. and a little bit yes. gas with the i will west now between trump and the chorus and also between drawn and you know the deep state that still wants to impeach him they could not forgive even when we do expect them to do so i mean the french are gems that. they incapability to compromise that was sure by europe and by the united

states and the voice just like a rock in the voice like leave here in the places like syria it is coming back to their internal politics and because asians are just wild i mean like trump says the radio left can never control our borders i will never let it happen who is ready to left nancy pelosi in. the same story where. he is he is a traitor he told put in something and he did believe he should have secret me ok who knows mark and big you both have made predictions whom you go to big to right now. will he survive this unlikely to survive for we talked about this before and infecting peach mint may not be the preferable option to remove him for the american political establishment the certainly do not want a long protracted impeachment process in the cowards then a constitutionally mandated trial in the senate and is not one to sit down quietly

and take it all he is sure to respond in the spawned in all sorts of ways that would be destructive to the american political establishment weekly would be has his own attorney general and what the sequence of events that they would prefer is let is like that what happened to richard nixon where a bipartisan congressional delegation comes to essentially to the oval office to the white house and tells the president that either he goes he quits himself like himself or he will be forced to. and they're much less comfortable conditions and that is what is likely to happen now and that would assume they would be republicans in the senate that would go be part of the. bipartisan an issue to know your peter you were exactly right in there is but there are some political calculations that could make the republicans that you public in maturity in the

senate join the democrats in the house in this white because nerds national security their political calculations to because they know that two thousand and twenty new elections presidential elections are coming in affect their stare at the campaign in stone great now if they believe there is going to be so toxic that it's that he will pull the information that he will pull the party down then they choose to have him be pleased with pounce and go from there are two words for you neo con oh sorry. yeah i mean this is what trump has to keep in facilitating putting them in his administration giving them policy preference to the neocons because there's more than enough neo cons in the senate to defect to the democrats we all know who they are they have already done it to give you an example a little let's say for some reason because there are a lot of good reasons but the reason it's a trump fire is john bolton with be

a trigger for the deep state in their neo-con travelers because essentially that would be a reason that trump is a danger to national security or that we go all the way to there whether what he does or doesn't do it may. make the process quicker faster or slower but it's almost as if he has a terminal illness and yes he can t. he can do chemotherapy and that may prolong the process but the final result is well known i think you the person he had the ministration is experiencing chemotherapy. yeah i'm going to stick my neck out there and disagree for the moment i think that with all these new investigations and indictments that the house to short to launch the mueller probe will be dragged on but it won't cost money in anything that they feel is necessary as long as trump keeps toeing the line on

foreign businesses are you mentioned the miller probably actually dismissed the ports that was bizarre robbery of the reports by why did they do it because by dismissing those reports that it was anyway to come out that those reports were false so the miller investigation actually wanted to increase confidence in its own work by showing that it's sort of interesting if this thing you know says it then it's not biased that's the reason that they actually came out and said this article no it's false it's not true because now they can be now that democrats can see that miller investigation is so i'm biased that it would even go on what i found. was not the buzz feed did this because they have a long history of putting on free news but i thought it was very interesting the speed said they stand behind their story and it's incumbent upon the viewer people do to prove them wrong i thought that was i've never heard of anything quite like your story is that they are really approaching the world in great danger because

all of these back channels which they find and destroy or they pretend to find and destroy they saved humankind several times during the cold war you know the soviet union had these capable and so they in washington non-coding to bring in who when the crisis happened just talk to a few friends in washington he explained to them what moscow is really op do they explain to him how far they can go at that time to end it was not a back channel in effect. by the very idea that if you just drop it right here you are right i got it i got to go guys here this is all going we have a really thanks to my guests here in moscow this is the end of our broadcast segment. stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember crosstalk.

if like there's someone else living inside of me or controlling my body. the byproduct of that drug is the cause like some fear depression. because it literally need him into a zombie it's crazy. you know we don't have to do anything it's not our fault you know she's crazy and all that. the fears of traumatic takes a long time to get rid of. there's not any gold left essentially in the earth's mantle i predict as i've said before that was the central banks find it difficult to buy any gold whatsoever they're going to start buying bitcoin and could point to their strategic reserves of course

russia's been rumored as a possibly the first to go down this passage we don't know the details but some one of the major central banks will start putting big along with gold into their strategic reserves and this will set off a mad scramble for bar gold and it comes. in twenty forty you know bloody revolution of the ukraine the demonstrations going to be relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it still or here i mean your list put video through to me in the new bill is that i knew scrolling needed to the full ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty four. those who took vote had invested over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic.

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