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much more and support this narrative been about equality they quote side they come when it suits their own arguments of their own interests they quote the council of europe when it suits their agenda the agenda of the far right is to discriminate to hate towards a particular community david's court of well known record of targeting just muslims if you look at his twitter feed if you look at his record on the last ten fifteen years he deliberately inflames it's an invasion to against muslims i've never seen anything david said anything positive. ok we're going to be a bit more personal here this one of the gender of the so all right. i'm sorry i'm sorry thanks for the nail on fortunately i'm not going to indulge in the sort of home and abuse that you've just indulged and i'm not going to call names in any regard and i wonder what the other thing is a visitor got a well known record of you the reality is rationed towards minority communities such as you get older your records your curiously your repeating
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a serious even if you're broken it's on your twitter feed stop talking over me it's on your twitter feed he's going to do it if you attack demonize islam and have a feeling it's like it was holy we are here to discuss industry let's not attack much other attack me thank you. thank you and in fact i dislike you to my home but if you're so keen on my twitter line if you if you today check my twitter feed you'll see me recommending a very good pick a very good book by the m.m. of peace mohammad to haiti i'm sure you'd agree with that that's a very prove anything to do spur of the thing i write a murder your actual rights i am wanting to talk. about it on for home no one talking over me traditional tackling talk of the if you're wrong argument we were invited on to talk about the court is well known out here in saying this is. how we get the target to do much community and her hard. please you know if you make this
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person who are here to be seriously issue and landed here i just was yes ok no but david doesn't want to realize how much is because you just want to talk about want to be. what about all of the truth can be avoided the issue that you're invited on and i was i was invited on to talk about it namely this declaration by the european court i'm sorry thought of viruses but i understand why it might do i'm sorry the drill drill if i was an orator males are in the kind sorry that is once a day can for right that's interesting i'm interested in. the same value with any of your is more right it is you've got no argument and you're just in bar you tell me are you want to stop your housing yourself i'm a lawyer i don't know i think you're embarrassed for yourself to talk i think that i think you record as you. do you have rampant islam before you you're just too far along you are aware that isabel in general is the solution. for a moment economy simply differences or to gender the law on the see if we can find
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some semblance of compromise here david i just want to ask you about there was a committee that published the report to the home office they were investigating this their recommendation was that needs to be changes in the law to make sure that . all muslim marriages in the u.k. are registered as a civil registering of them so that then they will have the you know i think something like eighty percent of the cases that come in front of sharia councils relate to divorce or marriage the legal technicalities that they could then have the wives would have the option to go through the typical u.k. courts how would you feel about that that change. well absolutely nail and i mean that is i would think for most people a very reasonable first compromise but in order to protect the rights of muslim women and that's who fundamentally who we're speaking about here before the little
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runt we've just hired to protect their rights this is absolutely a sense of muslim women who will need us support don't let's have muhammad let pardon me. sorry muhammad are you conducting the interview or is named mostly we don't know if you'll let me finish my precious little girl i just i don't know where she is now they don't need you is a spokesperson or a very good feeling should i not come to the minority i mean do you speak for the entire muslim community mohamad when did you get elected to speak for the entire muslim think i'm getting from the release that you have rendered it beyond yourself well i speak for more british people than you perhaps you would like to speak about vibrancy of the people of northern ireland a good thing you represent the best you've not said i don't just and then we agree with it day by day i appear and i don't agree with you do europe you have me agree with the argument no logic let me agree with you no logic let me agree with you you go let me disagree with you let me agree with you in regards to registry and all of muslim women who marry a muslim women who marry abort abroad stories their marriages are recognized and
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you kill a lot of muslim women who marry in the u.k. . civic marriage is not recognized in this obscene censure that they all recognize so they can have recourse to courts but the idea that this sort of things that we see from the council of europe we see it from the far right groups across europe we see it from the likes of tommy robin said we see it from ukip resign from the lives of our race somehow that they are champions champions of muslim women are the right of muslims to practice their faith they just go one agenda which is to demonize the whole community and i think that's being clear in tonight's discussion but also nothing we see here and what of the european union the fundamental point in this right that outlet is really clear this term that many of the point again soon the phone how many regulars here why muslims just know that the only that it makes the brain the brain even. if you just talk over people it's very boring bam it looks like. it's a debate. yes it is
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a debate and i'm very happy to engage on the topic not your pointless ad homonym diversions on the substance here the one simple thing i mean you've just said you agree that muslim ladies in the u.k. who get married should have the same recourse as those from abroad through british courts you just said that so we agree in the butt but let me make it more simple for you isn't the shari'a if we had if we remove shari'a councils because we only should have one jurisdiction in the united kingdom that's british law which is sovereign which is made by the people of the united kingdom and implemented by our courts then there's no problem with tall white country just accept that if you're in britain be subject to not a little question that he had by british judges i'm british people go ahead i'm all ears let me ask you a very simple question what about the altar docs huish community what about their courts. the shin bet call to get here with very much a stupid yes very good it's
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a very stupid question so well done and recognizing what you just asked me because i even everyone did you not did you not here only said the question everybody should be subject to british law it's really simple can you not hear i mean these are problems but you did mention it is difficult for you to understand it you never mention it every day every so. muslim you don't ever mention it you're again this is all point a part of the agenda of the take our on this isn't there how many did demonize. your i'm not very well in a very strong way yet but mohammed who were you who are lethal in the case of the euro and who are those elected who are in it mohammad they would argue all right you are right they must be foreign lover yes i assume according to you likely who are there in the house of lords i'm sorry look if you've already pulled and only come from your home greet people who in front of you and european countries where you where you have put islamophobia discrimination against muslims then clearly the agenda of the law of life more to commend stream in our societies and that's the
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issue yes that's the issue house of yours that i live in commons the media the likes of the defender which david violence has has become mainstream which is the agenda of the far right that's all i'm arguing and if you are superman heard a fiery mire of worry women to have it in the art of the laws then you actually. communities are probably religious courts which you don't do which you don't do equality exist within the sharia law equality exist within so no marry in the state to disown her and i can take it down with you and show you where there is equality judd's going to just think you don't reject a woman if you just bring it back to david because you said she you listen recommendations. home office report yesterday mostly marriages but the same report also says you need to keep shit councils to get rid of that would be a huge mistake are you willing to accept that. yes no i'm not so curate's egg good and parts good bet first step towards at least providing some sort of short
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term equality for muslim women but far better to go the entire way and remove a parallel legal jurisdiction it's incompatible which is what the consul of europe has said it's incompatible with our standards now i want the muslim people contrary to what we've just heard from ahmed i welcome anybody to come into our country who accept or laws bears those laws and in this case we see that shari'ah according to the consulate in europe according to the house of lords according to city can shari'a. councils are incompatible with basic the basic rights of people that's what they have said not my words their words so was everybody out of step what muhammad i guess i'm going in the surgeon's we've only got thirty seconds left final word to mohamed el that is seconds well well let me respond to that and you know some of us have been coming to this country we were born into this country are proud of being equal you might find that funny david but that just shows you the
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type of accent of equality just gotten a lot of the absolute citizen in this country the rule of law is absolute that there is there have to be safeguards in place for people to practice their faith to be able to do that in a civil where like the jewish community do like the muslim community do in other communities do you know the agenda which david has shown tonight just shows you how out of touch is with the rest of the international community gentlemen we are out of time we've really given this in that i go there is a lot of our rationale. going to get i have to thank you very much david vance i little. chief executive of the ramadan foundation i don't know if we paid you for this but whatever it was it probably wasn't enough a really vibrant and gauging conversation many thanks dense. thanks. it was exhausting but thrilling at the same time short break more news coming your way.
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you know world a big part of the movie lot and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smart we need to stop slamming the door on the back and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. in twenty forty you know bloody revolution to the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it still oil here i mean your list with video a clue in the new bill is that i mean you split needle the former ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty fourteen. of those who took the lead
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invested over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. with no make this manufacture consent instant of public wealth. when the ruling classes protect themselves. when the final merry go round lifts only the one percent. can all middle of the room signal. the real news is.
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welcome back the global news network c.n.n. is expanding into new markets it's opening a portuguese language station in brazil but the team is heading up that operation well it's raising quite a few eyebrows. priscilla's
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donald trump extreme views on a variety of things telling a congresswoman she was not pretty enough to really express. like a military dictatorship. this isn't. some people might try to tell you that it's a banana might even start to believe since this is opinion. but it's not. isn't. it up with many thanks c.n.n. and a few hours ago we did try to get a response from the channel to these appointments you've yet to receive a reply. meanwhile another us media outlet buzz feed is again insists that a controversial article that it published is true despite it being branded not
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accurate by the office of special counsel robert muller the story alleged that donald trump ordered his former lawyer to lie to congress about dealings with moscow artie's made against the of explains. tough times if you work at buzz feed lots of criticism abuse the outlets getting these last few days and no it isn't for the post about seventeen adorable cats at work or for their quiz which tells you which muppet you are no one reason is buzz feed's sensational story about trump ordering his lawyer to lie to congress about a proposed trump tower in moscow huge deal this i'm solid my sources are solid this reporting is accurate a bombshell new report from buzz feed news certainly explosive reporting and without question this is a big one it is breaking news perhaps major breaking news thing is if it sounds too
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good to be true it probably is what buzz feed wasn't counting on is robert mueller his team itself publicly dismissing buzz feed's story as nonsense but freeze description of specific statements to the special counsel's office and characterization of documents and testimony of teen boy this office regarding markku cohen's congressional testimony on accurate buzz feed's bad luck didn't then their next one of its journalists after watching a cut clip of an alleged conflict between a bunch of teenagers and the native american man went on a tirade about how white the root cause of evil one theme of the conversations over the past twenty four hours how deeply familiar this look is it's the luke white patriarchy of course but their familiarity that banality is part of what prompts the visceral reaction this isn't spectacular it's life in america once
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again the story fell apart after a full video of the confrontation became available showing that the kids did nothing wrong it wasn't the. harassing people yet they're now getting death threats and that tirade is still up so here have some more authentic buzz feed funny animal pictures none of it all that surprising when you take into account who founded buzz feed jonah peretti founder and c.e.o. and apparently noted fraudster that big obstacle has revealed how mr peretti in two thousand and three stole the identity of a well known gun activist set up a website in his name and sent out hundreds of thousands of emails pretending to be someone he was not in an effort to sway public opinion on gun control in effect
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a massive fake news disinformation campaign he was sued for that and settled eventually. after a year and a half we finally reach a legal settlement peretti also apologized to gold blasts and took down jeff gold black dot com i received an undisclosed monetary settlement or take mr other little stunt detailed in the article this upset some student who had set up a dating website rejection hard line with a similar name to his own dating website rejection live on bread he set up a website legibly for the express purpose of defaming someone ruining a person's reputation emails contained more to pull lies about me and to trade me as an arrogant jerk who was bragging about how i was stole the idea of the new york city rejection line reportedly that website was also shut down as part of the settlement truly the apple didn't fall far from the tree begun by
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a man who seemingly specialized in fake news and disinfo mazen in mobilizing and defaming people buzz feed continues the family tradition of these when it started posting these sixteen adorable pups ok we have we have approached buzz feed for comment yet to get their response. rather british funded integrity initiative which it was claimed in leaked files last year had been conducting anti russia campaigns in europe and it's removed all of its website content now pending an investigation into data theft auntie's donald quarter explains. exposed for spreading propaganda meddling in foreign affairs well you can wipe the slate clean the u.k. based think tank integrity initiative may have done exactly that saying they're just investigating data leaks initial findings indicate that the theft was part of
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a campaign to undermine the work of the integrity initiative in researching publicizing and countering the threat to european democracies from this information and other forms of hybrid warfare we are keen to trace both the source of the hack and the use to which our data some genuine some falsified has been put the leaks started in november after a group of activists dispersed some of the company's private files across the internet they revealed the organization may have been spreading exactly what they claim to oppose propaganda using associates from around europe they allegedly carried out secret anti russia campaigns and smeared opponents of their narrative there's even been speculation the integrity initiatives parent organization institute for statecraft had filed repeated complaints to off com about r t making it more likely for the channel to face punitive action and all that on the british
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government's payroll no less. integrity initiative is conducting its own investigation. and into the breach as justification for wiping its website clean even if there is no foul play in that a couple of things don't really add up for example it's not clear why the think tanks twitter account also turned completely private for hacktivists fiendish to
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get their hands on a couple twitter posts on top of that the mainstream media's coverage on the whole scandal has been mostly deafening silence and those targeted by the integrity initiatives misinformation have a feeling it's not by accident but wonders whether or not all these clusters of journalists who are apparently associated with the integrity initiative has anything to do with it because there are a number of people who would be no problem journalists have been named in the documents which been released one has to ask the question therefore is because of their involvement that they are not. covering this real scandal actually. the turkish president was in moscow today for another round of bilateral talks with putin that as expected focused on the fate of syria following america's pullout and on further reconciliation in the war torn country with more details his auntie's mission auction. and the situation in this country dominated the talks the two
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leaders confirmed speaking at the press conference that followed the talks more precisely its northern region east of the youth rate this we were this is the area where the u.s. troops have been stationed once the out and that is after the interim sudden decision to withdraw our american army from syria these areas will become very vulnerable and the fate of this region in series north will be unclear the question will definitely rise who is going to control it right now if serious kurdish forces are in charge and they are cooperating with official damascus and syrian army regarding this region and let me put it has. said today at the press conference that moscow welcomes and supports these contacts but the problem is that turkey sees most of these forces as terrorists and mr erdogan has read to rated today one more time that turkey is going to protect its safety and its
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mission as a state easier to fight terrorism including isis and y p g a n y p g is exactly one of the kurdish forces in syria's north that is right now in charge of the base region so it's clear that both russia and turkey agree to fight terrorists and to bring stability and peace back to syria at the same time still disagreeing on who eased to be called a terrorist speaking more about that mr ed the gun has said that the crucial thing following us withdrawal from syria is to every a vacuum of legal power. it is critical not to allow a sort of vacuum of power to replace american troops are only aim is to counter terrorists and to clear syria from i so and the white b.g. and terrorist organizations that are trying to undermine our relations with russia
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. speak in a ball to u.s. troops in syria vladimir putin has said that he wants to read to rate this one more time and stress that u.s. army is in syria illegally american muscle regime that what the american military remains on syrian territory illegally there is no ground for their presence sanctioned by international law there is neither illegal invitation from the syrian government nor a decision from the un security council we discussed how the decision of the us to withdraw troops from syria will affect the situation in the country if such plans all implemented this will be a positive step. both that of the gun and putin today rita rated also the afterwards to bring peace to syria. to stabilize the situation there through so-called asked enough for him and we've done so it is clear that other countries are go we need to work together on that but still it's clear that the right disagreements between the parties involved. ok so many big news stories we're
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bringing you over the last i think we all need a break we'll be back in four minutes with headlines the other. we settled for the past couple of years from sea dragon to these islands off there but the reality is the may still be a ship and it is covered in this fine lair of micro plastics. very. interesting. the biggest thing that has shocked me is that we've never had an empty . like the contents of the
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something of an albatross. people obviously come in they just throw them into the water as disposal it may not be harmful for that little fish that eats one fragment a classic but once it makes its way up to us in the food chain it's getting to levels. are harmful. another russia gave bombshell fizzles this time it was post the this prompted the intercept to write beyond buzz feed the ten worst most embarrassing us media failures on the trump russia story this hatred for trump destroyed the profession of journalism. seemed wrong why don't we all just don't hold. any belief yet to shape our disdain comes to educate and in games from an equals betrayal.
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when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. in twenty forty you know bloody revolution here to crack the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it just a lawyer i mean your list put video at three in the new bill is that i live explaining to the former ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty fourteen . those who took the pledge invested over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. i've been saying the numbers mean something they matter the u.s. has over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten white collar crimes happen each
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day. eighty five percent of the global wealth you long to be all for rich eight point six percent market saw thirty percent rise last year some with four hundred to five hundred three per second per second and bitcoin rose to twenty thousand dollars. china is building a two point one billion dollar a i industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only number you need to remember is one one business shows you can't afford to miss the one and only boom bust.
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hundreds of gathered in venezuela both for and against the current government this . decision to recognize the elected opposition leader as the president of venezuela a. french t.v. show tries to teach children how to spot the fake news while also pointing the finger at certain countries leaders and use agencies. they think. it is. often i i'm astonished that the country the other countries are. also an american journalist who was arrested.

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