potential partner china china has always opposed the principle of interference in other countries internal affairs and opposes foreign interference in venezuela's affairs and that other nuclear power russia what you're doing is not called prevention it's called incitement how would you feel if the russian federation proposed to discuss on the security council the issue of the situation in france and the protests. on just over the past weekend some twenty two thousand people it took to the streets the russian envoy went on to garman the nerves in paris of a moscow military intervention but other nations an alternate off by superpowers britain's closest ally the usa has been involved in coups and the backing of death squads in argentina brazil chile costa rica el salvador guatemala nicaragua panama paraguayan peru your guide to name a few as a revolutionary revered around the world che guevara said before he was gunned down by u.s. backed soldiers as the earth was nearly destroyed the record also great. i

read i mean i look at people that are out of my and out there. and if. you're out there early on while it's probably off you want to. tell us about any act. you want to you know. equal more than a tool it's a little. shake of our of their affirming the u.n. charter well joining me now is the labor m.p. for del b. north who in the house of commons this week which is the first you have to visit venezuela in twenty one years you said u.s. sanctions could be crimes against humanity chris williams welcome to the program i know you were to debate in the past twenty four hours on venezuela first your reaction to washington recognizing carlos vecchio is the new venezuelan charge a fair. dc's wanted apparently rivers weather for us and so i would have financing

of terrorism or some of the shocking revelation and it goes in tandem with john bolton's. no no it's absolutely five thousand and fifty the pentagon is now saying distance and well let's wait and see i mean i think it's pretty clear that administration is seeking regime change in venezuela we know it's got the biggest oil reserves in the world and they want to get their sticky fingers all mud don't they what they could not tolerate is a socialist government under hugo chavez actually using the oil reserves for the benefits of ordinary people i'm a huge advances i remember huge reductions in poverty groups in housing and health care and of course they are eradicated illiteracy i think it was long ago as two thousand and five there is a massive crisis in the country right now and indeed i think the madeira governments have made a number of wrong turns i mean i'm not going to kind of defend them where they where they've made mistakes and they clearly have you know exceeded the sorts of powers in some respects in terms of the violence which has been meted out against

as you just on that why do you think your opposition to major nation intervention in nations like venezuela automatically means that. the media that the politicians say well that means you must be a majority support well it's absurd i mean look i recognize a huge advances that have been made you know by the government there and they're wondering credible pressure ever since barack obama signed the executive order claiming that venezuela pose an extraordinary threat to the national security of the united states of america is an absurd notion but of course not then preserve the sanctions and that was coupled with the economic sabotage by the elites inside venezuela of course that was then in tandem with the extreme violence on the streets in venezuela let's also remember that there is a budget line in the in the in the federal budget of the united states to actually finance the right wing opposition in venezuela and you know it's incredibly concerning i think to see a superpower like the united states going to. throwing its weight around him in

that way and what is even worse is to see the british government acting as donald trump's poodle what i've called for is for the u.k. to use its good offices to urge both sides of venezuela to do you know to come together to have talks to reach a negotiated settlement what we cannot tolerate in my opinion is external intervention of the states or any other western power for that matter we've seen where they sense in the past haven't we both on the continents of latin america and elsewhere in the world going back as far as you know in to in brazil in the ninety's sixty's chile you know when they overthrew ending the very self same tactics which are being used against venezuela today were used against chile this is the same old playbook and you know it always ends in a disaster and i'm not saying you know clearly there must be problems right now but i tell you what they could get a hell of a lot worse and what we could end up with is a bloody civil war bloody civil war actually with u.s. ground troops involved in that and you know i've just been watching full enough a documentary about the you know the vietnam war and the horrendous casualty list

that actually resulted in and you know being alone could order that in because as i say. the acting pentagon boss is saying he hadn't discussed it with john bolton national security advisor the five thousand troops in his folder that he showed to the press but the venezuelan government for its part is saying they have a half a million soldiers were absolutely look i mean let's see what happens let's hope they don't and i hope that you know wise heads will prevail and this is where i think you know rather than you know the u.k. it's you know u.s. is closest ally should leave kind of beating the drums of war they should be urging caution you know where that ended in iraq didn't weigh all the foreign secretary jeremy hunt as cleary's as the elections i know observed by three hundred international observers as fair they were unfair and therefore i don't know and we don't know of this special forces from britain in place of it that's very clear and frankly you were virtually alone. involvement this week speaking of the way you

were just speaking to me what does it feel like to be completely alone in the commons laufer isolated i've got to say i mean i was on both sides of the chamber which is very regrettable i must say to you know here you know colleagues actually you know speaking in these terms as if you know they just simply accept everything that is being said all the propaganda and as i've already said look i'm not here is an apologist for the for the moderate government they do it's they dish out to john to the john mcdonogh lens other sectors. oh yes i was a letter this way didn't really say ng very much so it depends no intervention but just on the point in relation to the election which is allegations that he didn't just come from a debate yesterday in relation to that that one of the things in terms of the situation in venezuela one of things they were claiming there was in of the election was rigged but i've spoken to election observers who were there and they said it's impossible to rig the elections in venezuela because every vote which is cast has to be twinned with voter id in a fingerprint of the voter. jimmy carter himself his election observatory in

previous elections a bitterly not this one has said that the election process in venezuela is the safest anywhere in the world better have been some criticisms of the election process this time around but it's important also thing to remember that the opposition players who did for the actual the last section of the opposition boycotted the presidential elections but those that did oppose murderer they were able to come pain openly and they accepted julio sayings or accepted the outcome of the election when he was asked that very question at a press conference with one of the election observers asking the question do you accept it and he did and now we're suddenly told you know the elections were a little illegitimate i think there was that was on video we've actually spoken to a official election observer of this program who said much the same but what was this debate in the first twenty four hours was ivan duncan there are acting going on boy absolutely and he was again indulging in the you know the bellicose rhetoric he was with michael. peo and the russian envoy in journeys of oil on sunday at the

u.n. security made reference to that and you know it was it was very bombastic very bellicose very personal rude about me personally said i was vying to be the most hated man in parliament as well as the most hated man in venezuela for basically standing up for you know decently you were a democracy i was yes at least in observing he said he said in bollywood on monday to you in parliament i'm astonished he's even prepared to show his face in this house the house of commons today or why did he saying that well because i'm basically challenging the narrative the he is putting forward the government is putting forward and for somebody who claims to support democracy to suggest to a fellow parliamentarian that i should be ashamed of showing my face in the mother of parliaments democratic outrage and other democratic oh well there is a difference there we are ok well the bank of england before goldman sachs bank of marconi he is refusing to give the venezuelan government its gold reserves back at

the amazing it's up to the bank of england who they want to give or take gold from what do you think about the legitimacy of the bank of in-state theft. unacceptable and cannot be allowed to stand in my opinion i mean you know we talk about a sovereign nation here yes it's got its massive problems these problems have been exacerbated for the reasons i've already outlined but that does not justify taking this sort of action because that is only going to compound the problems and also points does it not towards the very real drive towards regime change to get their hands on the oil and then what we will see is potentially wholesale privatization and then we'll be back to potentially where we were before hugo chavez came to power in nineteen ninety eight ninety nine i believe it was and then we saw you know that pink tide the democratic bolivarian revolution which swept the continent i'm a huge improvements in the standard of living and quality of life for ordinary people

across the continent of it as well let's also remember that near liberalism was imposed at the point of a gun it from chile chile and on words and a bit by the time that chavez came into office i think it's around about forty percent of latin americans or more were living in abject poverty. it does not work new liberalism is anathema and you know we have to resist it we have to stand up for democracy and decency and call for calm heads in this situation who would say i just think this situation could really escalate very very quickly all tourism a deadly things one great who is the. one way to even stand in the election again so there are polls eighty one percent of him as well as have never heard of him why do you think tourism is a bit of them well that's that's a good question isn't it clearly that it seems they've been in discussions haven't they and it seems that he is a useful puppet potentially you know for the for the u.s. to enable them to you know bring about the regime change that they want to do in

order to get on to get their hands on the keep referencing the oil reserves of the of the country i mean if we had didn't have these sanctions on the country if we had a situation where you know the states of u.k. and other or the western powers were you know working in collaboration with the venezuelan government then we could eliminate the shortages we could start to see once again as we were seeing the shadows the significant improvements in the standard of living and the quality of life are on the phone as well and people in that you know. they speak with forked tongue in my opinion those who are claiming to you know be concerned about the plight of poor venezuelans because what they are doing they are they are taking supporting a path that will impoverish and potentially cost the lives of hundreds of thousands if not millions of venezuelans unless as i've said comments don't prevail just finally very briefly you surely can agree with trump though that everyone needs now needs to pick a side well i don't like that kind of rhetoric frankly the side i'm picking is the

side of the venezuelan people the side of decency this on the side of fairness rather than the side of neo liberalism which is what he seems to be beside he seems to be picking this was a thank you. after the break the tummy turns to the school. we go political drilling with the rapper who falls to labor m.p. to apologize for attacking our leader jeremy corbett coming up a bunch of going on the ground. and i mean i didn't know you know you're. on t.v. it's one of. those whom you know most of the best to be in your years and you know it was notable just a very good month but really you know. please don't leave the ways that i did my best to you guys in the white. people. use them yes this is.

one of those. should be the school get minutes i know you're even close to. one else seemed wrong but old old just don't call. me old but you get to say proud just a constant that's a cool and gains from an equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. but you're right the stand here hamas and.

iran are on the right track there are rather rough it out for more than i care the . only. question that you can keep and. i have through all. that make up. its whole form. i knew you didn't pay i think time in syria said the british. from my law for them after the gulf war fucked around with mr hate for jim

and then i hope that our friends in the car. welcome back given the responsibility for social violence that some brokers cheers allege should the berlin philharmonic be arrested for performing beethoven's ode to joy the e.u. anthem because in the south of the british capital two musicians can go and am have been given suspended prison sentences for performing drill music here is what the boss of britain's biggest police force thinks of drill gangs who make drill videos and in those videos they taunt each other and say what they're going to say to each other and of specifically what they are going to do to. my question to you and your next guy i will say nic i'm coming after you this week in st speak but from one hundred twenty thousand people are. portably dying due to u.k. austerity policies to british backed bombs dropping on school buses in yemen it's arguably politicians that cause the most violence i will not rest until she is

chopped up in bags in my freezer and i will knife you in the back i'll knife you in the front these are not the words of rappers calling for violence on the streets but public statements from politicians rapper drilled minister took the words and put the digital music to expose hypocrisy that is seen videos pulled from youtube and rappers banned from performing he joins me now julie welcome to going on the ground tell me about why you want to run for mayor of greenwich famous all around the world for a time i believe that people are ready for. a change and i believe people are ready for someone who generally cares about the environment in their community and this is taking part in that community i think we're ready for that change and i believe that change this time that we're living in we're never going to be in this time again disparate situation isn't going to come again these referendums and talks of referendums this a happening again to people empowered to main thing i want to put the main message

i want to get out there the people in power all right now they are a generation that have messed up of the entire history of politicians in this country there's never been a message like this do not put your faith in these people if we don't come together with our own personal people's was solved you will find yourself living in greece none of these politicians. as of may the world of god so you are they are more than six hours a good body but in terms of running a good country i don't know about the way the president has metropolitan police force the largest police was in this country says that it's huge you that has to take the drill music videos to save society superintendent mike west a number of videos inciting violence have been taken down it's the kind of music you make. more dangerous than anything they might say i think this is where we start going into judged territory. we stop in labels expression is these are people

young children young or is lot more so young my peers people whose parents are on crack they're speaking their experiences so are they to be silenced because their parents on crack and not speak about this i do not submit to talk about how did the universe is the colleges the phone them are without any indication of what their future is going to be at a moment to talk on their experiences where does this stop come from. who's authorized to stop had to live in the same life for the people that they chastise and that's what we really need to ask ourselves that's what disturbs me is your deal if you're stopping young men from being able to told their experiences and get their family of a situation that the government placed me in with a steri cause that n.h.s. situations where education is not open to them you don't talk about that the government will talk about that but what you want to talk about is money put in literature shakespeare put in poems to give all i'm making and now if only you cheap you want to ban that artistic right come on man this country is going to

portman come and look at the grand event as it was something like i can never in the usa which is a constitution we we don't have one but then so you are contending that it is about class a lot of your tracks and all your music it is to us because i have to say these politicians would say the reason all those cuts need to be made was that we could pay off the losses of the bankers and while we let's put it this way mark my grandmother or as lived in this country for over fifty years and paid taxes over fifty years in britain and pay taxes she lost out her entire fortune or whatever issue had saved for those years when the financial crash happened she lost everything. so why would that same woman after fifty years of contributing to was disappointing me be blamed and have to be the person that bails out these very same bankers that did this to us does that make any sense in the in in the world we're living in but this is what the politicians. explained is just what the politicians

are telling us to pay for other people's mistakes and then we should feel. great food that there's even a little bit of extra change benefits and little things here and there that we should be grateful for. and bailed out because of was a build up nothing was going to build out she's into areas that they don't care for she don't even can literally in the past week was a scandal and i am just being given suspended sentences said to have performed drill music which incited violence they breach an injunction on being a member of a gang would have you make of this scandal and i am from london here nice to you but just to the old toughness for ever and hold it a minute or two at a party trying to make good like the rest of us trying to make some benefit if i'm here if them were from oxford and cambridge making the same music about their environment would the police be putting this on them. you can't blame people for

where their parents decided to grow their mark they're talking the experiences of what happens on their road if you want to make a difference to reason me. michael gove all of you people don't understand how this works why don't you take yourselves to a celebrity get me out of here come live in south london in the books we demand them for a year on the same universal credit that you dishing out and filming let it be seen live let's go and am and then attempt to go to the studio and make a song and i would love to see what these people will come out with i'm sure it won't be about national treasury and it won't be about the n.h.s. and they'll be talking about wow i saw a crack at today he offered me his boxer shorts you're going to see things to squander my pride the prostitutes eleven o'clock who are selling their body to feed their children that's what you going to be seen in the areas this is what men see daily this is what the government don't want to talk about because you want to pretend that these things don't exist but i see the woman said in

a body every night before i go home when i go to put my letter she's day on the corner because she needs to feed her kids and there is no universal credit so in that movie the lady particularly your lyrics are focused on universal credit the new welfare people jennifer says credit is messing up the hood you can implement something that you wanted used for gentrification money is not the minute you want all of these new immigrant dons all of these new people that you think are not the first tier of economy in london to be out of london you're trying to move man to burma nums both the hamptons these next dover's these next outskirts quickly places and you want money out of the big sea even when i'm out berman is a little pools your way of managing to do this is to raise up the price of the housing given to see make bad people outside of big european investors big american investors to come buy the property the house rents of the london stock the house rent of london standard and then basically you're given people the cine of council or your team to put universe. credit you give your pay for some of their subsidiary

of their rent what you're doing is giving people that don't have any clue about money management haven't been in employment for a while i thousand pounds in their account who haven't had a thousand pounds for maybe three four years given to me in one lump sum what they do in campbell in going back and shop doing this people of got bad habits people go back to british especially in the hood what it in comes out to rent they got the rent one spender and own clothes because you just are the first as a pound for the first time you have a look did the government knows you going to do this because they say out like this once you start doing this boom boom boom you start spending of your rent before you know your three months over the rent and you get evicted once you're if it did not they can now sell off that place of being a council property and it's more private investment that no longer is council form the council the have to reality there and we've got to outskirts that place now gets re re put into the system now that the property price goes up and some next guy from lithuania buys the place no you see that's how they're doing this thing

that's not a game with them and that's why i say university is the death of one of your tracks you're accusing them of having blood on their blood in their hands and for how many to much blood is there on that and these man's hands these men are talking about drew boy into who didn't stab wounds these men are set in multiple arms killing people all around the world theresa may does that daily it's not to say there are every single bombing man that's the she should be going to sleep and you have nightmares about it because it does how decisions get made every day it's not an easy decision but at the end of the day it is blood in your hands you can't deny that someone's child some ways they can bury because it's a reason why today i'm going to deny that one going to tell me to a mosquito of got what more babies hands blood in their hands you know i go i go i don't believe it said hey amos can do it got no more babies blood in their hands but reason made those but she's able to chastise them what world does that make sense to reason maybe you are a wasteland out west man a big waste man and it's just not. he said right now i don't know what madam i did

it because all i'm seeing is michael goldthwaite's man starts a wasteland tourism a wasteland that's what i'm seeing and the man i want to tell you some different different focus on different and gentlemen is to thank you and joel minister will be playing us out with his song northern irish backstop as mixtape as it's gangs is out soon and that's if the show will be back on saturday with award winning comedian radio host jimmy dory to joke about neo liberal politicians calling for a venezuelan coup in the name of democracy until then can be judged by social media see on saturday twenty years to the day ago chavez was sworn in as president of venezuela his job minister with northern irish back still. to be change. gave us a good referendum. as they did in the table to. resent it it did tilt support of the. times. not how many

times. you go not come but it sounds a bit go to the bottom paul says see no change to the subject want to move on c.b.s. me no face that tom returned to the screen for a suplex not mean to see me not a photo so much dreams which may have to vote but if you were to do it at the street backbenches could you repeat just these eight three to no punches agendas that's a trip down process for that don't smoke if you eat your movements that's my cool to pick even just a reason to get a sense who's to tell it if you would stick it could be for to be treated actually fronts reach a dismembered country tikkun which rajiv should have to be from that sentence but an overnight a backstop he won't venture in so we live peacefully b.c. the country's call to treat you could do for a time the going to stop not going to produce cheech to see me begin to use a tree because the for good. company time to go to the pub also

seem to change. things but it tends to be good to. see. so much streams the time to go to the ball to see the change. of the ball keep me in the face of the times to be good to. defeat me not so much reid's trying to distort you this way but up to the point for question did have to stand before the referendum that's what it was meant by sounds good promo that would support her for it to produce but not let's talk a little. menu to describe this kind of to be a race is. just a couple you cannot pull that uses the smoke to the she did not tell me how much my kid's new suits. show because you don't respect the u.k. full it's time to go to the pub see the change. on the culture if you don't

face the time to be going to school. to see me not to go so much. united states has always had a. tax on other countries. economic sanctions are often just the beginning another thing you like to do is play some military press or country music. and there has to be an effort to minimize that country and the leader of that country. have a responsibility. for the home. and the will to make rules for the rest of.

us without us there will be chaos. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy foundation let it be an arms race and of his on this very dramatic development only closely i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. to. us veterans who come back from war often tell the same stories. were going after the people who were killing civilians they were not interested in the wellbeing of their own soldiers either there are already several generations of them so i just got this memo from

a certain branches officer says we're going to attack and destroy the government and seven countries in five years americans pay for the wars with their money others with their lives if we were willing to go into harm's way and willing to risk being killed for a war surely we can risk some discomfort or an easy four. days before withdrawing from a landmark arms control agreement the u.s. announces there and it's going to start producing a new thermo nuclear warhead. also coming up on the program sanctions nation the venezuelan president claims donald trump sought to harm him killed the crisis hit country supreme court launches a criminal investigation into.