two thousand and eighteen nucular posture review states that low yield nukes help ensure that potential adversaries perceive no possible advantage in limited nuclear execute latest escalation making nuclear employment deployment less likely. if you believe that having many smaller nucular weapons makes the world a safer place well then i've got a bridge in brooklyn i'd like to sell you or for that matter some wonderful new jobs at a packed arena amarillo texas that may or may not make you culpable in bringing about the end of the world. i want to start watching the hawks. were pretty. good looks like real that this was. the plot of. the day like you but i got. to. be.

the man on the watch of dogs i am a robot and i'm to have a flawless you know i mean you know ma'am i'm very no nukes oh i'm a big no nukes person i've bender hiroshima and i've been there on the anniversary of the bombing and i've seen i've met survivors you can't look at me i have a survivor and look at literally burns on their arm that were caused by your government dropping a. foul disgusting piece of mechanics at the world should never see and right in the middle of their cities so but yeah but these are low yield low yield news these are ok because these are battlefield news these are the lyrics the everybody says this is like brighton chipper that we can you because we're not a prevent people from also years ago. there were owners of the modern x.

i like the idea but smaller nukes you know things that are easier for people just steal more for us to give to you know get in the hands of the wrong people yeah let's make them smaller explosion less as large as rochambeau but still war i was only a third. any idea like anybody would say about i think just go in or really do some research on what happened and that's a great point and what's interesting is you know our you know they're coming off the assembly line now they're ready to go and. they've been is the kind of world reaction to starting with our old cold war numbers sis you know russia got a whole arms race of nuclear pull with everything going down the thought we have when asked about the production of the w seventy six dash to the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov told reporters this issue has was already included in last year's review of washington's policies in the nuclear sphere as far as we can see that provision has now been translated into the language of practical action

certainly this by no means promotes security in the modern world i think he's got an excellent point. just basic logic you know more weapons more thing is that literally ruin life as you know it wherever there is is probably a pretty good coming up quick you know the u.s. is still stuck to withdraw from the intermediate range nuclear forces the i.n.f. treaty which you know read good and that is i don't really sort of were walking out on february second apparently right and that really bothers me on so many levels and it's hard for me to understand how all of these hard core reagan republicans all at one time have left that go so quickly i mean the whole thing with gorbachev and reagan that was a huge part of our childhood seeing nothing of being the cold war is over this race with russia they like pepsi and blue jeans and so do you know just learn to get along and i thought that's what we were doing i thought that's what we're moving toward but we really haven't seen that though from the last president and now with

the development these new missiles and development of like suddenly bringing nukes back and making nukes popular again make nukes great again yeah i'm good it's not just russia either you know because china has to i mean there there is a china. has to sit back and go well now what's going on because i thought we're moving away from new so one of them standing where is a senior fellow at the east west center has warned that the u.s. should avoid a policy steps that would as he put it quote provoke china into trying to compete as vigorously in the area of new numbers of nuclear weapons as china competes for united states and lots of other areas on it and this is this is what happens it's it's you know we're going to keep fighting over who has the most and it's alternately that of losing game for everyone nobody wins when we have trade wars nobody really when's when we have these things in the arms race is no yeah you're exactly right and the thing that gets lost in all of this that the lot of people don't remember is that remember the these weapons are built in you know you will

spark trees i mean more than ten percent of u.s. manufacturing demand in the u.s. is dependent on aerospace and defense spending with contracts with lockheed martin boeing and the usual gang of crazies you know industry experts highly of that approach me eight hundred thousand defense jobs intelligence doesn't other occupations are tied to the defense industry where people have to remember is that there's our citizens fingerprints are on the bombs that we drop in other countries which means that we are culpable the person who made the bomb is just as culpable culpable as the person who pulled the trigger the person who ordered the person the perpetrator we're all guilty of your we're going to stop this. in july of twenty seventeen u.s. president trump stood next to then wisconsin governor scott walker and broke wrapped in a brand new manufacturing plant that was to bring thirteen thousand jobs to the struggling state but not even golden shovels can dig a hole deep enough to hide from the news that the company behind the plant foxconn technology group has reconsidered the deal the factory was originally slated to be a ten billion dollar facility twice the size of the pentagon which would employ

around as he said thirteen thousand people and what were known as low skilled manufacturing jobs those not requiring a college degree or specialized training which is why many were confused when louis wu's special assistant to foxconn c.e.o. terry good told reuters this week that quote in wisconsin we're not building a factory. foxconn now plans to create a research and development where there with most product manufacturing and assembly happening in japan china and mexico in addition foxconn announced this week that they would not be eligible for nine and a half million dollars the state job creation tax credits since the only created one hundred and seventy eight fold time jobs and twenty eighteen not be two hundred sixty promised like so many election promises that looks like this will be making workers in wisconsin blue without a collar. it's so true that it. seems to me

foxconn cold when it's not just you know president donald trump failures and wise but it didn't come it was the best representation of politicians as a whole because they're also really good. indication you can kind of follow them out of the sort of koch brothers on the state level and what happened to that this is what happened is you had a bunch of politicians like scott walker pushing this idea if i can get these big businesses will get them in here and then this simple addition and subtraction of mass of this in that area was just too complicated for first scott walker and it's like throwing money at these companies and they just kind of like laugh it up with them don't really ever fall through i mean it's like building a stadium for an n.f.l. team you did something for your state is there and when they leave home build a stadium it might have had something people can spend money on going to. look at the initial package of two point eight billion income tax credits for job creation and capital expenditures one hundred fifty million in sales tax exempt exemptions

there was additional incentives as well right so the local area just the city and that municipality had about seven hundred sixty four million and local incentives and then another hundred thirty four million in state and local road improvements by the way huge part of wisconsin. budget to fix the roads that are ready need to be fixed was this was shrunk in order to make sure that the roads around the fog massive foxconn plant would be really well. bruce. it shows what happens when governments put corporations before people they absolutely should not get money from assume the money get better only if they promise thirteen thousand as much as it's nice to see a thousand people get a job it's not worth that kind of money is going to cripple the state of wisconsin oh we're going to they're never going to meet those those amounts to say first and you have to remember all the things they were given you know fish and wildlife are

department of natural resources the d.n.r. in wisconsin was able was giving up like entire e.p.a. guidelines they were saying yes you can go over this wetlands you can dumb things underwater in the air who cares but ultimately these are not manufacturing jobs that's what we were promised that is what the american people kept getting promised and specifically people in places like wisconsin michigan minnesota iowa that's what all these politicians want to and that's what everybody want to on was this idea of that they were going to bring this back and michigan and detroit was going to come back and that idea was this idea of bringing silicon valley in to say wisconsin you saw it with you know amazon it's give them a bunch of things so that they'll come here and give jobs you know then if they don't have those jobs that's the problem either friedman asserts or see a professor at cornell said a little bit about this so why silicon valley work when it did so can valley became

what it is to say stay at the moment that production was leaving much of it had to asia the intellectual property associated with manufacturing that takes place almost in wisconsin will be owned by foxconn or whatever brand foxconn is supplying and there is little reason for the company to relocate. and the other high skilled highly paid jobs and that is why i believe also that this whole foxconn thing is not going to even why would they build an r.v. and then have to bring people in from out of state because apparently we don't have enough skilled labor and engineering i mean that opens up a whole other side of this topic that we didn't have time to answer to which is the education of the american worker and i'm sure you don't even have time to time to. knew this was coming we both knew this was coming out i hate it when i'm right about. it as we're going to break watchers don't forget to let us know what you think of the topics we've covered of facebook twitter and you tube and see our poll shows there are two you've got coming up we have two of the debate behind the wall

over the quality of prison life whistleblower john states who are watching the whole. the millennium i think are trying to restore the rights of individuals the rights of humans in the face of this dystopian nightmare and that's probably why they claim price is being held back from crossing over twenty five thirty thousand dollars per call it is because of the rise if they see if she is successful and humans have a agency that's a net negative for big coin in the short term but i will say because there's a lot of people that don't want her seizing power in any meaningful way.

so. i think one of the main reason why i know we have worked on this comply national is this because. it's the different organization. to the blue. issue osoba still full but also fifteen. to all previous q. so. it's one of the best national lots of them as a symbol. of. the united states he's head of tools to use and it's a tax on other countries. economic sanctions are are often just the beginning another thing you like to do is place some military

pressure on the countries which are talking about. and there has to be an effort to demonize that country and the leader of that country. believe i am a responsibility for the game. and we need to make rules for the rest. because without us there will be change. the myths and legends surrounding the prison system here in the united states are many but one of the most prevailing to this day is how much better prisoners have it than their longsuffering guards or all of us on the outside we saw this

stereotype raise its head again during a recent round of stories covering the us government shutdown over the holiday season everyone from usa today to n.b.c. news of the washington post reported that while federal prison guards were working without pay prisoners were treated to a holiday banquets and feasts usa today noted that some prisoners tucked into a christmas spread of herbs dusted cornish game cornbread dressing gravy rice pilaf and assorted pies and a week later they were in the new year with grilled steak black eyed peas green beans macaroni and cheese biscuits and even more pie this led to call this lead to call them prison union chief joe rojas exclaiming to the media that this is appalling we're not getting paid in the inmates are eating steak the inmates know what's going on they know about the shutdown and they are laughing at us now many of taken the media to task for reporting these events including former cia officer john kiriakou served twenty three months in a federal prison after blowing the whistle on the u.s. torture program he joins us now to discuss some of these missed and the controversy

surrounding the treatment of prisoners and their food in the federal penitentiary system john thank you so much for coming on my pleasure so jon i got to start with you let's get this out the way tell us about the great fine piece that you had over the holidays while serving time you know how many michelin star chefs are working on a child line in federal prisons these days exactly zero you know on my very first day in prison and it was a my first full day it was a friday which is fish day and one of the other prisoners said to me oh it's friday fish day i said oh ok i like fish he said no you're not going to like this fish we call it sewer trout. and so we went down to the cafeteria and sure enough in plain view were the cases the boxes of fish that were clearly marked alaskan cod product of china feed use only not for human consumption we had that that animal grade fish every single friday for the whole two years i was

in prison and that was just typical that wasn't an anomaly or an outlier that's typical of the of the food in the prison system wow i think i think a social victory you mention of one point two that even before you women somebody got caught for feeding inmates dog food yeah there is a company in texas that provides what it calls ground beef to the federal prison system it also makes dog food and somehow there was a labeling mix up and so they sent an entire shipment of dog food to the prison the prisoners ate it the company realized its mistake and reported itself to the justice department it had to pay a fine none of which went to the prisoners but the shame of it and i said this in my bed the shame wasn't even that the prisoners were fed dog food the shame was that they didn't even realize that it was dog food because it didn't taste any different from what they ate on any other day remember much of this food is just simply not human grade food you're not supposed to be able to sell this kind of

stuff it's for animals to eat another thing too is whatever they're able to buy out there on the market at a deep deep discount they'll buy truckloads of it for example. we bought a entire eighteen wheeler worth of year old bagels they were bagels that had been dyed green for st patrick's day the year before and so every day for four months we ate green bagels. and that's again it's typical there were. dusted cornish and assorted holiday pay like i don't know what prison that guy's in i played it over had that even though i wanted i went to a private school that i'm still paying for and i never got back so i know what all of us are about that one of the things that you've mentioned in articles and something that keeps coming up when you do any research on these presidents is the

very real suspicion that when you look at the amount of that is budget to a particular president or the president system for what's for food and when you really see what's being bought and you do the math per prisoner the money is not all going to those prisoners you're absolutely right no what happens is go by the truckload of green bagels and then they'll also buy. for them in your own or once it was containers of hummus and that's the food that's eaten by the guards so the guards will put in their order the prisoners cook it for them it take it to the guards cafeteria or or dining room and the rest of us eat the slop that they buy in the eighteen wheelers so a lot of that money and remember all of it is supposed to be budgeted for prisoner food but a lot of it goes straight to the guards and you see it on some of the more local levels when you have like county persons who are townships and there's actually we've reported on here there's places where the sheriff gets to keep yes any money

extra for the as ample yeah there's a sheriff in alabama that sieved so much money on prisoner food and kept it that he was able to build an oceanfront beach house so i'm in the wrong business wow perfectly legal but. there's going to be the argument saying look these people are prisoners why should maybe they should be grueling and why are you know they're being punished for committing crimes why are we worried about what do you say about come aboard and i would answer that two ways number one show me in my sentencing report where it says that that's one of my punishments. is to eat animal greed food and secondly when you feed people this kind of garbage you're your reason your medical costs exponentially and so it actually costs the justice department more money to skimp on the food because they have to make up for it plus on medical research and by extension is across them taxpayers more but it's right at the very

best don't forget too that the bureau of prisons is the largest has the largest budget of any agency inside the department of justice larger than the f.b.i. . they're so there and yet there's still this part of amazing thing about about prisons and it's sort of the myths and stereotypes there's this idea always that you know well they get to go to college for free if they get to go do all this for free they get to watch cable they've got workout equipment that's what i heard my whole life growing up i'm glad you said that actually if i could interrupt you for one second for a workout equipment so there's a small commissary in every prison and everything is marked up thirty percent so if you can get it for a dollar at wal-mart it's a dollar thirty at the prison that thirty cents goes into a prisoners fund it's from that fund that the prisoners are able to buy exercise

equipment baseball equipment footballs. it's the all of those things are coming right out of the prisoner's pockets that's not taxpayer money but in reality if we're trying to rehabilitate someone's why would you want to make them you're going to get into that's going to make them more depressed it's going to make it harder for them to feel healthy and seal like that you're going to put someone in a position where they spend twenty three and one twenty three hours a day in their cell and one hour outside you're not going to have like what what is is making that why do these things still persist why does a persistent we know it doesn't it we're set up. it's a mess and down no it's actually up but you know there are a lot of misnomers in the in the u.s. prison system especially the federal prison system there is no such thing as getting an education in prison and there hasn't been since the one nine hundred eighty s. you can't learn a skill you can't learn something that you're going to be able to use on the outside those programs just don't exist and they haven't existed since ronald

reagan was was president so that and this notion of club fed for example that there are tennis courts and putting greens what prison were you in that you had club fed with tennis courts a lot of this story didn't have tennis and you know the one scene is that no in fact i've heard people call her prison camp cupcake because that's where the easy it's the minimum security there's no such thing is as a pleasant prison i don't care how minimum security is what what how are it so how do people go about what's the first step the people need to take in order to look this is ridiculous whether i know someone who is in jail or i just simply care about the fact that we're abusing people who probably i would say a good portion of them didn't actually hurt anybody to go into jokes a lot of their lives didn't most didn't a lot of it's like and don and i know that's right how do people go about helping the situation or solving the situation only way to change it is through our elected representatives on capitol hill. and once to my surprise there actually are people

on both sides of the of the aisle who are willing and even willing but but excited to try to reform the system we saw a passage of the first step back just a couple of months ago and that's what it was it was a good first step it had been sponsored year after year after year through the obama administration but but mitch mcconnell didn't want to bomb or to have a political victory and so he blocked a vote on this in the senate for it each year well now with with a republican formerly a republican house and a republican senate and a republican in the white house they actually passed it with democratic votes that's a great stepping stone a good starting point to enact real reform which i believe is going to actually bring costs down and recidivism down here and i think there's a lot of levels to it too of the whole prison system from guards guard pay guard training guard every have an exact about private prison oh yeah i don't like is

that there's so much on every corner of this but i think we can all agree that prison food is not a bad day and you know i really don't you get you off the air that i went for two years without ever having seen the crown of a piece of broccoli you know i often wondered when you go into the grocery store and they have blocked broccoli florets what happens to the stock prisoners reading stuff. that is being ugly for its inventor john i got to say thank you you know thank you so much for i hate the fact that you had to go through this we're going to grow things that i knew so much that the other side of this to where no you didn't a voice out there and hopefully we can see some changes and drugs are you on it. by inserting a human gene that produces proteins into with chickens d.n.a. rosslyn technologies in edinburgh was able to create chickens that lay eggs containing the costly drugs that we now it's taken pill form these slightly pampered chickens are not harm. and their pens are much more natural than the cold

sterile ones used in large scale factory farms the researchers have focused primarily on two proteins one that has massively powerful anti-viral an anti cancer effects and one that stimulates damn it's tissues to repair themselves three of the eggs would be enough for a full dose and the cost of raising the chickens is asked to made it to be between ten and one hundred times cheaper than current pharmaceutical manufacture and grown costs now don't expect to see the hundred thirty times their own breakfast treats won't be available from doctors for at least another decade or so but there is hope that they might be able to develop immunity boosting eggs for farm animals to avoid antibiotic resistant superbug. so you could see the eggs to farm animals as how to make their immune system strongest we don't command about x. so we don't take in more and biopics and become resistant oh it's so hard for me because that part of me is like it gives the g.m. genetic modification by the lesser stories like this a black hole maybe there's

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