we're focused on russia now you often. say the onus is on russia to prove that it's transparent that it's willing to cooperate with water. do you think russia is doing enough in that regard we're going to put on the requirements of what is extremely important for russia because. realizing of all requirements especially requirements on the second stage of decision executive committee of what. important because from this depends. next stages and. it's not the question of compliance before it's a question of the future generation of russian it's not future because the generation it's a question of. what possible it will be how we will in the wall of. the international

competition in the russian music show. and. negative results and negative. situation in this case. we will believe that do we involve the international competition and are something to it was the extremely important question. estimated that the step by step. last possibility to be in. now can i ask you specifically about the appeal to put in because i know that you worked and studied for a long time in learning about latest. as i am put in his hometown did you know him personally before your point when no no no. i didn't. i don't have any contact with. president putin and ministration. i tried

to be in contact. with president of the ministration but i didn't receive and. don't you find this ironic that you as a had of an independent agency in russia still have to appeal to the country's leader to make sure that your agency can function as intent. you mentioned that it's crucially important for russia. isn't it i guess an interesting characteristic of the russian system that in a new way you still have to be in a knee problem you still have to involve the president and now with concert money question the band's president. i thought before that this question had to be sold. on the the live different level but. we. lost the time and the by rio and for me it was were important

to call the president because. question what will be what could be in the next stage was real crucial critical for us now let me ask one more question about the. missing of the deadline that delayed which why they didn't use against russia even though it was pressured so you do you think it was ultimately due to i don't know if you're of negotiations. maybe j.n.u. misunderstanding or some sort of postering or evasion on the part of the russians i think it's push. for example. on the second stage i think the thirty's have to start to work negotiation. yes well which is what results will be with a summation of what death a base but than any case. we share of the times curial limited.

to. eugénie thirty year. old. professional sports community will focus on this that. i think. don't give us any possible. date during your recent press conference you said that in order to rebuild its relationship with why the russia country. just to turn the page build new facilities and move on it has to get to the bottom of any that may have taken place in the past it sounds like you believe that there are some forces in russia who. i may not be willing to pursue that path is that right. i think i don't want to comment your question because first the full responsibility for my air of

responsibility some time i think. we're working in russia is. because we didn't have any support i mean serious support yes we have support from minister of sports we're working and said the working group ok it's what a nice but we need nobody hearing. nobody racing a boat special position that professional position. to probe what may be. for example the prosecutor for president bush in the trip to school told. me all information. the different pm i have too many information do i understand you correctly mr ghana's that you

feel like your work is not being fully supported here in russia when we discuss about the real supporting for example like case which was before this one case and nobody discussed with us it may be only the minister of sport but. most of all above the common question. and. when i discuss a bow the support i told to both the efforts to solve the current doping situation but in crisis in russia yes i understand all work the responsible for the areas of responsibility but i want to tell now we need totally different level of corporation and. and then this case also of the poet enough voters have to be called by an air force

special in cooperation when we have to work this direction i assume this is a very row in the balance comment on the russian investigative committee known granting . expedient access to the most and to doping lab and from what i understand their objections were that the equipment that they wanted a specialist brought to russia wasn't fully certified in russia given that the trust is lacking on both sides both from wadded to russia and from russia to why there wasn't that justified because if that data is taken by some equipment that the russian specialists don't fully trust you understand that later on in case there is some tampering found then. the questions could be raised in this disagreement can the rise about the you know who committed that tempering

understand what i mean wasn't that the russians trying to protect themselves as well against what they perceive as perhaps biased treatment by wada crystal. to real situation is because the price of this question lies too high but on the other so we have we didn't know the. air force. cooperation. were told to the the boat did because. we. developing elwyn a suggestion that theory too but in any case we need real support. for what do you mean by real supporting real supporting. the supporting from. the sponsibility as. for example with this coworker and regionals kid went

to work with the for the duration we would all. this work and for the jewish for example. work but. with old the serious supporting and i mean it's one question. the measures. so we can cross this i mean coworker we in this again with whom we work. in this because he is formally we work only in the limit the. possibility which which yes but with the will of the sixty two. depends on. now mr going to have to take a break now but we'll be back in just a few moments.

i think are trying to restore the rights of individuals rights of humans in the face of this dystopian nightmare and that's probably why they claim prices being held back from crossing over twenty five thirty thousand dollars per coin is because of the rise of say if she is successful and he have a agency that's a net negative for big coin in the short term but i will say because there's a lot of people that don't want her seizing power in any meaningful way. united states has always had tools to use in its attacks on other

countries. economic sanctions or are often just the beginning another thing you like to do is place some military pressure on the countries a talking about. and there has to be an effort to demonize that country and the leader of that country because. we have a responsibility for the hague. and we need to make rules for the rest. because without us there would be chaos.

welcome back to worlds apart from assad and director general irregardless mr gunness why they made it clear that despite earning and keeping its compliance they just russia and the assad are still no doubt of the woods yet and if any tempering is discovered in the post tampering is confident in the in the database probes russian athletes could lose a chance of representing themselves in the country at the two thousand and twenty olympic and paralympic games in your own estimation how high is that. of tampering being discovered i believe on the positive. results so for this. fall the database. i think we have this week but please understand

me we didn't show any attention to this commission which work. we did in the walls of. this. work and i don't know exactly what condition of the base was in that but. i hope this. will. progress over the t.v. because. the real. what current situation with. the water situation. with. probes for were rushed to that's. for a war that we will investigate they provide the process and the police will

be enough to prove to finalize what this is. or this is the base is so i think this case will go positive you seem to invest a lot of confidence in. the due process by wada and that's despite i think it's pretty evident that there is also very strong anti russian lobbying within that organisation particularly from the british and from the american antidoping agencies. why do you think why that these juncture at least didn't succumb to that pressure why did they allow your organisation to keep its compliance it's. a sin first of all. this why the. for why the this experience with. her on the thrust stage because on to the spirit of the rules i think the one of the main reasons why i

know we're working as compliant or going as a sham to the national organization because of all saw the two days is that the different organization compared to the previous issue. which was still two thousand and fifteen. to all previous history because. we're working on it call them. it's one of the best national it's of the edge and see in the world i heard you say that one of the agencies that help you rebuilt from scratch was you cat the british and to doping agency you were very grateful to them during your press conference and yet they continue had you taking against your agency. any possible turn winds that yes with were close to their way with the british want to see the broad for us a real will you. because it was the. one of the main national of the in the

engines which supported us doing the compliance probably why they don't support here at any turn when one it comes to voting question not only do you cause it's question not question all that to yourself. i want to tell you all the working with the corporate rate with you saw the investigation based in the kitty now and they believe. it's a queer he told against you why did they not against us against russia against the russian to open system call on. they believe. in the current condition they don't believe the russian into the open system i just wanted to add to that that this presumption of russia being guilty in the eleven malevolent is very present in the in the west and it permeates into every area of operation not just sports can you really overcome with regard less of how transparent and forthcoming

you are when they believe that russia is in the wrong is so strong it's is it on the stand why are they saying that if she is same appear. to us and first before we think we made what we did for. three years. russian authorities didn't do anything during the last three years and when the minister of sports comes from yes ok we'll go on lies access to the op and the we are received we will hear sure level of the criticize because they didn't believe us and when we lost the. date of the first stage. the you remember i get through this my call occur from you say it told i told you we would believe russia.

we come from his words because we. not sold all this first stage in the real to. now investigating the russian case is what changed its legal fund and started treating russians. as guilty until proven innocent rather than the other way around and it also meted out the collective punishment based on that premise do you think that it was fair and justified. i think i. guess the collective punishment and why they were all such as far as the water decision when the water comes from a compliance because it's impossible. all over clean up let's will be the limit to the possibilities of the buses but to sit by the national competition

. will be. misunderstandable situation where we'll. lose the compliance and that tradition when the real world of competitive the world professional want to see. it come from it. i think first of all wish to have to think of both the. what we have to do it would to have to do to rebuild trust capital we sure. some years ago you've been very critical throughout this interview of the russian side and perhaps justifiably so but don't you think that's why that also has to learn some lessons and change something in its work for example many would claim that they'd process the mclaren report very very uncritically and i think some of

the rulings by the court of arbitration for sports also prove that in fact specifically the the court's rulings say that. report was insufficient to establish that any anti doping rule violation was committed so don't you think that's why doubt also has to perhaps change its ways a little bed i think. while they're working. they purpose lyon and they. estimated step by step and saw they were for. real understanding the real. working. during the investigation process with thrill so for mascolo. when we discuss a ball the. lot of the balls. told to bode before. i think to miss a michael out of respect person. i think. that

to organize the road map is special to. all. question the requirements for mr muckle i wish him luck in the muck lot of the board it's not the question of their compliance because it's a question clause but i know that all international sports for that ration they is some way to sort of bolt the. lists which fixed this reports and they work with this mr going to is that the report is based almost exclusively on the testimony of. of the the former head of the most lab a person who is directly implicated in all those crimes a person who is guilty of not just ethical transgressions he's criminally guilty this is a crime to do what he did and he never faced any responsibility for what he did

he's where whereabouts are unknown why they didn't bring any charges against him don't you think that's why that as an organization that is committed to fighting doping violations has a moral responsibility to bring that man to account. i think in any case it's not depends. on what. materials. base this reports how they did but but in any case i mean in any case when there's somebody you go store. with. the some serious question yes. they are going for four so the special will actual cases. and then this case and all dyckman which marked in this report we in any case would have to estimate that it will go to market for us to once

an old time i've totally agree with you without my question to you is whether wada if because mr rauch was working on behalf of wada so what the shares responsibility here why don't you think why has to put more pressure on them merican intelligence agencies who are now controlling. their abode and bring him to justice according to american law because in the united states it is also a crime to do what he did why does he go away and face no responsibility whatsoever for doing what he did. i don't know exactly what i can tell you because i didn't saw this materials before and as a lawyer can tell. first of all we have to understand what the real through yes this case would have to understand. we're. call how we have all this

case is why we have to be responsible for it it is a possible to be responsible for one case and in this case first of all this were important for us because. i don't like speculation but wishes that evacuation he gave testimony if he had made it to his guild i mean there is no question about him playing a role in that and substituting the samples and so on that is all on tape that's the substance of allegations against russia but he never better than personal responsibility is that's right but yes but i want to. tell you only above the responsibility i don't want discuss about mr walsham go responsibility because it's not my question and i don't want to be in accuser all. i only think. i mean the russian reputation. their own money question both of them

reports but in any case it's the way well we cool the weather with the tele bolted ok it's not to answer some for ok let me rephrase it and that's going to get a final question if russia is fully transparent and forthcoming in satisfying all the why the requirements i am going down as a had their facade that once russia has done its part i are going to require. something about bringing that man to account ok it's yes i think it's all the possible will understand what it was that or all each person who was in walden this process. it is possible although. all with close summation of this or old man i proposed before. my proposal was told and i was a working girl in the wish the wall the all that always spares and then the

national expose. on the other side that in this case step by step would have to estimate the current situation from one case to all that and on the whole and forewards have to be responsible for the state of these materials have to be prepared to go to court. mr guess we have to move in there i really appreciate your spending so much ten minutes and can thank you encourage our years to keep this conversation going in our social media pages and hope to see again same place same time here and while the party. are.

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