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seeking to counter the rise of chinese might japan looks to russia to help finally settle post while grudges hoping to result. from nine hundred forty five over an island chain but will japan's american allies look kindly on a g. seven member striking deals with moscow could result in a territorial dispute bring russia closer to japan but even if the politicians do figure it out will the voters let them find a compromise. dr gonzo he called tall go on massacre and former negotiator in the curio islands talk welcome to the show it's really great to have you with us the hottest topic of the day for japan and russia prime minister abbott has sworn on his father's grave to do his best to put an end to the dispute around the cure what do you think has he asked too much on the issue with the potential failure on this front leave to his downfall as the leader of the country do you think he's staked

too much on the issue. as you know travis and president putin may. present a few and far as i. choose the two sites those russian side and the side only see just you being. in pursuing the they will stations. in only fools run through to the other. person oh yes that's really totally acceptable solution and i think the whole the right way of going to go says sure but at this point both russia and japan are stunned in their approaches to the carolus moscow says russia's sovereignty over all four islands is out of question says it would put the results of world war two in question talk yo sees the islands as occupied territories and once the mac well

seems like these are two irreconcilable positions what is the point of this flurry of diplomatic meetings and conferences if the main issues same soon be set in stone for both parties. well the origin up was in the bowls as you have mentioned the nuts really. very each other and distant each other but that's the point of these negotiations both sides are trying to find a mutually acceptable solution and you if you have listened carefully to the outcome of the present of you look both sides have agreed with me they are going to do their best in order to find these mutually acceptable solution i think only i don't have anything let the president the prime minister and the foreign minister and they have. really our best you know that you find these mutually i've said for

the police but also i'm thinking about this issue of the carol islands it's been there for the last seventeen years chance that i says this pay it should be solved now or never but if the two nations manage to coexist through decades without you know settling day out this year why the rush now trying to stop it will get full sixty s continuously send the message this is on the soup weeks you look at isn't putin and myself kind of result if the timing and as you may know mitt romney is the sort of priest of these open your school so he has a right you know he has the power to make consistently decisions and as you mentioned we have been negotiating this fully for so seventy four yes and taking into account of this politician and taking into account the position of the country

it's one way i think this is one of the best way best tiny little. haunting us wealth of info you. opinion polls show that seventy five percent of the japanese would only welcome the peace treaty in japan gets all four islands and in the best case scenario russia is prepared to discuss to saying how the japanese people are all riled up about it what and no deal with russia or better for the general public in japan than a compromise to my knowledge. i mean i'm just. this isn't obvious public statement i know we have to be sued because they're just well suited for us ija know. that this my understanding yeah. how true is only we do not know exactly what the

final solution the final and going to wait. until these three thousand will come out through to lead us. to foreign ministers and their. well let us be. too late be the of of these they will see asians but you could there are the historic value the islands are also just are typically important to russia they work as a buffer between russia and the pacific and for impressions or could have for its access to the ocean what is talk here where to offer to make up all this. you have to know like the secret you know. one by one and see what will be the final outcome and. common sense tells us if you're going to find some solution which will endanger russian security if you listen i don't

think this will come out so the two sides have to come out isolation we don't create these so there are some. security positions that's just common sense and i'm sure i'm supposed to say i will do their best they will they will be able to find the kind of solution i do such as my view so under a treaty with the united states washington has a right to have return bases on japanese territory and an american base on the keralite lands is something russia isn't prepared to get so japan doesn't taint any of the islands how come it balance out russia's security interests with commitments to its alliance with the united states i think you are understanding of this if you think the reason we've just united states is not necessarily. not really. the united states of the security i could be men and young going to discuss without

it already where there are many bases. it does it certainly means up somebody. or. i'm not getting security i mean i. think they have bases wherever they want to they need i'm just and my job and you cite it is up to the negotiations between the pilot and the united states and. if so them through some rule. if i meet on. the basis. if some kind of agreement will be released. by the un the united states will not. they will slowly lose the vote of i remain between the ponderosa reason also based on the c.r. and also based on the structure of the security i mean. common sense i understand

but it doesn't mean much when sad in words also pledges don't mean much in the long term when the russians have learned their lesson with nato so what concrete guarantees can japan provide to moscow to rule out the u.s. presence on carols out of good this is exactly the point the president promised and there. will be discussed i'm saw i'm sure that they will find something especially for my on the basis of research the rest on site by trustworthy you see we talk money you know no outside of the peace treaty that used to be suited based on the mutual confidence mutual trust if trust me look emerged through just. three feet i think it is really difficult to foresee. we'll see a bit of confusion of

a peace treaty and precisely this you soon will enter into the school of the trust we know you're going to create between the two countries. so i remember the last time when japan offered russians a deal with de-militarized island that was in the fifty's he got it states politicians why not been arms and sabotage the negotiations so if the same deal comes on the table now what is stopping the americans to put pressure on talk radio on you know scuttle it again thinking about the situation today. on these other independent. we've failed to secure if you have event we're going to say and we don't think it's fair amount of trust between you know you between each other i am sure i am sure that for me just. because i may. say this peace treaty with russia has vitally important for the nation and

this would create further trust between the ponderosa. oh it will improve. then of the. northeast we will ultimately pretty somebody i'm so. be able to bring somebody from the primary from overseas. and the parents reese right you know in this. complex. they go see. this stuff and we'll find an appropriate. when did the russian japanese rapper put takei in a position to act as a middleman with one last call in washington i don't see you don't expect something . immediate but in the long run in the long.

run will be able to create real relations so for the trust i am strong message we. know this is. more carefree i'm sure the start of the visit. and it's only going to so in the long run well. we may look right well ok so. we'll be able. to roll in all not. because of the united states and russia i am right. let's take a short break right now and we'll be back but i'm back center. discussing the camera lens to speed on whether it's going to be settled any time soon stay with us .

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i we're back with dr. so he could toggle ambassador and former army go shater when a cure relied on stocks talking about this seven decades long dispute and how it can be resolved now in japan and nation without an official standing army now seems to be bolstering its military capabilities do you see a time where it can stand up for its interests on its own without having to rely on the u.s. for its security. do you see any time in the future. well if you look at the. scenes of the structure of the relationship between the united states. i'm sure you can observe the. recent exposures to know sort of standing. right where you can weeks i mean it has made the loss the success. rate would be

supported by those of these people in the know and. maybe. who would be in prison you have to think through media well do you think it's a let me think it's going do you think i shared the news of option off the carrolls islands would work for japan a deal where japanese companies get a special legal status on a russian low one operating on the islands or explore resources jointly with the russians and its formal sovereignty over the islands and matter of principle for japan and the prime minister abbott in getting to the final solution raise and i suspect. that aspect of summer and then it will come to these two or so to deal with silence and that this is a very delicate issue and decided to go seeking but reach there via the resolution on florida. there will be you know it's

a new situation even though it's resonance and japanese have to work straight history on the islands you know hold of the event they have made in the us going into sense the economic aspect of it be my question was i'm sorry to interrupt you dr but my question was a little bit different my question was do you think that japan would agree on this you know joint years of violent shared tears a violent. that man oh. well you know. this well don't use you know really big statement. in the works well little in what respect is worthy. of the fundamentalist. need to cite it. and russia have to do what i have to leave what history on the islands searing as much as possible of interest.

for money which think i agree but all it think that's what will be this is. but look at everything come up but look at it this way look at it this way dr maybe a share of status would mean that japan gets its first in the door and then eventually that would lead to japanese ownership of the carrolls islands like any other seventy years your you i hope you know about a scheme we do not know anything about but i said the floor would be busily aisy holden and i'm still the spirit because it is these may two sides have to work out that kind of the joint operation we would be talking to both i don't understand why you are sort of through it figuring out that's kind of it possible solution which certainly would not be accepted by a long sight we have to work on

a joint activities which will be acceptable to both you have to be realistic only i want to tell you i want to talk about sanctions a little bit because japan's own sanctions on russia are pretty much the most moderate. that are out there do you think they thought between moscow and talk ill to their complete removal or are they so i like enough to not pay attention to them at all well among the six years of the negotiations between of a present to us from you know the very stick because of the sanction issue. first you have to recognize that the despite these times and. now the two sides seems to be very sincere in trying to their best the concluding a peace treaty now if the level of trust will be. enough. after the conclusion of the peace treaty i think.

this is so you're a senior. going over. this isn't. really the level of the trust. problem of. how the will. be left in the decision of the highest level and i know you know of this and who gets through to you well. but you're going to be i just. i just one more question about the sanctions there's another japan as one of the nations that have been exempted from the embargo on iranian oil imports again because of how badly depends on important fuel i guess could it work this same way with the sanctions on russia . i said you know the best decision which will be taken with the level of the trust between russia and height in the region of the peace treaty will be the final

decision to be taken by by this minister and how he will and he will talk be insanely good i make on site you know at least soon left the highest level and i hope that's the reason we look be entirely the same us today but this is maximum i can tell you we have to wait for. the legal system will see when the future earlier in january that was and japanese representative that was prime minister ahmed as a. possible japan russia peace treaty is a means to counter the threat from china so if there is actually a threat from china to japan then should the peace treaty be agreed upon quickly and not get bogged down in a you know hammering over islands but i i do not know exactly the statement you mentioned but. my view my view is that the

relations between china and russia are very important race and for russia and something i certainly know we've mentioned going to some of those. relations. so it is our lessons this time and i'm sure that the russians are not only in division of the two are important the relations with china weeks i happen to have. soon assume this all difficulties if you want but relations between japan and china russia and china are in the experience legal keep race and be so if you think it is in the interest of russia. that doesn't hold. but it will go on but you know the question that the general public here and russia is asking right now because japan and china they have their own island dispute going on but if japan wants

russia to get islands back and enjoy good relations afterwards why doesn't it do the same with a cat who are lands in the south china say that's what people are asking over here . this is views based on the fact. based on let me let me tell you you know this and all the policies through these two countries you . know we are doing our best we don't determine this that these i mean there's some to make my system from price to reach and i remain to be russia and i think this will be good for hans internationally. and i think this will be good for russian even ourselves and the relationship between the ponderosa based on distrust of improving peace treaty will benefit us both you know. we have an entirely different history. but right my friends you know the current

war on at a rate it's the pace of the international relations. while you were reading the piece people cross the room here to reveal certain oh i'm impressed on how. i think. groovy religion and the heart of. all right we're nestor. yes that or thank you very much for your interview thank you for your invaluable in sides on this issue. we're going to wait and see what happens and hopefully both sides will hammer out a deal that is acceptable for the two countries who are talking to a doctor so he could toddle ambassador and former negotiator in the curio island sachs discussing whether moscow and talk can reach a compromise in a decades long dispute that's it for this so there's no soviet coauthors you know.

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