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it will take to ensure that this house can support a deal that is a change the start that is what i will be taking back to the european union that is what we will be doing to ensure that we can avoid no deal he stands up regularly and says he doesn't want no deal i'm working to ensure we get a deal even suppose every move by this. is the one who are risking you know you can make your way. would you great for the prime minister would actually acknowledge that the house has voted to take no deal off the table. and can she assured the house that if she is unable to secure any legal changes to the backstop that she would work to find a solution based on a comprehensive customs union a strong single market deal and the guaranteeing of rights and protections rozza then go back to the alternative that she's been threatening everybody was for months and months which was to crash out without any deal whatsoever and so finally
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we have a position from the house of commons but it is neither the position previously adopted by the prime minister and there's no if they know that it is a position which will be accepted by the european union so it may be about to write the whole merry go round to yet again in two weeks' time well the twenty fifth hour hold under this strain out folks if someone likely to know the answer i know delighted to be joined by peter oborne the political columnist of the daily mail and of the middle east i peter welcome to the excitement show thank you very much alex. people one of the true real number of commentators has been pretty favorable to resubmit approach to the european negotiations are you still on board are you starting to have your doubts that comes a point in a race and sometimes you the jockey wants to get off the horse and the moment when this is may's deal which i suppose. strongly i felt it was the best deal and the
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only deal was defeated by a small matter of two hundred twenty votes in the house of commons. we were it was the moment when you go ask has mrs may got a future and she's looking increasingly desperate now as she finds tries to find ways which would keep some version of her deal alive in other words we're now in a situation which is completely and utterly precedented this is a. desperate measures in desperate times and many ways measures which look completely impossible in the idea behind tuesday's brady amendment was there is that you know we go see it with europe well you know mrs mate signed off a deal with europe in december and now the reopening against the nations at this stage is desperation and also humiliating it's humiliating for her because she's
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had to change her mind about something yet again it's also humiliating for britain which comes cap in hand to europe so i acquired easy about this week well it was quite a strong performance last tuesday at the sports book but there's no doubt the prime minister was uneasy with a number of m.p.'s made the point why should we support you should deal with you no longer support and i think exactly right. and i think that the she has a central dilemma she can either go with the conservative solution conservative party solution try a solution which keeps the conservative party together or widen. and what mrs may appears to be doing the behind the entire strategy this week is the idea that mrs may is trying to keep the conservative party together the conservative party is split wide open over europe more than ever before more than a maastricht their effect of late two conservative parties with two separate whipping operations of those the european european reform group which has its own
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leader and leadership and whips and then you have the official conservative party and then you also of course have the remaining when the provisionals the provisional wing if you like although they're all vogl rather grand provisionals and mrs may is concentrating on finding a formula which will keep the conservative party together even though it doesn't look at all likely that this formula which involves getting fresh concessions from europe has any kind of bearing on what brussels can or will deliver and look to those the inner workings of the console to marty better than you do commentator certainly is this a big mistook me it's been an influence as was suggested last weekend as is hazard for saying look you've got to keep the party together or course up to this week mr philip has been us like a mysterious figure seems very un political you know the city jan two who was very
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supportive of the prime minister but but kept his head down you know and he and suddenly this week he's entered the political frame for the first time as an activist somebody position pushing forward a position that position is the position the tory party position the is he a lifelong tory activist it needs to be said like his wife the prime minister is pushing forward a scheme which keeps on board the european research group keeps on board the far right of the party. and he's against a wider engagement towards the rest of the house of commons so you're saying base of the prime minister's choice is almost an impossible one and you can either keep the party together reach a deal that can't be a deal because you don't would agree to it alternatively you can risk for actually the conservative party for the deal that europe would agree to by reaching out across the floor of the house to exactly the position i'm trying to explain exactly
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and so this is a major gamble it's her last attempt this week to to stop the conservative party from splitting in a way that didn't quite do over the corn laws in the in eight hundred forty six didn't quite do a tariff reform at the start of the twentieth century she knows she they were right do a mass trick in the night and then nearly happened over maastricht and didn't and she knows that she may be the prime minister who under the abbotts opens up and that becomes the two parties or two conservative parties all conservative party actually dies this is a possibility so close to the guarded and what some in the conservative party might call continental europe but what it is the rest of europe and looking at this what do we make of it really understand the know what's going on are they just exasperated or would be really late so in claim to wards of the range i don't i
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think you really should ask mr barney a and the european to go see mr young i think they are sensible people but mr by only for example the french cost brought up in a pretty hard political school commission says if only they would tell us what they want it's the nearest i've ever seen to that particular political inclination come to almost compassion. but please go to the state is actually feeling a bit sorry for the british to go shit i think he's in ash moment of nash is becoming a moment of nash. no embarrassments the failure to grab a key here and position i said that's why i supported mrs may's deal i mean she struck a deal with europe she went back to her party which refused to back it and now what we're seeing is a very. desperate last minute attempt to to reach some form
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of some of the some way of resolving it within the conservative party the underlying threat is and it we are very very close to reaching that moment is mrs may losing control not just of the house of commons but of the conservative party to put a long standing political commentator i was watching as probably you were the health of the b.b.c. that was the weekend where he was saying that he was asked about martial law preparations did not say don't be absolved don't be ridiculous the deck of us had laid in the newspaper you actually said it's not. the lane of concentration you know we're not concentrating on that we did die but it was part of the planning contingency did you ever think would be the situation where a couple minister wasn't dismissing out of hand any sort of preparation regardless how low in the priorities for martial law you're quite right in this is we lead we
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are living in an age of wonders and exactly right i mean i think that they're torn because they want to frighten tory m b's into line with this kind of talk at the same time as without creating panic it's a it's a very complex and dangerous situation but can you civil to mislead fate and not intimidate two different sets of parliamentarians one set of parliamentarians with the prospect of no deal and another set of parliamentarians with the prospect of staying in europe can you pull that off of freight do different groups of people some ulterior sleep with different weights i think i. the other third threat they want to see is waving in front of her turia pieces the collapse and the end that of the service of parties are all kinds of threats being made and i think that you can see last week that they sort of works you know they have brought an awful lot of hard liners into into behind behind the behind the official story line but it's
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it's very difficult now for the believe it was coming next and sure for print up the three possible threats which of these three threats the fragmentation of the tory party the prospect of no deal with all the attendant difficulties or the prospect of staying in europe in some form which of these three threats is the one most likely to be realized i think that the. most likely outcome of all of this is that britain will remain at least part of the customs union and the some form of deal will be struck with europe and i don't i think say this because there is only really one majority in the house of commons at the moment and that is against a no deal exit and so that is where we will probably end up that consequences or for the cohesion of the conservative party or no deal x. it is what a significant number of the tory m.p.'s want and so mrs may is forced into
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talking towards a much softer brain which is the place to go from here it's likely to lead to the collapse to the fragmentation of the conservative party so if the most likely outcome is tacking towards the natural commons majority it's in a sense is that not muddling through and that often what happens are not a very british trace are still those are muddling through at the end of the day and in a few years time people look back on what an apple is all the talk of of a huge cataclysm is probably it's a nice point that i hope you're right it's actually good sense prevails that all these dire warnings of bombing games and tend to not to cap will look let's hope so but at the moment there isn't feels it feels really quite. national history
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there obama thank you and let's leave thank you very much. join us after the break where we brought in a debate to look at how the parliamentary dramas are causing strains across the political parties with the. u.s. veterans who come back from war often tell the same stories. were going after the people who were killing civilians they were not interested in the wellbeing of their own soldiers either they're already several generations of them so i just got this memo from the circulated branches off that says we're going to attack and destroy the government and seven countries in five years americans pay for the wars with them money others with their lives if we were willing to go into harm's way and willing to risk being killed for a war and surely we can risk some discomfort or uneasiness
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for. washington's forced regime change strategy targeting venezuela continues unabated everything is going to plan first sanction the country in ways they punish the poor second back a so-called interim president in caracas third deny the legitimate government of its export revenues is the use of force next. i've been saying the numbers mean something the matter the u.s. is over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten white collar crimes have been good. eighty five percent of global wealth if you want to be old for rich eight point six percent market saw thirty percent rise last year some with four hundred to five hundred three per second per second and bitcoin rose to twenty. thousand dollar. china's building two point one billion dollar
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a our industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only numbers you need remember it was one of those you know four to miss the one and only. welcome back all of this years around brics it are forcing new alliances among and between the political parties most surprising of all perhaps was this week's most compromise between the warring wings of the tory party here are some examples of the spectrum of use among across political parties what she's asking the house to do again today is to suddenly adopt up a may show that the government has signed up to at the last moment and just say
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that that should be the route that we should take shortly that illustrates the precise problem that this house has had throughout the purpose of my bed which i make it clear to is to give the space to this house to find where the majority live can i reassure my right honorable friend that the purpose of the amendment and the veil is not to fix any particular time for any extension or even to decide now what's an extension of article fifty should be it is actually simply to give the house the ability to do so at the end of february and i agree that nobody wants to see any unnecessary yeah so how are the biggest parties taking the bricks stree alex aslam but your pick to mark karr cart and then to examine the how parliamentary events particularly what breaks closing tensions within the political parties are talking to what ten m.p. . commentator lead but opec welcome back to the alex of unsure great to be back so
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let's start with the the big news of the week yet again another blacks at the pit another of the new mom is the conservative party going to hold together through betsy they've split on europe before we had one nation tories a long time ago and this has always been an achilles heel for the conservatives there's a very good chance there will be a split they held it together in order to prevent general election they voted against the most of no confidence so they do know how to protect their own interests but just look at the rifts you see these amendments coming from their own ranks the thing thrashing about like an uncontrollable i don't know how those pipes or something you know and we just don't know who's going to get wet next in this this spray of politics so is the result of this week it is it going to more like the tory party together or is the only thing they can agree on self-preservation a new election it is actually quite impressive that they're holding it together as
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a party somehow and the fact that theory's amaze still the prime minister when she was described as a dead woman walking by the former chancellor george osborne and that was before she got beat them opposed to votes armed before she survives somehow survived to no confidence motions won in parliament where the conservatives were definitely in self-preservation mode but also one of their own party she only defeated her opponents there by two to one c still in position so she's hanging on the tory party although riven by a dispute is still there as some sort of parliamentary force not really go he said that labor party because we're so interesting in sate this week that labor's problems and tensions are not just to do a bracks on the immigration bill slowing very curious up there's a problem of two narratives in the conservative party but the labor party looks like they have got a narrative a top. they moved away from from telling the story to trying to work out how
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a story should be told one cheek and the process light that you can lose the message and i would say a lot of members of the public simply don't know what the labor party is up to them as the labor party has lost it's not at all i think they have lost their narrative at the moment while jeremy corbyn himself is fairly consistent once again there are some contradictions there whether he's actually a secret breck satirical or remain or the difficulty is they're not projecting a clear single message you got two messages from the conservative party you can kind of understand those but it's almost impossible to understand what labor would be doing if they were in charge. today the of for the leader of the opposition basically to keep his head out and not to be too specific doesn't that the tried and tested form the last thing you want to do as an opposition is to pretend you're the government what you're trying to get is an election and let people fail know your policy is that if politics is chess then it's good to keep your next moves
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a secret but he's not helped by the fact that his own front bench is shouting what those next moves should be without necessarily having an end game they're not looking for checkmate they're just playing the pieces on the board and guessing what's going to be successful for them and the reason it doesn't work is because it just makes the labor party seem very uncertain in terms of what they would do jerry corbin can answer that question but then he shouted down by his own side that doesn't look good and frankly with all of these problems in the conservative party the labor party should be ten percentage points ahead and they're not but then the balance parliament let's call it that that was a favorite term the liberals once time but the balance parliament the liberal herself to parties that only first and second among equals over the party is a minority so how do we should all party doing the liberal democrats of the holding together for this this but except for i don't know the party the expect the liberal democrats to be. reaping up the forty eight percent of the electorate who voted to
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remain they pretty much ran their general election campaign a couple of years ago the one that reason may went in to win and lost the lib dems actually also lost they went down a percentage point when you would think they could have hoovered up all of those disaffected remain as a lost sale of a parliamentary revival of the liberal forces so there is absolutely no sign of it they've crept up just into double figures in the opinion polls but look at the confusion there stephen lloyd a former chief whip of the liberal democrats resigned that webb resigned to himself because he couldn't hold the line are still great the limited to what the party leaders and we'll find out in this biography but i suppose he had to do something like that so he is not sitting as an independent his resignation meant that the liberal democrats went down by eight percent by that single and i was able to break that wasn't as it was probably well he i think he's been quite pragmatic
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because he thinks he has to do that to hold his seat it's not easy to do as the dam the party's lost its critical mass in many ways and they hardly figure in the report tars now so i think he's made that decision on very practical and pragmatic grounds but it just shows even in the dems you've got these problems and if you go back to what vince cable who's generally pretty capable heavyweight has said about the european union and stuff he's contradicted the position that the lib dems are putting forward to put forward now that they're just not presenting a credible alternative and it wasn't voted for in the general election not so long ago thoughtlessly north-west get the third force of the house of commons that the scottish national party of the holding together on this european issue it's a lot easier to be a commentator and criticize everyone i'm going to continue in that vein because once again the s. and p. who had a phenomenal result a few years ago and then you know more than most. lost some of their position
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they're still holding the fort pretty effectively some feel that they've allowed themselves to be drawn into this massive current this this huge raging torrent of brac set and they might be taking their eye off the ball a little bit in terms of the wider agenda now i and when the germans are being in attendance and proving that independence might be for the best there's there's a gamble to be played and i respect this is a judgment call not a principle called because their narrative is quite clear everybody knows they support independence and you could say if this whole bracks thing goes south if we end up with a no deal yes tempi could then say we that our best to prevent this now there's only one thing left to do another referendum on independence and they could win it so i can see what they're trying to do not everybody in the s.m.p. privately is completely comfortable with it but it's a respectable game plan at least they have a game plan and it's rather clearer than the game plan for the conservatives labor or the lib dems have at the the other parties or with the democratic unionist of it
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who haven't more publicity in the breaks that vote the just over every relatively small part of to party in history if they play well so lesson on how to do coalition right how to wag the dog he needs to watch the deal you pay they are brilliant house as is the tail wagging the conservative dog unquestionably because that conserve a dog is chasing its tail and they're chasing the d.p. because they only survived their confidence motion in the house of commons because they they bought off the d.p. the democratic union is brilliant at getting money and funding for northern ireland they are fantastic islet because they've learnt to do this across twenty or thirty years and in that sense they've converted the bracks it chaos into something of a bonanza for northern ireland if there's one winning party in the commons at the moment it's the d.p. . and it's almost impossible to see how they can lose because if they need another
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boost they'll this from and everyone at the backstop is no backstop at all so other constitutional lessons and this fund agel was described of as we've described in scotland it doesn't tell us something about a disconnect in parliament people with proportional representation what of your great campaigns of the past what would that be some sort of solution is something really to change about the nature of parliament in order for be able to digest this challenge of votes there's a temptation to assume as we often do in politics that we have to change the rules to get a better outcome i don't buy into this time we have to change the thinking there are so many in the so many different parties who have just lost their relationship with the general public who want it simple who want to understand where we're going and want to get it done that the party which comes along and does those three things can excel and once again let me remind you that's what ukip did you can do right them but they won their core objective which was bracks it and they did it by
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keeping it simple we can argue about how accurate their phrases were but their narrative that phrase again was exactly what was required at the time to win the referendum and others have done that too but i wouldn't recommend we change the constitution we just need to change the way things are presented and no one's doing a very good job of that across or at the moment of failure brought but the million little question what is that even given us where there are we heading for where having for breakfast it because bracks it means bracks it and when someone actually defines it we might just get there we'll find that gold at the end of the rainbow but we might need a rainbow coalition to arrive at the moment we haven't got it over a very good sort of pleasure. and so it to be so may has claimed her best political week of this parliament trouble is that the deal she has gained a sense for is not a deal that seems to be available it is rather reneging from the agreement she how
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my vote over an eighteen month period with the european union the crucial backstop is being confined to a footnote of history to be replaced by some unspecified broad brush of town to arrangements problem as the european negotiators have a habit of sticking to the fine print and i'm not interested in a broad brush after all the fine print was there for a reason and that reason was to garden tea and open ball denial and an all suck up stances whatever happens in the trade discussions to come it was as european parliament sports best and give a horse that remained in the sis week and then shouldn't sposi which to be effective has to be satin it is a very open question whether the majority of nearly sixty didn't for the twenty two committee amendment from tory groan the game brady can survive the outcome of another round of negotiations where one sate quite understandably does not really want to reopen what has already been painstakingly agreed it does not all go to
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well most likely the having survived aids of january the prime minister will soon face the ides of february and then finally the ides of march and breaks it day itself and so for the thais and myself and all of the show it's goodbye for now. mean i mean i did you know where you know you're. going to. those whom you're most of the best will be in your years and years it was not a. good month but really you know. please don't leave the ways but i did my
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best religion as though i did. not. use any of this is you know. this one of those. little. tributes what you mean you know so i know you know everyone knows. what politicians do something. they put themselves on the line and they get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president. or something i want to be rich. but you'd like to be prosperous like them before three in the morning can't be good. i'm interested always in the waters in the hollow. there should be more. as it is is
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