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has been freed after controversial detention on the orders of the u.s. justice department in her first international broadcast interview she joins me now via skype from the u.s. capital muzza thanks so much for being on going underground before we even go towards on earth happen to you i understand you continue just say that people all around the world need to protest the u.s. a so-called legal system. jeffrey absent great to be with you and well when i got out i understood that rally were going to be held in conjunction with demanding my release and what i'm asking people to do definitely continue with those rallies because it's not about most the how it should be it's not about me is about the ability. of. the u.s. basically to. anyone. i would say illegally dealt they are going to say that it's legal so it's much bigger to me we want to demand
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a start to these actions in this country your mother just just to be clear under u.s. law anyone can be arrested who is material in a criminal proceeding and of course the usa not a signatory to the international court in the hague yes exactly as saying that a material witness it is mind boggling that you can be arrest yet detained shall cause not charged with the crime and. wow i definitely saw it firsthand just take us through it then you were i mean you know reunite you with your family but you landed at st louis airport on the thirtieth of january what happened. well actually we were leaving st louis and i had been filming a documentary in st louis that sheen and i was there we my son and i were leaving or attempting to leave st louis to go back to denver where my other two
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kids reside. i was at the gate waiting for my flight. and alice and my name was called to go up to the desk which i went up to and she said to her well you've been i'm selected for early already and i'm like ok and of course i was suspicious let me just say side note that whenever i travel to the united states i am always questioned and whenever i travel domestically inside of the united states if i want to make a divest messick flight i have to be at the airport three to three and a half hours prior to anything like i was even as an item as a u.s. ally and then traveling inside the united states and when we turned the corner there they were waiting and the f.b.i. agent she said. she said my name and she said you are
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being detained and i said am i under arrest and she said yes you are i was flown private plane. to d.c. and then met with a whole lot of that be i take it into the f.b.i. i think take the f.b.i. headquarters. i was. my my picture was taken mug shots they took my d.n.a. with no one has read you the right no one is still you have read you the rights no one ever read me my rights actually my rights were not read. and i said well i protest i don't want to give my d.n.a. but they did take mikey in a day to take my. fingerprints i was held there a while and then transferred to i believe central i'm sorry i don't know the actual names of the facilities that i was taken to i was shackled i heard i mean
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you told them you're a journalist and filmmaker. of course they know why i think investigating black lives matter movement activism in the us well now i mentioned it wasn't let me clarify that it wasn't investigated black white matter i was actually i did a documentary five years ago i've seen. mike brown. death there revisiting st louis city because this coming august will be five years since the killing of mike brown my scarf was taken up where the mug shot and then i could put it i could it back on for that night for you then you took the scarf off you or did they work it off at that place. but ultimately i took it off but in protests because they told me that i must take it or you could phone your family to tell them where you were fortunately my son who was with me
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trying to get on a flight instinct would and he did not get on that flight in denver which which i had told him to the f.b.i. i was with him and accompanied him the whole night. till he was not under arrest but only he com to my kids my other kids and told them that mom's been arrested by the f.b.i. and they're freaking out and trying to iron out where i stand who is where he had her in there if he hadn't been there your children will not lead to just like you disappear. what i realize is how easy it. weren't them to make someone disappear if he was not there anything didn't happen to me no one would have known. where i was and they took my mug shot without jar and one of the guards actually says oh oh would you like a t. shirt at least you can wrap it around your head so we gel with that and then when i
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was going back to be taken. to the other side that women section the guy said ok you have to take that you have this has to go off your head to the t. shirt has to come off your head and i said why and she says because you can't wear that while walking to the how and i said why is nothing is allowed in your head and i said it is allowed it is against the law what you're doing. finally gave me a scarf and that was only because that this time it was that the media pressure because it had gotten out just on this treatment of well in effect the treatment of u.s. muslims in the under the jurisdiction of the f.b.i. a lot of comments around this food question really true that they offered you pork no that was i don't know how that got out about the poor but. they offered me because of course there is a how loud we don't eat just any meat and so what they are for me
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was a bologna sandwich so i'm assuming that that was the by this time there was a lawyer and there was a phone and there was no way there was a court appointed lawyer because i just i mean i want to own it just as i mean for all of you saying where the usa obviously press t.v. the t.v. channel is banned in britain where i'm talking to you from are these are banned in the united states because of the constitution which you presumably are referring to when you talk about the right to practice one's religion what is it about the context obviously of president trump threatening iran with all options on the table what is this context that you found yourself in being detained without your rights being read being told without any charge of course it is the overall relations right between the between iran and the united states and of course with the trumpet ministrations up the ante. in trying to pressure iran it's mind boggling
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it really is mind boggling it is under. leave a bow the nonsense that they can use and take a person's rights away and incarcerate you like this i was at one point in time of sheen i was a suicide watch there which i can tell you i mean i'm thinking wow. what's going on here there was actually a prisoner who was getting out that day and we were sitting together in this one room about to be transferred by shackles to the court and she and i found out i knew that someone had been sitting outside of my cell of the sutton and i was like i don't know what that was about and she says oh no they said that you were on suicide watch that suicide watch. i mean i'm definitely not going to kill myself. i tell you what it concerns me and she because i'm thinking well you know maybe
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they have something up their sleeves here. and i told her she was getting out that day and i said listen is there any way this is my daughter's number this is my daughter's number just give her that information if you can call her that they have me on suicide watch and she knows that i'm not going to kill myself so if anything happens to me it's definitely not from suicide i was treat it like a cry in the middle of prisoners when most of the time i was in solitary i was locked up i couldn't come out they couldn't be close to me so everyone's thinking at oh my god is this woman like a mass murderer or what is going on everyone else the prisoners had to be away from me because i guess they could be harmed by me so many things happened so many things. hopefully we can talk about and later. all right thank you so much thanks so much great talking to you and archie crew there after the break. after fighting
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for britain he is now fighting to stay in britain we speak to the family of a detained british army veteran fighting him in a secret deportation all of them or coming up in part two of going underground. in a world big partisan issue. law and conspiracy it's time to wait to dig deeper to hit the stories that made history media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door. and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. see you are you know more than fifty percent of the day is task your screen in your
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screen is controlling you through this little incentive then hey you know robot on the shelf you know play my favorite song and how that feels like it are so warm inside you know meanwhile your bank accounts being drained by wall street and yours you know your net worth is collapsing in your money's being destroyed and all the relationships are hardly dysfunctional and you're living in a frickin president you have no right to assemble no right to free speech but you're feeling good about it because this is extraordinarily knishes it's subversive it's whole ations it's the state gone amok. like there's someone else living inside of me or controlling my body. the byproduct of. the drug is the cause like severe depression.
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because it will we need him into a zombie it's crazy. you know we don't have to do anything it's not our fault you know she's crazy and all that. took years of traumatic takes a long time to get rid of. i happen to be a nigerian effort to understand what happened here the p.m.c. that came here was not contracted to win the war the p.m.c. that came here was a contract to train a unit and to create from scratch and then to go into combat and the g.p. limited effect.
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welcome back this week british army veteran to a morgan was detained without notice by the u.k. home office following his return from afghanistan fighting a war for britain that left him with serious mental health issues here his family have faced years of uncertainty while he fought to remain in britain i'm joined now by his son ramani ramani mother talia living now and twin sister denise and morgan thanks for coming all of you let's start with you ramani and you know our prime minister round the home office went to the all star environment would you want to say to her about the treatment of your dad. she shouldn't be spinach because office and father should be able to watch their children grow up instead of being sent back to a country that they've got and i want to support them who told you about the news in the past few days when.
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he couldn't get to sleep he was consumed with expecting this none of you know you know and he just went to sign on and they held onto him basically there was no prior notice or anything and this is the third time he's been detained and very worrying for him because every day he goes to sign on his back i don't know what's going to happen today and mentally physically the best missed him up a whole lot his immigration status you don't know what's going to happen everything that's like torture to him every single day you go to sign on you don't know if you're going to come back. and it evens out because we know for what it's really going something yes for. yes every wednesday yes to reporters he was threatened with deportation only as a reporter how does time in the british army affect his mental health i think since him joined in the british army he's he's a changed person because of his p.t.s.d. he's become a shell of himself he says he doesn't socialize he doesn't go anywhere is that he's
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turned into a zombie like person and that's not why i remember growing up he is a totally different person compared to when we were growing up he was jovial he would fill the room with laughter and light anywhere he goes he's a happy go lucky person but now he's a shell of himself are usually directly the change i remember twain coming home crying in distress screaming that knowing i think it was just totally not what he expected he had a dream and a passion in his or which obviously when he got they didn't leave it to work here expected and he started to get on while you start to draw remind he was a very small baby at that point. like you say the crying i remember him being in the bathroom he was due to go back the next day and he was on the floor and he would say no i don't want to. so looking back that was i think the straw of him
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becoming well i think we didn't understand it then you know as we didn't know what mainstream media doesn't really fully explain there is ten thousand wounded british soldiers he saw his best friend blown up so you know these are the things when he's crying at night to me and he will say my you know my best friend and he is seeing some horrendous things that anybody would be afraid of the british military says it has. all the campaigns of. system of recuperation from u.k. military activities abroad. trainers never really had any member had no intervention or support twenty left the army he was just left to fend for himself basically he there was no intervention he had just gotten he had it hard socialising with family friends he would easily get upset cry he would have
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flashbacks and all of that soul he was a culkin well he wasn't coping at all and i think that if he had gotten treatment then and there he would have had a better quality of life and i don't believe all of this would have happened had he had treatment when you first when we do reckon no it's yes and picked up on me. and gave him that one to one or you know a support network around him i believe he would never refer to a release today he did get into into trouble jailed for. that file and of course we know drazen is explicitly said. the abuse of our hospitality as a crime committed this country people should be deported here but we understand that he did the crime and he has done the time for that but my thing is i knew twain before he went in the army and i can hand on heart one and two percent say he would not have community crying if he had had the right support for his men to have
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all this was just left completely shout stop he didn't know you know. obviously the incident happened in got frightened and he really is a sickness serve the time so why do you keep six seven year as we and two manchester we've been saying all along that when we go in when i only saw him that was. when i was pregnant from when i had my daughter so he's going to be a toy they say. to you for the rest. it's not fair it's not right you know it's really it's really sad closeness affected not just him the whole family in these kids is parents his mom his dad because if he feels hurt we feel hurt is that if he gets picked we get picked close where a close knitted family and we really support and care for him and we know that we know the person he was before he joined the army and it's really
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a shame wife always twain was a bad person or whatever reason. i wouldn't have him around you know no one hundred percent. for all of this has happened this is my twain into. the hearing today was not like that and i would not have maintained all through twain struggle with the prison the detention always maintained a relationship with his children always we have pictures go back all the. of all the you know. in these countries there's so many children as far as that don't even want to be around them this man wants to be here for his children and we're not you know it's not been. it's not fair it's not roy and numb concern for a minute she you know these boys always had these daddies lawyer to just come along
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and say no sorry obviously there was a stupid question or where the border means you have his deported to jamaica where he doesn't know any work. i want him to see me because. i did do gymnastics not long ago and i was champion in quite a few events i want him to see me and i want him to see obviously my sisters to grow up as well so i think if he got deported to america it would just the whole family would just be upset and it would be terrible thank you all of you thank you . well you know that's the family of tween morgan and their fears for his imminent deportation i'm joined now by twain's lawyer original kelo and national co-chair of black activist against kut horgan thanks so much for coming on we just heard now that the deportation flight has been arranged for twain ritual but still with you one of your guests just got a message from the office that they've given him
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a flight for the fifteenth of february to deport him to jamaica so that's just while we've been on air here and you can speak to the family we do know that they said chartered flight and they are wanting to get their money's worth so to speak and put people on that flight and so therefore they will be booking people quite quickly and to see who actually gets an injunction to other people or is it true this isn't just one plane for you personally i don't know because my understanding is that there's a charter flight to me normally trying to put a bounty fifty people on that point so they'll be police found in jamaica so it's bound to make it a fight for jamaica was either you've been campaigning hard issues of his charity and or against racism for decades you see this is part of resumes australian vironment absolutely definitely part of the hostile environment what makes it worse is you know with the wind rush scandal as it unfolded last year and got exposed weeping campaigning of course on these issues for years. they shouldn't be any
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charter flight so last year they scheduled a charter flight to jamaica and it didn't go ahead because of the scandal being exposed even though they haven't sorted out any of the details and compensation and scope they shouldn't be any charter flight going so we knew there was a chance of flying from a couple of weeks ago because we know of others who were already detained who'd been booked on to that flight we know what they do is they go for what i would describe as low hanging fruit people that comply with the system signing in regularly you know weekly fortnightly whatever is required of them so they're known . so the home office and they are if it effectively just matching those people even though the flights. with no regard for their personal circumstances or you know what process they're going through at the moment in terms of appeals and so on even though he's allowing for so he fought for this country in afghanistan the rectory you probably use these arguments for your client but as you know and you've
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probably heard it time and time again the british home office now under such a job which controls as foreign nationals who abuse our hospitality by committing crimes in the u.k. should be in no doubt of our determination to deport them and that's something that happens all over the world britain's not exclusive interview gotten foreign national criminals but what we're saying in twain's cases there should be an exception the home office can exercise that discretion that it does have in twain's case he fought for the country he has a family here he has children here he has a partner here he has nobody in jamaica jamaica's a lovely place people can live and do live in jamaica what we're saying in twain's case it's not appropriate to deport him because he just has anybody day he also has close to mattick stress disorder and bipolar and there's nobody there to care for him he needs his family here with him so his human rights are being disproportionately breached by having him removed from the united kingdom zenger. do you think it means a message to all commonwealth soldiers who suffer p.t.s.d.
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and mental health issues fighting in britain's wounds this case i think is definitely a message don't do it because how can he be punished he's got to be it's like a triple punishment isn't it so because he has been to prison he's been punished again so that there has been to prison he should be like any british citizen would go to prison rehabilitate militated be allowed to come back into society and live their life because they've actually served their time and they've had their punishment for the crime the fact is his crime occurred when he's suffering from mental health conditions that were. bolt on by the fact that he served in the british army so it shouldn't be that because he couldn't fulfill the five years which would have allowed him to become a british citizen but he's also been punished again for the fact that he couldn't complete it because of the p.t.s.d. with the job or the home. this judge did acknowledge that i mean yeah i don't do
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it because obviously some of these was a pretty controversial in their. own ways but. is the point that until there's a systemic understanding of the case of your client. this is the danger posed to any commonwealth soldier this is the danger i mean commonwealth countries will release people to come fight in the british army and britain has now decided that they can recruit an unlimited amount of commonwealth so just before there is a limit it goes to show that we do as a country need people to come and fight for us from the commonwealth and i think that there's a public security issue as well if we are going to discourage people from the commonwealth coming from coming to fight for the country and soldiers will be discouraged naturally because if you know that somebody is going to be deported if you know that you're going to go and fight for britain and you run the risk of being deported because you have medical issues then it's going to dissuade you from fighting at all and just very briefly and we have a recruitment shortage in let alone translators scoundrels and all the rest of it
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what happens to train what do you think is going to happen we just spoke to his family support. ultimately we want the home office to defer to planes removal at the moment everything arthur and they have well until somebody on the plane anything can happen you stop wildlife before we stop several flights not have time including twain's previously the home office at the moment carrying out their own medical investigations in respect to twain so how they've come to get in the flights when they're still investigating these mental health issues beggars belief well. what we want is we want the home secretary to respond to twain's case we want the home secretary to respond to commonwealth soldiers around the world and telling them and assuring them that if they come to fight for this country they do not run the risk of being deported as we've seen windrush people can commit criminal offenses and they won't be deported because of the history historic relationship
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that we have with the winter countries and we want the same for come while so which is that they should not run the risk of being deported once they've been paid the ultimate sacrifice for this country rachel thank you very much for the show will keep you updated on twain's case if you track the surge will be back on monday after a very bloody sunday march with the former director of intelligence of the provisional ira until then even touched by social media here monday rebirth gave us a much eight hundred one years since the great red friend since the death of the author of eastern edge in sixteen. and twenty four you know bloody revolution to the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it you know here i mean your list put a pretty good trim in the new bill is that i mean you colonial the former ukrainian
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president recalls the events of twenty four g. and. it invested over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these another call that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. in the united states we proactively require brominated flame retardants to be put into furniture and carpeting among other things and that's resulted in next. greenly higher levels all the little slimmer curtains in the human bodies of americans as opposed to europeans and that ultimately has affected the cognitive outcomes of literally a generation of american children. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy going from day
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shouldn't let it be an arms race to move his arms off and spearing dramatic development only personally i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical darren time to sit down and talk. we settled for the past couple of years come see you back at pitt to look at these islands of caustic but the reality is the may still be a shit and is covered in this fine layer of micro plastics one two three. the biggest thing and it shocked me is that we've never had an empty troll. like the contents of the something of an albatross. people obviously come in they
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just throw them into the water as disposal it may not be harmful for that little fish that eats one fragment a classic but once it makes its way up to us in the food chain it's getting to levels that are harmful. and i'm going to. washington urges the un to recognize that venezuela's self proclaimed. but is met with opposition from russia and venezuela. former president illegitimate mafia state how indeed can any self respecting government possibly justifies supporting the poisonous regime if anything goes their presents the threats of peace the shameless and aggressive actions of the united states and their.

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