talking some real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark slowly he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have victor levitch he's a political analyst as well as a leading expert at the center for actual politics and we have dimitri bobbitt she is a political analyst with sputnik international are gentlemen cross-talk rules and a fact that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it obviously we're going to start out with them as whale and victor i want to be very specific with you what was your reaction when the person goes by the name of elliot abrams was pointed. leader of american foreign policy and the washington consensus apparently to deal with venezuela so even if definitely he has the right credentials to do this is this is somebody who you know and you conservative as with many other in your comments he comes from a family of democrats he was deeply involved in the iran contra affair and in fact

he was convicted of withholding information from the u.s. congress he was pardoned by george h.w. bush later on he was also involved in decision making in the lead to the iraq war and now we see him up when did to deal with the cool essentially according the eight slow moving call in minnesota would you say that he's fluent in regime change definitely he's that person to get to do this. and that them to go in two thousand and two when travis was removed from power for several days and it was a real coup i mean it was. there was no alternative you know leader it was just the army you know trying to of course the department can gradually did the business very well because we want people to find that either he was called panthera carmona he and what's interesting is also here in the colombian embassy

and then he was when the coup field he was transported into book at the into colombia where he is that it's to this day this was a a colombian businessman with ties to the u.s. and he was essentially appointed president by them other little detail they've missed other than has an involvement in dismissing palestinian elections when they didn't go the way that the u.s. wanted back to the elliott abrams goes back to the reagan bush the first administration where he was responsible and overseeing the death squads in guatemala that were. responsible for the genocide got a mile also in latin america by the way also but there are also do as well there are a lot of guatemala specifically just what i'm all of these death squads were responsible for the extermination of two hundred thousand people entire villages wiped off the face of the earth and when confronted about this on charlie rose near the time he

answered. to the accusations of him being a war criminal specific to this he said what would you put all of us who won the cold war on the dock that was his response that's an easy answer for me and a demon in the larger scheme of things. it's quite remarkable how this whole mentality of regime change it fails it fails it fails it fails where they've got it they've got another shot at it here i mean this is built into the foreign policy consensus here there can no can be no other way to deal with the world other than forceful change to all the people who say there should be dire work with washington organise or whatever i can refer them or to the book by jean shop where he actually rolled you know black and white several years ago no we deals with dictators once you start their peroration no negotiations no compromises

and this has been their playbook in in yugoslavia these has been their playbook in libya actually if you remember milosevic and the qaddafi they made the same mistake they believed in the so-called guarantees you know the water is believed that the guarantee is gave to him by richard holbrooke the american diplomat in dayton they need to nail files and then suddenly holbrooke said a few years later the water which can kill his all his own mother all of my got a job he got rid of his weapons of mass as you said it wasn't you that you're going to twenty first agreement with yannick corbett exactly you know i am uncertain ok this is where i want to bring this in here it is it's a very interesting echo of the coup that was played out in two thousand and fourteen on the why don't we in the i.q. picture and so we actually see a repetition of that situation in venezuela where going door to actually saying that he's not twenty four and as with my daughter is that he's demanding is his middle name pushing go to north. shore to us and essentially they're making an ultimatum saying that either might do or agrees to

new elections in the agreement he gets to the to then within these so he has to schedule them within six months six to twelve months and he has to do that within eight days they know full well that he is that is a legitimate leader of israel were elected to illegitimate the. action in fact there were european observers among them from spleen from other countries western countries that have been said they elections were fair in france where and of course they know that he will now they need to this moment you were telling me earlier when you sent me a message about the legality of all this i think it's important maybe to shed light on this here first of all we have i have to correct pronunciation we're talking about the name of this all position candidate who has just been declared president of venezuela it's because the u.s. has that power evidently write. his name as secretary pompei you know specified. national broadcast is good we need.

not guide but who we need so there are we should use the correct us start to talk about that and how it's going to go and talk about the legalities of because i think it's very important yes so the fig leaf for us so-called diplomatic intervention yet another coup attempt in venezuela is as they prompted this puppet guido to to claim article who is the head of the national assembly a body that has been since removed by all powers by the supreme court of venezuela to claim article two thirty three of the venezuelan constitution and this was prompted by pence they directly pushed planned the washington post has revealed this you know that this was secretly planned for a long time they pushed it what if you seized power in this way we will back you so he did right you know this is you know

a clear so article two thirty three of the constitution only addresses when the president is absent from office like if he is physically or mentally incapable if you just disappears and abandons his post. if it does it provides no legal rationale for the u.s. to interpret again visitors is a crane in two thousand and fourteen leaders it was against the constitution or simply has no ability to impeach exactly where you are they can tell you a while in my heart saying you know well michel we stand with the people of business well i needed to remember all these sanctions are demanded and i remember this as i remember exactly how obama said in two thousand and fourteen we stand with the people of ukraine and in three days the terrible civil war started in which ten thousand people were killed he didn't stand with the people of ukraine

but. couple from you know from what that when. people did not receive pensions from the central government in kiev he didn't stand with the people of ukraine when they were born to you know but when you here we stand with the people of something that people he's in trouble so when you saw it is in real trouble we're going to go right now this is the standard of the us regime change play book you. exacerbate and exploit the existing social and political tensions you claim to speak in a monolith of the people the ira we're doing this for the iraqi people for the syrian people for the libyan people for the year many people are. now for the venezuelan people which venezuelan people because the country is divided and you are interested in this is a grievance this coup was preceded by a long preparation by washington and its allies in america so we see now that the

military at the sherry to washington has has switched loyalties but. it's perfectly understandable that the spirit and was in contact with the americans for a long time didn't just happen today or yesterday also remember the series of my daughter the. criticize him. all the blame for economic ills on him and his gun in fact in fact we could see the same stage it being used in chile before one thousand seven hundred thirty before the coup that ousted by the end who died during the cool what did the us and its allies do i started destabilisation a strategy that was a national economic destabilisation were a bit of the worst because it wasn't it wasn't just american sanctions against caracas it was also a stage of economic destabilisation that was put in place to get the kind of me in such a state that they will top that mess as have been his own people would support this

new i'm going to get to the point that the president still they do not and so the venezuelan government has been under illegal unilateral sanctions of the us and its allies for years now dating to the obama's direction ever tightening ever getting better and i'm going to something we're on there of course are getting worse there's the. argument that's being presented oh these sanctions didn't have any effect only targeted sanctions and they conclude completely false these sanctions are all encompassing they have blocked the sale of oil they have seized venezuela's gold and assets in other countries they're now transferring it to their puppet leader it has cost the venezuelan twenty twenty three billion dollars i'm going to we're going to mark rightfully mention that the oil company you know the first thing that the you know if the american so-called president would come to power in caracas the first thing they would do he's proud of it but i think it's going to

get and it would be privatized in the interest of those i mean remove those shareholders would be let's be clear we're going to stay with venezuela venezuela has the world's largest proven reserves reserves more than saudi arabia more than russia we're the united states. three hundred more than three hundred billion barrels of oil right i radically wrong to jump in here jim so we have to go to a short break and after that show break we'll continue our discussion and some real newt stay. i happen to be a nigerian effort to understand what happened here the p.m.c. that came here for small contractors to window wall came here last contractor to

train a unit and to create from scratch and then to go into combat and the g.p. . seemed wrong but i. just don't. get to see a pallet just to come out to. and in. the trail. when something find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground.

politicians do something. they put themselves on the line they get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president i'm sure. some want to. let you go i trust this is what i'm up for three of them all can't be good. i'm interested always in the waters about how. i've been saying the numbers mean something they matter the u.s. has over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten white collar crimes happen each day. eighty five percent of global wealth you longs to be rich eight point six

percent market saw thirty percent minus minus your home with four hundred to five hundred per circuit first second and fifth point rose to twenty thousand dollars. china is building a two point one billion dollar a i industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only number you need to remember is one one business show you can't afford to miss the one and only. welcome back across the uk were all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news.

ok gentlemen so much more to talk about in venezuela put it into a geo political spectrum here because we have china obviously. against a forced change of government invented have been this way with russia is turkey is iran is and many others are not so goes on the pants on the fence ok india is on the fence here. what's the importance to you so there are three different geopolitical reasons for the u.s. to do this first of all the washington establishment basically views venezuela as a ground where cheney's in the russian influence is growing has been growing over the years we need because venezuela need the sovereign choice of dealing with us or cheney is one of the biggest investors in the venezuelan economy and will set to russia is the second biggest investor after china. change investments are much much more. significant than the russian investments so by

promoting their school the you know washington wants to essentially get russian and chinese influence off the continent but in reality he doesn't want the government in latin america to be able to exercise its sovereign powers and this is a look real still. very much in play as we see through these these second level washington wants to reverse the left sort of content in latin america which as you compass believe here because encompassed over the years nicaragua venezuela cuba of course since the sixty's and it has washington has recently had some success in the in salvador were put in lenin mahram appearance they were seriously a person named lenin but who is not not a friend of the left not much of a friend of the west and then there is a third these in which we mentioned just a few seconds ago that will situation if the u.s. begins control of the business will production then it would have more of an

influence on the world will market in general so these are some seen three reasons geopolitical for the us even though a lot of people hope that europe's position will the keys be newest and it is basically their all to meet them the ultimatum that game officially from france and germany but that will be supported supported by the european union is that elections in eight days that's ridiculous. first people in europe these are indeed as they also. name we know he's greedo for them and i think i know why you know there was a guy named agreed to invest their money there the german foreign minister who went to my doc and who supported open to support the protest action against the government will be in two thousand to keep you know that was not interference or that bunch of people just kind of give perspective here so when there was the legal coup in kiev in two thousand and fourteen the european union didn't say we need

elections and eight days well if you are it also the home which is the european union commented on the yellow vests in france let's let me be very very concerned about the people it is way let me remind you that there was a deal signed by your definition of that the elections will be held in eighteen months and then you the european union completely forgot that for the next the next time they send it to the co-op because they are guys to come by force they took that headquarters of the popular region set it on fire and several people in sight and the european european union said this is the will of the people with controversy let's elections because whenever they want and it's rather just several people who knows and i am going to be in more than accommodating and then you are. in these the european union was actually more active in kiev than the united states because the united states was represented by victoria nuland who was just a tad avant of that but you want your distance driving the same do you want to

build a bridge that i need or best of any i think venice what's going on inside venezuela for a little bit which is this i think the venezuelan government should accept the call for new elections right after france has new elections because of the yellow protest movement and the u.k. has new elections because of the on elected prime minister may's incompetence and historic military could start a series of brakes. both to you know and you know why why stop at another one eleanor hall figured out for us it was deceived additional chavez was genuinely popular in venice and i don't know how to know no question about that maduro came to power with impetus from chavez but. event as well as economic problems since including the saudi oil price war on russia and iran which saudi last blinked but also had a devastating bonus effect for the u.s. on within israel also the effect of the sanctions so is not actually extremely

popular in the country but here's the thing there's the us is selling a scam presenting this violent opposition or they've participated in multiple assassination attempts coups burning of chavez does in the streets and so on. it has more than a seventy percent disapproval rating in the country by venezuela and its opposition's own poll and they are not be a unified group was there i want to say something that i think it's important here . venezuela has a big corruption problem too ok the allocation of government funds is not the best for your system to look at is what i was going to run it in the same paul they asked the question what is the primary concern of the venezuelan people more than sixty percent said the economy less than four percent said corruption so again we see this replay of corruption is a call to really good government if we're going to move it. is dysfunctional in

many ways because they will give you the it's up to it's up to the venezuelan people you say that if you think you know the fact that they're for more than half of americans don't have ten thousand dollars in their bank account the fact that millions of americans live paycheck to paycheck doesn't give anyone the right to decide you know they're going to just say you know american. elections are politics and the americans have no right to interfere in the domestic affairs of dinners or any other kind of the way he does where last minute it is really don't want to talk about roger stone well it was a great suggestion from the russian prime minister material what would happen if they had the states off to seen their you know the confrontation. and. basically given in someone that from russia someone from caracas would see drawn you're incompetent then stupid was what they were couldn't really. pronounce her name but she's better than you know what would be the reaction of the united states nancy

pelosi is name is already been mentioned in our conversation here on her website and i'm talking about the recent indictment and arrest and indictment of roger stone. a political trickster by whose own definition and a confidant of one degree or another with donald. this is what nancy's reaction to the indictments were the indictment of roger stone makes clear that there was a deliberate coordinated tempted by by top trump campaign officials to influence the two thousand and sixteen election then to subvert the will of the american people that's right trump's orbit wanted him to win the presidency what you're playing is what it's all about here a picture of your reaction here because all of the indictments come up with or either before so called collusion or process crimes as a result of the investigation itself and this is exactly what i was with roger

stone none of the charges deal with. none of the charges deal with dealing with foreign actors all the charges deal with obstruction of justice and other related so-called crimes the other thing to do what you do for here is the way he was actually arrested it's a pretty dawn raid these i can't use any other. phrase than jack booted thugs this is a massive operation this is that's why this is a sixty six soon to be sixty seven year old man or you are just want to stick weapons and body armor were necessary this is six am six am sixty six year old man who is not going to run anywhere so they surrounded the surround of his house he ran up to c.n.n. got it all remarkably here and see their claims that they didn't care i want to see a lot of their names but you know if you've been watching roger stone's public

appearances over the last particular last few months he was waiting to be and he was waiting ok and all he needed to do have his lawyer have the authorities contact his lawyer he would have showed up in the courthouse well probably he just wanted to be in the news but i like the c.n.n. you know they have that story. why it was so dangerous why we're here today that well that's because. it was killed candidate ralph said during his campaign enjoyed the thousand and sixteen rush if you are listening i hope you are able to find the thirty thousand e-mails that are missing from mrs clinton. so you know see and then seriously writes that it's not immediately clear if storm was. acting on his own or he was spurred and the russian spy gear was spurred by drums horns you want to believe it was a little social for you. but the left doesn't have any humor and. picture here i

mean what use is very he's a braggart he's boastful and he's very self-centered of course we've been watching this for years here but there is in looking at the indictment it looks like miller says writing the story ends things that are have not been confirmed the whole the whole role that we played in this and their relationship with trump none of that is really good but it's it's alleged in assumed in the indictment why it has archer stone been charged where has he been arrested and put through the process there and because the other things that roger stone he can flip him he can force him to flip and say things that he needs to say guess that he doesn't care but i just don't just like he didn't really care about paul and the fourth even though judge one of the judges and then when the fourth there are six you know we've all said that you know you don't really care about mr man afford it it's time for you're going to athletics or anything else where and but when of course he apparently this but he couldn't get what he wanted for a minute for that's why he gets charged when

a court with lying and he has tried to get get the settlement deal blocked now because he didn't get many for it didn't say what he wanted him to say no it doesn't really want that because we were once with he wants to get stumped you got it ok we've run out of time here many thanks to my guest here in moscow this is the end of our. cast segment stay with us for the expanded version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember. u.s. veterans who come back from war often tell the same stories. were going after the people who were killing civilians they were not interested in the wellbeing of their own soldiers either there already is several generations of them so i just

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